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Dairy Chitchat 3

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    #9362
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Just did a walk this morning, growth back again to 64, just matching demand. I have a strong paddock, up at 2200 and starting to head out that I was hoping to take out this week but I'll be left with a massive hole in the wedge if I don't graze it.

    Rain needed here again, the heavier paddocks motoring at over 90 and the drier ones in the 40s.

    More of the NZ lingo us catching on every year
    with the dairy disciples, MTs, milking platform, now "hole in the wedge", it's better than a wedge in the hole I suppose.


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    #9363
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Finished the first cut today, got 140 acres in the pit since Tuesday. Do it ourselves, with help from family and some great neighbours.
    Very high yields this year, kept 7 acres back that IL cut and feed out to cows daily over the next week to supplement the grazing platform. Have been cutting some and feeding it out the last week and really helping covers.

    All wynds?


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    #9364
    greenfield21
    Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    More of the NZ lingo us catching on every year
    with the dairy disciples, MTs, milking platform, now "hole in the wedge", it's better than a wedge in the hole I suppose.

    No need to troll us. We know It's the gospel according to teagasc, For your sins go of and read the teagasc Bible twice. Amen.


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    #9365
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    greenfield21 wrote: »
    No need to troll us. We know It's the gospel according to teagasc, For your sins go of and read the teagasc Bible twice. Amen.

    My local advisor has taken the place of the priest every weekend sends us something "interesting" every Saturday night without fail, Jesus wept.


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    #9366
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,136 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    visatorro wrote: »
    Dead crow in a drinker yesterday morning. Fished it out with a pigtail. Another dead crow in same drinker this morning. Dirty bastards

    I read that as dead cow. I was thinking he must have massive drinkers :eek:


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    #9367
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Finished the first cut today, got 140 acres in the pit since Tuesday. Do it ourselves, with help from family and some great neighbours.
    Very high yields this year, kept 7 acres back that IL cut and feed out to cows daily over the next week to supplement the grazing platform. Have been cutting some and feeding it out the last week and really helping covers.

    Maybe this question should be in the machinery thread but what kit have you got?


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    #9368
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,136 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    My augers didn't work this morning. I checked everything, no blockages etc. Milking machine man came and it was the overload switch had tripped. Didn't fancy filling them by hand .


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    #9369
    The Rabbi
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭The Rabbi


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Finished the first cut today, got 140 acres in the pit since Tuesday. Do it ourselves, with help from family and some great neighbours.
    Very high yields this year, kept 7 acres back that IL cut and feed out to cows daily over the next week to supplement the grazing platform. Have been cutting some and feeding it out the last week and really helping covers.

    Are you using zero grazer or mowing and picking up?


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    #9370
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Castlekeeper wrote: »
    More of the NZ lingo us catching on every year
    with the dairy disciples, MTs, milking platform, now "hole in the wedge", it's better than a wedge in the hole I suppose.

    The grazing platform is one silly phrase, a platform is a raised wooden structure how the kiwi’s figured an area of grass is a platform still baffles me and the clowns here using the term now.


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    #9371
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    The grazing platform is one silly phrase, a platform is a raised wooden structure how the kiwi’s figured an area of grass is a platform still baffles me and the clowns here using the term now.

    For some reason I like the ring of it


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    #9372
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Gas the way some people hate absolutely anything nz.i can imagine years from now the real civil war between the grass/solids gang and the litres/ration gang will be discussed and various atrocities on the internet forums comitted by both sides will be debated and glorified. As the young crowd say what ever


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    #9373
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,566 ✭✭✭straight


    K.G. wrote: »
    Gas the way some people hate absolutely anything nz.i can imagine years from now the real civil war between the grass/solids gang and the litres/ration gang will be discussed and various atrocities on the internet forums comitted by both sides will be debated and glorified. As the young crowd say what ever

    I'm not sure if I'm in the solids or litres gang but I got 1000 litres per cow for may. Fair going I think myself. You need the litres to carry the solids. If only the price was a bit higher.


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    #9374
    dar31
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    straight wrote: »
    I'm not sure if I'm in the solids or litres gang but I got 1000 litres per cow for may. Fair going I think myself. You need the litres to carry the solids. If only the price was a bit higher.
    How many kg/ms per cow for the month


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    #9375
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,566 ✭✭✭straight


    dar31 wrote: »
    How many kg/ms per cow for the month

    I don't actually know lad but they held around the 2.1 kgms throughout. No point quoting percentages or litres alone cos it's only half the story I know. They're going well for me this year so far


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    #9376
    mahoney_j
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    K.G. wrote: »
    Gas the way some people hate absolutely anything nz.i can imagine years from now the real civil war between the grass/solids gang and the litres/ration gang will be discussed and various atrocities on the internet forums comitted by both sides will be debated and glorified. As the young crowd say what ever

    I just hate the way it’s New Zealand or the highway .totally blinkered viewing by the likes of certain reporters/advisors in the journal and tegasc in a way there just put on a pedestal from what I can see a lot of us here doing things to a far higher /better standard


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    #9377
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    straight wrote: »
    I'm not sure if I'm in the solids or litres gang but I got 1000 litres per cow for may. Fair going I think myself. You need the litres to carry the solids. If only the price was a bit higher.

    That's good going I'd say as well, did about 790 here sold per cow. Prob avg 50 calves or so on milk for the month as well. 63% first and second calvers, 4kg meal waiting on last result but bf 3.75 and P 3.49. Had a slightly higher percentage of first and second last year but actually peaked a litre or 2 higher last year, but more cow's this year


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    #9378
    Gawddawggonnit
    Registered Users Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    I just hate the way it’s New Zealand or the highway .totally blinkered viewing by the likes of certain reporters/advisors in the journal and tegasc in a way there just put on a pedestal from what I can see a lot of us here doing things to a far higher /better standard

    I always quote grain yields in tons/ha when talking to Irish farmers, quintal/ha when talking to French farmers, cwt/acre when talking to the Brits etc.
    But when talking to Irish dairy farmers about milk yields, I find that I’ve constantly to be up to date with the latest NZ lingo...

    I’d look the right pap talking in quintaux/ha to Irish tillage farmers?


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    #9379
    whelan2
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    Are lads still spreading fertiliser?


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    #9380
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Are lads still spreading fertiliser?

    Yeah, 19 units of protected urea+S. Had growth of 75 here the last week tho. With heavy ground ye should be flying it Whelan?


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    #9381
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    I just hate the way it’s New Zealand or the highway .totally blinkered viewing by the likes of certain reporters/advisors in the journal and tegasc in a way there just put on a pedestal from what I can see a lot of us here doing things to a far higher /better standard

    If significant rain dosent come shortly, and we get another 2018 event it wont be actually viable to be breeding grass rat cows longterm and trying to operate spring calving herds breed for 95% grass based diets when your main growing months arent growing 70 plus kgs dm/ha consitently that coincides with peak milk yield....
    Putting in 6kgs plus of meal into animals that are genitically not bred to respond to it will send lads broke fairly quickly, the kicker for a nice % of glanbia suppliers is they havent even payed of 2018's drought bill yet


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    #9382
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    If significant rain dosent come shortly, and we get another 2018 event it wont be actually viable to be breeding grass rat cows longterm and trying to operate spring calving herds breed for 95% grass based diets when your main growing months arent growing 70 plus kgs dm/ha consitently that coincides with peak milk yield....
    Putting in 6kgs plus of meal into animals that are genitically not bred to respond to it will send lads broke fairly quickly, the kicker for a nice % of glanbia suppliers is they havent even payed of 2018's drought bill yet

    I think your abit harsh there on the rats and their owners, I think people would like to believe that milking rat cows are heavily indebted and actually losing money:confused:


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    #9383
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    By the way I'm happy with my rat cows :D


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    #9384
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Are lads still spreading fertiliser?

    A friend on drought y ground has stopped spreading, I'm spreading compounds on fields with a bit of cover, its changing abit later in the week


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    #9385
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    If significant rain dosent come shortly, and we get another 2018 event it wont be actually viable to be breeding grass rat cows longterm and trying to operate spring calving herds breed for 95% grass based diets when your main growing months arent growing 70 plus kgs dm/ha consitently that coincides with peak milk yield....
    Putting in 6kgs plus of meal into animals that are genitically not bred to respond to it will send lads broke fairly quickly, the kicker for a nice % of glanbia suppliers is they havent even payed of 2018's drought bill yet

    What do you class as a grass rat herd?
    Still at 2.25kgs here and we dont pick bulls for milk yield

    Yes, anyone that put money into the interest free fund wouldn't have.
    You'd would have been mad not to avail of it


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    #9386
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users Posts: 6,885 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Some guys salivate on the idea of lads with big merchant debt and lads going bust. I see it with a few lads I know asking the milkman how much a lad sent in, obsessed with everyone else


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    #9387
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Some guys salivate on the idea of lads with big merchant debt and lads going bust. I see it with a few lads I know asking the milkman how much a lad sent in, obsessed with everyone else

    I honestly (and respectfully)couldn’t give a crap what a neighbour /freind etc is doing or not doing .every farm /situation different .i see lots of lads up in arms trying to do what lads in the journal etc are at or trying to compare costs via profit monitors .can never get that ,is it vanity maby maby not .the reality or actual truth of a lot of these is questionable anyway .i like going to farm walks or events of interest the financial figures mean nothing to me I’m interested in how he/she manages grass /ground stock /feeding and what is been got from stock via coop reports


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    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    What do you class as a grass rat herd?
    Still at 2.25kgs here and we dont pick bulls for milk yield

    Yes, anyone that put money into the interest free fund wouldn't have.
    You'd would have been mad not to avail

    Sub 450kgs ms delivered herds breeding cows struggling to hit 530kgs mature weight and a nice % of bull calves been bobbied yearly by one method our another, re the intrest-free money it was a can kicking down the road excercise that will sting lads badly this year with a potential drought situation and poor milk price.
    economically once nitrates deroagtion is scrapped and stocking rates have to be lowered, lads with sizeable term loans are still going to have to be sending in x amount of milk solids to meet repayments so the wheel will turn full circle and 8000 litre, 600kgs plus milk solids delivered cows will be needed, but with how the ebi system has been influenced so heavily by fertility/fat/pr % while totally disregarding volume,type,health etc it would take alot of Irish herds the guts of a decade to breed a suitable cow from the base cow we have today on a large % of Irish dairy farms....


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    #9389
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,136 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Milk recorder was here this evening for the first time since February. She asked me did I want her to wear a mask before she started. I said no


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    #9390
    alps
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Milk recorder was here this evening for the first time since February. She asked me did I want her to wear a mask before she started. I said no

    She should not have asked that question. She is to work under the strict protocol of waterproofs, gloves and mask. It is not her choice and she should have put you in an awkward position.

    The protocols are there for everyone's protection and also for the continuance of the service. It's a serious breach by an employee.


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    #9391
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Milk recorder was here this evening for the first time since February. She asked me did I want her to wear a mask before she started. I said no

    Was she wearing anything else?
    phnar phnar phnuc phnuc ...
    I know, i know , getting coat again...


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