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Second hand tractors are gone expensive

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    #722
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭straight


    Best of luck with it. Should be a fairly simple basic tractor I would think. I like the side windows in them masseys.


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    #723
    AntrimGlens
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    straight wrote: »
    Best of luck with it. Should be a fairly simple basic tractor I would think. I like the side windows in them masseys.

    Try explaining to my father how dyna shift works. :D:D


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    #724
    jntsnk
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Well wear lad

    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor


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    #725
    Jb1989
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    jntsnk wrote: »
    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor

    It looks to be well tight to the windscreen, maybe looks a bit high alright, or else is just a very strong, beefy loader


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    #726
    AntrimGlens
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    jntsnk wrote: »
    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor
    Jb1989 wrote: »
    It looks to be well tight to the windscreen, maybe looks a bit high alright, or else is just a very strong, beefy loader

    Haven't lifted anything with it yet, supposedly the same loader as the Quicke 45 I think or maybe the Q35. Have a rear weight for her.

    There's a good bit of clearance between the window and loader, possibly just the angle the pic was taken. It does appear to be a beefier loader than the Quicke the neighbour has on his 5060. Time will tell.


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    #727
    Donald Trump
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    Haven't lifted anything with it yet, supposedly the same loader as the Quicke 45 I think or maybe the Q35. Have a rear weight for her.

    There's a good bit of clearance between the window and loader, possibly just the angle the pic was taken. It does appear to be a beefier loader than the Quicke the neighbour has on his 5060. Time will tell.




    There is likely actually a Quicke plate on that as well if you look for it. That will have the model on it


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    #728
    Reggie.
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    Donald Trump wrote: »
    There is likely actually a Quicke plate on that as well if you look for it. That will have the model on it

    Its a Q45


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    #729
    funkey_monkey
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    Asked a local dealer to keep an eye out for me and told him roughly what I was looking for, he had this within a fortnight.
    554035.jpg

    Wear well. Was that McElderry who got it for you - aren't they the big MF dealer in Antrim?


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    #730
    twin_beacon
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    lovely Massey, looks like its a good spec too with the extra work lights.


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    #731
    amacca
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Its a Q45

    correct and right....they are a bit too big for the tractor if thats a 5455 imo ...but having said that who doesnt like somethig thats overengineered.


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    #732
    AntrimGlens
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Wear well. Was that McElderry who got it for you - aren't they the big MF dealer in Antrim?

    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.


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    #733
    minerleague
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.

    Any harm to ask what kind of money for the 5712s? been looking at similar


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    #734
    CloughCasey1
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.

    Another one I've heard was from a lad in a yard not to far from us.
    What guarantee is with that Joe
    Ah there is the usual tail-light guarantee
    If she breaks down in the time it takes me to see your tail-lights disappear into the distance I'll sort ya out.


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    #735
    lakill Farm
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    Well Wear


    you got a good price for the cx


    Any major issues with it up to them hours?

    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    New to me at the weekend. Had been looking to buy a tractor with maybe higher hours and a smaller handler, but prices for both were over budget and I was unlikely to be happy with both machines. I had been keeping an eye out since Christmas and looked at a fair few machines, but prices were high for the hours on them. Asked a local dealer to keep an eye out for me and told him roughly what I was looking for, he had this within a fortnight.

    He told me to take it for a week and see if I was happy with it. Seems like a decent solid tractor and good enough visibility on the loader. Tyres are a bit more worn than ideal but there were a few of similar years with higher hours in around £27-28,500 but this is an 09 Reg, 5000 hours. Traded in an 02 McCormick cx90 with over 10,000 hours against it leaving the the deal at £17,500 plus VAT.

    554035.jpg


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    #736
    AntrimGlens
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    minerleague wrote: »
    Any harm to ask what kind of money for the 5712s? been looking at similar

    As far as I remember they were in around £32K, no loader so I didn't enquire too much. I priced that many machines, I could be way wrong!

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2017-massey-ferguson-5712-sl/26080037


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    #737
    AntrimGlens
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    Lakill, she was starting to give starter & fuel problems fairly regularly and despite draining and washing the tank a couple times, pipes cleaned, new filters etc. we couldn't get to the bottom it it.
    Plus brakes were due and really it was time for a change. The engine on that Cx was a great engine, never put a foot wrong and a great yard tractor.
    There was an 02 Reg Cx90 advertised in Fermanagh with 4,500 hours on it, looked in good condition, looking £14,500. I was very tempted, so i think i did alright in the deal.


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    #738
    Bass Reeves
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    Lakill, she was starting to give starter & fuel problems fairly regularly and despite draining and washing the tank a couple times, pipes cleaned, new filters etc. we couldn't get to the bottom it it.
    Plus brakes were due and really it was time for a change. The engine on that Cx was a great engine, never put a foot wrong and a great yard tractor.
    There was an 02 Reg Cx90 advertised in Fermanagh with 4,500 hours on it, looked in good condition, looking £14,500. I was very tempted, so i think i did alright in the deal.

    Did you replace the fuel line from the fuel tank to the lift pump

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #739
    Swindled
    Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png


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    #740
    Bass Reeves
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    Swindled wrote: »
    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png

    It would be no good it not 4WD how would you get across a rushy field in Leitrim in that ro shoot a few crows

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #741
    Swindled
    Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    It would be no good it not 4WD how would you get across a rushy field in Leitrim in that ro shoot a few crows

    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D


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    #742
    Dinzee Conlee
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    Swindled wrote: »
    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D

    Is it covered under TAMS?

    :)


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    #743
    Swindled
    Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    Is it covered under TAMS?

    :)

    Comes under structural improvements and the welding is all done to spec :pac:


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    #744
    J.O. Farmer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Swindled wrote: »
    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D

    I love it when a plan comes together, now where are my cigars.


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    #745
    Donald Trump
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    AntrimGlens wrote: »
    Try explaining to my father how dyna shift works. :D:D




    Wait til you have to explain to him how to work the hydraulic arms :pac:


    Buttons and knobs and wheels all over the place


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    #746
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Wait til you have to explain to him how to work the hydraulic arms :pac:


    Buttons and knobs and wheels all over the place

    An elderly neighbour up the road never mastered how to drive anything other than a MF35 and in later year's a 135. He got a few "lessons" year's back from another neighbour in said neighbours car. Things weren't going great on the motoring front and whatever took place this particular evening our man managed to land the car on it's side in a drain. It looked worse than it was, the car was recovered with minimal damage and it was deemed a simple mistake. However our man took it too heart and thanked his instructor for his assistance but said he'd stick to the tractor in future. He maintained you'd "want 3 feet to drive a car".


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    #747
    lab man
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    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    An elderly neighbour up the road never mastered how to drive anything other than a MF35 and in later year's a 135. He got a few "lessons" year's back from another neighbour in said neighbours car. Things weren't going great on the motoring front and whatever took place this particular evening our man managed to land the car on it's side in a drain. It looked worse than it was, the car was recovered with minimal damage and it was deemed a simple mistake. However our man took it too heart and thanked his instructor for his assistance but said he'd stick to the tractor in future. He maintained you'd "want 3 feet to drive a car".

    I know of a solicitor that drove into the car ferry and thought hed have to reverse out of it he couldn't understand that you could drive off a person had to drive on and off for him each time for years


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    #748
    Say my name
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    Swindled wrote: »
    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png

    Don't mean to bring down the tone.

    But it just shows the desperate situation of who cobbled that together during the Balkans war.
    Russian machine gun on a useless machine with tinfoil armour.


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    #749
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users Posts: 8,268 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    An elderly neighbour up the road never mastered how to drive anything other than a MF35 and in later year's a 135. He got a few "lessons" year's back from another neighbour in said neighbours car. Things weren't going great on the motoring front and whatever took place this particular evening our man managed to land the car on it's side in a drain. It looked worse than it was, the car was recovered with minimal damage and it was deemed a simple mistake. However our man took it too heart and thanked his instructor for his assistance but said he'd stick to the tractor in future. He maintained you'd "want 3 feet to drive a car".

    I learned to drive on Zetor crystals and bought my first car a few years later at about 19/20, which was a Corolla.

    Took a long time to get out of the habit of double clutching


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    #750
    Swindled
    Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Say my name wrote: »

    But it just shows the desperate situation of who cobbled that together during the Balkans war.
    Russian machine gun on a useless machine with tinfoil armour.

    When it's ethnic "cleansing" time and you've a family you cobble whatever you can. Seen a large homemade apc that was made in the shipyard for doing humanitarian runs in the streets during siege of Dubrovnik, much thicker armour, about 2" sloped plate, multiple small arms round impacts all over it but none gone through. Saved many lives in the city.


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    #751
    weatherbyfoxer
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    had a sales man here yeasterday pricing up changing a silage rake. he copied the mf 5610 in the yard here and immediately started trying to persuade me to trade it in for a new one..said he had a queue of lads waiting for used models like mine to come in


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