The Hard Shoulder with Ivan Yates (interregnum)

Vorenus400 · 07-09-2017 4:33pm

Henry McKean going to be on the show later. The man has been wedged into every show over the last few months. How does he stay in newstalk and get paid. Surely a college/school intern could do his job

everlast75 · 07-09-2017 4:43pm

Ivan is a good heel, but he needs a straight guy/girl to play off of. Otherwise, it is quite tiresome hearing him try to be controversial when there is no one to contradict.

BettePorter · 07-09-2017 4:45pm

Ivan incredulous that you should wash your hands every time you use the bathroom ? Even men he asks ? The doctor is like .....eh ...yes! Oh I thought it was only if we used a cubicle.

Why on earth would he think that him having his lad in his hand would be perfectly fine in terms of hygiene?

Dirty fecker

everlast75 · 07-09-2017 4:59pm

BettePorter wrote: »

Ivan incredulous that you should wash your hands every time you use the bathroom ? Even men he asks ? The doctor is like .....eh ...yes! Oh I thought it was only if we used a cubicle.

Why on earth would he think that him having his lad in his hand would be perfectly fine in terms of hygiene?

Dirty fecker

He is definitely the (kinda) new George Hook. He said people from Cork "NEVER" wash their hands after going to the loo. 100% serious!

I remember my lunch nearly came up when I heard that

Del.Monte · 07-09-2017 7:57pm

BettePorter wrote: »

Ivan incredulous that you should wash your hands every time you use the bathroom ? Even men he asks ? The doctor is like .....eh ...yes! Oh I thought it was only if we used a cubicle.

Why on earth would he think that him having his lad in his hand would be perfectly fine in terms of hygiene?

Dirty fecker

Shure he was a farmer for years.

08-09-2017 3:45pm

BettePorter wrote: »

Ivan incredulous that you should wash your hands every time you use the bathroom ? Even men he asks ? The doctor is like .....eh ...yes! Oh I thought it was only if we used a cubicle.

Why on earth would he think that him having his lad in his hand would be perfectly fine in terms of hygiene?

Dirty fecker

Well, typical urine is sterile; not that I am advocating taking a wee on your fingers.

You're FAR more likely to transmit an infection by touching your saliva than having a small amount of urine on your fingers. I agree it's still pretty gross, though.

ThisRegard · 08-09-2017 6:48pm

The Friday evening review is just another So you think you're an adult.

Faugheen · 08-09-2017 8:38pm

Vorenus400 wrote: »

Henry McKean going to be on the show later. The man has been wedged into every show over the last few months. How does he stay in newstalk and get paid. Surely a college/school intern could do his job

This is the greatest load of nonsense I've ever read.

Whatever anyone thinks about Henry McKean, some of the reports he does involve extracting every bit of detail from random Joe Soaps on the streets.

Grab yourself a mic, find a topic, and go out and find people to talk about it. You'll find that you'll get about 20 people that will say no before anyone agrees to answer your questions. Not only that, that person could be the most boring in the world and give you one word answers.

So no, what Henry does actually involves a lot of time, patience and charm in order to get people to talk so openly.

And no, I'm not Henry, just find it hilarious that all the broadcasting experts in here think anybody could do what he does.

maynooth_rules · 08-09-2017 10:03pm

Liking the show but literally turn it off when Henry comes on. That twat needs to be shown the door very quickly.

Del.Monte · 08-09-2017 10:21pm

Do I take it from the small number of posts that the show has failed to set the world alight? I find it hard going and usually change the dial.

Chuchote · 08-09-2017 10:24pm

BettePorter wrote: »

Ivan incredulous that you should wash your hands every time you use the bathroom ? Even men he asks ? The doctor is like .....eh ...yes! Oh I thought it was only if we used a cubicle.

Why on earth would he think that him having his lad in his hand would be perfectly fine in terms of hygiene?

Dirty fecker

Oh.

My.

God.

One politician I won't shake hands with if he comes to the door canvassing.

Tell me how · 08-09-2017 10:27pm

Faugheen wrote:

So no, what Henry does actually involves a lot of time, patience and charm in order to get people to talk so openly.

maynooth_rules wrote:

Liking the show but literally turn it off when Henry comes on. That twat needs to be shown the door very quickly.

I'm with Faugheen on this. Think Henry provides a decent vox-pop element and I actually like his style, I think people relax with him.

PeterTheNinth · 08-09-2017 11:03pm

Faugheen wrote: »

And no, I'm not Henry, just find it hilarious that all the broadcasting experts in here think anybody could do what he does.

He's the poor man's Paddy O'Gorman. At least Paddy asks the questions with sincerity. Henry McKean asks every question with the same false enthusiasm no matter whether he is asking somebody if they were happy at winning the Lotto, or happy with having taken a p1ss.

Vorenus400 · 09-09-2017 2:11pm

Faugheen wrote: »

This is the greatest load of nonsense I've ever read.

Whatever anyone thinks about Henry McKean, some of the reports he does involve extracting every bit of detail from random Joe Soaps on the streets.

Grab yourself a mic, find a topic, and go out and find people to talk about it. You'll find that you'll get about 20 people that will say no before anyone agrees to answer your questions. Not only that, that person could be the most boring in the world and give you one word answers.

So no, what Henry does actually involves a lot of time, patience and charm in order to get people to talk so openly.

And no, I'm not Henry, just find it hilarious that all the broadcasting experts in here think anybody could do what he does.

If that is the greatest load of nonsense you have ever read then be prepared, I can better it. I once joked that Henry was D.O'B's lovechild and that was the only reason Henry had a job all these years.

Not joking now but I think he is terrible. He seems nice but off. Like Harry Enfield had a character in 80/90s called Tim nice but dim. Harmless but not really good for anything. He also gets shunted round the schedule and all the presenters treat him with kid gloves.

I didnt know we needed to be broadcasters/journalists here to criticise or endorse any show. I fail to make this criteria

Faugheen · 09-09-2017 3:58pm

Vorenus400 wrote: »

If that is the greatest load of nonsense you have ever read then be prepared, I can better it. I once joked that Henry was D.O'B's lovechild and that was the only reason Henry had a job all these years.

Not joking now but I think he is terrible. He seems nice but off. Like Harry Enfield had a character in 80/90s called Tim nice but dim. Harmless but not really good for anything. He also gets shunted round the schedule and all the presenters treat him with kid gloves.

I didnt know we needed to be broadcasters/journalists here to criticise or endorse any show. I fail to make this criteria

Like I said, whatever you may think of him, the suggestion that any student/intern could do his job is absolutely false.

I'm not his biggest fan by any stretch, but you will be hard pressed to find a reporter that can do a similar job.

Birneybau · 11-09-2017 6:19pm

Jaysus

BettePorter · 11-09-2017 6:25pm

I just got the best end of that ....but who was that that walked off studio and banged the door whilst discussing hook controversy? Awkward!

Birneybau · 11-09-2017 6:26pm

My jaysus was in regards to Mary Coughlan's change of mind whether to allow Ivan to interview her or not. She entered the studio, made a wee speech, and left.

kollegeknight · 11-09-2017 6:27pm

Birneybau wrote: »

My jaysus was in regards to Mary Coughlan's change of mind whether to allow Ivan to interview her or not. She entered the studio, made a wee speech, and left.

Made a wee speech.... after she announced her website for ticket sales.

Bunny Colvin · 11-09-2017 6:47pm

Ha heard that. Thought Ivan could have addressed it after she left rather than pretend it never happened but easier said than done when you're put on the spot like that!

scotchy · 11-09-2017 7:26pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Ha heard that. Thought Ivan could have addressed it after she left rather than pretend it never happened but easier said than done when you're put on the spot like that!

I thought he handled it very well.

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Conservative · 11-09-2017 7:28pm

Oh Jesus.

I switched off because I heard she was coming up. It will never be heard again!

She was on with PK recently. Newstalk have given this talentless person two prime time slots in the space of a couple of weeks and she repays them with that.

Obviously struggling to sell out the Droichead Arts Centre, Pavilion Theatre and other such major arenas nationwide.

She will trot out her past like it has some sort of relevance to what George said - it doesn't.

Thankfully she won't be getting another invite!

BettePorter · 11-09-2017 9:16pm

Can someone tell me why she was on and why did she abandon ship?

scotchy · 11-09-2017 9:17pm

BettePorter wrote: »

Can someone tell me why she was on and why did she abandon ship?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/he-should-be-fired-mary-coughlan-walks-out-of-live-newstalk-show-in-protest-at-hook-rape-comments-36121552.html

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Lady Chatterton · 11-09-2017 9:21pm

kollegeknight wrote: »

Made a wee speech.... after she announced her website for ticket sales.

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Ha heard that. Thought Ivan could have addressed it after she left rather than pretend it never happened but easier said than done when you're put on the spot like that!

I missed Mary this evening but I think it's sick that she plugged her own show. If she felt seriously about Hook's remarks she should have made her speech and made no reference to her commercial interests. Having said that I think it was unfair of her to protest on Ivan's show, it had nothing to do with him.

I remember when Ivan returned from his year's exile in Swansea, he said that George Hook helped to keep him sane with regular calls (& some visits, I think). He admitted that he had no contact with anyone else from Newstalk during that time but George had been a great friend. Ivan has his faults but unlike Chris, he didn't feel the need to kick his colleague and friend while he is down.

BarryD2 · 12-09-2017 9:25am

kollegeknight wrote: »

Made a wee speech.... after she announced her website for ticket sales.

That was cringeworthy stuff by Mary Coughlan. She started her interview off with a speel about Hook, Yates tried to turn it back to her promo. She carried on, I switched to Drivetime. It was just plain rude behaviour.

Night Falls · 12-09-2017 10:19am

I had the misfortune of listening to this on Friday. He's even more of a hackneyed one-trick pony than I remembered. Do people really find him entertaining or insightful? I just find him incredibly dull, it's nothing to do with being "pc" or whatever, it's just that "the wife does all the housework while i watch the sports" gags lose any vague element of humour they might have once had after the 1,000th re-telling.

There was a time that newstalk would be the only station I'd listen to, now the only things I'm guaranteed won't want me to put my foot through the radio is off the ball and moncrief.

maxwell smart · 12-09-2017 2:55pm

Can Mary Coughlan promise to walk of every show she appears on from now on please?

Beechwoodspark · 12-09-2017 5:10pm

Yates sounds distracted and rattled this evening. I'd say there must be some atmosphere in Newstalk at the moment.

quintana76 · 12-09-2017 5:15pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yates sounds distracted and rattled this evening. I'd say there must be some atmosphere in Newstalk at the moment.

If I were Ivan I would be worried. If Hook is forced out he will the next target.
The relentless ideological purification brigade has their beady eye on him.

Beechwoodspark · 12-09-2017 5:16pm

quintana76 wrote: »

If I were Ivan I would be worried. If Hook is forced out he will the next target.
The relentless ideological purification brigade has their beady eye on him.

Hadn't thought of that but it's true. Yates will def be "checking himself" before his casual remarks from now on.

Conservative · 12-09-2017 6:30pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

quintana76 wrote: »

If I were Ivan I would be worried. If Hook is forced out he will the next target.
The relentless ideological purification brigade has their beady eye on him.

Hadn't thought of that but it's true. Yates will def be "checking himself" before his casual remarks from now on.

He asked Jessica Kelly if she preferred the hand job or the electric version last week.

Imagine he said that today!

Itssoeasy · 12-09-2017 6:42pm

quintana76 wrote: »

If I were Ivan I would be worried. If Hook is forced out he will the next target.
The relentless ideological purification brigade has their beady eye on him.

Why ? Has Ivan misspoke about the topic ? I personally think that Ivan has a bit more cop on than George hook about getting himself in trouble. I mean Ivan was a government minister so he knows a thing or two about avoiding making a tit of himself.

Beechwoodspark · 12-09-2017 7:18pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Why ? Has Ivan misspoke about the topic ? I personally think that Ivan has a bit more cop on than George hook about getting himself in trouble. I mean Ivan was a government minister so he knows a thing or two about avoiding making a tit of himself.

He often made off the cuff remarks with sexual innuendo or very right wing type comments. Playing for laughs.

I'd say this episode with Hook will make him think twice from now on.

maynooth_rules · 12-09-2017 8:08pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

He often made off the cuff remarks with sexual innuendo or very right wing type comments. Playing for laughs.

I'd say this episode with Hook will make him think twice from now on.

Wonderful, we can look forward to the bland PC boredom noncense Radio like Chris and Sarah blurted out.

Ol' Donie · 12-09-2017 8:35pm

maynooth_rules wrote: »

Wonderful, we can look forward to the bland PC boredom noncense Radio like Chris and Sarah blurted out.

If that happens, then just come on boards for all the anti-PC twatishness you can eat.

Del.Monte · 12-09-2017 10:16pm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

If that happens, then just come on boards for all the anti-PC twatishness you can eat.

Explain please? The only comfort I have with all the pc bull**** is knowing that it will all come back to bite those who have attached themselves to this particular bandwagon - what goes around, comes around.

Night Falls · 13-09-2017 10:10am

Del.Monte wrote: »

Explain please? The only comfort I have with all the pc bull**** is knowing that it will all come back to bite those who have attached themselves to this particular bandwagon - what goes around, comes around.

What does that even mean? That those who say that women shouldn't hold some responsibility for being raped will face calls for the sack?

suicide_circus · 13-09-2017 11:20am

quintana76 wrote: »

If I were Ivan I would be worried. If Hook is forced out he will the next target.
The relentless ideological purification brigade has their beady eye on him.

Maybe Ivan can be sent to some kind of camp for reeducation?

mikep · 13-09-2017 12:15pm

I listened for the longest period yet yesterday and I think he will become fairly tedious on his own, but then when John Drennon was added is was unlistenable with the two boyos trying to outdo each other with conspiracy and pretending they know something that no one else does.

citykat · 13-09-2017 4:39pm

Jeesh. Yates having a liveline moment hanging the kids.

quintana76 · 13-09-2017 5:02pm

That Yeats is rated as a presenter says a lot about the competition.

He is OK. But there are massive deep holes in his field of knowledge.
He reflects what is said about a lot of academics, that they know a lot about very little.

The dirty old man stuff I can't stand. I believe he is encouraged in this by his producers.
What makes him stand out is his non membership of PC rabble.
For that reason alone I wish luck as a broadcaster.

Ol' Donie · 13-09-2017 6:21pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Explain please? The only comfort I have with all the pc bull**** is knowing that it will all come back to bite those who have attached themselves to this particular bandwagon - what goes around, comes around.

What I meant was Boards has lately become a sounding board for quite a few people for whom political correctness seems to be quite an offensive idea.

I'm not going to comment on it after this post because I've been dragged into several discussions with people who have no interest in listening to fairness or reason. (I'm definitely not saying that applies to you Del.monte, but these guys seem to be attracted to posts like this).

For an example of what I mean, have a look at how many people have descended on the George Hook thread screaming PC gone mad, having never been seen in the thread for the year or so it's been going.

Del.Monte · 13-09-2017 8:04pm

Understood but not having a pc bone in my body or thought in my head.

Reminds of a wedding I was at some years ago and the wife and I were seated at the reception with a Pakistani couple from London and we got talking about our kids - without thinking I proudly described my eldest (2) as the 'Great White Hope'. My wife wanted the floor to open and swallow her but I kept on digging...so you see where I'm coming from....:D

Lady Chatterton · 13-09-2017 8:46pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Understood but not having a pc bone in my body or thought in my head.

Reminds of a wedding I was at some years ago and the wife and I were seated at the reception with a Pakistani couple from London and we got talking about our kids - without thinking I proudly described my eldest (2) as the 'Great White Hope'. My wife wanted the floor to open and swallow her but I kept on digging...so you see where I'm coming from....:D

^^^ Oh Dear God

That reminds me of my first managerial position, I was only in my twenties and there was lady on my team who was in her early sixties. She used to talk to us like we were her young grandchildren, saying things like...'well aren't you a cheeky monkey?'. We never took any notice until one day someone pulled her up on it and pointed out that it may not be very appropriate after she said it to 'Albert' from Nigeria.

To say the woman was mortified was an understatement, she wasn't even as embarrassed on the day she walked through the office with part of her dress tucked into her knickers - true story

Elmo · 13-09-2017 8:51pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Understood but not having a pc bone in my body or thought in my head.

Reminds of a wedding I was at some years ago and the wife and I were seated at the reception with a Pakistani couple from London and we got talking about our kids - without thinking I proudly described my eldest (2) as the 'Great White Hope'. My wife wanted the floor to open and swallow her but I kept on digging...so you see where I'm coming from....:D

Who ever uses the phrase 'Great White Hope' poor wedding table that you were sitting at. I just think that's a stupid turn of phrase. Nothing do with PC. I would have turned to you and asked "Is he Irish?" if you'd said yes I'd have said "Well we can always dream".

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

That reminds me of my first managerial position, I was only in my twenties and there was lady on my team who was in her early sixties. She used to talk to us like we were her young grandchildren, saying things like...'well aren't you a cheeky monkey?'. We never took any notice until one day someone pulled her up on it and pointed out that it may not be very appropriate after she said it to 'Albert' from Nigeria.

Not the same Albert probably knew that she didn't mean it in a derogatory way and neither did anyone else.

Lady Chatterton · 13-09-2017 8:59pm

Elmo wrote: »

Not the same Albert probably knew that she didn't mean it in a derogatory way and neither did anyone else.

Exactly, none of us were offended, even Albert was laughing but when one person pulled her up on it she was very embarrassed and never said it again.

Edit: I'm on my iPad, I must have accidentally hit that emotion, I didn't mean to put it there and I can't seem to remove it.

Water John · 13-09-2017 9:09pm

I know he was putting a contrary view today, but he cam up with, 'the decision to have a child can be seen as a personal lifestyle choice'. Putting forward the concept that naturally followed, that all the subsequent costs, should be borne by the individual, not society.
How far to the right are we gone, to even consider such a statement. In the same thinking as Maggie when she said, 'there is no community, only individuals.'

Turned off my radio at that point.

dxhound2005 · 13-09-2017 10:41pm

Water John wrote: »

I know he was putting a contrary view today, but he cam up with, 'the decision to have a child can be seen as a personal lifestyle choice'. Putting forward the concept that naturally followed, that all the subsequent costs, should be borne by the individual, not society.
How far to the right are we gone, to even consider such a statement. In the same thinking as Maggie when she said, 'there is no community, only individuals.'

Turned off my radio at that point.

"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."

Del.Monte · 14-09-2017 2:18pm

Elmo wrote: »

Who ever uses the phrase 'Great White Hope' poor wedding table that you were sitting at. I just think that's a stupid turn of phrase. Nothing do with PC. I would have turned to you and asked "Is he Irish?" if you'd said yes I'd have said "Well we can always dream".

Not the same Albert probably knew that she didn't mean it in a derogatory way and neither did anyone else.

Do you have to work at being thick or does it come naturally?

The Hard Shoulder with Ivan Yates (interregnum)

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