Star Trek Discovery Season 2 [ SPOILERS WITHIN ]

pixelburp · 09-04-2018 7:10pm

Conversely I heard he was pretty poor in The Inhumans, but given that seemed to be an across-the-board failure, his was probably not the only misstep.

I suppose the obvious follow up question to the announcement of course is ... will they also cast Spock? I had wondered if Discovery might play the card whereby Pike/Spock were conveniently off-ship during the Enterprise cameo, so maybe to save a complete canon meltdown Spock will be the one holidaying on Risa.

I'm also wondering if the famous 'Number One' will appear as well; the unnamed second in command from the very original pilot, 'The Cage' that originally featuring Pike.

AMKC · 09-04-2018 7:19pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Nice. He was good in Hell on Wheels.

Is Colm Meaney? About time Trek had an Irish Captain.

Do spoiler if you post who it is as I do not want to know unless its Colm Meaney.

GottaGetGatt · 09-04-2018 7:24pm

AMKC wrote: »

Is Colm Meaney? About time Trek had an Irish Captain.

Do spoiler if you post who it is as I do not want to know unless its Colm Meaney.

No the lad in the picture Anson Mount.

AMKC · 09-04-2018 10:24pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

No the lad in the picture Anson Mount.

Awe that's a pity. Who was he in Hell On Wheels. Been a while since I seen it. never finished it either. Good show do if a bit dull at times.

GottaGetGatt · 10-04-2018 10:26am

AMKC wrote: »

Awe that's a pity. Who was he in Hell On Wheels. Been a while since I seen it. never finished it either. Good show do if a bit dull at times.

He played the main Character.He barely recognisable without the long hair and beard.Yeah same, I never finished the last season.

garbo speaks · 10-04-2018 12:32pm

I always thought Pike from TOS looked like a young Ray Liotta.

GSPfan · 12-04-2018 12:45am

What does the timeline say about Robert April at the time of Discovery season 2? Pike is Enterprises Captain but Robert April was there before him and went somewhere right?

Marje · 12-04-2018 11:08pm

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/tig-notaro-star-trek-discovery-1202750016/

Tig Notaro is joining “Star Trek: Discovery” for its second season.

The comedian will guest-star as Chief Engineer Denise Reno of the U.S.S. Hiawatha. The number of episodes she will appear in is not known.

AMKC · 12-04-2018 11:48pm

GSPfan wrote: »

What does the timeline say about Robert April at the time of Discovery season 2? Pike is Enterprises Captain but Robert April was there before him and went somewhere right?

Well he is either Captain of another ship or Starbase although after being Captain of the Enterprise and the flagship of the fleet I think unless he hated the job there is not really any other ship you would want and a Starbase might be boring, been promoted to Admiral or even Ambassador, retired or dead.

pixelburp · 16-04-2018 10:59am

So Jonathan Frakes is back with Discovery, and has revealed some details about the second episode of Season 2. He mentioned that

Spock is in his episode, albeit in younger form during flashback scenes. The chitchat doesn't confirm that a contemporary version will appear, only that a boy / teen version turns up.

garbo speaks · 16-04-2018 2:20pm

Discovery is such a poor show, there is no way they will be able to resist hauling out all of TOS main characters at some point. God forbid they would ever do there own thing.

_Kaiser_ · 16-04-2018 2:39pm

Interesting article about the Enterprise's appearance at the end of S1 and why it looked different (I've snipped the relevant bits)..

Taking to Facebook to discuss the release of a calendar featuring an early design of the Discovery version, show designer John Eaves explained a bit about the process.

“The task started with the guideline that the Enterprise for Discovery had to be 25% different, ....... After Enterprise, properties of Star Trek ownership changed hands and was divided,, so what was able to cross TV shows up to that point changed and a lot of the crossover was no longer allowed,” he said. “That is why when JJ [Abrams]’s movie came along everything had to be different.

I remember Midnight's Edge going on about this in their Discovery coverage - seems like they were right.

Goodshape · 16-04-2018 3:39pm

That's interesting. I thought the TV crew had all the access they want to the previous Star Trek television assets, that the separation was between the TV shows and the movies?

Is it actually the case that TOS assets are off-limits to Discovery too? What do they have the rights for?

Goodshape · 16-04-2018 3:41pm

pixelburp wrote: »

So Jonathan Frakes is back with Discovery, and has revealed some details about the second episode of Season 2. He mentioned that
Spock is in his episode, albeit in younger form during flashback scenes. The chitchat doesn't confirm that a contemporary version will appear, only that a boy / teen version turns up.

That guy's got some loose lips.

I guess when you're the Frakes you can kinda get away with that.

Evade · 16-04-2018 3:56pm

Goodshape wrote: »

That's interesting. I thought the TV crew had all the access they want to the previous Star Trek television assets, that the separation was between the TV shows and the movies?

Is it actually the case that TOS assets are off-limits to Discovery too? What do they have the rights for?

That certainly explains the different look to everything but if they cant use TOS stuff it seems like a bad idea to set your series around that time period.

meep · 16-04-2018 4:11pm

I knew there was something odd-looking about that Tribble in the captains collection. So it was 25% different from a TOS tribble?

Optimus Prime · 16-04-2018 4:44pm

Could explain the Klingons :pac:

_Kaiser_ · 16-04-2018 6:29pm

Goodshape wrote: »

That's interesting. I thought the TV crew had all the access they want to the previous Star Trek television assets, that the separation was between the TV shows and the movies?

Is it actually the case that TOS assets are off-limits to Discovery too? What do they have the rights for?

Midnight's Edge covered it here (8:55-13:19)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I3y3_QmBsQ

Whatever about their editorial slant, and bearing in mind the video was released last May, it goes into the licensing split and why Discovery looks the way it does.

Might have sounded like a conspiracy theory last year, but the article I referenced above would seem to confirm at least some of it.

beauf · 16-04-2018 7:49pm

Why on earth they don't have enough room in an entire universe for a completely story arc instead of rebooting existing ones.

garbo speaks · 17-04-2018 10:47am

beauf wrote: »

Why on earth they don't have enough room in an entire universe for a completely story arc instead of rebooting existing ones.

Because they want to appeal more to people who only have a passing familiarity with Star Trek, and what better way to do it than getting in the Enterprise!Spock! stuff the layman has heard of!! God forbid we would ever tell a fresh, new story!

Goodshape · 24-04-2018 2:50pm

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Interesting article about the Enterprise's appearance at the end of S1 and why it looked different (I've snipped the relevant bits)..

Taking to Facebook to discuss the release of a calendar featuring an early design of the Discovery version, show designer John Eaves explained a bit about the process.

“The task started with the guideline that the Enterprise for Discovery had to be 25% different, ....... After Enterprise, properties of Star Trek ownership changed hands and was divided,, so what was able to cross TV shows up to that point changed and a lot of the crossover was no longer allowed,” he said. “That is why when JJ [Abrams]’s movie came along everything had to be different.

CBS have clarified that the design change was a creative decision, not a legal one. They do have full right to use the original TOS designs.

CBS, via TrekMovie.com wrote:

CBS TV Studios does, in fact, have the right to use the U.S.S. Enterprise ship design from the past TV series, and are not legally required to make changes. The changes in the ship design were creative ones, made to utilize 2018’s VFX technology.

https://trekmovie.com/2018/04/17/star-trek-discovery-uss-enterprise-design-change-clarified-as-creative-decision-not-a-legal-one/

flazio · 26-04-2018 8:37pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiClFLJAw-u/
Do I hear prime Pike interspersed in that teaser?

_Kaiser_ · 26-04-2018 8:58pm

flazio wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiClFLJAw-u/
Do I hear prime Pike interspersed in that teaser?

.. and Spock, and updated TOS uniforms, and ship-specific badges, and an Enterprise computer graphic.

They seem to be making a determined effort to make it more in-line with TOS this time round anyway.

Looks good would be my judgement so far

Evade · 26-04-2018 9:20pm

So STD gets the standard Trek season one weirdness that'll never be brought up again?

pixelburp · 26-04-2018 9:23pm

I'd heard intimations that they'd kean further towards the designs from TOS, but didn't think they go that far! Those uniforms are quite aesthetically jarring against those from Discovery; I quite liked the new uniforms tbh. Felt just that, like uniforms.

BrookieD · 26-04-2018 9:29pm

that teaser looks interesting, lots teased and all good - will be great if they stick with 1701 being the flagship and all operations in line with more ambassadorial roles being the reason for the uniform change...

Evade · 26-04-2018 9:37pm

BrookieD wrote: »

that teaser looks interesting, lots teased and all good - will be great if they stick with 1701 being the flagship and all operations in line with more ambassadorial roles being the reason for the uniform change...

The original Enterprise wasn't the flagship. Only the D was referred to as the Federation's flagship.

AMKC · 26-04-2018 10:46pm

Evade wrote: »

The original Enterprise wasn't the flagship. Only the D was referred to as the Federation's flagship.

And the E.

Evade · 26-04-2018 10:49pm

AMKC wrote: »

And the E.

Wasn't that only for the fleet in the battle of Sector 001?

AMKC · 26-04-2018 11:00pm

Evade wrote: »

Wasn't that only for the fleet in the battle of Sector 001?

Surely they would have there best most experienced crew and there newest ship as the flagship of the fleet at least until a better ship and crew come anyway.

Evade · 26-04-2018 11:04pm

AMKC wrote: »

Surely they would have there best most experienced crew and there newest ship as the flagship of the fleet at least until a better ship and crew come anyway.

That's a good argument but it was never mentioned on screen as far as I know. I think they finally realised they were using the term incorrectly and just dropped it.

AMKC · 27-04-2018 12:04pm

Evade wrote: »

That's a good argument but it was never mentioned on screen as far as I know. I think they finally realised they were using the term incorrectly and just dropped it.

Ye maybe. Still I think the Enterprise is the ship most in the Federation would want to serve on at some stage in there career.

TheValeyard · 27-04-2018 8:05pm

AMKC wrote: »

Ye maybe. Still I think the Enterprise is the ship most in the Federation would want to serve on at some stage in there career.

I certainly wouldn't serve on a Miranda Class. They seem very explody.

Evade · 27-04-2018 10:56pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't serve on a Miranda Class. They seem very explody.

I dunno. They were in service for over 100 years, they can't be that bad.

pixelburp · 27-04-2018 11:01pm

I think it's probably because Wrath of Khan was some of my first exposure to Trek, but I really like the Miranda design. There's a certain pragmatism and industry mixed into the design that the showier models of Federation ship lack. Like it feels more robust than other types...

AMKC · 28-04-2018 3:23pm

https://twitter.com/StarTrekRoom

pixelburp · 14-07-2018 7:08pm

First photos from season 2 have appeared, and while one is just Burnham looking pensive (apparently on board the Enterprise), the other is a good look at a new (alien) character Linus. The makeup and prosthetics remain impressive looking :

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-first-images-of-star-trek-discovery-season-two-sho-1827601166

Slydice · 20-07-2018 10:44pm

Comic Con Season 2 trailer:

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-07-2018 10:50pm

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Slydice · 20-07-2018 11:00pm

30,000 light years.

Definitely the Enterprise isn't gonna cover that but are we going to be seeing Spore drive action or maybe some transwarp or why did they say pulsar? Is it going to be some using of pulsars to build up energy and speed. Could something like the borg transwarp hub be around a pulsar? Maybe the original makers of the transwarp conduits?

Evade · 20-07-2018 11:15pm

Are those four pips on the front of the space suit rank? Burnham has four, so does Pike and I didn't see anyone else's clearly.

Slydice · 20-07-2018 11:20pm

Well.. Pike is using the old Sleeve rank on his Gold Uniform and his is Captain.

I'm guessing the space suit pips are just a space suit design thing and not a rank thing. Maybe they change colour is something isn't working in the suit.

pixelburp · 20-07-2018 11:39pm

CBS also said there'd be 4 mini episodes released online, 10-15 minutes each. They'll cover Tilly, Harry Mudd and others.

pixelburp · 21-07-2018 12:03am

Quite liked what I saw and notwithstanding the slightly navel gazing voiceover from Burnham, there was a distinct uptick in ... fun? Frivolity in the various scenes.

Evade · 21-07-2018 12:04am

Slydice wrote: »

Well.. Pike is using the old Sleeve rank on his Gold Uniform and his is Captain.

I'm guessing the space suit pips are just a space suit design thing and not a rank thing. Maybe they change colour is something isn't working in the suit.

The Discovery comm badges use TNG style pips for rank and it just looks odd if that's not what the are.

fritzelly · 21-07-2018 12:28am

Well that trailer has just got me super excited for season 2!

Loving the retro throwback with the uniforms

Jmccoy1 · 21-07-2018 1:04am

This is looking great, can’t wait

AMKC · 21-07-2018 1:07am

So when will season 2 be available to watch?

Goodshape · 21-07-2018 1:13am

AMKC wrote: »

So when will season 2 be available to watch?

January 2019.

Spear · 21-07-2018 1:20am

There's a few other details emerged, that aren't in the video.

Rebecca Romjin plays the Enterprise first officer, referred to as Number One, which seems to be a throwback to the TOS first pilot.

And Wilson Cruz is back as Dr Culber.

While we seem to see the initial setup for season 2, the first started off in one direction and pivotted fairly massively, so it may not amount to much ultimately.

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Star Trek Discovery Season 2 [ SPOILERS WITHIN ]