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Are we used to Dublin being a Kip?

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  • #252
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    seasidedub wrote: »
    I take back everything I said about Dublin being a kip.

    I've just been in Manchester for a work thing and can honestly say that I have never been in such an unadulterated kip. The centre is walkable and apart from a tiny area of literally just one or two "Ye olde" style Tudor looking taverns the place is awful. There is no european feel at all which Dublin does have a bit of. It's truly a gritty northern English city. I get that some people are into that, I'm not....

    I've never seen so many junkie zombies, old style winos and homeless begging. It's sad. 90% if the people walking around look like they could do with a good wash too.

    I'm rarely in England and this place has creeper me out.

    Haha, wait til you see Birmingham or Coventry or Sheffield or Leeds (or insert literally any major city in the UK other than london and edinburgh). It always makes me laugh seeing threads on here about Dublin being the ****test city in europe or whatever when our closest neighbour has numerous examples of major cities far worse than dublin, not that it surprises me that people of this opinion have barely travelled outside of the generic tourist trap cities of western europe but its just even funnier because the most dramatic examples undermining that belief are the ones closest to dublin


  • #253
    Bowlardo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    seasidedub wrote: »
    I take back everything I said about Dublin being a kip.

    I've just been in Manchester for a work thing and can honestly say that I have never been in such an unadulterated kip. The centre is walkable and apart from a tiny area of literally just one or two "Ye olde" style Tudor looking taverns the place is awful. There is no european feel at all which Dublin does have a bit of. It's truly a gritty northern English city. I get that some people are into that, I'm not....

    I've never seen so many junkie zombies, old style winos and homeless begging. It's sad. 90% if the people walking around look like they could do with a good wash too.

    I'm rarely in England and this place has creeper me out.
    wakka12 wrote: »
    Haha, wait til you see Birmingham or Coventry or Sheffield or Leeds (or insert literally any major city in the UK other than london and edinburgh). It always makes me laugh seeing threads on here about Dublin being the ****test city in europe or whatever when our closest neighbour has numerous examples of major cities far worse than dublin, not that it surprises me that people of this opinion have barely travelled outside of the generic tourist trap cities of western europe but its just even funnier because the most dramatic examples undermining that belief are the ones closest to dublin

    Yer setting the bar pretty low if you are comparing it to uk citys.


  • #254
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It always makes me laugh seeing threads on here about Dublin being the ****test city in europe or whatever when our closest neighbour has numerous examples of major cities far worse than dublin, not that it surprises me that people of this opinion have barely travelled outside of the generic tourist trap cities of western europe but its just even funnier because the most dramatic examples undermining that belief are the ones closest to dublin

    I think capital cities are mostly compared to other capital cities. Excluding Berlin they would be among richest cities in their countries. Anyway this might be true for British cities but in general historical towns/cities in Central, West (continent) and North Europe are well maintained.


  • #255
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Haha, wait til you see Birmingham or Coventry or Sheffield or Leeds (or insert literally any major city in the UK other than london and edinburgh). It always makes me laugh seeing threads on here about Dublin being the ****test city in europe or whatever when our closest neighbour has numerous examples of major cities far worse than dublin, not that it surprises me that people of this opinion have barely travelled outside of the generic tourist trap cities of western europe but its just even funnier because the most dramatic examples undermining that belief are the ones closest to dublin

    Bristol is the 3rd biggest city I think and it's a lovely place. I find villages and towns are way nicer over there than ours, there's more civic pride or something, better planning, nicer buildings.


  • #256
    seasidedub
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭seasidedub


    Well, as said, I take it back...

    Will go into town on Sunday and have my own personal love Dublin day


  • #257
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    seasidedub wrote: »
    I take back everything I said about Dublin being a kip.

    I've just been in Manchester for a work thing and can honestly say that I have never been in such an unadulterated kip. The centre is walkable and apart from a tiny area of literally just one or two "Ye olde" style Tudor looking taverns the place is awful. There is no european feel at all which Dublin does have a bit of. It's truly a gritty northern English city. I get that some people are into that, I'm not....

    I've never seen so many junkie zombies, old style winos and homeless begging. It's sad. 90% if the people walking around look like they could do with a good wash too.

    I'm rarely in England and this place has creeper me out.


    You ain't seen nothing if that has shocked you.

    I have been living over here for 10 years and my God I have had to suffer some unbelievable dives. In fact Manchester is nowhere near the worst and one of the best places I have been to.

    Check out some of the mid size towns- I honestly have no idea how people can live there. They are beyond grim.

    But then again there are towns in Ireland almost as grim.


  • #258
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    partyguinness wrote: »
    You ain't seen nothing if that has shocked you.

    I have been living over here for 10 years and my God I have had to suffer some unbelievable dives. In fact Manchester is nowhere near the worst and one of the best places I have been to.

    Check out some of the mid size towns- I honestly have no idea how people can live there. They are beyond grim.

    But then again there are towns in Ireland almost as grim.

    True, then on top of that there's their ridiculous conceptions of us either living in farmhouses with pigs in the front room, halting sites or back-to-back Belfast terraces with gunmen flitting through alley ways.

    Manchester though is a good city, just avoid Piccadilly Gardens and Portland St, places like Didsbury, Altrincham and Wilmslow just outside are very nice.


  • #259
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    dd973 wrote: »
    True, then on top of that there's their ridiculous conceptions of us either living in farmhouses with pigs in the front room, halting sites or back-to-back Belfast terraces with gunmen flitting through alley ways.

    Manchester though is a good city, just avoid Piccadilly Gardens and Portland St, places like Didsbury, Altrincham and Wilmslow just outside are very nice.


    There seems to be a general rule of thumb I have noticed over here- there is a direct correlation between the how grim a town/city is and its football team.

    The more hardcore the football supporters/club the bigger the ****hole. The lovely nice plush towns have **** football teams.


  • #260
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Awful lot of shootings going on. You need to get that sorted, you're not Detroit ok.


  • #261
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Fulham and Millwall good examples of that


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  • #262
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    partyguinness wrote: »
    The more hardcore the football supporters/club the bigger the ****hole. The lovely nice plush towns have **** football teams.
    That's because football is sport poorer people can play a lot and excell at it. You don't need much to play. You need rackets, clubs, pay for membership and so on in other sports. Even for basketball you need someone to buy a ring while you only need two stones to mark the goal. Rugby is a sport played in private schools.

    I don't like elitism around sports. Football is an awesome sport and there is a lot more competition and harder to get to the top.


  • #263
    partyguinness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    meeeeh wrote: »
    That's because football is sport poorer people can play a lot and excell at it. You don't need much to play. You need rackets, clubs, pay for membership and so on in other sports. Even for basketball you need someone to buy a ring while you only need two stones to mark the goal. Rugby is a sport played in private schools.

    I don't like elitism around sports. Football is an awesome sport and there is a lot more competition and harder to get to the top.


    Oh yeah I get that. Spare a thought for the dirt poor areas with a **** football team.


  • #264
    seasidedub
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭seasidedub


    Manchester though is a good city, just avoid Piccadilly Gardens and Portland St, places like Didsbury, Altrincham and Wilmslow just outside are very nice.

    Well my hotel was on Portland street as it was close to where the work thing was. So, close to Piccadilly gardens area. Awful. Like a congregation point for the lost souls of society. I did walk around and even the posh street with Harvey Nichols and all the expensive shops was not that posh.... I just didn't find it an attractive city.


  • #265
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    seasidedub wrote: »
    Manchester though is a good city, just avoid Piccadilly Gardens and Portland St, places like Didsbury, Altrincham and Wilmslow just outside are very nice.

    Well my hotel was on Portland street as it was close to where the work thing was. So, close to Piccadilly gardens area. Awful. Like a congregation point for the lost souls of society. I did walk around and even the posh street with Harvey Nichols and all the expensive shops was not that posh.... I just didn't find it an attractive city.

    I don't think it's meant to be aesthetically attractive really, being the seat of the industrial revolution where Marx and Engels rocked up, I like the people there and in Liverpool, very friendly compared to the common run of the English. The spirit of Mcr is found in the football and music.


  • #266
    Hal3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    North Dublin, the pride of the pale...


  • #267
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,930 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    seasidedub wrote: »
    I just didn't find it an attractive city.

    Same. Northern English cities in general are truly grim at the best of times.

    Not to say there are not some nice areas around them - there are. But they are not my cup of tea.

    The biggest difference between Dublin (for it's own problems) and, say, Manchester, Birmingham or Liverpool is that the latter are post industrial (Dublin has always been a commercial city) and they have had to deal with serious fallout and decay from that in the last 80 years.


  • #268
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,174 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    seasidedub wrote: »
    I take back everything I said about Dublin being a kip.

    I've just been in Manchester for a work thing and can honestly say that I have never been in such an unadulterated kip. The centre is walkable and apart from a tiny area of literally just one or two "Ye olde" style Tudor looking taverns the place is awful. There is no european feel at all which Dublin does have a bit of. It's truly a gritty northern English city. I get that some people are into that, I'm not....

    I've never seen so many junkie zombies, old style winos and homeless begging. It's sad. 90% if the people walking around look like they could do with a good wash too.

    I'm rarely in England and this place has creeper me out.

    that's interesting, a guy from work was over there for a match and said the homeless are standing around staring into space on a drug called spice
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1rPzDGja8


  • #269
    Nikki Sixx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    Dublin is certainly overpriced, as regards rent and buying a property.


  • #270
    seasidedub
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭seasidedub


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    that's interesting, a guy from work was over there for a match and said the homeless are standing around staring into space on a drug called spice
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1rPzDGja8

    Wow - that's exactly what it was like, people like the ones in the video. It was creepy and sad. There were loads of them. So what's spice? I thought It was a commodity from "Dune", silly me ......


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  • #271
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    I'm one of those people who likes to see a town or city go down the drain. Crime , violence and anti social behaviour. All are welcome sights ..
    Especially the ones that I don't have to live in


  • #272
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,174 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    seasidedub wrote: »
    Wow - that's exactly what it was like, people like the ones in the video. It was creepy and sad. There were loads of them. So what's spice? I thought It was a commodity from "Dune", silly me ......

    Synthetic drug that binds to the body exactly like cannabis but it's completely lethal


  • #273
    Nikki Sixx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    The guards don’t seem to have any handle on the gangland stuff in Dublin.


  • #274
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    SmartinMartin wrote: »
    Why didn't he fire a load of rockets at them, wiping out their families? Isn't that the usual reaction?

    Antisemitic comment.


  • #275
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    stefanovich wrote: »
    Antisemitic comment.

    Go away with that rubbish


  • #276
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Go away with that rubbish
    You think it is okay to classify all Israelis as murderers?


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  • #277
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    stefanovich wrote: »
    You think it is okay to classify all Israelis as murderers?

    That's not what he said though is it?
    Come on now. Don't be that guy


  • #278
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    That's not what he said though is it?
    Come on now. Don't be that guy
    What guy is that? Someone who stands up for the truth?

    Hamas are the aggressors. They always have been.

    What happens to a woman in Gaza if she gets raped?


  • #279
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    That's not what he said though is it?
    Come on now. Don't be that guy

    What he said was worse. Rockets. Wiping out families.

    Not murderer but genocidal murderer.


  • #280
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What guy is that? Someone who stand up for the truth?

    Hamas are the aggressors. They always have been.

    What happens to a woman in Gaza if she gets raped?

    Where did he classify "all Israelis as murderers"?
    That's what you accused him of.
    You are being that guy


  • #281
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Just back from Israel.

    Jerusalem - Jews and Muslims living and working in harmony in the markets etc.

    Tel Aviv - they don't really associate themselves with the "politics"..they're just interested in getting a tan, having a latte and working out in the beach. Basically Miami.

    Israel and Israeli people are NOTHING like the media is telling you.


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  • #282
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109710978


    Yes we are...


  • #283
    Hal3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/arsonists-lucky-not-destroy-south-16342014

    Yes we are and its getting worse by the day! Fine the parents when caught.


  • #284
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Around certain places in the city centre drug users hang around,
    they go to clinics .
    Theres no point in the gardai arresting them every day simply for using drugs they get from a clinic.
    i don,t know anyone under 15 who used any type of drug.
    We are in a boom, we have 1000,s of visitors every day.
    Maybe in other countrys drugs are very hard to get,
    i hear in israel there s very tough security on planes and at airport,s ,
    I think it,d be hard to bring an extra bottle of beer on a plane going to israel without being noticed .
    is it worse than london or manchestor .
    IS there some large city in europe that has no crime or anti social behavior .
    People littering is awful but i think its to do with the way you were brought up and your family backround .
    when houses prices were going down in 2008 people were complaining about negative equity .
    House prices tend to be high in large citys with a booming economy.
    this is not unique to dublin .
    I,D imagine theres less anti social behavior in israel because theres more cops and soldiers on the streets than there is in ireland.


  • #285
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,003 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    We just have to absolutely MOB the new (and existing) DCC councillors now to do something. Invite them for a walk around the blackspots maybe at different times of the day.

    It's all very well to spout about the homeless and object to building on derelict sites at the same time, as happened recently. We need them to get to work for us.

    I'm going to be driving them nuts soon.


  • #286
    Nikki Sixx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Nikki Sixx


    Limerick’s former reputation as being “stab city” was lapped up by the masses. In the last week or so Dublin has had more hits than Brian McFadden. Have the guards totally lost control of the city? Funny how Dublin gets no nasty nickname, just because of broadcasters living there.


  • #287
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Limerick’s former reputation as being “stab city” was lapped up by the masses. In the last week or so Dublin has had more hits than Brian McFadden. Have the guards totally lost control of the city? Funny how Dublin gets no nasty nickname, just because of broadcasters living there.

    Hmmm...The Thunderdome?


  • #288
    Greyfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Funny how Dublin gets no nasty nickname, just because of broadcasters living there.

    That's because most sensible people realise that Dublins good points vastly outweigh the bad points. The junkies can be ignored and overall Dublin is a very safe city to live in.


  • #289
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Limerick’s former reputation as being “stab city” was lapped up by the masses. In the last week or so Dublin has had more hits than Brian McFadden. Have the guards totally lost control of the city? Funny how Dublin gets no nasty nickname, just because of broadcasters living there.

    Because Dublin is a much larger city and everyone knows there are vast areas of the city with hardly any crime

    Anyway, no nasty nicknames? In any thread relating to Dublin youll see many posters say very negative things about the city


  • #290
    El_Bee
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    Greyfox wrote: »
    That's because most sensible people realise that Dublins good points vastly outweigh the bad points. The junkies can be ignored and overall Dublin is a very safe city to live in.


    Translation "the leafy well-policed suburb I live in is fine, the rest of you are just overreacting".


  • #291
    Greyfox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    El_Bee wrote: »
    Translation "the leafy well-policed suburb I live in is fine, the rest of you are just overreacting".

    To be honest if you use a bit of common sense Dublin city centre is very safe


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  • #292
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    Limerick’s former reputation as being “stab city” was lapped up by the masses. In the last week or so Dublin has had more hits than Brian McFadden. Have the guards totally lost control of the city? Funny how Dublin gets no nasty nickname, just because of broadcasters living there.

    I vote for 'Shoot City'.

    Its not funny or clever but it works.


  • #293
    janfebmar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    I vote for 'Shoot City'.

    Its not funny or clever but it works.

    Spike city, after the gritty drama shot in Dublin about 1979 / 1980. Also apt name for Dublin after the needle symbolizing drug taking in O' Connell st.


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