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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,353 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Will you also go ahead with the wedding day in January ?

    We've decided on a ceremony in the hotel and then the usual fair after that. If it needs to be pushed again so be it, there's worse things going on in the world to worry about.

    We're getting married in August and that's what matters, the January thing is only a belated celebration, and if it has to be cancelled altogether we can do something else at a later date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    cant26 wrote: »
    Just received a wedding invitation for the 1st of August! We aren’t close friends so I imagine it’s a big wedding. Surely this won’t go ahead? Really surprised. Feel so awful for them but the cost of stamps and the effort in doing the beautiful invitations and envelopes seems like such a waste. Anyone else still planning their day for July or August?

    Goodness, that just sounds bonkers. There’s no earthly way I’d attend - even if it does happen, which I doubt. All I can think of is that something to do with hotel / refunds / insurance demands that they ‘go ahead’ with wedding plans and don’t cancel it themselves??


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    cant26 wrote: »
    Just received a wedding invitation for the 1st of August! We aren’t close friends so I imagine it’s a big wedding. Surely this won’t go ahead? Really surprised. Feel so awful for them but the cost of stamps and the effort in doing the beautiful invitations and envelopes seems like such a waste. Anyone else still planning their day for July or August?


    That's some serious bridezilla blinkers there. It's going to end in tears, but I'm guessing someone still ploughing on ahead in spite of the phased reopening wont be told. Pretty much everyone with a medical condition or related to someone with a medical condition with any sense will decline.


    Unless it's to prove a point. Say an overbearing parent (or partner!) insisting that the day -as planned- MUST go ahead no matter what. In that case if it was me, I'd probably fire out the invites and when all the declines come in just go "see? told ya!" and sod off and elope. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Our civil office (Dublin) were able to give us a date in July but prior to July 20th so strange that they said that to you, unless it's unique to the Cork civil office.

    Likewise with original hotel, they haven't been able to give any clarity simply because they don't know any more than ourselves they have said.

    I was just told no weddings prior to 20 July due to the roadmap. Like you said, could have been an office level decision.

    My main concern re hotel is minimum numbers. We committed to 100 people. In all likelihood, if we have any sort of meal, it will be maybe 20-25 people (two immediate families, plus a handful of close friends). I do not want to be stung for 100 people by the hotel.

    I am hopeful that they (and other hotels) will see sense re minimum numbers. I could accept minimum numbers being calculated on the amount of "social distant" guests we could have given the size of the room. Whilst I don't want to get stung, I don't want to punish the hotel unduly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    cant26 wrote: »
    Just received a wedding invitation for the 1st of August! We aren’t close friends so I imagine it’s a big wedding. Surely this won’t go ahead? Really surprised. Feel so awful for them but the cost of stamps and the effort in doing the beautiful invitations and envelopes seems like such a waste. Anyone else still planning their day for July or August?

    It IS mad, but I wonder if they already had the invites printed and ready to go before the pandemic. Maybe they decided "sure **** it, we'll send them anyway to get an idea of how many people might actually be willing to come and then make a decision on whether or not to go ahead".

    We still have our wedding booked for September this year. We have a plan B lined up with all of our suppliers now though for May 2021. We originally picked Oct 2021 as the backup date, but it's just SO far away. We're almost certainly going to postpone our original date and take our chances with May 2021. If the world is still on it's head by then, then we'll have much bigger concerns than throwing a party anyway! If we need to postpone again, we will, or we'll just go ahead with the legal bit and maybe have a very belated celebration at some other point down the line.

    We might still decide to do the legal bit in September as we have the marriage registration form. But I'm not sure I like the idea of putting so much thought into a lovely ceremony (music, readings, rituals etc) when realistically it might only be our parents there to witness it.

    I was still thinking of doing something to mark our original wedding date though. Maybe organise a belated engagement shoot with our photographer, have dinner in our venue, stay in the hotel we already have booked for the night etc. Possibly even get a small cake and use the custom cake topper we've ordered :P


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    I brought half of our wedding invitations to Ireland when I was there for Christmas (my half of the guest list are pretty much all in Europe, mostly Ireland and the UK). I addressed the envelopes and left them with my parents along with money for the stamps, because I figured it would be cheaper and quicker to send them from Ireland than it would be from Canada.

    Anyway it turns out that my Mum had put stamps on them before the pandemic, because she wanted them to be ready to post as soon as I gave her the word. Now she's trying to steam the stamps off the envelopes so she can use them for something else. I feel bad for all the bother but I also found it quite funny! Bless her, she was just being organised.

    Our wedding was supposed to be on 8th August, but we'll be postponing it - we just don't know yet when we'll be postponing it to. Hopefully we'll agree a date with the venue soon, and then we'll start getting onto all our vendors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Scarinae wrote: »
    I brought half of our wedding invitations to Ireland when I was there for Christmas (my half of the guest list are pretty much all in Europe, mostly Ireland and the UK). I addressed the envelopes and left them with my parents along with money for the stamps, because I figured it would be cheaper and quicker to send them from Ireland than it would be from Canada.

    Anyway it turns out that my Mum had put stamps on them before the pandemic, because she wanted them to be ready to post as soon as I gave her the word. Now she's trying to steam the stamps off the envelopes so she can use them for something else. I feel bad for all the bother but I also found it quite funny! Bless her, she was just being organised.

    Our wedding was supposed to be on 8th August, but we'll be postponing it - we just don't know yet when we'll be postponing it to. Hopefully we'll agree a date with the venue soon, and then we'll start getting onto all our vendors.

    You could hold on to the envelopes and do up cheap "Save our new date" cards. Our original Save the Dates were home-made - card stock from a hobby shop & photos printed from a photo store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Just thought this might be useful for some couples here... I'm in the "help I'm getting married" facebook group and someone from Spiritual Ceremonies posted the following:

    "Further to our correspondence with the HSE and GRO, it has been decided that we will resume solemnising marriages at the Spiritualist Union of Ireland, Dublin, from June 10th abiding to strict goverment soical distancing guidelines. This will be for the couple, their witnesses and their solemniser only which is a max of 5people ."


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    Pen Rua wrote: »
    You could hold on to the envelopes and do up cheap "Save our new date" cards. Our original Save the Dates were home-made - card stock from a hobby shop & photos printed from a photo store.
    I suppose we could, but I'm not sure if I can be bothered. We sent out really nice save the dates last year but I don't know if I'll do it again, I think I'll just tell people the new date when we have it. It would be just my luck to send out save the dates, and then have to postpone a second time :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    We didn't even bother with paper save the dates the first time around. We just sent them by email. If/when we send "change the dates" it'll be electronically again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Scarinae wrote: »
    I suppose we could, but I'm not sure if I can be bothered. We sent out really nice save the dates last year but I don't know if I'll do it again, I think I'll just tell people the new date when we have it. It would be just my luck to send out save the dates, and then have to postpone a second time :pac:

    I suppose. Could always hold them till you want to send thank you cards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Shelli2


    Hoping to do the legal bit towards the end of July or August, with 10 people in attendance, including bride and groom and registrar.
    Going to call the offices tomorrow to see if that's going to be possible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭cant26


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    We were due to get married on the 7th of August this year with about 160 guests. We've cancelled the full thing and been given a date in January 2021.

    I suggested to herself that we still get married in the church with our parents and bridal party on the 7th and lucky enough the priest has agreed.

    Back to our house then for a nice BBQ with the 12 of us. I think the idea really helped with the disappointment but you have to make the most of a bad situation.

    Sounds like a lovely idea. I hope ye have a fabulous day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭cant26


    SozBbz wrote: »
    Yikes, thats very surprising. I presume you're going to decline? I'd be a bit conflicted if it were a very close friend, but someone whos not close theres no way.

    Yes we will be declining. It’s just a bit mad. Initially my heart went out to her but now I just think she is being a bit selfish.
    I have no problem declining and honestly giving my reasons but I know some of her closer friends are fretting because they don’t want to put themselves in an uncomfortable position but also don’t want to hurt her feelings.
    It won’t go ahead I’m pretty sure if it so it’s unnecessary to be making your guests go through the whole rsvp process!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    We got engaged at New years, and had tentatively planned an end of 2020/start of 2021 wedding before all of this blew up. When it did, we decided to get our ducks in a row and phoned the registry office in Dublin and booked a September date. We were due to have our notification appointment at the end of this month but they called us yesterday and pushed it back to the 10th of June. The september date is still okay afaik, but it will just be us & witnesses.
    We have tentatively pencilled in an early April date in a couple of venues for the wedding proper but because the hotels are closed we haven't been in to book or put down a deposit. It may well be that when we do so we'll have to move it back to later in the year, but we're not panicking yet as we haven't actually paid any money out. It's not ideal, but it's so much better than having to cancel something that's already planned and paid for, my heart goes out to couples who've lost out on their big day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭Feets


    Did anyone lose the deposit on their band?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭dockysher


    we lost our deposit for the DJ and her makeup artist but we were lucky everyone else moved to new date.
    Well for now cause may have to move again in few months way things are looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    Feets wrote: »
    Did anyone lose the deposit on their band?

    Haven't booked a band, we have a photographer booked for both the registry office and the wedding next spring, but he's a friend of my OH's, and from the way he was talking, the entire wedding industry have lost the whole years bookings so he and everyone he knows in the industry are going to do whatever they can to accommodate couples and try to salvage something. We've told him things might get moved and he's willing to work with us. Have you rescheduled or cancelled altogether?


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Feets wrote: »
    Did anyone lose the deposit on their band?

    We did. No willingness to even meet us half way considering it’s not our fault they can’t play.

    Not so nice correspondence from them. Quite a mocking tone when we told them our new band name, they wanted to know had we asked them to waive the deposit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    Teach30 wrote: »
    We did. No willingness to even meet us half way considering it’s not our fault they can’t play.

    It’s not their fault they can’t play either! And I don’t know their circumstances, but they could have jumped on future bookings in order to keep going, ie someone else got to a future date before you. Perhaps they would have played ball had you been willing to move to a free date they had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    nikpmup wrote: »
    Haven't booked a band, we have a photographer booked for both the registry office and the wedding next spring, but he's a friend of my OH's, and from the way he was talking, the entire wedding industry have lost the whole years bookings so he and everyone he knows in the industry are going to do whatever they can to accommodate couples and try to salvage something. We've told him things might get moved and he's willing to work with us. Have you rescheduled or cancelled altogether?


    Thats why its important to comsider a mid week wedding. A lot of suppliers are self employed and nearly a yrs income lost. They still have rent/mortgage/food bill etc to pay. Plus i dont think many of your guest will mind. As a friend of mine said when we reschduled to a mid week day. Sure its not as if im going anywhere on holidays this year and ill still have to take my years allocation of annual leave or lose then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Teach30 wrote: »
    We did. No willingness to even meet us half way considering it’s not our fault they can’t play.

    Not so nice correspondence from them. Quite a mocking tone when we told them our new band name, they wanted to know had we asked them to waive the deposit.
    qwerty13 wrote: »
    It’s not their fault they can’t play either! And I don’t know their circumstances, but they could have jumped on future bookings in order to keep going, ie someone else got to a future date before you. Perhaps they would have played ball had you been willing to move to a free date they had.

    Whatever about the legal side of things, suppliers who are hanging onto deposits for a job they won't be able to fulfill on the date or at a future date is scummy IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Whatever about the legal side of things, suppliers who are hanging onto deposits for a job they won't be able to fulfill on the date or at a future date is scummy IMO.

    This! And I know it's not their fault however there are a multitude of other suppliers who are refunding deposits. Maybe they don't realise that businesses and services live and die by social media these days. Those who are refunding deposits and being very accommodating are getting plenty of free advertising and rightly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    Dovies wrote: »
    This! And I know it's not their fault however there are a multitude of other suppliers who are refunding deposits. Maybe they don't realise that businesses and services live and die by social media these days. Those who are refunding deposits and being very accommodating are getting plenty of free advertising and rightly so.

    This.

    If someone had booked and paid for a family holiday to Majorca in August and the travel agent offered 2 options:

    • an alternative date in January, when the kids are in school and the weather is miserable
    • or a refund minus your deposit

    Would people be happy with those options? I can guarantee you they wouldn’t. It can’t be one rule for one and not for the rest.

    Are self employed people not entitled to the same social welfare the rest of the state is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Thats why its important to comsider a mid week wedding. A lot of suppliers are self employed and nearly a yrs income lost. They still have rent/mortgage/food bill etc to pay. Plus i dont think many of your guest will mind. As a friend of mine said when we reschduled to a mid week day. Sure its not as if im going anywhere on holidays this year and ill still have to take my years allocation of annual leave or lose then

    Not everyone works office jobs or has annual leave. Our guests certainly wouldn’t be able to make a mid week wedding nor would we expect them to.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    It’s not their fault they can’t play either! And I don’t know their circumstances, but they could have jumped on future bookings in order to keep going, ie someone else got to a future date before you. Perhaps they would have played ball had you been willing to move to a free date they had.

    We tried to play ball but as they are popular they had no weekend dates.
    I’m over the money, if they’re that badly stuck for it they can have it. However the tone of their email correspondence was highly insulting. Very much a mocking tone when we even suggested the deposit back. They didn’t give a **** tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    Teach30 wrote: »
    We tried to play ball but as they are popular they had no weekend dates.
    I’m over the money, if they’re that badly stuck for it they can have it. However the tone of their email correspondence was highly insulting. Very much a mocking tone when we even suggested the deposit back. They didn’t give a **** tbh.

    If it was me personally, I'd make sure future customers know about this.

    Social media is powerful so wherever they advertise, I'd be posting a review about their behaviour as a 'paying customer'.

    The pandemic is affecting everyone, physically, mentally and financially, and personally, I don't feel anyone should be 'benefiting' from the misfortune of others and this sounds like exactly that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Teach30 wrote: »
    Not everyone works office jobs or has annual leave. Our guests certainly wouldn’t be able to make a mid week wedding nor would we expect them to.

    What job do you not have annual leave that you can never take a day off? And dont say teachers coz i know plenty that got married during school terms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    What job do you not have annual leave that you can never take a day off? And dont say teachers coz i know plenty that got married during school terms.

    Farmers.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    What job do you not have annual leave that you can never take a day off? And dont say teachers coz i know plenty that got married during school terms.

    A lot of construction workers are limited to two weeks off in summer and at Christmas, so lose money if they take days off outside of those timeframes. With covid a lot of employers have got their employees to use up part of their leave allocation during lockdown so as not to create staffing issues later when their workplaces open up again.

    Even before the epidemic, I would have declined a wedding invite on a weekday unless it was for a family members' wedding as my leave allowance isn't much and I want to prioritise it for my family holiday and Christmas. That's not slating anyone who has a weekday wedding by the way - fair play to them, as long as they understand not all guests might accept the invite.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Neyite wrote: »
    A lot of construction workers are limited to two weeks off in summer and at Christmas, so lose money if they take days off outside of those timeframes. With covid a lot of employers have got their employees to use up part of their leave allocation during lockdown so as not to create staffing issues later when their workplaces open up again.

    Even before the epidemic, I would have declined a wedding invite on a weekday unless it was for a family members' wedding as my leave allowance isn't much and I want to prioritise it for my family holiday and Christmas. That's not slating anyone who has a weekday wedding by the way - fair play to them, as long as they understand not all guests might accept the invite.

    Totally agree with this.

    For us the church ceremony is the most significant party of the day. We chose a weekend so that those I know teaching could attend. I wouldn’t be given a day off to go to a friends wedding nor would I expect to get the day off. I’d be embarrassed to even ask.

    Therefore I wouldn’t expect colleagues to attend week day, that’s why we were limited in our choice. We want our friends to be able to witness the best party of the day.

    Time of year is also significant for us as certain times not suitable due to work commitments.

    Band should have given us half back, morally wrong what they did. I’d imagine we weren’t the only ones they did this to so they pocketed a fair amount over covoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SozBbz


    Neyite wrote: »

    Even before the epidemic, I would have declined a wedding invite on a weekday unless it was for a family members' wedding as my leave allowance isn't much and I want to prioritise it for my family holiday and Christmas. That's not slating anyone who has a weekday wedding by the way - fair play to them, as long as they understand not all guests might accept the invite.

    Agree, weekday weddings are annoying and unless the person matters a lot to you, then I'd also likely decline.

    That siad, I've been at weddings on Tuesday (1), Wednesday (1), Thursday (2) and Friday (3) during the week and with the exception of Friday weddings which in my experience people don't mind too much, all of there others sparked a lot of low level resentment chitchat behind the couples backs mostly. Stuff along the lines of people being tight by getting a cheaper wedding at the expense of their guests annual leave.

    Obviously if you're doing a civil wedding then it has to be midweek but I do think guests appreciate if you can get a weekend date.

    All of that being said, that was pre Covid 19 and I think all rules are out the window now.
    1. Weddings will likely be smaller for the next while anyway
    2. People will be understanding as it stands to reason that that there will be less Saturday/Sunday dates available for next year as the majority of 2020 weddings will now happen in 2021 along with all the weddings that would have naturally happened in that year anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Teach30 wrote: »
    Farmers.

    Unorganised ones maybe. I grew up on a busy one and there was always time put aside for days out or holidays. All is takes is planning in advance.One thing that annoys me how farmers have this image of never able to take time off

    With the backlog, weekend weddings dates are going to be v hard to get over the next few years.. plus restrictions are going to be in place early next year too so we will be having smaller ones either way.
    I certainly wouldnt critize anyone for having a mid week one. Its a way of kepping suppliers already booked and they will be delighted of the business. Plus couple getting married maybe on a tight budget so mid week suits them rather than putting extra financial presurre on themselves. One thing i found annoying before covid was this pressure from outsiders of having to so Z,Y,Z


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Unorganised ones maybe. I grew up on a busy one and there was always time put aside for days out or holidays. All is takes is planning in advance.One thing that annoys me how farmers have this image of never able to take time off

    With the backlog, weekend weddings dates are going to be v hard to get over the next few years.. plus restrictions are going to be in place early next year too so we will be having smaller ones either way.
    I certainly wouldnt critize anyone for having a mid week one. Its a way of kepping suppliers already booked and they will be delighted of the business. Plus couple getting married maybe on a tight budget so mid week suits them rather than putting extra financial presurre on themselves. One thing i found annoying before covid was this pressure from outsiders of having to so Z,Y,Z

    Organisation is not a problem. Lack of availability for reliable relief milkers would be. I don’t know any farmers who are able to take weeks off for holidays and they’re all very organised. A few days at most is all I would expect. There’s an image there because it is the truth.

    Very hard to leave a business in the hands of what is often a stranger for long periods of time.

    Grand if it suits the clientele to have a midweek wedding but for our family and friends it would take the enjoyment out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Sure farming doesnt stop saturday or sunday either.

    Anyways back to the point of suppliers trying to save something from this years wedding seassion. If couples are planning to try and go ahead this year if possible dont rule out mid week esp if your going down small immediate route. I feel sorry for photographer, makeup artist,etc where weddings are their main source of income.. Our suppliers were delighted when they heard midweek.one in particular stood out.
    I think this whole pandemic is going to change Irish weddings for a long time even when we are passed the whole covid thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Sure farming doesnt stop saturday or sunday either.

    Anyways back to the point of suppliers trying to save something from this years wedding seassion. If couples are planning to try and go ahead this year if possible dont rule out mid week esp if your going down small immediate route. I feel sorry for photographer, makeup artist,etc where weddings are their main source of income.. Our suppliers were delighted when they heard midweek.one in particular stood out.
    I think this whole pandemic is going to change Irish weddings for a long time even when we are passed the whole covid thing.

    No but far easier get relief at the weekend when students etc are not in college and friends not working so can help.

    If suppliers were reasonable with their dealings with couples who have had to postpone then I would have no problem re-booking them. Hard to feel sorry for them with they are holding onto large deposits. As I said earlier if they are out of work they’ll be receiving the Covoid payment. They'll make up for it next year when they’ll be working midweek and weekends.

    Of course they’ll be delighted with midweeks next year but I can’t see it becoming a thing for future years. Anyone I know who had to change this year re-booked a weekend date next year or year after. That’s 6 couples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Most suppliers are reasonable but unfortunately thats the nature of a deposit. Like booking anything not all deposits are refundable. Current situation is out of everyones control and some may not be able to afford refund or only afford part refund. However if same said supplier was living the highlife id be livid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Teach30 wrote: »
    As I said earlier if they are out of work they’ll be receiving the Covoid payment. They'll make up for it next year when they’ll be working midweek and weekends.

    The 350euro a week Covid payment wouldn't be anything close to what they were earning before.

    While they'll have more business next year compared to a normal year, it's not feasible to do two years worth of work in one year. The popular bands are usually already pretty booked up in a normal year.

    They still have to pay rent, bills, food etc NOW. Making a little more money next year isn't going to help them this year when the bills are stacking up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    woodchuck wrote: »
    The 350euro a week Covid payment wouldn't be anything close to what they were earning before.

    While they'll have more business next year compared to a normal year, it's not feasible to do two years worth of work in one year. The popular bands are usually already pretty booked up in a normal year.

    They still have to pay rent, bills, food etc NOW. Making a little more money next year isn't going to help them this year when the bills are stacking up.

    Good point and of course holding onto deposits despite not being able to supply their service is an ideal way to pay bills.

    We all have bills to pay NOW, I work hard to earn money to pay mine. Can’t say the same about this band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Look, the deposit is non-refundable. Regardless of the circumstances. Everybody knows that when they hand over the money.

    I'm just trying to convince you to have a little bit of sympathy for suppliers. It doesn't sound like you're out of work due to the pandemic. They are. Try to be a little understanding of the position they've found themselves in. Count your blessings that you still have a regular income.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    woodchuck wrote: »
    The 350euro a week Covid payment wouldn't be anything close to what they were earning before.

    While they'll have more business next year compared to a normal year, it's not feasible to do two years worth of work in one year. The popular bands are usually already pretty booked up in a normal year.

    They still have to pay rent, bills, food etc NOW. Making a little more money next year isn't going to help them this year when the bills are stacking up.

    €350 is the same amount that a couple, who were due to get married but now are out of work, could be getting. And they too are having all the normal bills of rent, food, as well as paying for extra vendors, paying for additional invites etc

    And to anyone saying that deposits are “non-refundable”; if you booked a non-refundable flight with Ryanair, and they subsequently couldn’t fly you to your destination due to Covid, through no fault of their own, would you accept only the taxes and fees back? Or would you expect the full whack? Because a quick wander over to the Travel forum answers that one pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    There's whole heap legislation in place for flights though to protect the customer (who pays the full price up front to a large corporation). It's like comparing apples and oranges.

    If people are really unhappy that they haven't gotten their deposits back from suppliers, they could try the small claims court. A small fee of 25euro and it's all done online.

    I'm just trying to see things from the other side and I feel REALLY sorry for the suppliers who have found themselves in a horrendous position financially. And I am a 2020 bride who is very likely to postpone (not a supplier).


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Look, the deposit is non-refundable. Regardless of the circumstances. Everybody knows that when they hand over the money.

    I'm just trying to convince you to have a little bit of sympathy for suppliers. It doesn't sound like you're out of work due to the pandemic. They are. Try to be a little understanding of the position they've found themselves in. Count your blessings that you still have a regular income.

    Seriously?!
    It means as much to me as to them. I’ve very little sympathy for those who try to fleece consumers. Retaining a €500 deposit in times like this is morally wrong.

    Did it ever occur to you that that suppliers might only do wedding jobs on the side? For many it’s not their only source of income. They can have a regular income too, difference is I work to earn mine.
    If they kept every deposit for (April-July) 15 weekends with two gigs a weekend. You do the maths.

    And you expect me to have sympathy, more fool you.


    For anyone who does proceed with small claims court I wish you the best of luck also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    woodchuck wrote: »
    There's whole heap legislation in place for flights though to protect the customer (who pays the full price up front to a large corporation). It's like comparing apples and oranges.

    If people are really unhappy that they haven't gotten their deposits back from suppliers, they could try the small claims court. A small fee of 25euro and it's all done online.

    I'm just trying to see things from the other side and I feel REALLY sorry for the suppliers who have found themselves in a horrendous position financially. And I am a 2020 bride who is very likely to postpone (not a supplier).

    I have full sympathy for suppliers at the moment. And everyone who finds themselves out of work right now.

    But the fact is, if they are claiming the covid payment and can’t play a couples new date, they have no right to keep the deposit. That’s double dipping.

    I don’t condone people claiming the dole and working off the books at the same time, so I can’t condone claiming the covid payment and keeping cash for a job; it’s the same thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Bellabride2020


    Hi all brides and grooms, We were holding out for our October 2020 wedding but I think we will have to reschedule now. How did you pick a new date? I'm so indecisive and have even thought about going into 2022. We could have it Oct 2021 or April 2022. I do like the idea of having a spring wedding but it will be further away


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Hi all brides and grooms, We were holding out for our October 2020 wedding but I think we will have to reschedule now. How did you pick a new date? I'm so indecisive and have even thought about going into 2022. We could have it Oct 2021 or April 2022. I do like the idea of having a spring wedding but it will be further away


    I just went one year in advance as it was kind of in my head, so now it feels like the same wedding just further down the line. I got it on pretty much the same day as it would have been when the celebrant and venue were free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Shelli2


    Anyone have any ideas what happening with registry office weddings?

    Had anyone been able to book a date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    Shelli2 wrote: »
    Anyone have any ideas what happening with registry office weddings?

    Had anyone been able to book a date?

    We're due to get married on the 23rd Sept in the registry office. Our notification appointment was due to be this month, but they're pushed it to the 10th of June. I asked whether the ceremony would definitely be going ahead, the lady I spoke to couldn't say for definite but she - as of this week - was operating under the assumption that ceremonies are going ahead subject to restrictions in place at the time. We're assuming that it'll just be us, registrar and witnesses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Shelli2


    nikpmup wrote: »
    We're due to get married on the 23rd Sept in the registry office. Our notification appointment was due to be this month, but they're pushed it to the 10th of June. I asked whether the ceremony would definitely be going ahead, the lady I spoke to couldn't say for definite but she - as of this week - was operating under the assumption that ceremonies are going ahead subject to restrictions in place at the time. We're assuming that it'll just be us, registrar and witnesses

    Thanks, we have our intent to marry documents already, we were due to get married on 2nd May but it was cancelled. We'd like to do the civil ceremony ASAP but no reply to any emails to the registry offices to find out when we can book, we'd like to book a date in late July.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SozBbz


    Shelli2 wrote: »
    Thanks, we have our intent to marry documents already, we were due to get married on 2nd May but it was cancelled. We'd like to do the civil ceremony ASAP but no reply to any emails to the registry offices to find out when we can book, we'd like to book a date in late July.

    Simon Harris was on Pat Kenny this morning and the subject of weddings came up. He indicated small weddings would be allowed after July 20th (phase 4) wiht close friends and family but wouldnt put a number on it (he did say 100, 80 etc is not small), just that they were still working on it.

    Might be worth listening back to it.


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