Fake watch busters

Thirdfox · 30-05-2020 8:43am

For the above one at least you would probably tell when the power reserve doesn't go up to 8 days (manual wind I imagine it would take a few hundred turns to get power reserve up to there).

Complications have been a place where fakes have generally been unable to replicate fully (not that a 200+ mainspring barrel is regarded as a complication

) - I guess it should be "niche movement design" - they need to purchase their movements for 10-20 euro to sell a fake profitably for 200 - so no 8 day power reserves or perpetual calendars etc.

scwazrh · 30-05-2020 10:35am

That’s the type of tat CAB seize during their raids and then claim it’s a €10k luxury watch

30-05-2020 10:54am

Aitana Freezing Fibula wrote: »

Fake Panerai - these scare the **** out of me, I wouldnt know where to start to tell, although the movement looks a bit rough.

If the movement looks a bit rough it's probably a real Panerai

893bet · 30-05-2020 11:01am

Aitana Freezing Fibula wrote: »

Fake Panerai - these scare the **** out of me, I wouldnt know where to start to tell, although the movement looks a bit rough.

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Blue screws don’t look the right shade either.

Under a loupe I am sure it would look terrible. Problem is to be sure you almost need a real one in hand to compare. A lot of the macros in Watchfinder’s videos show the big brands are not with out their problems, omegas with poor print, Rolex with badly applies lume etc.

Cienciano · 30-05-2020 5:14pm

Panerai have some of the best reps out there.
Under €300 for an improved version of this : https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/303264-comparison-pam359-vsf-vs-gen

How much was the adverts guy looking for?

banie01 · 30-05-2020 5:57pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Panerai have some of the best reps out there.
Under €300 for an improved version of this : https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/panerai/303264-comparison-pam359-vsf-vs-gen

How my was the adverts guy looking for?

Poorer quality strap and other minor differences aside!
That's bloody terrifying!

Cienciano · 30-05-2020 6:14pm

banie01 wrote: »

Poorer quality strap and other minor differences aside!
That's bloody terrifying!

There's guys who specialise in leather straps for particular watches, if you wanted you could get one that looks identical

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 30-05-2020 6:50pm

Cienciano wrote: »

There's guys who specialise in leather straps for particular watches, if you wanted you could get one that looks identical

two more posts and your post count will be 12345. Otherwise I am not being baited.

893bet · 31-05-2020 2:54pm

Jesus Christ. What a ****ter.

What **** the sell is spouting.

Sadly he has me blocked.

Elegant? Hahahahaha nope

Sophisticated? Hahahaha nope

Grade A **** box

Cyrus · 31-05-2020 3:07pm

He expects people to believe his creed aftershave is genuine because he only sells genuine products

Thirdfox · 31-05-2020 3:50pm

Sad thing is that he has 82 (and 100% feedback)

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 31-05-2020 3:57pm

I will see if I can leave some feedback....adverts need to nuke these chancers. And no I dont want to know where better patek fakes can be found thank you.

--- edit job done ---

Cienciano · 31-05-2020 4:03pm

https://www.businessinsider.com/patek-philippe-25-million-wristwatch-2014-10?r=US&IR=T

Real one looks like shít too.

893bet · 31-05-2020 4:08pm

Lolled

Spocker · 31-05-2020 4:13pm

Aitana Freezing Fibula wrote: »

I will see if I can leave some feedback....adverts need to nuke these chancers. And no I dont want to know where better patek fakes can be found thank you.

--- edit job done ---

Feedback removed, just report the ad, we'll take care of it from there

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 31-05-2020 4:18pm

Spocker wrote: »

Feedback removed, just report the ad, we'll take care of it from there

I did report first, but what about the next buyer and the next fake item. What about this high likely hood the perfume he is selling is fake, and that adverts may have facilitated selling other fake goods. I applaud Adverts for have a 0% tolerance for fakes (if not it would just be the clown show that is donedeal) but you have to red card these scammers to make it a trustworthy platform for the genuine sellers.

This guys problem here was that he priced it too low. If he came on here with a "good" fake Submariner and fake box and papers priced at €6500 he could get away Scott free with his good feedback and selling history, and nothing there to warn a future buyer. He will delete the picture and details off that add as son as its sold or withdrawn.

Its your area to police but as a long time and trusted buyer and seller on adverts I would appreciate you consider these points.

893bet · 31-05-2020 4:59pm

Why are all comments deleted from adds after a set period?

History of a seller is lost a lot by this action.

Cienciano · 31-05-2020 5:16pm

Aitana Freezing Fibula wrote: »

This guys problem here was that he priced it too low. I

Yeah, this is a €2.5m watch for sale at €200. If he priced it at a more believable €1.8m he would have got away with it

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 31-05-2020 5:23pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Yeah, this is a €2.5m watch for sale at €200. If he priced it at a more believable €1.8m he would have got away with it

Brilliant one there, you left the "I" in "if" in the quote after deleting the sentence afterwards :cool:

You should PM that fellow ask him where he get his stuff, sound like you guys would get along great.

893bet · 31-05-2020 5:23pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Yeah, this is a €2.5m watch for sale at €200. If he priced it at a more believable €1.8m he would have got away with it

You can’t just take a sentence out of context like that. When it was qualified with the next point regarding a submariner at 6.5k from a seller with good feedback is dangerous.

Cienciano · 31-05-2020 5:53pm

Joking aside, I think the best thing to do is report the ad and let the adverts mods deal with it. They have enough to deal with and their own sets of rules. They don't need us lecturing them on what they should or shouldn't be doing.

But fair play to 893bet for screenshotting that one, possibly the worst (or best) yet.

banie01 · 03-06-2020 4:30pm

Was browsing Reddit earlier and stumbled onto r/Chinatime

The sheer breadth of fakery at the "low" end of the scale is breathtaking in its scope.

One lad was showing of his fake Seiko, I knew from a chat on her around December that Casio were being faked too but the amount of tat looky likes that people are buying is bloody mental.

Grand Seiko fakes, Casio's, they have a thread requesting fake FP Journé...
And it's likely going to happen!

It was dodgy enough with "high quality" but now they are faking everything.
There has to be some point where risk/reward/margin cross to make $15 fakes profitable.

Just as an example, and because I'm the 1st to moan about no pics :P

david · 03-06-2020 4:40pm

banie01 wrote: »

Was browsing Reddit earlier and stumbled onto r/Chinatime

The sheer breadth of fakery at the "low" end of the scale is breathtaking in its scope.

One lad was showing of his fake Seiko, I knew from a chat on her around December that Casio were being faked too but the amount of tat looky likes that people are buying is bloody mental.

Grand Seiko fakes, Casio's, they have a thread requesting fake FP Journé...
And it's likely going to happen!

It was dodgy enough with "high quality" but now they are faking everything.
There has to be some point where risk/reward/margin cross to make $15 fakes profitable.

Just as an example, and because I'm the 1st to moan about no pics :P

That's a decent copy. From a counterfeiter's perspective it makes a lot more sense to knock out entry level knock offs, less scrutiny, less discerning buyers more willing to buy online unseen. The indices, lume pip and font on date wheel are wrong. The chapter wheel and bezel ring are too straight for a Seiko

banie01 · 03-06-2020 4:43pm

david wrote: »

That's a decent copy. From a counterfeiter's perspective it makes a lot more sense to knock out entry level knock offs, less scrutiny, less discerning buyers more willing to buy online unseen. The indices, lume pip and font on date wheel are wrong. The chapter wheel and bezel ring are too straight for a Seiko

I'll be the 1st to admit, I know absolutely nothing about Seiko divers but with them climbing in popularity and price!

It's another watch on my check very carefully list.

Cienciano · 03-06-2020 6:32pm

banie01 wrote: »

Was browsing Reddit earlier and stumbled onto r/Chinatime

The sheer breadth of fakery at the "low" end of the scale is breathtaking in its scope.

One lad was showing of his fake Seiko, I knew from a chat on her around December that Casio were being faked too but the amount of tat looky likes that people are buying is bloody mental.

Grand Seiko fakes, Casio's, they have a thread requesting fake FP Journé...
And it's likely going to happen!

It was dodgy enough with "high quality" but now they are faking everything.
There has to be some point where risk/reward/margin cross to make $15 fakes profitable.

Just as an example, and because I'm the 1st to moan about no pics :P

chinatime is where you'll see the €7 nomos! Most of the cheaper (under 100 euro) reps are terrible although I've never seen a rep Seiko. I'd almost get one just to see what it's like.
Grand seikos are available, but extremely uncommon in the rep world as they're bought for the amazing craftmanship where the rolex is bought for the brand name. You'll see subs everywhere, probably makes up half the rep world.

The beauty of chinatime is people know they're shít but don't mind. People wearing €13 iced out royal oaks :pac:

Roycropper63 · 03-06-2020 7:35pm

Was it not the movement on that Seiko wrong too. How was the date wheel wrong?
Thanks

david · 03-06-2020 7:42pm

Roycropper63 wrote: »

Was it not the movement on that Seiko wrong too. How was the date wheel wrong?
Thanks

Possibly - I've no idea what movement is in that. Seiko movements are cheap, it isn't beyond belief that they could include a legit 4R36.

The font is way different on a genuine Seiko date wheel, the 6 is the giveaway - compare to this:

Cienciano · 03-06-2020 7:51pm

david wrote: »

Possibly - I've no idea what movement is in that. Seiko movements are cheap, it isn't beyond belief that they could include a legit 4R36.

The font is way different on a genuine Seiko date wheel, the 6 is the giveaway - compare to this:

Datewheel font is probably the most common fault among reps, no surprise there

Roycropper63 · 03-06-2020 8:01pm

Can't make out the difference in the date.old eyes are not the best. Your link has a 4r36 which it should be. First one has an nh3 something or other!

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 04-06-2020 6:35pm

Got to be a fugazi

https://www.adverts.ie/casual/rolex-watch-booklets-box/20546301

scwazrh · 04-06-2020 7:35pm

Very easy to get caught out with that if it was a realistic price . Hang tags and everything there , dangerous

Cyrus · 04-06-2020 7:41pm

Look at the paper work and warranty cards my 6 year old could produce better !

banie01 · 04-06-2020 7:54pm

Aitana Freezing Fibula wrote: »

Got to be a fugazi

How much was it up for?

hitemfrank · 04-06-2020 7:57pm

€380

banie01 · 04-06-2020 7:58pm

hitemfrank wrote: »

€380

Thanks Frank, Ad was nuked by the time I clicked it.
Didn't know if someone was trying to pass off a fake at a genuine's price

Spocker · 12-06-2020 7:53pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Fake TAG Heuer link here

https://www.adverts.ie/20605013

Seller said it’s worth €5600 but he only wants €1500 which is fair nice of him
The model number he’s given is for a TAG Heuer 2000 exclusive
The writing on the dial is all wrong, it’s making my head hurt looking at it

The model number of the watch it’s meant to be is CT115A

https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Tag%20Heuer/Link/CT511A.BA0564/1023/item/161138

Nuked it now, thanks for the heads up

david · 15-06-2020 6:10pm

https://www.adverts.ie/casual/watch/20672655

Spocker · 15-06-2020 6:12pm

david wrote: »

https://www.adverts.ie/casual/watch/20672655

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FlicFlak · 20-06-2020 2:08am

https://touch.adverts.ie/dress/rolix-oyster-perpetual-date-sumarn-1000th-300e-offically-certified-swiss-made-watch/20716017

Everything about this is dodgy!!

893bet · 20-06-2020 7:57am

It’s a ****ter

hitemfrank · 20-06-2020 8:07am

And it's gone.

893bet · 20-06-2020 8:29am

Prob should have been in the for sale thread. Couple of lads here would like to add that to their “collection”.

Homer · 20-06-2020 8:50am

hitemfrank wrote: »

And it's gone.

Yep I was up and vigilant early this morning. Nuked a couple of others too including one user selling a couple of Hublots (what else) with no boxes or paperwork, didn’t even work, but swore they were genuine and wanted €10k

Irish_peppa · 20-06-2020 9:01am

I noticed on this Irish rap video:o at the start at 0.12 they make a point of showing a watch close up which i thought was a bit odd. I assume its as the youngsters say "Flexing":P:rolleyes: . So im assuming its some sort of expensive watch but is it fake? I saw before fake watches normally the second hand normally seamlessly glides yet this one doesnt, Is it a fake that this lads passing off as legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCmrVR0cMk0

Homer · 20-06-2020 9:03am

Irish_peppa wrote: »

I noticed on this Irish rap video:o at the start at 0.12 they make a point of showing a watch close up which i thought was a bit odd. I assume its as the youngsters say "Flexing":P:rolleyes: . So im assuming its some sort of expensive watch but is it fake? I saw before fake watches normally the second hand normally seamlessly glides yet this one doesnt, Is it a fake that this lads passing off as legit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCmrVR0cMk0

Jesus my ears :eek:

Thirdfox · 20-06-2020 9:24am

Homer wrote: »

Jesus my ears :eek:

...I...like the video

- hey it's a good use of their time - being productive (making music, working on choreography, lyrics etc.) vs what they could be doing...

My cup of tea would be lo-fi/classical/brainless pop but even for rap - it's not as jarring as some of the ones I've heard - Dublin...it's where it all started (apparently

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Rodney Bathgate · 20-06-2020 9:27am

Homer wrote: »

Jesus my ears :eek:

They should be deported for noise pollution.

Irish_peppa · 20-06-2020 9:30am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

They should be deported for noise pollution.

Its been stuck in my head days, the video is cringey and lyrics cringier :P so anyone any thoughts on the time piece or impossible to say?

Thirdfox · 20-06-2020 10:01am

Had another look and presumably it's a fake audimar piguet royal oak limited edition perpetual calendar with moonphase.

893bet · 20-06-2020 10:28am

Thirdfox wrote: »

...I...like the video - hey it's a good use of their time - being productive (making music, working on choreography, lyrics etc.) vs what they could be doing...

Agree mostly. I don’t like how the video glamourises the “lifestyle”.

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