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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm struggling with NoFap while working from home in my small bedroom. I'm rarely outside either atm with weather and work.

    Where there is a will there is a way. Weather is rarely a good excuse for not going out in the world. Rather it is just something we blame as the reason for our own lack of motivation for doing so. Cold? Dress warmer. Rain? It's only water.
    I feel so awful physically and mentally after fapping.

    There may be some underlying medical or mental issue in play for you then that does not exist for the vast majority of "normal" people. You could explore this with your doctor. I have seen _no evidence ever_ that masturbation causes such issues in anyone. I have however seen evidence that it can exacerbate already underlying existing conditions.
    I don't believe **** is in healthy at all, there would be no NoFap movement if it was.

    There is nothing wrong with 5G either that I can find - yet there are movements of people against that. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality - yet there are movements against that. There is nothing wrong with vaccines - yet there are massive movements against that. I could go on for hours.

    There are plenty of perfectly fine things in our world - yet people line up to oppose them anyway. Your argument is - at best - circular and at worst deluded.

    If there is evidence something is bad - let's find it. The existence of people pretending it is bad is not that evidence. At best it's what is known as "argumentum ad populum"
    Sex is different and natural. I believe masterbation reduces testosterone.

    You can believe it - but belief is not evidence. One issue is that people seem to think that "testosterone" is some thing that should be constantly level and anything that changes it is bad. The reality is that testosterone levels change constantly throughout the day anyway. Increases and decreases in it are natural. Secondly high levels are not to be revered. Saying "ohhhh it reduces" seems to automatically imply a reduction is a bad thing. It is not. It goes up and down all the time. Third - on what basis or evidence are you suggesting any reduction caused by masturbation is different or more significant to that caused by sex? And finally - you throw out the word "natural" here rather arbitrarily. What makes you assume "sex" is any more "natural" than masturbation?
    Many boxers abstain in the lead up to fights, it gives them an extra advantage

    Thought in sports is divided on that actually. In my combat training I have had trainers suggest abstaining from sex and masturbation before a fight. I have had trainers suggest the exact opposite. This is _opinion_ only and not backed up by evidence.

    What sports people can and should do is work out what works best for _them_ and keep doing that. As should you. If an individual finds it gives them an advantage - real or placebo - then they should definitely do that. But no one else should take this as evidence of any actual benefit.

    But working out what works for you then merely selecting the sports people who do the same as you while ignoring the ones that do not - is just what is known as "confirmation bias".
    Back decades ago people thought smoking was great and everyone of a certain age did it. People even believed it was healthy and benefited from it.

    It was the total opposite. Eventually the act of masterbation and pornography will go the same way. People are slowly walking up.

    This is a very poor argument. Deflection at best. Conspiracy theory thinking at worst.

    Are there things that we once thought harmless or beneficial - but which we now thing harmful? Yes - absolutely.

    Is that evidence that any particular _other_ thing that seems harmless or beneficial is going to turn out to be harmful? No - not even a little.

    This nonsense is like going into a court room to prove someone guilty of murder and instead of offering any evidence at all that the accused is guilty - you merely mention someone entirely different and say "well he was thought innocent but then turned out to be guilty!".

    Conspiracy Theorists use the same deflection you used here. If they have no evidence at all for their own pet conspiracy theory - they will instead point to the tiny handful of other conspiracy theories that actually did turn out to be true. And then declare "See - no one believed those ones - so you should believe mine!".


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I think noFap is a nice life choice if it gives you a benefit but as prior poster suggested, perhaps it's more of a mental thing for you Fran?

    Can only speak for myself but I feel relaxed after a ****, helps me get to sleep or unwind after work, leave the day behind. There are lots of bad ways to release endorphins but while science and popular belief is that masturbation is not one of them, I don't see anything wrong with it.


    Porn is related but I think it's also its own thing. You can masturbate without watching porn as I often do. I do find excess porn is a lot on the brain, too much for the senses, akin to how my body would receive a sh*t load of sugar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Don’t get the lad who says he cums as he’s doing a poo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Don’t get the lad who says he cums as he’s doing a poo

    If its some size of a log it might hit the prostate I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    I always took it that boxers abstained just to make themselves more aggressive from being pent up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,811 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Nah this is the real reason

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    BrianD3 wrote: »
    some lads are probably naïve enough to think that "I wanked about you last night" is a great compliment to pay someone.

    It freaked me out :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Don’t get the lad who says he cums as he’s doing a poo

    Think he was just looking for a reaction :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    What's the longest you've gone pal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Monokne wrote: »
    What's the longest you've gone pal?

    Me? About a week I think


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Was asking the dude who was talking about how great he feels when he doesn't, Thermo905, out of curiousity!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    The 3 bar safety valve blows off a load every 3-4 weeks so he is offloading whether he chokes it or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Would the involuntary nocturnal emissions not negate any benefits of abstaining?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I think your first paragraph is spot on Thermo. I can masturbate often without any negative impact but if I watch too much porn I find myself getting shorter tempered/shorter attention span. It's like eating a diet of skittles for a week and then eating an orange. Suddenly you can't really get much taste from the natural sugar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    Anyone ever have issues with their genitals following a nocturnal emission? The following paragraph might be a bit graphic, so fair warning

    Last week, I had an issue, I woke up in the middle of the night with an erection and my boxers were wet. I don't think the fluid was semen because it was not like semen in terms of consistency. The next morning I felt my penis was swollen (it was in its "resting state"). Like it was hard. I started pressing on the foreskin and it was agony. To my shock, I was able to "push out" from under the foreskin, at the tip, a large mass of hard yellow substance. It took me three separate sessions to remove all the hard yellow stuff. Any idea what this could be? My penis has gone back to relatively normal since then. I'm not sexually active with multiple partners or anything, so no concerns about STDs, rarely masturbate either. I know there is a yellow cheese under the foreskin lol, but it's like a dry paste, and there's not a lot of it. This stuff was hard like clay. I was shocked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    Go for a shower Jason and wash your penis and pull back your fore skin and wash that too. Have a tug while you are at it also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Monokne wrote: »
    How is that going? Any effects, positive or negative, to report back?

    No problems so far. No major physical benefits but mentally I do feel somewhat better.

    My job can be tiring and that's enough to knock me out so no need to go at it. My drive mustn't be as mad as others. Find it no bother to stop


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    I'd struggle to go a day without. It's like maintenance for me, routine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    Anyone ever have issues with their genitals following a nocturnal emission? The following paragraph might be a bit graphic, so fair warning

    Last week, I had an issue, I woke up in the middle of the night with an erection and my boxers were wet. I don't think the fluid was semen because it was not like semen in terms of consistency. The next morning I felt my penis was swollen (it was in its "resting state"). Like it was hard. I started pressing on the foreskin and it was agony. To my shock, I was able to "push out" from under the foreskin, at the tip, a large mass of hard yellow substance. It took me three separate sessions to remove all the hard yellow stuff. Any idea what this could be? My penis has gone back to relatively normal since then. I'm not sexually active with multiple partners or anything, so no concerns about STDs, rarely masturbate either. I know there is a yellow cheese under the foreskin lol, but it's like a dry paste, and there's not a lot of it. This stuff was hard like clay. I was shocked.
    Ask a doctor.

    I passed a kidney stone during sex once. It was very small but I felt it acutely and it freaked me out. Sorry to hear you passed something large and hard as it must have been horrific.

    You could google kidney stones and see if it looks like one of those. (Though still a good idea to mention it to a doctor one way or another.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Anyone ever have issues with their genitals following a nocturnal emission? The following paragraph might be a bit graphic, so fair warning

    Last week, I had an issue, I woke up in the middle of the night with an erection and my boxers were wet. I don't think the fluid was semen because it was not like semen in terms of consistency. The next morning I felt my penis was swollen (it was in its "resting state"). Like it was hard. I started pressing on the foreskin and it was agony. To my shock, I was able to "push out" from under the foreskin, at the tip, a large mass of hard yellow substance. It took me three separate sessions to remove all the hard yellow stuff. Any idea what this could be? My penis has gone back to relatively normal since then. I'm not sexually active with multiple partners or anything, so no concerns about STDs, rarely masturbate either. I know there is a yellow cheese under the foreskin lol, but it's like a dry paste, and there's not a lot of it. This stuff was hard like clay. I was shocked.
    Sounds like smegma. Do you clean it regularly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 481 ✭✭mr.anonymous


    Anyone ever have issues with their genitals following a nocturnal emission? The following paragraph might be a bit graphic, so fair warning

    Last week, I had an issue, I woke up in the middle of the night with an erection and my boxers were wet. I don't think the fluid was semen because it was not like semen in terms of consistency. The next morning I felt my penis was swollen (it was in its "resting state"). Like it was hard. I started pressing on the foreskin and it was agony. To my shock, I was able to "push out" from under the foreskin, at the tip, a large mass of hard yellow substance. It took me three separate sessions to remove all the hard yellow stuff. Any idea what this could be? My penis has gone back to relatively normal since then. I'm not sexually active with multiple partners or anything, so no concerns about STDs, rarely masturbate either. I know there is a yellow cheese under the foreskin lol, but it's like a dry paste, and there's not a lot of it. This stuff was hard like clay. I was shocked.

    It was the more 'dense' part of your ejaculation after a wet dream. You won't push it all out as much when you're asleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Anyone ever have issues with their genitals following a nocturnal emission? The following paragraph might be a bit graphic, so fair warning

    Last week, I had an issue, I woke up in the middle of the night with an erection and my boxers were wet. I don't think the fluid was semen because it was not like semen in terms of consistency. The next morning I felt my penis was swollen (it was in its "resting state"). Like it was hard. I started pressing on the foreskin and it was agony. To my shock, I was able to "push out" from under the foreskin, at the tip, a large mass of hard yellow substance. It took me three separate sessions to remove all the hard yellow stuff. Any idea what this could be? My penis has gone back to relatively normal since then. I'm not sexually active with multiple partners or anything, so no concerns about STDs, rarely masturbate either. I know there is a yellow cheese under the foreskin lol, but it's like a dry paste, and there's not a lot of it. This stuff was hard like clay. I was shocked.

    Go to your GP about that Jason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    Monokne wrote: »
    I'd struggle to go a day without. It's like maintenance for me, routine.

    Likewise, almost daily and if I get a headache I'm straight to it as it fixes things pretty quickly.

    Married with 2 kids so its a bit of 'me' time, mostly in the toilet these days standing up. A bit messy lying down as I'm a full bush guy down there so one flush and it's gone lol.

    I also find the colour of my love juice changes if don't **** for a few days.

    On the whole 'its bad for you' bit strange, unlike smoking and other things you are not hurting anyone else.

    Work away lads, you never know when you may not be able too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Likewise, almost daily and if I get a headache I'm straight to it as it fixes things pretty quickly.

    Married with 2 kids so its a bit of 'me' time, mostly in the toilet these days standing up. A bit messy lying down as I'm a full bush guy down there so one flush and it's gone lol.

    I also find the colour of my love juice changes if don't **** for a few days.

    On the whole 'its bad for you' bit strange, unlike smoking and other things you are not hurting anyone else.

    Work away lads, you never know when you may not be able too!
    Do you stick it inside your Mrs much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Likewise, almost daily and if I get a headache I'm straight to it as it fixes things pretty quickly.

    Married with 2 kids so its a bit of 'me' time, mostly in the toilet these days standing up. A bit messy lying down as I'm a full bush guy down there so one flush and it's gone lol.

    Work away lads, you never know when you may not be able too!

    Similar set up for me....

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,824 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Do you stick it inside your Mrs much?

    Curious, what relevance does your question have to the thread?
    And what beeswax is it of yours about the other posters love life with his partner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    Panthro wrote: »
    Curious, what relevance does your question have to the thread?
    And what beeswax is it of yours about the other posters love life with his partner?

    Thanks and yeah, am not going to go into specifics as it's not relevant, only to say I can't really complain in that department.

    Pre wife and kids so since I was a young lad I've always been a bit of a wanker lol....seriously though I've always tugged a fair bit. It's enjoyable, harmless to anyone else so why not? There are different ways to do it too so there's variety there too!

    Each to their own for not wanting too, personally I'm going to continue while I can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Each to their own for not wanting too, personally I'm going to continue while I can.
    Ya, isn't there a phrase something like "never waste an erection or a second glance"? You never know when it's gonna be the last one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Tig98 wrote: »
    Ya, isn't there a phrase something like "never waste an erection or a second glance"? You never know when it's gonna be the last one!

    ...per day ....


    :D

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Anyone else in the nofap 2021 club here? 😅


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Anyone else in the nofap 2021 club here? 😅

    More to life than suffering that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Anyone else in the nofap 2021 club here? ��

    :confused: :eek:

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Anyone else in the nofap 2021 club here? 😅
    After 24 hours I have a horn that could knock a wall so that's not much of an option for me.
    What enticed you to do that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Anyone else in the nofap 2021 club here? ��

    I have done and will continue to do it in the future. The benefits I felt were amazing, so much more energy, felt a lot more confident and sex was unbelievable. I would recommend it to anyone but understand it is not for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    canonball5 wrote: »
    I have done and will continue to do it in the future. The benefits I felt were amazing, so much more energy, felt a lot more confident and sex was unbelievable. I would recommend it to anyone but understand it is not for everyone.

    I do feel sex would be better with nofap. Your dick is conditioned to a different sort of stimulation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Tig98


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I do feel sex would be better with nofap. Your dick is conditioned to a different sort of stimulation

    Very true, especially if you're circumcised. I don't get much out of blowjobs if I **** that day/day before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭grassylawn


    If you feel foggy-brained or if it takes up too much time or focus then you might want to do it less, or maybe restrict yourself to after your day is done. Likewise if you find it detracts from sex you might want to do it less, or check if sex is on the cards in the near future before doing it.

    If you feel irritable or can't get to sleep, it can help with both.

    If you aren't having sex regularly then it's physically healthy to do it because regular ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer.

    I think it is a bad idea to abstain if you aren't having regular sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    grassylawn wrote: »
    If you feel foggy-brained or if it takes up too much time or focus then you might want to do it less, or maybe restrict yourself to after your day is done..

    or if its on your mind all day until you ejaculate?

    If going without for a couple/few days , it gets to a point where you just HAVE to cum. And then all is good again :)

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    grassylawn wrote: »
    If you feel foggy-brained or if it takes up too much time or focus then you might want to do it less, or maybe restrict yourself to after your day is done. Likewise if you find it detracts from sex you might want to do it less, or check if sex is on the cards in the near future before doing it.

    If you feel irritable or can't get to sleep, it can help with both.

    If you aren't having sex regularly then it's physically healthy to do it because regular ejaculation reduces the risk of prostate cancer.

    I think it is a bad idea to abstain if you aren't having regular sex.

    Funny you say that. I do find if I can’t sleep clearing the pipes can help. I’m not regularly sexually actively though


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    I try to just limit **** to at least one day. I try and do it on a Sunday cause I figure that's when the Lord is most busy with masses and isn't watching me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger


    canonball5 wrote: »
    I try to just limit **** to at least one day. I try and do it on a Sunday cause I figure that's when the Lord is most busy with masses and isn't watching me.

    No masses these days so you can be assured that he has seen what you're up to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    Passenger wrote: »
    No masses these days so you can be assured that he has seen what you're up to.

    I'm not going to lie, that's kinda hot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    canonball5 wrote: »
    I try to just limit **** to at least one day. I try and do it on a Sunday cause I figure that's when the Lord is most busy with masses and isn't watching me.

    How many times in that one day !!

    :D:D:D:D:D

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,811 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    canonball5 wrote: »
    I'm not going to lie, that's kinda hot.

    dee6f8764f0ab2f3a40b4020abec09e5.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger


    canonball5 wrote: »
    I'm not going to lie, that's kinda hot.

    The only thing that'll be hot is Satan's pitchfork when its prodding the cheeks off you for your sins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    Passenger wrote: »
    The only thing that'll be hot is Satan's pitchfork when its prodding the cheeks off you for your sins.

    When you haven't wanked in a week, even that sounds sexy.


  • Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭Physicskid9


    Yesterday I Went on a date with a beautiful girl whom i met a couple a days ago on grindr. I made up my mind and invited her on a date. I stayed up that day planning for the perfect date that I’ll enjoy. Ended up going to the beach at night. We held hands & hugged, I flirted with her the whole night. She ended up liking me and wanting to go on a second date. Bros I’ve never ever felt what i felt yesterday. Porn never gave me that feeling and it never will. After tasting a sample of the real deal I don’t want watch porn ever again. The feeling was better than a million hours of porn. It was really an amazing experience. Keep going guys and never give up no matter how harder it gets or how many times you hit rock bottom. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Believe in your self and you’ll get there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    Yesterday I Went on a date with a beautiful girl whom i met a couple a days ago on grindr. I made up my mind and invited her on a date. I stayed up that day planning for the perfect date that I’ll enjoy. Ended up going to the beach at night. We held hands & hugged, I flirted with her the whole night. She ended up liking me and wanting to go on a second date. Bros I’ve never ever felt what i felt yesterday. Porn never gave me that feeling and it never will. After tasting a sample of the real deal I don’t want watch porn ever again. The feeling was better than a million hours of porn. It was really an amazing experience. Keep going guys and never give up no matter how harder it gets or how many times you hit rock bottom. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Believe in your self and you’ll get there.

    BROOOOOOOOO.... you met "her" on grindr??? Dude, she isn't a chick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,676 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Yesterday I Went on a date with a beautiful girl whom i met a couple a days ago on grindr. I made up my mind and invited her on a date. I stayed up that day planning for the perfect date that I’ll enjoy. Ended up going to the beach at night. We held hands & hugged, I flirted with her the whole night. She ended up liking me and wanting to go on a second date. Bros I’ve never ever felt what i felt yesterday. Porn never gave me that feeling and it never will. After tasting a sample of the real deal I don’t want watch porn ever again. The feeling was better than a million hours of porn. It was really an amazing experience. Keep going guys and never give up no matter how harder it gets or how many times you hit rock bottom. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Believe in your self and you’ll get there.

    ??

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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  • Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭Physicskid9


    canonball5 wrote: »
    BROOOOOOOOO.... you met "her" on grindr??? Dude, she isn't a chick.

    Trans. A lot of trans persons use it as they face discrimination on traditional dating websites.


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