Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

AllForIt · 15-11-2020 4:32pm

.anon. wrote: »

.............right-wing buzzwords like 'woke' and 'identity politics' barely exist outside of the internet and most people couldn't care less about that kind of stuff, one way or the other..........

When I was last in Penny's they had a selection of T-shirts with WOKE printed across the front.

COVID · 15-11-2020 4:39pm

AllForIt wrote: »

When I was last in Penny's they had a selection of T-shirts with WOKE printed across the front.

On the pyjamas too?

the purple tin · 15-11-2020 4:43pm

AllForIt wrote: »

When I was last in Penny's they had a selection of T-shirts with WOKE printed across the front.

Made in some Asian sweat-shop no doubt. :rolleyes:

Cordell · 15-11-2020 6:23pm

Sweatshop sound offensive, let's use something like unsustainable workforce exploitation workshop.
You know, because WE CARE

nofools · 15-11-2020 6:25pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I was wondering how Trump got so close to getting reelected - he really did, the flip states have razor-thin margins. I was thinking “Nearly half the people who voted, voted for him. I refuse to believe that half the people who voted are bigots and racists”. So, what happened? How did that goober get so close to a second term? Then I saw an interesting exit poll statistic. Something like 88% of people who voted for Trump cited identity politics as a reason. People are fed up of being made to feel guilty for being white, fed up of being put in a box and expected to think and vote a certain way simply because they are an ethnic minority, sick of being called transphobic for minor reasons. People are tired of being judged and admonished by their “betters” when actually, I think most people are pretty decent and just want to live their lives with as little hassle as possible.

I thought that stat was really interesting. Identity politics fatigue played a big part in almost returning Trump to the White House. I actually said to my OH a few times in the last few months that I was worried that Biden and Harris’s flirting with ID politics would alienate voters who have much more pressing worries but I doesn’t think it would actually happen.

An extreme on one side only invites more to form on the other side.

This site was good fun years ago and now is just a battleground for partisan arguments across every issue.

People living in Ireland with extreme views on issues that don't even affect us.

Hate begets more hate

15-11-2020 7:01pm

nofools wrote: »

An extreme on one side only invites more to form on the other side.

This site was good fun years ago and now is just a battleground for partisan arguments across every issue.

People living in Ireland with extreme views on issues that don't even affect us.

Hate begets more hate

I disagree. You shouldnt only deeply care about issues that directly concern you. I personally think that is a selfish attitude and also one I can guarantee you don't live by. I'm sure you have very strong opinions on issues that don't impact directly on your life.

Strongly disagreeing with something is now being called hate. There's the problem. Debate is now stifled as hate or being "extreme" about something that shouldn't concern you.

nofools · 15-11-2020 7:22pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I disagree. You shouldnt only deeply care about issues that directly concern you. I personally think that is a selfish attitude and also one I can guarantee you don't live by. I'm sure you have very strong opinions on issues that don't impact directly on your life.

Strongly disagreeing with something is now being called hate. There's the problem. Debate is now stifled as hate or being "extreme" about something that shouldn't concern you.

That is not so much what i am getting at it.

To make the example, I see a freshly minted misogynist type as the birth child of a radical feminist (a reflexive reactionary type thing).

Every second thread in after hours/ca paints this picture.

I think we can all see the difference between someone with a strong opinion or someone who has developed their entire persona around a topic and lives and breaths it to the point of singular obsession. Opinion vs hate.

15-11-2020 7:32pm

nofools wrote: »

That is not so much what i am getting at it.

To make the example, I see a freshly minted misogynist type as the birth child a radical feminist (a reflexive reactionary type thing).

Every single thread in after hours/ca paints this picture.

I don't mean to be rude, and it may be my Sunday mind not clicking into gear, but I have re-read that post a few times and can't figure out what you mean.

*Edit* sorry maybe I can. I think you are saying that misogynistic behaviour is fuelled by third wave feminism and vice versa.

I kind of agree and disagree again. I think the definition of misogyny and indeed feminism have been hijacked.

I completely agree that men and women should be afforded the same opportunities but are different genders. By definition, that makes me a feminist. But the fact that I don't agree there is a gender pay gap and that I don't believe in a patriarchy, makes me at odds with what is socially referred to as a feminist.

I just believe in equal treatment. And that sometime gets me called far right.

nofools · 15-11-2020 7:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't mean to be rude, and it may be my Sunday mind not clicking into gear, but I have re-read that post a few times and can't figure out what you mean.

*Edit* sorry maybe I can. I think you are saying that misogynistic behaviour is fuelled by third wave feminism and vice versa.

I kind of agree and disagree again. I think the definition of misogyny and indeed feminism have been hijacked.

I completely agree that men and women should be afforded the same opportunities but are different genders. By definition, that makes me a feminist. But the fact that I don't agree there is a gender pay gap and that I don't believe in a patriarchy, makes me at odds with what is socially referred to as a feminist.

I just believe in equal treatment. And that sometime gets me called far right.

No interest in the topic itself, just be a good person.

But yes i think you are following me.. two antagonistic sides just spawn more of each other and everyone in the sensible middle suffers the consequences.

American politics , case in point

15-11-2020 7:38pm

nofools wrote: »

No interest in the topic itself, just be a good person.

But yes i think you are following me.. two antagonistic sides just spawn more of each other and everyone in the sensible middle suffers the consequences.

American politics , case in point

No I get you. Sorry man, been a long day.

Yeah I agree.

It's just a shame that debate is being stifled. Truth doesn't really matter to either side and their "team" winning is all that counts.

I agree. Be the best person you can be. If that upsets a couple of *****, **** them. Just do your own personal best each day.

Respect.

Gervais08 · 15-11-2020 7:39pm

I am heartily ****ing sick of being called “cis”. It’s offensive to me as a woman.

Even more pissed off to report it and see it allowed. Double standards by Boards.

15-11-2020 7:43pm

Gervais08 wrote: »

I am heartily ****ing sick of being called “cis”. It’s offensive to me as a woman.

Even more pissed off to report it and see it allowed. Double standards by Boards.

With all due respect..........

Nah I agree (surprise!!!!!)

I can't see why you are offended by the term, but I am a little perplexed by why this term is now common vernacular despite most people it refers to not being happy by it.

Pronouns in their bio excluded, who the **** refers to themselves as cis?

*Edit

If cis is a thing, can we finally have cis pride day? Because I'd happily counter protest it.

biko · 16-11-2020 10:00am

Asian students are no longer POC

https://www.nthurston.k12.wa.us//cms/lib/WA01001371/Centricity/Domain/2664/MonitoringStudentGrowth.pdf

Omackeral · 16-11-2020 10:11am

''Of Color/Colour''

Society can f*ck right off with that. This need to put people in neat boxes because of their skin pigment is absolutely repugnant. Dr King said the exact opposite in his famous speech and yet here we are. A complete 180 from those who would no doubt purport to idolise him.

Leftyflip · 16-11-2020 10:15am

Gervais08 wrote: »

I am heartily ****ing sick of being called “cis”. It’s offensive to me as a woman.

Even more pissed off to report it and see it allowed. Double standards by Boards.

Ah cis, where these social justice, virtue signalling nutters have taken a totally random term and decided to apply it to every day normal people.

I'm not a "cis man", I'm a man. My wife isn't a "cis woman", she's a woman.

Also, the phrase "uterus holders" or "people with a cervix", since when is woman a dirty word? F*ck off like, stop it with this nonsense.:rolleyes:

ArrBee · 16-11-2020 10:32am

When are we going to wake up!

The patriarchy, for too long, has been oppressing women in sport by forcing them to play with balls!
The time has come for all balls to be removed from woman's sport*

*obviously men declaring as women in sport are still allowed to have balls. :P

Wibbs · 16-11-2020 11:12am

biko wrote: »

Asian students are no longer POC

https://www.nthurston.k12.wa.us//cms/lib/WA01001371/Centricity/Domain/2664/MonitoringStudentGrowth.pdf

Well of course. It was only a matter of time. Because some might have to start asking the uncomfortable questions around why non White European Yellow Asian folks on average do better than both American POC and White Americans in a predominantly White culture where Asian Americans have suffered racism and exclusion for a very long time. If I were to bet, I reckon those from India will be quietly moved out of the POC label soon enough and for similar reasons. It's not "race" either, as those of a Pakistani background are less likely on average to have similar educational standards and wealth to Indians, yet are the same "race". Hell, recent Black African immigrants to the US do better than Black African Americans on average.

What the American culture and what it actually means to be "American" shows is a deeply rooted obsession with "race" and a deeply rooted racism with it and that the melting pot is melting and their internal narratives around it latterly are disappearing up their own arses trying to explain and wish that away.

Wibbs · 16-11-2020 11:16am

Omackeral wrote: »

''Of Color/Colour''

Society can f*ck right off with that. This need to put people in neat boxes because of their skin pigment is absolutely repugnant. Dr King said the exact opposite in his famous speech and yet here we are. A complete 180 from those who would no doubt purport to idolise him.

I was always more a Malcolm X man myself O. He was more into cutting through the bullsh1t of melting pot America and how the Black man and woman were excluded from it and how having a dream was all very well, but that's all it was and as has been shown since one that people need to wake up from.

Geuze · 16-11-2020 11:19am

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Aaaaand the contempt for voting people and their intellect continues. We’ve seen so much of that in the last four years. This is a lesson that will never be learned.

I’m so glad that Biden got over line but the slim margin of his victory should cause reflection. He barely beat Trump. Trump’s election four years ago was shown to not be an aberration. He came close again after four years in office. Why is that? Aren’t you interested to find out? Nah, much easier to write off half the voting population as dullards instead of trying to understand them.

There is a video by Bill Maher asking the Democrats to reflect on their poor result:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgrZAPUvKyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgrZAPUvKyA

Omackeral · 16-11-2020 11:42am

Leftyflip wrote: »

I'm not a "cis man", I'm a man. My wife isn't a "cis woman", she's a woman.

Also, the phrase "uterus holders" or "people with a cervix", since when is woman a dirty word? F*ck off like, stop it with this nonsense.:rolleyes:

Actually, I think you'll find it's womxn now.

Osborne · 16-11-2020 11:51am

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

Gervais08 · 16-11-2020 11:54am

Omackeral wrote: »

Actually, I think you'll find it's womxn now.

Over my dead adult female human body!!!!

Gervais08 · 16-11-2020 11:55am

Osborne wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

Jesus ****ing wept ...!!

sbsquarepants · 16-11-2020 11:55am

Osborne wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

Janet sounds like the sort of woke womxn who has never had the misfortune of having to deal with the shatters on a regular basis, or live near a trouble free picturesque shatter camp:D

sabat · 16-11-2020 11:58am

So does she refer to our former minister for justice as Alan Knacker?

Wibbs · 16-11-2020 12:08pm

Gervais08 wrote: »

Jesus ****ing wept ...!!

I didn't even click it. These days I see twitter and think, oh boy, heeeeere we go... I rarely bother.

The Interwebs and social media potentially gives a platform to all with a connection and that's great, but it also gives a platform to the clubs of oddballs, the unhinged, the naive, the neurotic, the dangerous, the thick, the zealots, and the shysters that we wouldn't otherwise have to deal with very often. What is common to that collection of people is they almost never see themselves as members. I take some solace in knowing that I know I'm a thundering gobsh1te and that's fine.

keano_afc · 16-11-2020 1:14pm

Osborne wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

A well known nutter.

ButtersSuki · 16-11-2020 1:20pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Janet sounds like the sort of woke womxn who has never had the misfortune of having to deal with the shatters on a regular basis, or live near a trouble free picturesque shatter camp:D

No, it's not Ciara Kelly.

Cordell · 16-11-2020 1:26pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Janet sounds like the sort of woke womxn who has never had the misfortune of having to deal with the shatters on a regular basis, or live near a trouble free picturesque shatter camp:D

What about stop calling SUVs Jeeps? I mean, jeep, jeepsy, it's definitely loaded.
Also, it assumes a particular carmaker, which takes away from their identities.

16-11-2020 1:36pm

Osborne wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

The little tagline under her name nearly had my eyes roll out of my head

“Omninerd, infovore, AntiFascist, GenX, White/cis/bi/sí/í. If I can't have My Reproductive Rights then it's not My Revolution.”

“Infovore”...won’t be long now before her head travels so far up her own arse that she collapses in on herself like a neutron star

Sir Oxman · 16-11-2020 2:13pm

Osborne wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Sharrow_irl/status/1327992738311233537?s=19

The middle class awfulness of yer one is a sight to behold!
When there is less and less actual racism, every performative dope will declare it everywhere.

Wibbs · 16-11-2020 2:14pm

I've read and heard the Infovore* tag before and I found in every single case the only information the tag bearer was interested in was that which agreed with their already fully formed worldview. Dogmavore might be the better descriptor as dogma never reads much beyond its official catechism. To do so is heresy.

*mad into consuming information.

Dyr · 16-11-2020 2:35pm

biko wrote: »

Asian students are no longer POC

https://www.nthurston.k12.wa.us//cms/lib/WA01001371/Centricity/Domain/2664/MonitoringStudentGrowth.pdf

Asians have always been seen as Uncle Toms by race grifters, what with their proclivity for two parent families, getting on in life and woefully low incarceration rates they're little more than collaborators in the systemic oppression of real peoples of colour.

Omackeral · 16-11-2020 2:47pm

Bambi wrote: »

Asians have always been seen as Uncle Toms by race grifters, what with their proclivity for two parent families, getting on in life and woefully low incarceration rates they're little more than collaborators in the systemic oppression of real peoples of colour.

They tend to just get on over here too. Rarely ever hear of Chinese gangs of roaming youths wrecking the gaff.

46 Long · 17-11-2020 1:22am

Welcome to 2020, where 'I

JK Rowling' is now considered hate speech

Gervais08 · 17-11-2020 1:23am

46 Long wrote: »

Welcome to 2020, where 'I JK Rowling' is now considered hate speech

We are ****ed!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 17-11-2020 1:26am

Leftyflip wrote: »

Ah cis, where these social justice, virtue signalling nutters have taken a totally random term and decided to apply it to every day normal people.

I'm not a "cis man", I'm a man. My wife isn't a "cis woman", she's a woman.

Also, the phrase "uterus holders" or "people with a cervix", since when is woman a dirty word? F*ck off like, stop it with this nonsense.:rolleyes:

Isn't that a bit like saying "I'm not a hetrosexual, I'm straight"?

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:28am

People who think female violence is as dangerous as male violence yet think transwomen are a danger to cis sexed women in sport.

People who think muslims have an issue with terrorism. But if you point out most terrorists white brown christian muslim or whatever are all hetero males they go blank.

They are so woke.

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:33am

Omackeral wrote: »

They tend to just get on over here too. Rarely ever hear of Chinese gangs of roaming youths wrecking the gaff.

yet you would want to see the amount of racial abuse hazel chu gets online.

Gatling · 17-11-2020 1:33am

Gervais08 wrote: »

We are ****ed!

Just insert Colm Meaney clips here .

I'm a man ( nah it's offensive now )

I'm a male ( nah it's offensive now )

Watching Harry potter tonight (that's now offensive)

People on twitter (nah offensive )

Mumsnet ( offensive)

Elvis Presley (ah jayus )

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:34am

Why is it that people think the phrase ..man up is offensive? I think that is daft.

I mean its usually said to someone ..usually male ..who is acting in a childish manner.

Its like saying ..be more like a lady ..when said to a woman. Like be more gracious.

Gervais08 · 17-11-2020 1:41am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Isn't that a bit like saying "I'm not a hetrosexual, I'm straight"?

No, I say straight but heterosexual isn’t an insult. Cis is used as a slur.

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:43am

Gervais08 wrote: »

Cis is used as a slur.

I dont feel its a slur and i am cis.

Gervais08 · 17-11-2020 1:45am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I dont feel its a slur and i am cis.

Snoop Dogg doesn’t think the n word is a slur. He’s black.

And it very much is a slur.

You don’t get to decide what is and is not offensive for everyone.

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:48am

Gervais08 wrote: »

Snoop Dogg doesn’t think the n word is a slur. He’s black.

And it very much is a slur.

You don’t get to decide what is and is not offensive for everyone.

Who uses it as a slur?

Also i think snoop dog does think the n word is a slur.

I think its a slur not to call me a cis female to be honest. It means people won't know i was born and still identify as female 100%

Gervais08 · 17-11-2020 1:48am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Who uses it as a slur?

Also i think snoop dog does think the n word is a slur.

He uses it often enough to make me think he’s ok with it.

.anon. · 17-11-2020 1:49am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Isn't that a bit like saying "I'm not a hetrosexual, I'm straight"?

Let's be totally honest about the mindset here... it's like saying "I'm not 'straight', I'm normal".

ILoveYourVibes · 17-11-2020 1:52am

Gervais08 wrote: »

He uses it often enough to make me think he’s ok with it.

mm nope ..he says n ending with a ...not er ...diff word

Its even spelt differently. And its in the dictionary. ALthough some think its one and the same word. But black people don't say it ending with er ....even if they don't have an accent using ebonics.

Pretty sure if white people say it ...its not taken too kindly.

I think its a slur not to call me a cis female to be honest. It means people won't know i was born and still identify as female 100%

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nigga

Chris_Heilong · 17-11-2020 1:55am

Gervais08 wrote: »

No, I say straight but heterosexual isn’t an insult. Cis is used as a slur.

I agree and the people who support it usually think they are being "an ally" to the gay community, In fact it does not aid LGBT at all and makes those using the term sound like weirdos to everybody that does not follow this crap.

...Ghost... · 17-11-2020 1:56am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Who uses it as a slur?

Also i think snoop dog does think the n word is a slur.

I think its a slur not to call me a cis female to be honest. It means people won't know i was born and still identify as female 100%

Ah the youth with time to kill will find woke appealing and post many times

Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users