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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Are you following a plan or is it all self coaching?

    Following a 12 week P&L plan, maxes at 63 miles. Enjoying it, love the Endurance runs on the plan as it’s a big weakness of mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Just found this log B - thought you'd gone!

    If I said well done on the win (page 1), would it be too late??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Just found this log B - thought you'd gone!

    If I said well done on the win (page 1), would it be too late??

    I’m like a drug addict who just can’t quit with this place A.......

    Thanks for the well done, never to late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    If I said well done on the win (page 1), would it be too late??

    Have you not heard. He's picking soft races for wins. Shocking stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Have you not heard. He's picking soft races for wins. Shocking stuff.

    Haha!!! Low blow that!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Week 7/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!

    Tuesday 10.9.19

    4.50miles Recovery@8.57min/miles in 40mins 19secs

    If i could have fallen asleep while running this to i would have been very happy, tired body & legs.

    Wednesday 11.9.19

    Rest Day, i knew few weeks back this was on the plan. Herself had meetings all day that ran into evening.

    Thursday 12.9.19

    9.75miles Gen Aerobic@8.25min/miles in 1hr 22mins 09secs

    Glorious early evening run in Den Haag, the sun was out and it was warm, nice warm though. Looping back in via Kijkduin the sun shining off the North Sea was beautiful, some seriously big container ships visible out at sea also.

    Friday 13.9.19

    w/u, 40min Tempo, c/d.

    I was dreading this since last week when i seen it on the plan, the unseasonal warm afternoon didn't help with the apprehension either. Set off on my usual route for doing these sesssions, two mile warm up brought me to the cycle lanes and off i went. One thought in my head only, stay relaxed. Into pace handy enough and on out past Kijkduin where i turned at 20mins in and back into the usual breeze. Working a bit harder on the return but nothing major, back to my starting point and i was done and very happy with job i made of the session. Apart from a few stops for bicycles i was in the zone the whole way, mile splits for Tempo were:

    6.22, 6.23, 6.21, 6.21, 6.23, 6.24, 6.12.

    Thigh and hamstring cramped a bit on cool down which has never happened to me before, 10.25 miles for the day.

    Saturday 14.9.19

    Rest Day, like Wednesday knew i wouldn't get out today.

    Sunday 15.9.19

    10.40miles Endurance@7.46min/miles in 1hr 20mins 52secs

    Warm afternoon run out towards Kijkduin which was mental due to the weather and a more urban return back down Laan Van Meerdervoort and home, hamstring tightened up shortly after the run and remained that way for the evening.

    Monday 16.9.19

    Enforced rest due to said hamstring, was suppose to run 16 mile Endurance with last 3@LT but not a hope with the hammer.

    34.90 miles for the week:(:(:(.

    I had swapped my weeks around mileage wise from next week to this due to the two rest days being involved, but i didn't envisage a hamstring strain of some kind to come into effect though. Deal with it and hope it doesn't keep me off the road for long, never had a hamstring issue before:confused::confused:.


  • Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Back in Black


    Hopefully the hammer is nothing sinister B but good to see you being sensible with it.

    That tempo session that you done on Friday is animal - that's a real indicator of the shape you are in. I think the key with the long tempos is to ease into the pace and feel your way into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Week 8/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!

    Monday 16.9.19

    Rest Day, hamstring sore and was starting to worry as the day went on as there was no ease at all in it. Went to bed very despondent.

    Tuesday 17.9.19

    7.20 miles Gen Aerobic@8.27min/miles in 60mins 52secs

    After zero feedback from the hamstring while walking and cycling delivering the mail i ventured out around the neighbourhood for a few miles to see how it held up, not a peep out of it thankfully and all was good in the world once more.

    Wednesday 18.9.19

    10.25 miles Gen Aerobic + 2(5x150m strides)@8.09min/miles in 1hr 23mins 34secs

    Set off down Segbroeklaan and made my way onto Laan Van Meerdervoort and on towards Ockenburgh where after clearing the trees around the golf course i started the strides, cautious not to go off to hard but wanted to see how the hammy held up all the same. Need not have worried as it held up just fine as i ran back towards home along Cort Van der Lindenpad, 7 big container ships out in the North Sea snaking there way away from Europort and onto there next destination.

    Thursday 19.9.19

    9 miles Gen Aerobic@8.24min/miles in1hr 15mins 43secs

    Loop around Westduinpark, the harbour, Westbroekpark, Nieuw Scheveningse Bosjes and home in the afternoon sun. Lovely afternoon to be running.

    Friday 20.9.19

    Enforced Rest Day, no window to run with herself heading out.

    Saturday 21.9.19

    8.10 miles Gen Aerobic@8.10min/miles in 66mins 33secs

    Same route as Tuesday with a bit added on, was tight for time as the better half and myself were heading out, another sunny afternoon for a run. Loads of various types of sport being played in the pitches i ran past.

    Sunday 22.9.19

    5.65 miles Gen Aerobic@8.23min/miles in 47mins 21secs

    A lap around Scheveningse Bosjes and the new version of same before heading to the ADO Den Haag match with the Chief. On the wrong end of the result again after totally dominating the game, could well be a long season:mad::mad:. Ajax at home next:eek::eek:.


    Monday 23.9.19

    12.85 miles Endurance@7.42min/miles in 1hr 38mins 57secs

    Set off towards Monster in the prevailing wind and was feeling the love for this straight away, turned onto the drag along Schelpenpad, right at the top of the drag back towards Kijkduin along the cycle lanes. Bouncing off the surface even in the 90%+ humidity. One of those runs you wished would not end, got home drenched in sweat but delighted with my mornings work.

    53.05 miles for my week that was supposed to include a race but for the first time i'd say since i came here there was no race of any kind on around Den Haag. Not a bad thing i suppose considering how the hamstring was at the start of the week. Happy to get the mileage back up even though it was mostly easy stuff. Three weeks of decent training left to go!!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,513 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    I like the thread title. Reminds me of old sci-fi films where the 21st century would often be talked about in terms of flying cars, etc. We ain't there yet, but at least we can still run.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    I find the L protocol very helpful for hamstring strains



    Simple exercises that take less than 5 minutes. The only problem is being diligent and making yourself do them consistently. It has always worked for me though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    I find the L protocol very helpful for hamstring strains



    Simple exercises that take less than 5 minutes. The only problem is being diligent and making yourself do them consistently. It has always worked for me though

    Cheers Kate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Week 9/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!

    Tuesday 24.9.19

    9.45 miles Easy/Gen Aerobic@8.26min/miles in 1hr 19 40secs

    Wet, wet, wet out but the usual 90%+ humidity still lurked. A lap around Westduinpark, the harbour and around by Scheveningse Bosjes and home. A sweaty wetty run.

    Wednesday 25.9.19

    Rest Day, had to due to family circumstances.

    Thursday 26.9.19

    11.35 miles Endurance@7.42 in 1hr 27mins 29secs

    Another sweaty wetty run on up Laan Van Meerdervoort around Ockenburgh and back home through Kijkduin along the cycle paths.Humidity still in the 90's. Last mile of this was at LT plus 30secs and it felt very comfortable, was travelling at 5.15 pace along the last section of it according to Garmin Connect:eek:.

    Friday 27.9.19

    6.20 miles Easy@8.28min/miles in 52mins 34secs

    Lap around Scheveningse Bosjes, Madurodam and Westbroekpark and back home. Body feeling good. Watched the woman's marathon later that night, dropping like flies because of a measly 78% humidity, pfft, come run with me!!!

    Saturday 28.9.19

    w/u, 6x1,200m@5k(50% rec), c/d

    Really was w/u, 4x1,200m@5k and plug pulled. I was looking forward to this all week when i seen it on the plan, i enjoy 5k paced sessions to be honest. From the off though i was working to hard, breathing very laboured and legs weren't feeling it. I considered pulling the plug after 3 but gave it one more to see before knowing that was my lot. Few years back this would have thrown me but i know by now that there will be a few bad sessions in a plan, i haven't had many during this one so i was due. Longer cool down than expected for 10.35 miles for my afternoon.

    Sunday 29.9.19

    Enforced Rest Day, weather warning in Den Haag and man did it rain, crazy stuff at times during the day. Weather has to be severe for me to not run, today it was.

    Monday 30.9.19

    16.70miles Endurance@7.41min/miles in 2hrs 8mins 18secs

    The effects of yesterdays weather in full view as i made my way up Laan Van Meerdervoort at 10am this morning, surface water everywhere made it feel like a steeplechase at times, turned onto Monsterweg and on out towards Monster and Ter Heijde into a fairly still beeze that never really bothered me. On past the cannons that commemorate the [URL="http:///en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Scheveningen"]http:///en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Scheveningen
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    for a mile then turned around and glided along with the wind at my back on through Kijkduin then the cycle paths and home. Like last Monday, a run i did not want to end. Feeling super strong on this.

    54.05 miles for the week with one run missed because of weather. Another week i'm happy with, no real bad signs of fatigue and getting used to the consecutive 50 mile weeks. One more of those left before i enter taper, will be living like a monk till the 20th of October:):):). Another thing that cheered me up today, i started the year weighing 85kgs+ currently just above 75kgs, loss of over 10kgs which can only help my running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭MY BAD


    The thing with weight is be careful loosing weight when building towards a race. I think it's better to drop a few kg in the winter time when you're ticking over. Food is the fuel and runners need a lot of it, especially if training towards a half or full. I would rank food and sleep and two of the most important things for runners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    The thing with weight is be careful loosing weight when building towards a race. I think it's better to drop a few kg in the winter time when you're ticking over. Food is the fuel and runners need a lot of it, especially if training towards a half or full. I would rank food and sleep and two of the most important things for runners.

    No issues with food anyway, getting plenty of it and all the right stuff. Fruit, veg, diary and cabs in my diet and my wife is very conscious of me having a good diet with running as well as setting a good example for our children. Sleep can be up and down but that’s something i’ve suffered with all my adult life, it’s good at the minute so hopefully it will stay that way for another few weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    I'm all caught up, you won a race (well done!), you adjusted your fuzzy rabbit ears to get a clearer picture (glad to hear the picture is clear again..) and you're a boards 'drug' addict - yep, there's a definite pull back to this place for sure!

    Good to see a new log, with some new, very impressive goals. No better man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    I'm all caught up, you won a race (well done!), you adjusted your fuzzy rabbit ears to get a clearer picture (glad to hear the picture is clear again..) and you're a boards 'drug' addict - yep, there's a definite pull back to this place for sure!

    Good to see a new log, with some new, very impressive goals. No better man.


    Thanks for the kind words AM, great to see you back up and about again to after your ordeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Week 10/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!

    Tuesday 1.10.19

    Rest Day, would be the common theme this week.

    Wednesday 2.10.19

    9.25 miles Easy@8.27mi/miles in 1hr 18mins 13secs

    Chilly afternoon run, first signs of a chill in the air coming in off the North Sea. A run on past Kijkduin before looping around again through Westduinpark and home.

    Thursday 3.10.19

    5.50 miles Gen Aerobic@8.15min/miles in 45mins 27secs

    Small window to get this in, quick loop towards the harbour cutting in through Westduinpark and home through Bosjes Van Poot.

    Friday 4.10.19

    Rest Day.

    Saturday 5.10.19

    w/u, 8miles@HMP, c/d.

    This was the important run of the week, i was suppose to race but couldn't get the day off. I briefly thought of a 5 mile time trial, but its easy to throw the towel in when running it solo as you genuinely know its not a race!! So went for some decent mileage at HMP. Out more or less straight after work, it was a perfect afternoon for running cool and little or no breeze.

    A two mile warm up and started into the HMP miles, quickly into pace as i headed on towards Kijkduin. Plan was to run towards Monster on the cycle paths before tuning onto the Schelpenpad and onto Monsterweg an back for home. On through Kijkduin and onto the cycle path i was moving well when i spied a man standing on the side of the path, as i got closer i seen what he was doing. Taking a leak and not a care in the world who seen his particulars:eek::eek::eek:. Could do nothing but laugh as i passed, on into Westland i encountered the only rise on the route where the path kicks up for 400m or so, caused no issues. Onto the Schelpenpad and dropped down towards Monsterweg.

    Brief pause to cross the road and back into it, feeling great. Back into Loosduinen and up Ockenburgstraat which is a gentle climb but nothing to effect the pace, pause for a bit at lights as i cross onto Laan Van Meedervoort for last half mile. Delighted how i was still feeling, hit ten miles and the end of the HMP miles. Is there another 5.1 miles at that pace left? i would like to think there is. Splits were:

    6.22, 6.20, 6.20, 6.20, 6.20, 6.18, 6.18, 6.19.

    12.50 miles for the afternoon.

    Sunday 6.10.19

    Rest Day.

    27.25miles for the week. A week i knew was coming long before i started the plan as herself was on a course all week that involved early starts and some very late finishes that ruled out any runs. Family comes first, that goes without saying before running. A real confidence boosting run Saturday so the week wasn't a total bust. Two weeks:eek::eek::eek:!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    Wow 8m @ HMP. With no breaks. Either that's a savage session or you're sandbagging big time :p

    Nice work Barry :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Wow 8m @ HMP. With no breaks. Either that's a savage session or you're sandbagging big time :p

    Nice work Barry :D

    Cheers Kate, it’s the former rather than the latter!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Nice one Barry, no harm in a low mileage week every so often, as your excellent HMP run demonstrates.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Week 11/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!

    Monday 7.10.19

    Rest Day.

    Tuesday 8.10.19

    7.10 miles General Aerobic@8.19min/miles in 59mins 06secs

    Usual neighbourhood jaunt around the various parks and forests nearby, one think still very evident even though the temperatures have dropped is the high humidity. I sweated buckets on this even though the temp was 12 degrees max.

    Wednesday 9.10.19

    Rest Day, work went on a lot longer than it should. It was lashing rain to boot and i slipped badly aggravating my right foot. Very painful for rest of day and evening:mad::mad::mad:.

    Thursday 10.10.19

    11.15 miles Gen Aerobic@8.20min/miles in 1hr 32mins 54secs

    Yesterday's and today's run rolled into one, the foot was still quiet tender to walk on but caused no issues while running:confused:. Tired legs and body on this, work possibly the cause of this, busy at the minute and the loads of post are a lot heavier than normal on the bike. Met the Dutch army out on a training run in full battle dress.

    Friday 11.10.19

    6.50 miles Gen Aerobic@8.20min miles in 54min 11secs

    Brutal day here weather wise, got absolutely soaked through at work. Tired plod in the rain.

    Saturday 12.10.19

    Rest Day, foot very sore.

    Sunday 13.10.19

    12.70 miles Endurance@7.24min/miles in 1hr 33mins 58secs

    Woke and foot felt ok, the young lad is attending an ADO Den Haag soccer school of a Sunday morning so i ran down with him and done laps of Zuiderpark as he trained. Again no issues from the foot on this, few faster miles thrown in as i tried to keep up as himself cycled.

    37.45 miles for the week. Feel like i'm falling over the line with the plan, the foot issue knocked the confidence this week and its something i will get looked at after next Sunday as long as it behaves till then. This day next week i hope to have a very happy hangover:D:D:D!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    OOnegative wrote:
    37.45 miles for the week. Feel like i'm falling over the line with the plan, the foot issue knocked the confidence this week and its something i will get looked at after next Sunday as long as it behaves till then. This day next week i hope to have a very happy hangover !!!

    I have visions of you and Sean waking very hungover in some very dodgy part of Amsterdam. Haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    I have visions of you and Sean waking very hungover in some very dodgy part of Amsterdam. Haha.

    No he sent strict instructions to buy some Ovaltine as he needs to be in bed by 10.30pm at the latest. Feckin OAP’s........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Week 11/12 Amsterdam Half Prep!!


    37.45 miles for the week. Feel like i'm falling over the line with the plan, the foot issue knocked the confidence this week and its something i will get looked at after next Sunday as long as it behaves till then. This day next week i hope to have a very happy hangover:D:D:D!!!

    I think the last number of months has seen you in fine form, probably the best you've been in.

    I've no doubt that it'll be a happy hangover next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    I have visions of you and Sean waking very hungover in some very dodgy part of Amsterdam. Haha.

    As a result of Ireland losing to Japan they are now playing New Zealand on Saturday morning. This might result in my hangover being brought forward a day and my target time for the half increased to 2:15 :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Good luck on Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    You've super training done, i hope all the dots join up and you have a great race! And g'luck trying to keep that other fella out of trouble :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    Best of Luck on Sunday, great training for this B so go get the rewards and enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    Run well B, enjoy it, the boy's weekend and the IPA's :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Best of luck B......good training behind you for this one :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Have a great run on Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,021 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    Best of luck on a Sunday B!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Hope you get to cash in all that great training! Enjoy the race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    Best of luck Sunday:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Best of luck on Sunday... hope you run well!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Good luck on Sunday! I've a feeling you're in for a great weekend, race-wise and the rest!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Good luck on Sunday B. Enjoy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Good luck tomorrow B. Trust the training!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭kerrylad1


    Best of luck tomorrow,B.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,476 ✭✭✭Comic Book Guy


    All the best tomorrow B, you have a great block of training done for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Good luck and ENJOY!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Thanks so much for the messages, PM’s and posts here lads. A/R really really is a great place to be a part of and I appreciate the sentiments so much.

    Weather looking perfect for tomorrow so I can’t come on here and offer excuses after the race. Fingers crossed it goes well, talk to ye tomorrow afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    OOnegative wrote:
    Weather looking perfect for tomorrow so I can’t come on here and offer excuses after the race. Fingers crossed it goes well, talk to ye tomorrow afternoon.

    No pressure and run your own race. Use us as inspiration ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,489 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    All the best, B.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Anticipation is killing me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Anticipation is killing me

    I'm tracking on the app.

    0 - 5k: 19:46 (3:57)
    8.9k: 35:11 (3:57)
    10k: 39:31 (3:56)
    13.9k: 54:52 (3:56)

    Expected finish: 1:23:12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    15k: 59:12 (3:56)

    Expected finish: 1:23:08


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Legend B. Thanks. The app isn't playing ball for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    18.9k: 01:14:16 (3:51) !!!

    Expected finish: 1:22:45 :cool:

    Come on B!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    1:22:38!!!!!!!


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