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Second hand tractors are gone expensive

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    cute geoge wrote: »
    what warranty will you get on the likes of them tractor from a dealer in the north or the uk .They might look cheap until they break down 4 weeks later and its not that easy to get any independent mechanic nowadays so the next tractor I buy will be from a local dealer unless of course I get the bargain of my life

    You have to get the tractor checked out. These sort of situations are not for everyone. What price would that tractor make here I am not sure. There may not be a huge saving buying in the UK. When you go to the UK looking for a car or a tractor you need to have 4+ that you are willing to go to look at. If the difference is 8-10K that will sort an awful lot of problems if they happen. Most dealer selling a tractor like that may only give you 6 months warranty or 500 hours.

    Real saving is any lad that is vat registered can go over and import that tractor without any vat. It can be virtually impossible to buy tractors of that size that have the vat on them. Even if they do dealers tend to be looking for a premium for them

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Form for what? They have a rebadged fpt engine, manual gearbox electric splitter and clutch and the remaining electrics are basic enough stuff.
    Reggie seems happy with his.

    Not the tractor, the company selling it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    New to me at the weekend. Had been looking to buy a tractor with maybe higher hours and a smaller handler, but prices for both were over budget and I was unlikely to be happy with both machines. I had been keeping an eye out since Christmas and looked at a fair few machines, but prices were high for the hours on them. Asked a local dealer to keep an eye out for me and told him roughly what I was looking for, he had this within a fortnight.

    He told me to take it for a week and see if I was happy with it. Seems like a decent solid tractor and good enough visibility on the loader. Tyres are a bit more worn than ideal but there were a few of similar years with higher hours in around £27-28,500 but this is an 09 Reg, 5000 hours. Traded in an 02 McCormick cx90 with over 10,000 hours against it leaving the the deal at £17,500 plus VAT.

    554035.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,881 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    New to me at the weekend. Had been looking to buy a tractor with maybe higher hours and a smaller handler, but prices for both were over budget and I was unlikely to be happy with both machines. I had been keeping an eye out since Christmas and looked at a fair few machines, but prices were high for the hours on them. Asked a local dealer to keep an eye out for me and told him roughly what I was looking for, he had this within a fortnight.

    He told me to take it for a week and see if I was happy with it. Seems like a decent solid tractor and good enough visibility on the loader. Tyres are a bit more worn than ideal but there were a few of similar years with higher hours in around £27-28,500 but this is an 09 Reg, 5000 hours. Traded in an 02 McCormick cx90 with over 10,000 hours against it leaving the the deal at £17,500 plus VAT.

    554035.jpg

    Well wear lad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭straight


    Best of luck with it. Should be a fairly simple basic tractor I would think. I like the side windows in them masseys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    straight wrote: »
    Best of luck with it. Should be a fairly simple basic tractor I would think. I like the side windows in them masseys.

    Try explaining to my father how dyna shift works. :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jntsnk


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Well wear lad

    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    jntsnk wrote: »
    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor

    It looks to be well tight to the windscreen, maybe looks a bit high alright, or else is just a very strong, beefy loader


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    jntsnk wrote: »
    Maybe it’s just the picture but the loader look far out from the tractor for centre of gravity. Did you lift anything with it to see how’s its balanced with a load. I know you probably have a counter weight in the rear just compared to your previous tractor
    Jb1989 wrote: »
    It looks to be well tight to the windscreen, maybe looks a bit high alright, or else is just a very strong, beefy loader

    Haven't lifted anything with it yet, supposedly the same loader as the Quicke 45 I think or maybe the Q35. Have a rear weight for her.

    There's a good bit of clearance between the window and loader, possibly just the angle the pic was taken. It does appear to be a beefier loader than the Quicke the neighbour has on his 5060. Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Haven't lifted anything with it yet, supposedly the same loader as the Quicke 45 I think or maybe the Q35. Have a rear weight for her.

    There's a good bit of clearance between the window and loader, possibly just the angle the pic was taken. It does appear to be a beefier loader than the Quicke the neighbour has on his 5060. Time will tell.




    There is likely actually a Quicke plate on that as well if you look for it. That will have the model on it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,881 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    There is likely actually a Quicke plate on that as well if you look for it. That will have the model on it

    Its a Q45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    lovely Massey, looks like its a good spec too with the extra work lights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭amacca


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Its a Q45

    correct and right....they are a bit too big for the tractor if thats a 5455 imo ...but having said that who doesnt like somethig thats overengineered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Wear well. Was that McElderry who got it for you - aren't they the big MF dealer in Antrim?

    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭minerleague


    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.

    Any harm to ask what kind of money for the 5712s? been looking at similar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    No he wouldn't be in the league of McElderrys, but then again he's only taking a small cut for himself. Hammy Kidd, he's on DD, had three nice 5712's in but too pricey for me..
    My father dealt with his uncle for years when buying IH 674's, 784's etc and would always ask if there was a guarantee with the tractor. Usual response was "there's a concrete guarantee, once she leaves this concrete there's no guarantee".

    Ah he's only up the road from us and had her fully stripped in the workshop to look her over before selling it to us.

    Another one I've heard was from a lad in a yard not to far from us.
    What guarantee is with that Joe
    Ah there is the usual tail-light guarantee
    If she breaks down in the time it takes me to see your tail-lights disappear into the distance I'll sort ya out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Well Wear


    you got a good price for the cx


    Any major issues with it up to them hours?

    New to me at the weekend. Had been looking to buy a tractor with maybe higher hours and a smaller handler, but prices for both were over budget and I was unlikely to be happy with both machines. I had been keeping an eye out since Christmas and looked at a fair few machines, but prices were high for the hours on them. Asked a local dealer to keep an eye out for me and told him roughly what I was looking for, he had this within a fortnight.

    He told me to take it for a week and see if I was happy with it. Seems like a decent solid tractor and good enough visibility on the loader. Tyres are a bit more worn than ideal but there were a few of similar years with higher hours in around £27-28,500 but this is an 09 Reg, 5000 hours. Traded in an 02 McCormick cx90 with over 10,000 hours against it leaving the the deal at £17,500 plus VAT.

    554035.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Any harm to ask what kind of money for the 5712s? been looking at similar

    As far as I remember they were in around £32K, no loader so I didn't enquire too much. I priced that many machines, I could be way wrong!

    https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/2017-massey-ferguson-5712-sl/26080037


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    Lakill, she was starting to give starter & fuel problems fairly regularly and despite draining and washing the tank a couple times, pipes cleaned, new filters etc. we couldn't get to the bottom it it.
    Plus brakes were due and really it was time for a change. The engine on that Cx was a great engine, never put a foot wrong and a great yard tractor.
    There was an 02 Reg Cx90 advertised in Fermanagh with 4,500 hours on it, looked in good condition, looking £14,500. I was very tempted, so i think i did alright in the deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Lakill, she was starting to give starter & fuel problems fairly regularly and despite draining and washing the tank a couple times, pipes cleaned, new filters etc. we couldn't get to the bottom it it.
    Plus brakes were due and really it was time for a change. The engine on that Cx was a great engine, never put a foot wrong and a great yard tractor.
    There was an 02 Reg Cx90 advertised in Fermanagh with 4,500 hours on it, looked in good condition, looking £14,500. I was very tempted, so i think i did alright in the deal.

    Did you replace the fuel line from the fuel tank to the lift pump

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,095 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Swindled wrote: »
    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png

    It would be no good it not 4WD how would you get across a rushy field in Leitrim in that ro shoot a few crows

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    It would be no good it not 4WD how would you get across a rushy field in Leitrim in that ro shoot a few crows

    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Swindled wrote: »
    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D

    Is it covered under TAMS?

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Swindled


    Is it covered under TAMS?

    :)

    Comes under structural improvements and the welding is all done to spec :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Swindled wrote: »
    With a range of 2000m and a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute, I don't have to get across the field . . the crows do. :D

    I love it when a plan comes together, now where are my cigars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Try explaining to my father how dyna shift works. :D:D




    Wait til you have to explain to him how to work the hydraulic arms :pac:


    Buttons and knobs and wheels all over the place


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,968 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Wait til you have to explain to him how to work the hydraulic arms :pac:


    Buttons and knobs and wheels all over the place

    An elderly neighbour up the road never mastered how to drive anything other than a MF35 and in later year's a 135. He got a few "lessons" year's back from another neighbour in said neighbours car. Things weren't going great on the motoring front and whatever took place this particular evening our man managed to land the car on it's side in a drain. It looked worse than it was, the car was recovered with minimal damage and it was deemed a simple mistake. However our man took it too heart and thanked his instructor for his assistance but said he'd stick to the tractor in future. He maintained you'd "want 3 feet to drive a car".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭lab man


    An elderly neighbour up the road never mastered how to drive anything other than a MF35 and in later year's a 135. He got a few "lessons" year's back from another neighbour in said neighbours car. Things weren't going great on the motoring front and whatever took place this particular evening our man managed to land the car on it's side in a drain. It looked worse than it was, the car was recovered with minimal damage and it was deemed a simple mistake. However our man took it too heart and thanked his instructor for his assistance but said he'd stick to the tractor in future. He maintained you'd "want 3 feet to drive a car".

    I know of a solicitor that drove into the car ferry and thought hed have to reverse out of it he couldn't understand that you could drive off a person had to drive on and off for him each time for years


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,060 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Swindled wrote: »
    Found one, armour plated 35

    seiszvmwon641.png

    Don't mean to bring down the tone.

    But it just shows the desperate situation of who cobbled that together during the Balkans war.
    Russian machine gun on a useless machine with tinfoil armour.


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