TNG runthrough

IvySlayer

Dr Crusher episodes are the worst

Sub Rosa, where she gets off with a ghost

Where she's trapped in a warp bubble, 'If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"

The boring ferengi scientist murder mystery one..

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Timicin wrote:

the work will continue

can't stop the work

TheIrishGrover

Evade wrote: »

For all the many faults of that episode "I AM NOT A MERRY MAN" makes it worth it.

I always enjoyed that one. Looked like they were just having a good laugh:

"Jean-Luc. For some reason I'm on Sherwood Forest"

"Yes, I know"

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it's darmok and jalad time

greedygoblin

bluewolf wrote: »

it's darmok and jalad time

Shaka when the walls fell.

Great episode. Haven't seen it in years.

Evade

bluewolf wrote: »

it's darmok and jalad time

I always thought Picard thinking the book he finds while rummaging through Dathon's things is a logbook is a bit of a leap, it could be almost anything.

pixelburp

"Temba, his arms wide!"

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"doctor you killed the giant floating crystal"
"i did it for renny my son"
"renny thinks you're an asshole now doc. From what i can tell of his memories. Soz"

I wish they'd managed to communicate with the giant flying crystal. I thought it was evil in the ep with lore?

Cookie_Monster

bluewolf wrote: »

I wish they'd managed to communicate with the giant flying crystal. I thought it was evil in the ep with lore?

brainless rather than evil, no?
The meet again in one of the Titan books and expand on it a bit. It's just the space equivalent of an apex predator.

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I must go back and check that one again

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Spock has made an appearance!

odyssey06

As you are watching, keep an eye out for some guest actors who auditioned for main cast roles e.g.
- Eric Menuyk (The Traveller) auditioned for the role of Data
- William Campbell (The Outrageous Okono) auditioned for the role of Riker
- Rosalind Chao (Keiko) was considered for the role of Tasha Yar, but turned down the final audition.
- Julia Nickson was also in the running for Tasha Yar, popped up as Ensign Liam T'Su in "Arsenal of Freedom" and Cassandra in DS9's paradise

In other series, William Russ (Tuvok) auditioned for Geordi, and Stephen Macht ("Krim" in DS9 The Circle) was considered for Picard.

Evade

bluewolf wrote: »

Spock has made an appearance!

Evade wrote: »

There's a nice callback/payoff to that in season 5.

odyssey06 wrote: »

In other series, William Russ (Tuvok) auditioned for Geordi

He shows up in Starship Mine as one of the thieves and as a crewman on the Enterprise B in Generations too.


I watched Gambit and Paralells the other day. Captain Data is one of my favourite things in TNG, it's a pity he only shows up in Gambit and Redemption. Paralells is probably one of the best of season seven, crazed Riker from the Borg Universe and captain Riker's "It's been a long time" to Picard are nice little touches.

Goodshape

Paralells is one of my favourites alright. Don't think it get's enough praise actually.

The following episode, The Pegasus, is really solid too.

Inviere

Finished. Season 7, imo, relative to what came before, is a stinker of a season. Cracking finale, and a handful of solid eps, but by and large it was pretty bad.

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Today we learn that alexander is a brat, worf is a bit lost and refuses help, and warp without a warp drive!
i guess the floaty organisms weren't the first attempt

Inviere

bluewolf wrote: »

and warp without a warp drive!

Never properly got that "concept", in terms of how they were saying it'd replace warp drive.

"Conn, drop us out of warp and change course for sector 001, engage!"

"Em, Captain, we can't. We're travelling by Soliton Wave so we need to continue on to our destination to meet a dispersal wave. Once we're there and safely out of this wave, I'll message the station to send a new wave headed for Sector 001 that we can get a lift off of, ok?"

pixelburp

I could easily imagine how, in a post-scarcity society like the Federation, there'd be dozens if not hundreds of these sorts of experiments; with no constraints on budgets, politics, conflict or any of the usual concepts that block ideas, anyone smart enough could get their batty experiment fronted by Starfleet. With no pressure towards practicality, no idea is too silly.

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Inviere wrote: »

Never properly got that "concept", in terms of how they were saying it'd replace warp drive.

"Conn, drop us out of warp and change course for sector 001, engage!"

"Em, Captain, we can't. We're travelling by Krieger Wave so we need to continue on to our destination to meet a dispersal wave. Once we're there and safely out of this wave, I'll message the station to send a new wave headed for Sector 001 that we can get a lift off of, ok?"

Yeah it seemed a bit mad but i figured if it worked they could do a portable controllable version or something

Inviere

bluewolf wrote: »

Yeah it seemed a bit mad but i figured if it worked they could do a portable controllable version or something

Something has to generate a dispersal wave, in front of you, heading in the opposite direction to you though in order to stop you. Similarly, something has to generate a wave behind you, so you can get swept away in it. I'm not sure how portable the tech really could have been

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Inviere wrote: »

Something has to generate a dispersal wave, in front of you, heading in the opposite direction to you though. Similarly, something has to generate a wave behind you, so you can get swept away in it. I'm not sure how portable the tech really could have been

I'll be honest i was paying less attention to that and more attention to yelling "there's no sound in space!" at the fancy sound effects from it...

Inviere

bluewolf wrote: »

I'll be honest i was paying less attention to that and more attention to yelling "there's no sound in space!" at the fancy sound effects from it...

(Even JJ got that right!)

Evade

bluewolf wrote: »

I'll be honest i was paying less attention to that and more attention to yelling "there's no sound in space!" at the fancy sound effects from it...

I always liked the old Star Wars EU excuse for sound in space, it's speakers in the cockpits/helmets giving you information from the sensors as sounds. Instead of looking at the sensor screen to see there's TIEs coming from behind you hear them.

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It's funny watching some episodes and being like, i don't remember this, but that's a bad guy...

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Worf's answer to another problem is death and Riker gives him a dressing down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaR7Uxau9OY
Bit dull but Frakes is a great actor

Inviere

bluewolf wrote: »

Worf's answer to another problem is death and Riker gives him a dressing down.

You can understand why though, in a warrior culture, losing the ability to stand is losing their way of life. I think Picards response is the most enlightened, we may not agree with their beliefs, but we should respect them, and not impose our own morality onto another culture.

AMKC

bluewolf wrote: »

Worf's answer to another problem is death and Riker gives him a dressing down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaR7Uxau9OY
Bit dull but Frakes is a great actor

I thought it was a great episode.

Inviere wrote: »

You can understand why though, in a warrior culture, losing the ability to stand is losing their way of life. I think Picards response is the most enlightened, we may not agree with their beliefs, but we should respect them, and not impose our own morality onto another culture.

But why should someone from another culture impose there believes onto someone who does not believe in them.

I thought Rikers response to Worfs request was brilliant and the right thing to do as well. Worf changed his mind fairly quickly when he realised who it would be that would carry out his request. Funny he had no problem asking Riker to do it but as soon as it was his son he did not have the courage to go through with it. Ironically that could have led to Alexander having a very different life do and maybe even becoming a better Klingon. Some friend he was do not having a problem trying to get his friend aka Riker to do something he did not want to do.

Evade

I think the biggest misstep in that episode is having Worf paralysed from the waist down instead of the neck down. Worf's position would be easier to justify then.

TheIrishGrover

As clunky as Babylon 5 dialogue could be, there was a good episode involving the doctor: There was a dying kid who could have been saved by a simple procedure which was forbidden by his people's beliefs.
He went against their beliefs and saved the kid only for the parents to freak out, devastated. They killed the kid in an attempt to undo what the doctor had done and try to save their kid's life. The doc got on his high horse about how backwards and stupid they were only for the commander to smack him down for being so arrogant assuming that his beliefs were superior to theirs.

Evade

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

As clunky as Babylon 5 dialogue could be, there was a good episode involving the doctor: There was a dying kid who could have been saved by a simple procedure which was forbidden by his people's beliefs.
He went against their beliefs and saved the kid only for the parents to freak out, devastated. They killed the kid in an attempt to undo what the doctor had done and try to save their kid's life. The doc got on his high horse about how backwards and stupid they were only for the commander to smack him down for being so arrogant assuming that his beliefs were superior to theirs.

Objectively, they are. Allowing your child to die because of some backwards belief is dumb. Doesn't matter if it's religious tradition or vaccines cause autism, dumb is dumb.