Is Organised Child Trafficking in America for Real?

Overheal · 02-11-2019 2:59pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Does it prove that there isn't organised child sex trafficking in America?
Because I suggest that there is.
Can you find it anywhere other than Snopes?

It proves the opposite, as I said in the originating post.

Overheal · 02-11-2019 3:00pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

I've proven that Snopes are bad fact checkers.
I've proven Google lie.

In terms of the latest link, you will also need to read the FBI documents, sorry.

Is youtube a reliable fact checker

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:03pm

King Mob wrote: »

I wouldn't be wearing if you just answered questions directly and honestly the first time and provide the evidence you say you had when you were asked.

You've been constantly dodging questions and refusing to back up your not two entirely separate conspiracy theories. It's kind of your own fault.

An example of your dodging is below:

You don't respond to my question here.
Is your original claim true or do you believe that it is false now?

You've shown what you believe in one mistake by snopes, then refused to engage when people have shown your claim there was wrong.

The FBI lie and have made mistakes, so we can dismiss their report.

You just posted a youtube video which: 1) comes from google as they own youtube and 2) there are endless youtube videos we can show are wrong and lies. So we can reject that video also.

It's a bit selective to apply your standards to some but not others.

Dismiss away. You are claiming I'm wrong about Snopes?
Really.
I've given you a direct example, they are off my list of opinions to be trusted. As are Google as I have also proven.
I'm happy to let others decide.
If you don't watch it you'll never know and therefore will have nothing cogent to add.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:06pm

Overheal wrote: »

Is youtube a reliable fact checker

No, they certainly are not. If you want an example, ask again.
You might not like the result.
The film and FBI documents are to be used in conjunction.

Dohnjoe · 02-11-2019 3:07pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

they are off my list of opinions to be trusted.

You picked one article, decided it was wrong. Turns out you actually support the conclusion. That the article is in fact correct. And you still decide you "dont trust the source". For no reason.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:08pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You picked one article, decided it was wrong. Turns out you actually support the conclusion. That the article is in fact correct. And you still decide you "dont trust the source". For no reason.

Won't you ever get tired of being wrong?

TaurenDruid · 02-11-2019 3:12pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

I've proven that Snopes are bad fact checkers.
I've proven Google lie.

In terms of the latest link, you will also need to read the FBI documents, sorry.

But you've said yourself you haven't read the document yet.

Also - Google (whom you claim lie, you "proved" nothing) own and operate YouTube?

Dohnjoe · 02-11-2019 3:12pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Won't you ever get tired of being wrong?

You do realise that every single news agency and source of information (and online translator) makes mistakes. It doesn't mean you can dismiss them entirely as a source for one mistake or one perceived mistake. That makes no sense.

Their overall accountability and credible has to be taken into account. It's a spectrum.

We've encountered people who literally dismiss the study of science, the study of history, academia, the world's media - just to validate some ridiculous personal conspiracy

You are showing signs of heading in that direction with this bizarre conspiracy of yours..

King Mob · 02-11-2019 3:13pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Dismiss away. You are claiming I'm wrong about Snopes?
Really.
I've given you a direct example, they are off my list of opinions to be trusted. As are Google as I have also proven.
I'm happy to let others decide.
If you don't watch it you'll never know and therefore will have nothing cogent to add.

Youtube is owned by google. You just posted a youtube video. How is this not massively hypocritical on your part?

And no, you have not given any good reason why anyone would watch a long youtube video. In my experience with conspiracy theorists like yourself such videos never contain what you say they do, and they never provide their own evidence.
Posting videos is not a substitute for having an opinion.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:16pm

King Mob wrote: »

Youtube is owned by google. You just posted a youtube video. How is this not massively hypocritical on your part?

And no, you have not given any good reason why anyone would watch a long youtube video. In my experience with conspiracy theorists like yourself such videos never contain what you say they do, and they never provide their own evidence.
Posting videos is not a substitute for having an opinion.

I've given my opinion on the finders.

I won't read the FBI report. Wah!
I won't watch the film. Wah!

I'm not helping with your pollution any longer.

Dohnjoe · 02-11-2019 3:17pm

24 pages of avoiding explaining a conspiracy

Even people who think the world is flat can give a basic synopsis of it and answer some basic questions

King Mob · 02-11-2019 3:19pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

I've given my opinion on the finders.

I won't read the FBI report. Wah!
I won't watch the film. Wah!

I'm not helping with your pollution any longer.

And you're back to dodging, which is how we know it would be a waste of time to watch the video or read your report.

But seriously though, you just said that you didn't trust google and two posts later you post something from google to support your conspiracy theory.
I am genuinely curious how you justify that to yourself...
What's the thought process there?

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:20pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You do realise that every single news agency and source of information (and online translator) makes mistakes. It doesn't mean you can dismiss them entirely as a source for one mistake or one perceived mistake. That makes no sense.

Their overall accountability and credible has to be taken into account. It's a spectrum.

We've encountered people who literally dismiss the study of science, the study of history, academia, the world's media - just to validate some ridiculous personal conspiracy

You are showing signs of heading in that direction with this bizarre conspiracy of yours..

It wasn't a mistake on the part of Google. They have proven that they are malicious liars.
Why don't you check the internal email addresses and see how high it goes?
Actually do something constructive.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:22pm

King Mob wrote: »

And you're back to dodging, which is how we know it would be a waste of time to watch the video or read your report.

But seriously though, you just said that you didn't trust google and two posts later you post something from google to support your conspiracy theory.
I am genuinely curious how you justify that to yourself...
What's the thought process there?

Bye! You're going in my bin for now.

King Mob · 02-11-2019 3:25pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Bye! You're going in my bin for now.

Yup, questions dodged. Thanks for announcing you're sticking your fingers in your ears.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:25pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

24 pages of avoiding explaining a conspiracy

Even people who think the world is flat can give a basic synopsis of it and answer some basic questions

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A third of this thread is you banging on about how you don't trust Snopes as a source - and it turns out you were completely wrong about the Snopes article, it was in fact correct.

Are you man enough to admit that it wasn't me that continually returned to it?

Are you going to give a reply to this?
My bin if you don't.

Dohnjoe · 02-11-2019 3:36pm

Spencerfreeman wrote: »

Are you going to give a reply to this?
My bin if you don't.

You are presenting your opinion as fact.

So far it's a baseless personal opinion that you can't support. Its devolved to the point where you are being so evasive and pedantic that you are literally putting people on ignore.

You don't seem to grasp the fact that if something falls apart the moment it is scrutinised, it might not actually be true. Or you do, and you don't want to back down and admit that.

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:38pm

This is a film that supports what I have contended in this thread somewhere.
It is an excellent bit of investigative journalism which describes what the founders a child sex trafficking and satanic worshiping group were about.

Marion Pettie was the leader of the group.
There is an interview with another of the group leaders in which he denies a lot of what was put to him. His answers are not credible when you read the FBI documents which are attached below.
For further synopsis see some of my previous posts.

This FBI documents should be used in conjunction with the film.
It was not available to the maker at the time.
I have some of the documents shown in the film if anyone has constructive questions.

https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-01/view?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

TaurenDruid · 02-11-2019 3:38pm

So far you're ignoring, I think, three different people who've all asked how you can reject Google as liars, on the one hand, and on the other point to a video on their platform as evidence...

Spencerfreeman · 02-11-2019 3:42pm

TaurenDruid wrote: »

So far you're ignoring, I think, three different people who've all asked how you can reject Google as liars, on the one hand, and on the other point to a video on their platform as evidence...

Plainly, I have proven using primary documents from google that they maliciously lied purely to damage Trump.

This is not a google film.

I have put them on my ignore list for now so that I'm no longer participating in the pollution of this thread.
They are welcome to do the same if they wish.

Dohnjoe · 02-11-2019 3:51pm

No prizes for guessing the source for the video is the usual anti-5g, anti-fluoride, anti-vaxx, 911 truther, false flag shootings, conspiracy craptacular

Overheal · 02-11-2019 7:05pm

Youtube is known to censor views. If they host this video then I don’t trust their motive.

Treppen · 07-11-2019 5:08pm

Jesus this forum is no fun. You can't have a crack at looking at something without being shouted down by the same people who don't believe in the word conspiracy. Dunno wtf they are doing here tbh.

Back to Reddit I go

Dohnjoe · 07-11-2019 5:28pm

Treppen wrote: »

Jesus this forum is no fun. You can't have a crack at looking at something without being shouted down by the same people who don't believe in the word conspiracy. Dunno wtf they are doing here tbh.

Back to Reddit I go

In case the above isn't sarcasm, translation below

"Post nonsense on a public forum, said nonsense gets called out, flee to echo chamber that is more accepting of nonsense"

Is Organised Child Trafficking in America for Real?

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