Star Trek Discovery Season 2 [ SPOILERS WITHIN ]

Optimus Prime · 02-10-2018 11:59am

Ive seen the trailer, it just reminded me of the romulan insignia, sure we will find out in due course anyways.

AMKC · 02-10-2018 11:30pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Yeah, I mean it's not like they hate Trek - it makes them a lot of money. However it does seem strange how they treat it. Star Trek is possibly the most famous franchise on TV. Everyone knows about it, even if they don't watch it.
It never has received the mainstream crossover that some genre shows have: The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Lost etc. But it still has a large following that generates a pretty large and reliable income.
Production costs are probably quite high for a station that has few genre shows. Their shows consist of comedy and cop shows (The Big Bang Theory, various NCIS shows etc). And the whole convoluted legality of movies etc certainly doesn't help. Especially as, while the movies do OK, they are never gonna be up there with the Superhero and Star Wars movies.

As someone said, the 50th anniversary passed last year with barely a blip. Sci-Fi has never been hotter and it would have been a perfect time to carpet bomb media with Trek updates: Movie, "New series starting TODAY!!!!!", reinvention/reboot. Retrospectives etc.

So, while I don't think the hate Trek, I do believe that they begrudge the costs involved for the revenue received. They'll keep it going in case it suddenly does go full-on mainstream but really they are just dabbling their feet.

As someone said, the 50th anniversary passed last year

That was two years ago now and getting nearer to three yeas ago now.

tromtipp · 03-10-2018 8:49pm

The winged thingy could be a caduceus symbol - I'm re-watching Enterprise and it's prominently displayed in the sickbay there - maybe they are going to give us a story about a doctor.

Spear · 04-10-2018 3:34pm

To me the wings seemed more reminiscent of a phoenix symbol. Given how they tried to hide the twists last year, I doubt they'd be so on the nose as to announce any Romulan presence so blatantly.

tromtipp · 04-10-2018 4:42pm

maybe it's a phoenix-caduceus to symbolise a doctor risen from the ashes . . .

Spear · 04-10-2018 4:44pm

tromtipp wrote: »

maybe it's a phoenix-caduceus to symbolise a doctor risen from the ashes . . .

That possibility occurred to me too, since the casting was made public fairly early.

Optimus Prime · 04-10-2018 4:48pm

I wonder if they will address that spore that landed on Tillys Shoulder

TheValeyard · 04-10-2018 5:19pm

Optimus Prime wrote: »

I wonder if they will address that spore that landed on Tillys Shoulder

Its part of the Star Trek Shorts

pixelburp · 04-10-2018 5:40pm

Spear wrote: »

That possibility occurred to me too, since the casting was made public fairly early.

That was very surprising, had thought they would at least keep that one secret. I do wonder what capacity he's back: I'm presuming it's just a continuation of Stamet's 'visions'.

TheIrishGrover · 04-10-2018 8:28pm

Oh is the doctor back? In some capacity? That's good. I liked him as a character and actor and I liked their relationship. Thought his death was the typical American "Bury Your Gays" in that they tend to kill off any sympathetic gay character.

fritzelly · 04-10-2018 9:02pm

They did say quite some time ago (before the season end) it wasnt the last you'd seen of him

corkie · 05-10-2018 2:49pm

Star Trek: Discovery Short Treks Trailer | 'Runaway'

'Star Trek: Short Treks' Episode 1 Packs a Lot into 15 Minutes

Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman introduces Short Treks

Just watched it, fun and entertaining 15 minutes show.

fritzelly · 05-10-2018 10:35pm

Was an ok first episode but didn't really add anything unless this is gonna be part of the second season - this is a totally new concept (at least never remember this brought up before) so could be an interesting storyline
But not complaining as it's still a bit of Trek to see us thru.

AMKC · 06-10-2018 8:20am

corkie wrote: »

Star Trek: Discovery Short Treks Trailer | 'Runaway'

'Star Trek: Short Treks' Episode 1 Packs a Lot into 15 Minutes

Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman introduces Short Treks

Just watched it, fun and entertaining 15 minutes show.

I thought it could not be viewed here. Have looked on sites myself and no luck yet in finding somewhere to view it. Did you use a streaming site or is there somewhere that has it where we can view it this site of the Atlantic?

Also maybe we could have a separate thread for these if we do have somewhere to view them.

corkie · 06-10-2018 3:49pm

@AMKC PM Sent as discussing illegal sources on public boards forums is not allowed.

AMKC · 06-10-2018 5:09pm

corkie wrote: »

@AMKC PM Sent as discussing illegal sources on public boards forums is not allowed.

Gotcha.

Goodshape · 06-10-2018 10:24pm

Season 2 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKf7pyxa1w

Wooo!

Klingon hair! Proper Klingon battle cruiser!!! Presumably Pike's "Number One"! Spock!!

Looks pretty good

fritzelly · 06-10-2018 10:33pm

Hell yeah, cant wait!

pixelburp · 06-10-2018 10:59pm

Well that looks pretty good I must say, and the retconning seems in full swing. Klingons hairy once more n all.

"The red angel" though, that's a bit Mystery Box. Everything else has me enthusiastic though. Captain Pike could be a classic captain yet.

Spear · 06-10-2018 11:20pm

Goodshape wrote: »

Season 2 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKf7pyxa1w

Wooo!
Klingon hair! Proper Klingon battle cruiser!!! Presumably Pike's "Number One"! Spock!!

Looks pretty good

I'll use spoiler tags even though it's public info for some time.

Yup, that's explicitly Pike's Number One, from way back in the days of the original pilot.

I think I'd have preferred if they'd held back more stuff from the trailer such as

the Empress

. Unless we're in for a major bait and switch like the first season.

Optimus Prime · 07-10-2018 12:25am

Looks great !

CastorTroy · 07-10-2018 11:27am

What was the deal with

Georgiou, before she took down the hood or should we know?

Spear · 07-10-2018 12:53pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

What was the deal with
Georgiou, before she took down the hood or should we know?

Section 31 seem to use holographic disguises or similar, or at least they did in the post season/credits clip at the end of season 1.

TheValeyard · 07-10-2018 2:15pm

Old style Klingons, brilliant!

Trailer is really good.

TheValeyard · 07-10-2018 2:19pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Well that looks pretty good I must say, and the retconning seems in full swing. Klingons hairy once more n all.

"The red angel" though, that's a bit Mystery Box. Everything else has me enthusiastic though. Captain Pike could be a classic captain yet.

My theorise (also from others)

Prime Universe Lorca

Iconians

Something trying to escape the mycelial network

BrookieD · 07-10-2018 3:29pm

that looks bloody good, can see how they want to get to classic trek look, i am in

BrookieD · 07-10-2018 3:30pm

Beardy Spock, Mirror Spock?

FutureGuy · 07-10-2018 9:34pm

They absolutely fcuking nailed the casting of

number one

pixelburp · 07-10-2018 9:38pm

Do we need spoiler tags? I think a public trailers contents are fair game for mentioning and talking about. Not like it's some sneaky set photo. ..

Slydice · 07-10-2018 10:16pm

Riker is in the trailer?

TheValeyard · 08-10-2018 8:08am

pixelburp wrote: »

Do we need spoiler tags? I think a public trailers contents are fair game for mentioning and talking about. Not like it's some sneaky set photo. ..

Agreed.

Kilngons look awesome.

Red angel is interesting

Pike seems a good fit

Spock is a Hippy

BrookieD · 08-10-2018 8:57am

Slydice wrote: »

Riker is in the trailer?

Where?

pixelburp · 08-10-2018 9:15am

Yeah, Pike is the big, happy surprise for me: I wasn't sure what to make of that announcement (beyond cynicism over the Enterprise link), and had doubts about Anson Mount for casting, but from what I've seen from the trailer he looks to be a 'true' Starfleet Captain - and if Discovery somehow manages to pad out Pike's backstory to make him into a bit of a hero or greater character than it'll be a happy case of a prequel doing good to the backstory for once.

FutureGuy · 08-10-2018 11:01am

pixelburp wrote: »

Yeah, Pike is the big, happy surprise for me: I wasn't sure what to make of that announcement (beyond cynicism over the Enterprise link), and had doubts about Anson Mount for casting, but from what I've seen from the trailer he looks to be a 'true' Starfleet Captain - and if Discovery somehow manages to pad out Pike's backstory to make him into a bit of a hero or greater character than it'll be a happy case of a prequel doing good to the backstory for once.

I’ll call it now.

I would be stunned if thought hasn’t been given to a new show showing the Pike Enterprise years.

We have a ship and three of its crew on discovery. I would dearly love to see it.

TheIrishGrover · 08-10-2018 1:20pm

Is Pike going to be a regular now? I thought he was only supposed to be in a few episodes (I may have just misread that somewhere). 'Cos I certanly like the vibe he gives off in the trailers.

I really liked the looks of that trailer.

FutureGuy · 08-10-2018 1:27pm

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Is Pike going to be a regular now? I thought he was only supposed to be in a few episodes (I may have just misread that somewhere). 'Cos I certanly like the vibe he gives off in the trailers.

I really liked the looks of that trailer.

Series regular for S2 from what I have read.

TheIrishGrover · 08-10-2018 2:09pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

Series regular for S2 from what I have read.

Ah, OK. Cool. I'm assuming they'll say something like: "But what about your ship?" "Ah, I handed it over to some other fellah" Huh? Huh? Nudge nudge...

pixelburp · 08-10-2018 2:15pm

I suspect while Pike's away, 'Number 1' will be in charge; there's a brief clip of her, complete with TOS style uniform. I'm betting we'll get a 2-parter at the start, ending with Pike & Number 1 parting ways while the former takes temp. command of the Discovery. (Side bar, didn't realise Rebecca Romijn was playing Number 1).

Out of curiousity: wondering what Season 1 haters thought of that trailer? Seemed like there was enough division over that first season, but has this trailer done anything to tempt folks back?

Evade · 08-10-2018 4:36pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Out of curiousity: wondering what Season 1 haters thought of that trailer? Seemed like there was enough division over that first season, but has this trailer done anything to tempt folks back?

I was going to watch season two anyway but I think the changes seen in the trailer are for the better. I'm not so sure about another season of guest captain instead of just promoting Saru. Promoting Saru and replacing Pike with a commodore would serve the same story purpose and if they absolutely must tie it to an existing character there's a few admirals from TOS they could have used Robert April might have been a good pick since he was already mentioned in STD.

TheValeyard · 08-10-2018 6:32pm

Doesnt Captain Pike go on to suffer horrible injuries?

BrookieD · 08-10-2018 6:45pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Doesnt Captain Pike go on to suffer horrible injuries?

Watch "The Cage" and follow up in TOS "The Menagerie, Part I & II"

TheValeyard · 08-10-2018 9:14pm

BrookieD wrote: »

Watch "The Cage" and follow up in TOS "The Menagerie, Part I & II"

Seen them, just trying to jog my memory

Evade · 08-10-2018 10:29pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Doesnt Captain Pike go on to suffer horrible injuries?

Mostly because it was a different actor and they didn't really look alike.

AMKC · 08-10-2018 10:50pm

Very disappointed with that trailer. Its just more of the same silly magic nonsense. I do not see what everyone is getting so hyped up about it over. Sure the is a k7 Klingon cruiser there but also all the other klingnot ships as well. Don't think it looks that great myself. Thinks its getting over hyped and ye will be in for a big disappointment when it does eventually air.

CramCycle · 09-10-2018 12:06am

fritzelly wrote: »

There is a reason they don't really care about the piracy of it - creates buzz, people still buy the blu-rays and most shows would never continue without the initial freebie viewing. When something is hard to get it becomes more of a commodity (isn't that how Apple works?)

Nothing is hard to get anymore, it doesn't make it more of a commodity. You either want to pay for it or you don't and as always, US TV firms haven't thought it through and lost out.

Evade wrote: »

Mostly because it was a different actor and they didn't really look alike.

Well this one seems to be trying to make him look like JJs Pike

Evade · 09-10-2018 12:24am

CramCycle wrote: »

Well this one seems to be trying to make him look like JJs Pike

I didn't mean recast actors have to look exactly like the originals but in the case of the Menagerie having one Pike on screen in the footage from the Cage and another in the courtroom and them looking nothing alike would be an issue hence the disfigurement make up.

CramCycle · 09-10-2018 12:37am

Evade wrote: »

I didn't mean recast actors have to look exactly like the originals but in the case of the Menagerie having one Pike on screen in the footage from the Cage and another in the courtroom and them looking nothing alike would be an issue hence the disfigurement make up.

I got that, I was making the point i seen no one else making in that this guy seems to have been cast for no other reason than he looks like a younger version of Pike from JJ Abrahms movies.

Now maybe they picked the best actor and decided it was easier to go that route but I just thought it stank of a room of casters who'd never even seen TOS and/or the pilot

Evade · 09-10-2018 1:03am

CramCycle wrote: »

Now maybe they picked the best actor and decided it was easier to go that route but I just thought it stank of a room of casters who'd never even seen TOS and/or the pilot

People working on STD who don't know much about Star Trek? I'm shocked.

BrookieD · 09-10-2018 7:27am

Just a thought so don't shoot - winged object and last Season 2 poster some mentioned Romulan design, soooooo could it be then the D7 cruiser is not Klingon but Romulan as there was an exchange of tech between the two factions with Romulan getting battlecruisers and Klingons gettings cloaking tech...... and as i type that i recall T'Kuvma having already used a cloak in Battle of binary stars..... hmmmm

Goodshape · 09-10-2018 12:26pm

You know what?

I think they got this.

w/r/t Discovery's Klingons having shaved off their hair in time of war:

https://twitter.com/marythechief/status/1049381663522709504

https://twitter.com/marythechief/status/1049441015998730240

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