Nest Hello Doorbell Install

micks_address · 16-06-2018 8:46pm

OU812 wrote: »

Dis you guys use the existing old bell wire or do a rewire job?

Existing wire

OU812 · 16-06-2018 9:29pm

Think it'd be any better with a higher gauge wire?

micks_address · 16-06-2018 9:51pm

OU812 wrote: »

Think it'd be any better with a higher gauge wire?

Mine was heavy gauge already... Don't know gauges but stiff copper wire core

dingding · 17-06-2018 11:38am

OU812 wrote: »

Think it'd be any better with a higher gauge wire?

Probably not, it is the current that causes the voltage drop and issues with cable. As this is using a higher voltage transformer, the current should be lower and therefore the cable size should be fine.

The cable only powers the bell, so it should not have any impact.

Probably more important your wifi signal.

dingding · 17-06-2018 3:40pm

I was changing my wifi connection and I noticed there has been an update to the app. You can reconfigure the wifi network, without the previous procedure of disconnecting the camera, scanning the bar-code and resetting up the camera.

This is so much handier.

Note:- This only works for the Nest Hello, the other cameras need to scan the barcode

keithdub · 17-06-2018 5:27pm

RacoonQueen wrote:

I want to contact you to report a loose cover on a water meter in my estate but there doesn't seem to be any easy way to do this on your site without having to wait a week for you to get back to me. I don't have an account with you so I can't contact via an account and it's not outside my own home. Had a nasty fall caused by this yesterday and if it's left the next person could have serious injuries. Who do I contact to have this repaired?

Irish Water: Mairead wrote:

We will certainly follow up on this for you, if you can PM the following details:

Irish Water: Mairead wrote:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention and we are very sorry to hear you experienced this.

RacoonQueen wrote:

My feedback though, it might be worth adding a section to your website that allows people to contact on issues like this as I live in a rented apartment, I have no account with IW myself so hard to contact you for this via your website. Not everyone has twitter or a boards account. And something like this should obviously be repaired with priority.

It's an easy fix to wire the chime in but it will be beside your fuse board once it's out in the hall your laughing

keithdub · 17-06-2018 6:32pm

Most transformers for doorbell are from 8 to 24v dc. And if the op needs a chime you could get any electrician to wire on beside your fuse board that's an easy fix

teabot · 18-06-2018 7:43pm

I had no luck finding a chime at a suitable voltage in the UK so used a relay to trigger a different type of chime.

OU812 · 18-06-2018 10:11pm

Anyone know if amazon are planning to sell the hello or is their purchase of ring going to stop that? Have a business account with them & could pick it up sans VAT which would be nice.

They seem to have no problem selli gmorber ring product competitors made by nest

dingding · 18-06-2018 11:19pm

teabot wrote: »

I had no luck finding a chime at a suitable voltage in the UK so used a relay to trigger a different type of chime.

I used a lower voltage chime and it was fine. I set the bell to ring it for one second.

nxbyveromdwjpg · 19-06-2018 10:44pm

I waited for the UK version to avoid all this ****, but now I'm reading a thread on reddit that says its the same - transformer needed, etc. Is that right? Surely not?

nigwerwig · 19-06-2018 10:48pm

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

I waited for the UK version to avoid all this ****, but now I'm reading a thread on reddit that says its the same - transformer needed, etc. Is that right? Surely not?

Looks that way

micks_address · 19-06-2018 10:54pm

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

I waited for the UK version to avoid all this ****, but now I'm reading a thread on reddit that says its the same - transformer needed, etc. Is that right? Surely not?

Why did you think it be any different? US uses 120v we use 230v.. Why would the euro version work on lower voltage?

nxbyveromdwjpg · 19-06-2018 11:09pm

micks_address wrote: »

Why did you think it be any different? US uses 120v we use 230v.. Why would the euro version work on lower voltage?

Because it's the UK version, being sold to the UK/European market?

micks_address · 20-06-2018 9:38am

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

Because it's the UK version, being sold to the UK/European market?

It's a low voltage device.. Always going to need a transformer

nxbyveromdwjpg · 20-06-2018 2:17pm

micks_address wrote: »

It's a low voltage device.. Always going to need a transformer

There is nothing on Nest website or the box informing the customer that they need to purchase another 3rd party device to make it work (and this is the same market they are selling it into), what the device is, where to get it, etc etc. That's a problem, as is being highlighted by the numerous threads on Reddit and this extensive one, and one which will only grow now for Nest.

Cyrus · 20-06-2018 2:18pm

ring included a transformer with the ring pro, is this not the same no?

micks_address · 20-06-2018 2:20pm

Cyrus wrote: »

ring included a transformer with the ring pro, is this not the same no?

No nest don't supply the transformer

ted1 · 20-06-2018 2:36pm

micks_address wrote: »

Aleena Loose Banker wrote: »

I waited for the UK version to avoid all this ****, but now I'm reading a thread on reddit that says its the same - transformer needed, etc. Is that right? Surely not?

Why did you think it be any different? US uses 120v we use 230v.. Why would the euro version work on lower voltage?

They added the heat link for the Euro market.

THE ALM · 20-06-2018 3:15pm

I see it is available on the argos.ie website, more expensive alright but might be of interest if somebody wanted a local outlet to purchase from.

RunDMC · 20-06-2018 5:12pm

Before you can buy the Hello from the Nest website, you have to check a box that says you understand the compatibility requirements. Anyone with the knowledge to carry out a self-install would be able to understand those requirement. If you don't understand them, you should get professional help to carry out the install.

R

Moreilly · 21-06-2018 12:31pm

Installed it , no probs, changed the transformer to the 24v 10va one and all is working fine, quick question - i have familiar faces recorded and named in the nest app from the hello but the google homes are just saying 'somebody' is at the front door, any ideas?

micks_address · 21-06-2018 3:00pm

Moreilly wrote: »

Installed it , no probs, changed the transformer to the 24v 10va one and all is working fine, quick question - i have familiar faces recorded and named in the nest app from the hello but the google homes are just saying 'somebody' is at the front door, any ideas?

Give it some time.. Mine behaved a little odd first day.. Also what are your Google voice language set to..

micks_address · 21-06-2018 3:03pm

micks_address wrote: »

Give it some time.. Mine behaved a little odd first day.. Also what are your Google voice language set to..

Have you set on announcements

Moreilly · 22-06-2018 12:12am

micks_address wrote: »

Have you set on announcements

announcements turned on and tried both us and uk voice, push notification to my phone shows the correct name of the person, but google homes are still saying 'somebody' is at the front door, tried removing and re-linking nest, no change. is it working for ye?

micks_address · 22-06-2018 9:08am

Moreilly wrote: »

announcements turned on and tried both us and uk voice, push notification to my phone shows the correct name of the person, but google homes are still saying 'somebody' is at the front door, tried removing and re-linking nest, no change. is it working for ye?

Actually checked last night and it isn't. Definitely was at some point

vintagecosmos · 22-06-2018 9:57am

ordered then it was cancelled a few hours later. Waiting on support to get back to me. Anyone source a transformer here or all buying online from UK?

MentalMario · 22-06-2018 11:26pm

Any point in getting this if your front door faces onto the street?

Will there be too much noise for it to be any use?

Moreilly · 23-06-2018 9:27am

vintagecosmos wrote: »

ordered then it was cancelled a few hours later. Waiting on support to get back to me. Anyone source a transformer here or all buying online from UK?

i got 3 orders cancelled, triggered some fraud thing on my card, eventually used a different card and it got dispatched

Moreilly · 23-06-2018 9:28am

vintagecosmos wrote: »

ordered then it was cancelled a few hours later. Waiting on support to get back to me. Anyone source a transformer here or all buying online from UK?

https://www.tme.eu/en/details/pss10_230_24v/safety-transformers/breve-tufvassons/?brutto=1&currency=EUR&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxtPYBRD6ARIsAKs1XJ5-hK3yZLmKkDB2S_wABqfrBqm_VRG4tpeaBswfzuph-pVPlXofPFIaArfbEALw_wcB for the transformer, had it in about 3 or 3 days, very fast

dingding · 23-06-2018 7:04pm

MentalMario wrote: »

Any point in getting this if your front door faces onto the street?

Will there be too much noise for it to be any use?

You can tailor the alerts. You can pick an area of the picture that it monitors for alerts. You can also turn off sound / dog barking alerts etc....

You can also zoom and move the picture so that it is more suitable.

It should be OK.

Moreilly · 23-06-2018 8:25pm

Anybody got this to cast the to a chromecast? have tried and seems not to work for me...

dingding · 23-06-2018 9:48pm

I stream it to a chromecast using a google home mini.

Hey Google stream front door camera to "chromecast name"

You can specify the chromecast if you have more than one.

vintagecosmos · 24-06-2018 9:32am

Moreilly wrote: »

https://www.tme.eu/en/details/pss10_230_24v/safety-transformers/breve-tufvassons/?brutto=1&currency=EUR&gclid=Cj0KCQjwxtPYBRD6ARIsAKs1XJ5-hK3yZLmKkDB2S_wABqfrBqm_VRG4tpeaBswfzuph-pVPlXofPFIaArfbEALw_wcB for the transformer, had it in about 3 or 3 days, very fast

Thanks for that. Ordered it. also turns out MasterCard blocked my card so nest cancelled the order.

Moreilly · 24-06-2018 9:50am

vintagecosmos wrote: »

Thanks for that. Ordered it. also turns out MasterCard blocked my card so nest cancelled the order.

i have about a 40ft cable run and the nest is showing 23.2 volts with it, working fine, easily swapped out the 8v one

nigwerwig · 25-06-2018 9:31pm

So is there much point of this if you don't get the nest aware. What do you not get if you don't sign up? I really don't want another bill

micks_address · 25-06-2018 9:39pm

nigwerwig wrote: »

So is there much point of this if you don't get the nest aware. What do you not get if you don't sign up? I really don't want another bill

For convenience might be worth it. Without nest Aware not being able to see any history is a big loss.. I dont think it does face recognition without a subscription either

Moreilly · 25-06-2018 9:44pm

micks_address wrote: »

For convenience might be worth it. Without nest Aware not being able to see any history is a big loss.. I dont think it does face recognition without a subscription either

+1 really think it wouldn't be much use without nest aware, im going to go for the new €5 a month plan when the trial runs out, i think it covers 5 day history which is plenty

micks_address · 25-06-2018 9:58pm

Moreilly wrote: »

+1 really think it wouldn't be much use without nest aware, im going to go for the new €5 a month plan when the trial runs out, i think it covers 5 day history which is plenty

Yep 5 day is what I went for

garion · 26-06-2018 10:56am

Got mine installed last week and so far I'm really happy with it.

One question for those who have it already installed. I've turned off the sound notifications as I was getting hundreds a day, mostly at dawn when the birds started singing!

However, I now don't seem to be able to have a 2-way chat with someone at the door after a bell ring. I can talk to them but I can't hear their responses. Any way to enable the 2-way chat after a bell ring while also not having the microphone on constantly?

RunDMC · 26-06-2018 11:12am

In the settings page in the app, you can go to notifications and switch off "Sounds", then go to the "Microphone" section and switch on Microphone and Audio recording.

This will do what you want to do.

R

vintagecosmos · 26-06-2018 4:37pm

Moreilly wrote: »

i have about a 40ft cable run and the nest is showing 23.2 volts with it, working fine, easily swapped out the 8v one

Quick question. Transformer arrived today, would it do harm to install it now before the Nest?

Nevermind, probably best I get expert advice. Just discovered the fire alarms are wired up to the same unit.

Moreilly · 26-06-2018 6:43pm

vintagecosmos wrote: »

Quick question. Transformer arrived today, would it do harm to install it now before the Nest?

Nevermind, probably best I get expert advice. Just discovered the fire alarms are wired up to the same unit.

you will probably end up having to add the new transformer to your consumer unit rather than replace the existing one if your smoke alarms are wired into the existing one

slayerking · 27-06-2018 10:57am

Finally got around to installing yesterday. I have two chimes, so was worried I'd have issues as the doorbell only comes with one chime connector. I installed that on the first chime down stairs and all seems to work fine. The most annoying thing is trying to get the cover back on the chime with all the additional wires!
I had to also upgrade the bell transformer from 8v to 24v , used this one from Amazon from an earlier post and works without issues and fits exactly on the DIN rail as the previous one did.

Very happy with it overall, messing around with timelapse clips is fun.
Next to try some IFTTT integration

vintagecosmos · 29-06-2018 1:42pm

Just got mine installled. First impressions are good. It works well.

Am I right in saying no IFTT integration yet. Would be nice to have a light come on when the bell is pressed.

Also would be nice to be able to record your own responses. Like when it sees the junk mail chap, tell him "no thanks"

slayerking · 29-06-2018 1:48pm

vintagecosmos wrote: »

Just got mine installled. First impressions are good. It works well.

Am I right in saying no IFTT integration yet. Would be nice to have a light come on when the bell is pressed.

Also would be nice to be able to record your own responses. Like when it sees the junk mail chap, tell him "no thanks"

For IFTTT, it does have motion and sound triggers that work, but no bell push.
I created one that turns lights on when it detects motion, but its a bit too loose.
I use zones and would prefer to restrict it to specific zones + person detection otherwise its going off too much.

corvus4906 · 29-06-2018 1:48pm

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hello-smart-wi-fi-video-doorbell/6172796.p?skuId=6172796

After currency conversion and (Californian) sales tax, this works out at 187.37euro.... and comes with a free Google Home Mini which is worth about 50euro.

I just bought it and a colleague is bringing it back for me from the states. I'll sell the Google Home Mini for 40Euro... meaning I'll get the Doorbell fur just under 150 quid. Compared to 280 here it's a no-brainer if you can organise it.

Crazy the identical Nest Doorbell is 280Euro on it's own here in Ireland.

Zane97 · 30-06-2018 5:55pm

dingding wrote: »

Normally the transformer is fitted in the fuse board and it just clips out and the replacement clips in.

Your one is a bit different in that the transformer is included in the bell housing.

Also be careful as the brown wire on the bottom left may have an exposed live conductor. Hard to be clear from the picture.

It might be best to get it done professionally.

Electrician said he will fit a new one in fusboard instead of the current one in the door chime. I was talking to him on the phone about this.

It that a viable option before I buy one?

MentalMario · 02-07-2018 12:16pm

corvus4906 wrote: »

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nest-hello-smart-wi-fi-video-doorbell/6172796.p?skuId=6172796

After currency conversion and (Californian) sales tax, this works out at 187.37euro.... and comes with a free Google Home Mini which is worth about 50euro.

I just bought it and a colleague is bringing it back for me from the states. I'll sell the Google Home Mini for 40Euro... meaning I'll get the Doorbell fur just under 150 quid. Compared to 280 here it's a no-brainer if you can organise it.

Crazy the identical Nest Doorbell is 280Euro on it's own here in Ireland.

This is a 4th of July special offer I'd imagine in the US. The Nest Thermostat is also on offer over there. I'm right in saying that the thermostat over there is missing something to work here, right?

I'm hoping we'll see some offers this side of the pond from Google in the run up to Amazon Prime Day too.

I'm looking to pick up a doorbell and a thermostat. If there's no sign of an offer on the doorbell, I'm going to order in the US. Won't get it until later in the year though if I do as nobody is coming over until October.

Nedved85 · 02-07-2018 12:38pm

Is there any difference between the US version and the EU version?
Not a bad deal stateside.

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