TNG runthrough

Evade · 17-10-2018 2:18am

I wish we'd gotten more Jellico. The uniform looks better on Troi than any of the casual clothes she's worn previously.

odyssey06 · 17-10-2018 8:25am

bluewolf wrote: »

Oh my god Gul Madred is Jon Irenicus!!! I'd know that voice anywhere!!!

Good info here on Warner's various Trek roles over the years including Gul Madred:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/David_Warner

17-10-2018 8:26am

Evade wrote: »

I wish we'd gotten more Jellico. The uniform looks better on Troi than any of the casual clothes she's worn previously.

Definitely, i think she wanted one and suddenly was able to explain technical concepts when she got a uniform

Oh here
link

17-10-2018 8:28am

odyssey06 wrote: »

Good info here on Warner's various Trek roles over the years including Gul Madred:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/David_Warner

I can't believe he was reading cue cards. Fabulous actor in that

Evade · 17-10-2018 12:15pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Definitely, i think she wanted one and suddenly was able to explain technical concepts when she got a uniform

Oh here
https://web.archive.org/web/20121113174100/http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/st/interviews/sirtis/page26.shtml

And then she crashed the Enterprise-D.

17-10-2018 11:02pm

Evade wrote: »

And then she crashed the Enterprise-D.

don't remember that!

she is off wrecking the gaff as a Romulan today

Evade · 17-10-2018 11:08pm

bluewolf wrote: »

don't remember that!

she is off wrecking the gaff as a Romulan today

Generations.

13-11-2018 7:31pm

It's been a while - nearly forgot where I left off!
picard is falling in love with a stellar cartographer today, and my Alexa is arguing with the tv again :pac:

odyssey06 · 13-11-2018 8:00pm

bluewolf wrote: »

It's been a while - nearly forgot where I left off!
picard is falling in love with a stellar cartographer today, and my Alexa is arguing with the tv again :pac:

Ah yes the captivating Nella Darren, played by talented Australian actress Wendy Hughes in one of her brief forays to the US:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Wendy_Hughes

You can tell she was a quality Australian actress by the fact that Neighbours & Home and Away are absent from her CV

AMKC · 13-11-2018 10:13pm

Evade wrote: »

And then she crashed the Enterprise-D.

I don't think that was Deanna's fault. There was not much she could do once it had been hit by the explosion from the other half and then caught in the planets atmosphere.

Evade · 13-11-2018 11:24pm

AMKC wrote: »

I don't think that was Deanna's fault. There was not much she could do once it had been hit by the explosion from the other half and then caught in the planets atmosphere.

True, anyone at the helm would have crashed, I'm just poking fun at Sirtis wanting Troi to be seen as more competent and then her ending up being at the helm when the Enterprise D crashed.

14-11-2018 9:04pm

Picard goes on an archaeology chase, data shows a klingon who's boss.

Interesting that the cardassian lady is wearing lipstick and has mad long hair. Dont remember seeing that before

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861771/?ref_=tt_cl_t11
another fab actress

is the ancient alien the Founder actress???
haha it is her. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0421300/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t8
Maybe she is a Founder in this as well :eek: :eek: FOUNDERS CREATED US ALL

Evade · 14-11-2018 9:19pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Interesting that the cardassian lady is wearing lipstick and has mad long hair. Dont remember seeing that before

Most of the Cardassian women wear lipstick from what I remember but usually more earthy or green colours than Gul Ocett's but none of those were in the military either.

A few examples
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Gilora_Rejal
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Natima_Lang
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Korinas

14-11-2018 11:29pm

Ah yeah i was thinking the mad red colour was unusual specifically

Hate these mind-bendy episodes just because they freak me out - riker was kidnapped and mentally imprisoned for info. reminds me of o'briens one though at least riker wasn't stuck for 20 years

'jean-luc, there may have been a murder'
'wow, pity we don't have security cams, because you're not allowed to do an autopsy'

16-11-2018 10:00pm

Worf sleeps in and riker calls a security team to his quarters straight away
But kahless has just shown up so i guess it was a good day to sleep in!

17-11-2018 10:49am

Riker has a duplicate now. I wonder if this is going to turn out to be evil riker from ds9 since i don't remember the origin at all

Evade · 17-11-2018 11:49am

bluewolf wrote: »

Riker has a duplicate now. I wonder if this is going to turn out to be evil riker from ds9 since i don't remember the origin at all

I wouldn't call him evil but that's him.

17-11-2018 11:55am

He's a twin and we know riker is good so he's the evil twin in my head

Yeah they revealed it at the end of the ep. That he is thomas

I have to say, the romulan temporal mystery epsiode was very good indeed

Evade · 17-11-2018 12:09pm

bluewolf wrote: »

He's a twin and we know riker is good so he's the evil twin in my head

Yeah they revealed it at the end of the ep.

I have to say, the romulan temporal mystery epsiode was very good indeed

I like that one too, it even brings up continuity asking Troi about Romulan Warbirds. It also has the only appearance of the main cabin of the runabouts.

Inviere · 17-11-2018 1:48pm

bluewolf wrote: »

He's a twin and we know riker is good so he's the evil twin in my head

Yeah they revealed it at the end of the ep. That he is thomas

I have to say, the romulan temporal mystery epsiode was very good indeed

I’m guaranteed to laugh out loud at Data’s face when he reacts to Picard talking slow in jest at some professor. Cracks me up every single time.

Evade · 17-11-2018 4:33pm

Inviere wrote: »

I’m guaranteed to laugh out loud at Data’s face when he reacts to Picard talking slow in jest at some professor. Cracks me up every single time.

Troi's impression of the professor interested in interspecies mating is good too.

Goodshape · 19-11-2018 11:45am

That's the time-freeze episode? Great one alright.

Daith · 19-11-2018 4:46pm

Goodshape wrote: »

That's the time-freeze episode? Great one alright.

The ep where Troi explains the workings of Romulan ship to Data and Geordi. Marina Sirtis thinks that scene is hilarious.

21-11-2018 3:40pm

Data goes psycho and joins lore and the borg.
I thought lore was dead

Evade · 21-11-2018 5:58pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Data goes psycho and joins lore and the borg.
I thought lore was dead

That's exactly what he wanted you to think.

23-11-2018 7:31pm

Data has bad dreams and geordi finds out what it's like to have someone with a crush on you following you around the place.
Maybe she'll make a holodeck copy of him

But wait! Maybe this is all a dream

No, there really are magic invisible space monsters trying to kill us. Haha

23-11-2018 10:40pm

Warp ia breaking space! Everyone is restricted to Warp 5 forever or it'll break a planet too.
I wonder if this is a climate change episode

Next up: Star Trek: The Core
Let's shoot it to get it working again

DoctorEdgeWild · 23-11-2018 10:43pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Warp ia breaking space! Everyone is restricted to Warp 5 forever or it'll break a planet too.
I wonder if this is a climate change episode

Thinking back, this really is a climate change episode. I wonder what Picard and Co would think of the protestors we have over here daily in London at the moment.

This episode felt like it could have been a big lead in to a much larger storyline (a la Babylon 5) but they just moved along scarcely mentioning it again.

23-11-2018 10:49pm

Yeah "i wonder why I was so resistant to listening" and "it's ok captain we still have time to make it ok somehow".
I was thinking i never heard much about it again all right!
Imagine them voyager lads calcing their journey time at warp 5 lol

Evade · 24-11-2018 2:02am

DoctorEdgeWild wrote: »

Thinking back, this really is a climate change episode. I wonder what Picard and Co would think of the protestors we have over here daily in London at the moment.

This episode felt like it could have been a big lead in to a much larger storyline (a la Babylon 5) but they just moved along scarcely mentioning it again.

There was a plan to have the movable nacelles on Voyager be the Federation's answer to this problem which would have been fine except the USS Intrepid is mentioned in this episode so it had most likely already been invented.

AMKC · 24-11-2018 2:09am

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah "i wonder why I was so resistant to listening" and "it's ok captain we still have time to make it ok somehow".
I was thinking i never heard much about it again all right!
Imagine them voyager lads calcing their journey time at warp 5 lol

At warp 5 it would have taking Voyager the best part of a century or two to get home so it would become a multi generational ship. Each warp factor increases the speed of travel by a factor of 10 I think.

pixelburp · 24-11-2018 11:43am

The "warp speed disintegrates space" was and still is a great concept that could be stretched out into an arc, it's a shame no one ever grasped it. Would have made a change from the ubiquitous war plots.

Evade · 24-11-2018 12:21pm

pixelburp wrote: »

The "warp speed disintegrates space" was and still is a great concept that could be stretched out into an arc, it's a shame no one ever grasped it. Would have made a change from the ubiquitous war plots.

I could see it turning into a war anyway. Not everyone would want to give up warp drive and those that did would be easy targets. The soliton wave system could pick up some slack but that's a bit like relying on public transport to replace your car. There's also the moral question that the Federation has access to a way to prevent warp travel entirely, they could Omega particle explosion everywhere in the galaxy.

AMKC · 24-11-2018 12:38pm

Evade wrote: »

I could see it turning into a war anyway. Not everyone would want to give up warp drive and those that did would be easy targets. The soliton wave system could pick up some slack but that's a bit like relying on public transport to replace your car. There's also the moral question that the Federation has access to a way to prevent warp travel entirely, they could Omega particle explosion everywhere in the galaxy.

No one was saying they had to give up warp drive do just go slower. So there max would have to be warp 5 at least until they found a solution which starfleet did with the warp nacelles on the Intrepid class and other ship's after it like the Sovereign class.
I do think the Klingons and the Romulans might not have been too happy about it.

Inviere · 24-11-2018 4:32pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Imagine them voyager lads calcing their journey time at warp 5 lol

Wasn't Voyager's warp system not designed though to not be harmful, hence the tilted nacelles?

24-11-2018 4:34pm

Inviere wrote: »

Wasn't Voyager's warp system not designed though to not be harmful, hence the tilted nacelles?

Honestly don't remember - didn't remember anything about the nacelles.
It's been longer since i've seen it than tng!

Evade · 24-11-2018 4:55pm

AMKC wrote: »

No one was saying they had to give up warp drive do just go slower. So there max would have to be warp 5 at least until they found a solution which starfleet did with the warp nacelles on the Intrepid class and other ship's after it like the Sovereign class.
I do think the Klingons and the Romulans might not have been too happy about it.

I haven't seen the episode in a while but I'm pretty sure the scientist that killed herself said that. Traveling at warp 5 still did damage just not as much.

I love how Starfleet are so good at engineering they had already implemented a solution to a problem almost no one foresaw.

AMKC · 25-11-2018 3:18pm

Inviere wrote: »

Wasn't Voyager's warp system not designed though to not be harmful, hence the tilted nacelles?

Yes they were. Think they are called variable geometry nacelles or some fancy name like that.

25-11-2018 6:36pm

"not only does she age in appearance like data..."
Oh crafty sneaking that in there.

Juliana showed up. Couldn't remember why i was suspicious of her!

Tell her she's on android. God. What is troi on about "you're robbing her". Come on deanna you know better than that

Evade · 25-11-2018 7:55pm

bluewolf wrote: »

"not only does she age in appearance like data..."
Oh crafty sneaking that in there.

If Data was ever to return I wouldn't mind if they dropped the makeup altogether for the benefit of the actor and write it off as a fashion thing like his streak of grey in All Good Things.

bluewolf wrote: »

Tell her she's on android. God. What is troi on about "you're robbing her". Come on deanna you know better than that

Didn't the Soong hologram say she'd shut down if she ever found out she was an android?

26-11-2018 3:27pm

Evade wrote: »

If Data was ever to return I wouldn't mind if they dropped the makeup altogether for the benefit of the actor and write it off as a fashion thing like his streak of grey in All Good Things.

Didn't the Soong hologram say she'd shut down if she ever found out she was an android?

I thought so as well but then i thought i must have misheard because then there surely wouldn't be a debate?
If it was literally 'well it's lie to her or she dies' then i probs would be more on the 'lie to her' camp all right.

The makeup is mad sparkly on a 4k tv! we were amazed at it.
Plus since there's precedent of a totally human looking android now he could totally have an upgrade.

Captain Picard just got authorisation to exceed warp speed limits for some assignment he just got, so there is some continuity there now. On captain Picard day

Inviere · 26-11-2018 4:33pm

bluewolf wrote: »

On captain Picard day

He's eh, he's a role model

27-11-2018 9:01am

I watched a below decks type of episode next last night, with the ensigns. It was really good up until they sent ensign sato or whatever her name was, the bajoran one, on a stupid mission. They can genetically modify everyone else for away missions and they sent ensign baby face off??
Also lol at geordi taking a break from poker to do some work and take an ensign along with

pixelburp · 27-11-2018 10:51am

The genetic surgery thing always bugged me; like the teleporters I get the practical reason why they did it for the sake of the plot, but just felt like something has would have a huge cultural ripple effect that never went explored or acknowledged. After all, if you could look like any race, why stick with the one you're born with?

27-11-2018 12:05pm

I never thought of that. I wonder if it required 20 levels of clearance and was otherwise generally forbidden or unavailable. The cardassians did it easily enough in ds9 with convincing whatsherface she was really cardassian.
Though it's usually cosmetic only anyway isn't it

pixelburp · 27-11-2018 12:28pm

Well if you believe Discovery, it was possible to surgically alter ones organs into the preferred species too. As you suggest, I suspect it's something like cloaking, that everyone agreed not to use - and obviously it was just a (lazy?) crutch for writers to allow Riker to stomp about Mah'Guffen IV without problem.

Just feels like another one of those little cultural elements of Trek that went / goes unexplored that leaves me wanting more: assuming it was legal, why wouldn't folks alter themselves to match their preferred body image? Even as a cosmetic or fashion choice.

It'd be an intriguing point of friction & drama for a race to suddenly find Federation civilians looking just like them. Fake Klingons walking around wearing head-ridges for the aesthetics of it. Brings up the issue of cultural appropriation for extra 'topicality' points.

TheIrishGrover · 27-11-2018 12:38pm

I'm only waiting for Discovery to introduce a..... well a.... species-fluid species. "Are you identifying me as Klingon? That's offensive. I'm whatever I want to be. TODAY I identify as Klingon but don't assume I'm Klingon just because I look Klingon, sound Klingon, speak Klingon, smell Klingon, adopt Klingon mannerisms and customs"

Actually, that would be interesting: Have a character that looks like some hot Human/Vulcan or whatever. As soon as they get pregnant or if their species goes into heat - they get all horny and stuff, and then they turn into a huge big ugly blob monster which is sexy as hell to their species but, y'know...... Have the other interested party then deal with their own acceptance/opinions........ Think of all the easy cosplay at comic-cons. lol

But, yeah, regarding the modifications in Trek. I always assumed they were cosmetic and probably fooled also by some sort of local cloak. Look at the time Riker was captured and they quickly identified him as being different by a simple scan.

I got the impression from Discovery that the process to actually genetically modify someone was a difficult, time consuming, dangerous and painful process that was only taken as an extreme measure: "What will it cost me?" "Everything"

TheValeyard · 27-11-2018 6:27pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I'm only waiting for Discovery to introduce a..... well a.... species-fluid species. "Are you identifying me as Klingon? That's offensive.

Think TNG already did that with Datas daughter Lal. She was allowed to choose her own gender and appearance.

Four finalists – an Andorian female, a Human male and female, and a Klingon male – Lal chose the Human female form.

27-11-2018 6:58pm

They did have a non gender species as well. Didn't riker fall for the one who was trying to identify as female? Then s/he got brainwashed back to nongender and told him to take a hike

TheIrishGrover · 27-11-2018 8:46pm

bluewolf wrote: »

They did have a non gender species as well. Didn't riker fall for the one who was trying to identify as female? Then s/he got brainwashed back to nongender and told him to take a hike

Yeah, and it was a very good episode actually. Well acted by Frakes

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