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Normal People, is it realistic?

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  • #52
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Feels like someone had parents who helped ...and has forgotten.

    Did you miss the working since I was legally able to part....

    Or are you hard of reading.


  • #53
    MoonUnit75
    Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    listermint wrote: »
    Feels like

    A. You didn't have a car at that age.
    B. Weren't working since you were allowed to either.

    Have I hit the nail on the head ?

    Get a job ya bum. Being in school doesn't prevent you from doing that.

    He’s some guy though, working after school and weekends, has an active social life, drives his mother around, plays lots of sports, has a secret girlfriend and still gets enough points to do literature at Trinity.


  • #54
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    Did you miss the working since I was legally able to part....

    Or are you hard of reading.

    Did you miss the part where i told you that you wouldn't be able to afford it??

    I can do math.


  • #55
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    He’s some guy though, working after school and weekends, has an active social life, drives his mother around, plays lots of sports, has a secret girlfriend and still gets enough points to do literature at Trinity.
    There are some people like that.


  • #56
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Did you miss the part where i told you that you wouldn't be able to afford it??

    I can do math.

    Ha ha. Yes ok buddy.


    I'm glad you've lived my life.


    Are you contrary for the crack or ....


  • #57
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,550 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Normal/Boring people. My god it was a yawn fest.

    I watched all of 5 minutes of it before turning over to re-runs of the EPL


  • #58
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    Ha ha. Yes ok buddy.


    I'm glad you've lived my life.


    Are you contrary for the crack or ....


    Dude you are talking rubbish. You bought your own car and insurance while doing your leaving and working for minimum wage. With no help from parents. And you didn't have to hand anything up while working to your parents?

    Stop.


  • #59
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,618 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    He’s some guy though, working after school and weekends, has an active social life, drives his mother around, plays lots of sports, has a secret girlfriend and still gets enough points to do literature at Trinity.

    There are people like that though it comes easy to them until they run into some obstacle, although some never run into an obstacle life just fall in to place for them.


  • #60
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    cj maxx wrote: »
    I watched all of 5 minutes of it before turning over to re-runs of the EPL
    I gave it three tries.

    Honestly TV is terrible.


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  • #61
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Dude you are talking rubbish. You bought your own car and insurance while doing your leaving and working for minimum wage. With no help from parents. And you didn't have to hand anything up while working to your parents?

    Stop.

    Leaving ? I was driving in 5 year and working since 16

    What age are you ?


    Math isn't your strong point . Like at all


  • #62
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    Is Connell having a car at that age really that unusual? Most Leaving Cert students are 18 or 19 years of age now, which is up to 2 years older than they were when I was in school. I had reason to call into a college a few years ago and couldn't believe how many students' cars there were parked up around the place either. They're finding a way to pay for them. At a guess it's a mixture of saving up money from their part-time jobs, credit union loans and help from their parents.


  • #63
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Tork wrote: »
    Is Connell having a car at that age really that unusual? Most Leaving Cert students are 18 or 19 years of age now, which is up to 2 years older than they were when I was in school. I had reason to call into a college a few years ago and couldn't believe how many students' cars there were parked up around the place either. They're finding a way to pay for them. At a guess it's a mixture of saving up money from their part-time jobs, credit union loans and help from their parents.

    Seems it's unbelievable for people that only got a job when they started in 6th year.


  • #64
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Tork wrote: »
    Is Connell having a car at that age really that unusual? Most Leaving Cert students are 18 or 19 years of age now, which is up to 2 years older than they were when I was in school. I had reason to call into a college a few years ago and couldn't believe how many students' cars there were parked up around the place either. They're finding a way to pay for them. At a guess it's a mixture of saving up money from their part-time jobs, credit union loans and help from their parents.


    Yes. I just finished a third level course ..very few students had cars. Only the mature students did. They were all busing it.


  • #65
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    Leaving ? I was driving in 5 year and working since 16

    What age are you ?


    Math isn't your strong point . Like at all
    Some job...you got your car and insurance in one year!


  • #66
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yes. I just finished a third level course ..very few students had cars. Only the mature students did. They were all busing it.

    When I went to third level most of the first years had cars. Maybe things are different now. Not working... Later start to working in life.... Less work ethic?


    No idea.


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  • #67
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    Seems it's unbelievable for people that only got a job when they started in 6th year.

    My first job was 15. There is no way i could afford insurance and a car!


  • #68
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    Putting the student on a policy as a named driver is a way around it.


  • #69
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Some job...you got your car and insurance in one year!

    I was 16 in 4th year.

    It really feels like your maths failed you.

    What did you study in this third level institute...


  • #70
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    When I went to third level most of the first years had cars. Maybe things are different now. Not working... Later start to working in life.... Less work ethic?


    No idea.

    Nope they are all working.


  • #71
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,618 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yes. I just finished a third level course ..very few students had cars. Only the mature students did. They were all busing it.

    In rural areas its extremely common for teens to drive and not just with the well off, maybe this is showing up an urban-rural divide, load of my nieces and nephews were driving by 18.


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  • #72
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    My first job was 15. There is no way i could afford insurance and a car!

    Obviously weren't saving or working hard enough..


  • #73
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    I was 16 in 4th year.

    It really feels like your maths failed you.

    What did you study in this third level institute...


    Yeah ...you worked for a year ..and were driving in 5th year you said.

    That's ONE year ..and you manage to save up for a car working part time on minimum wage.

    That is some job.


  • #74
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    mariaalice wrote: »
    In rural areas its extremely common for teens to drive and not just with the well off, maybe this is showing up an urban-rural divide.

    Maybe it's showing mr/miss Vibes doesn't have the wordly experience they think they do..

    Also plays into their experience of this TV program and reflection of their life to it . Totally uncommon to them.


    Hmmm there's something in that.


  • #75
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yeah ...you worked for a year ..and were driving in 5th year you said.

    That's ONE year ..and you manage to save up for a car working part time on minimum wage.

    That is some job.

    Not here to prove my life's existence to you. Just amused how you think your own existence is mirrored in everyone else's


    .


    Lol


  • #76
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    mariaalice wrote: »
    In rural areas its extremely common for teens to drive and not just with the well off, maybe this is showing up an urban-rural divide, load of my nieces and nephews were driving by 18.
    Yes but i am assuming they are not coming from single parents families where the mother is a cleaner.


  • #77
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yes but i am assuming they are not coming from single parents families where the mother is a cleaner.

    You realise the car he owned is worth about 1.5k right...


  • #78
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    Not here to prove my life's existence to you. Just amused how you think your own existence is mirrored in everyone else's


    .


    Lol

    I know its not. That's the point. Your parents helped you.


  • #79
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    seamus wrote: »
    I'm not sure if the relationship is typical, but the characters definitely are.

    I absolutely cannot stand the male character, he reminds me so much of all of the wooden personality voids that I went to school with. Dead eyes, emotionless monotone conversation. Which is probably to the actor's credit.

    She definitely reminds me strongly of many people I went to college with, who used the new found freedom as an excuse to be overly pretentious and intellectual.

    There's not much groundbreaking in the relationship tbh. Most peoples' first sexual experiences are between 16 and 21, and they're often ill-advised, awkward affairs.

    there is more to conal than meets the eye , he is however quite cowardly , apart from being afraid to show any sort of difference from his friends , he is afraid to be seen with mariane as she is viewed as odd amongst said friends

    being different in anyway is frowned upon in secondary schools , especially in rural parts of the country


  • #80
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,618 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yeah ...you worked for a year ..and were driving in 5th year you said.

    That's ONE year ..and you manage to save up for a car working part time on minimum wage.

    That is some job.

    Centra, Spar, SuperValue or waiting on tables or pot washing are extremely common jobs with teens and the money is not that bad.


  • #81
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Some job...you got your car and insurance in one year!

    I was a lounge boy when I was 16, bought and insured a moped for the craic, could have gotten a second hand car for what I paid for it, so an 18 year old owning and taxing there own car? I'd believe it.


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  • #82
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    You realise the car he owned is worth about 1.5k right...
    I think the first year i worked at 15 i earned something like 900 that entire year after tax and having to hand up money at home ...buses etc.


  • #83
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I think the first year i worked at 15 i earned something like 900 that entire year after tax and having to hand up money at home ...buses etc.

    I'm sorry for ya , but the job was crap.


  • #84
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I think the first year i worked at 15 i earned something like 900 that entire year after tax and having to hand up money at home ...buses etc.

    Either you only worked Saturday or they exploited the **** out of you.


  • #85
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    listermint wrote: »
    I'm sorry for ya , but the job was crap.

    True.

    Meh ...im just jealous you got a car dont mind me. I got epilepsy! :)


  • #86
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    True.

    Meh ...im just jealous you got a car dont mind me. I got epilepsy! :)

    Don't worry I'd more expendable back then than I had in my late twenties...


    :(


  • #87
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,618 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    I was a lounge boy when I was 16, bought and insured a moped for the craic, could have gotten a second hand car for what I paid for it, so an 18 year old owning and taxing there own car? I'd believe it.

    My niece did that, unfortunately, the moped was too much for the steep hill they lived on, even back in the 1980s my sister got a moped when she was in college and my brother got a motorbike because he was fed up of public transport to college. A car for a student would have been a massive stretch in the 1980s


  • #88
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Either you only worked Saturday or they exploited the **** out of you.
    Apprentice wages.


  • #89
    vandriver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭vandriver


    listermint wrote: »
    Feels like

    A. You didn't have a car at that age.
    B. Weren't working since you were allowed to either.

    Have I hit the nail on the head ?

    Get a job ya bum. Being in school doesn't prevent you from doing that.
    Don't give up the day job and become a psychic.
    I'd hate to see you starve.


  • #90
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    I bought my first car while working in a poorly paid job. I got a loan from the local credit union and that got me started. Some of what I borrowed went toward the first year's insurance.

    I have family/friends/collleagues who've helped put their college age kids on the road with their first car. It really isn't that unusual at all.


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  • #91
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    mariaalice wrote: »
    My niece did that, unfortunately, the moped was too much for the steep hill they lived on, even back in the 1980s my sister got a moped when she was in college and my brother got a motorbike because he was fed up of public transport to college. A car for a student would have been a massive stretch in the 1980s

    I didn't even want the thing, I just had nothing else to spend my money on...... I wish I had that problem now....


  • #92
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Honestly I had assumed no teens got the adult minimum wage.

    That's why employers employee teens...they don't have to pay them the adult minimum wage.


  • #93
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    I didn't even want the thing, I just had nothing else to spend my money on...... I wish I had that problem now....

    Actually i do know friends who did that with clothes.

    I was always a cheapo ..they blew money on designer gear etc. They wouldn't do it now. I mean channel make up etc. Dior bags. Vuitton bags ...and they were lounge girls. Seemed mad to me.


  • #94
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Tork wrote: »
    The inarticulateness of the characters was really realistic too. I think we've got so used to watching articulate Americans with carefully crafted lines of dialogue, we forget that humans don't talk like that. We aren't always articulate or good at constructing proper sentences in our heads. We don't say what's on our minds, even though we should. If Connell had been better at saying what was on his mind, it would've made life a lot less complicated for him.

    Sounds like the anti-Dawson's Creek. And that's a good thing.


  • #95
    mariaalice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,618 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Honestly I had assumed no teens got the adult minimum wage.

    That's why employers employee teens...they don't have to pay them the adult minimum wage.

    I think you need to give up now.


  • #96
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Sounds like the anti-Dawson's Creek. And that's a good thing.

    I wonder what the target audience thought. I mean real 17 yr olds.


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  • #97
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I think you need to give up now.
    Its actually a huge issue. Partic in Hairdressing.

    https://www.joe.ie/life-style/young-workers-paid-less-621989

    Maybe its not relevant to you in YOUR life experience but it was for me and many young people.


  • #98
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Actually i do know friends who did that with clothes.

    I was always a cheapo ..they blew money on designer gear etc. They wouldn't do it now. I mean channel make up etc. Dior bags. Vuitton bags ...and they were lounge girls. Seemed mad to me.
    I used to work Friday and Saturday night, Sunday day if there was a match, but the main day was the first Tuesday night of the month...... Children's allowance day, I'd pull in 2 weeks wages in tips that night. If you work in a golf pub or a racing one after a win, there was serious money to be made in the early 00s


  • #99
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    I used to work Friday and Saturday night, Sunday day if there was a match, but the main day was the first Tuesday night of the month...... Children's allowance day, I'd pull in 2 weeks wages in tips that night. If you work in a golf pub or a racing one after a win, there was serious money to be made in the early 00s

    I was working five days a week as a hairdresser at 16 (bad idea i went back to school). I got 6 euro an hr.


  • #100
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    I did have a cleaning job later on ..that paid better in fairness.

    Anyway its just MY personal opinion flawed or not that part wasn't realistic. You don't have to agree.


  • #101
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,849 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    It’s cliched pretentious rubbish that depends on sensationalistic sex scenes for publicity.


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