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SMACKDOWN LIVE SUPERTHREAD

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought Nikki would be a better choice for Abigail but interesting to see what happens next

    I always see Sonya as another Bella as they look alike :p poor OtiRose the couple can't be happy even with Ziggler gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I thought Nikki would be a better choice for Abigail but interesting to see what happens next

    I always see Sonya as another Bella as they look alike :p poor OtiRose the couple can't be happy even with Ziggler gone

    Come on, Rotis is a tap in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Has Otis still got MITB?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Has Otis still got MITB?

    Surprisingly he does but you wouldn’t think so the way they’re programming him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looking forward to seeing Shorty Cole getting called up the the Smackdown roster to team with Shorty G as The Vanilla Shorties.

    Vince and Bruce will get a giggle out of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Come on, Rotis is a tap in!

    Mantis surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Loughc wrote: »
    Surprisingly he does but you wouldn’t think so the way they’re programming him.

    I wish they'd have done this more down the years, esp with someone who's not a comedy guy unlikely to win like Otis

    Imagine 2007/08 Edge going away for a few months to heal various injuries with the briefcase then cashing in on Jeff Hardy winning the big one for the first time

    Or a face CM Punk or face anyone outsmarting the same 2007/08 Edge in one of the times he stole the title

    My MITB fantasies involve Edge, when really they shouldn't because he was involved in some way in the first 6 of them :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/2020-08-07

    Firefly house and then a very special match Jeff Hardy vs King Corbin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Don't forget half a dozen segments with 2020's budget version of LayCool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    more excited about having a few snacks than watching this :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    so were getting Bliss as Sister Abigail later then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    so the fiend is going to speak ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    bit of a bizarre ending

    This new group don't look very menacing physically and will turn out just to be nobody's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The Fiend and Alexa are a bargain bin Beauty and the Beast and that nonsense at the end was a bargain bin Nexus invasion.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Brawn saying he doesn't care about Bliss pretty much gives away the ending of Bliss low-blowing him to cost him the title.

    The ending wasn't great imo either. The five people don't look physically intimidating at all. At a guess, they didn't want anyone who could be identified, cause they've not locked down who the five are yet. But, even acknowledging that two were women, it felt like kids playing Nexus imo. I genuinely don't mind height and build. I love Gable, DIY, etc. But it was the entire presentation, the childish hollering, etc. They looked like Tozawa's ninjas.

    When Nexus attacked, they made sure to have a mix of guys, and made sure to let them beat down Cena too. That presented them as an actual threat. This lot waited till the ring was empty, and they cleared out the commentators too. They just weren't intimidating imo. They need someone with a presence (physical or charismatic) to get a voice on them asap.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Mod Note: Part of post removed.


    As Lord TSC mentioned it was like a bunch of Tozawas ninja crew in the ring. There is absolutely no reason to be scared or shocked on what they did. They just beat up a few nobodies, spray painted on plastic and got a chainsaw to cut the ropes.
    It felt more like a bunch of secondary school kids trying to act hard around their mates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I actually enjoyed the debut but definitely agree they could have made them more of a physical threat. It seems obvious that someone should have run out to try stop the madness and they should have beaten the p1ss out of them. Did wonder myself if some of these were placeholders but showing two women is interesting. Guessing one is Vanessa Borne. They all seemed quite short as well or maybe that was just what it looked like, made me think Dominik Dijakovic wasn't part of it. Had this been their introduction and we knew nothing about a faction I think it would have proven more effective.

    Not sure about the Fiend angle. Just doesn't seem that interesting, especially as Braun basically doesn't seem to care about Bliss so I've got to assume she will turn on him so Bray wins. More than anything it sort of just took some of the tension out of the story but that's just my two cents.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    One of the women seems to have been Carmella, going on pictures doing the round. The one who chased Corey Graves off with a baseball bat. Which is hilarious.

    Thats not to say she'll be a final participant. I think the reason they've kept them so covered up is so they can make a final decision later. Could also be why there was no distinctively big guys in it (Dijakovic seemed to be one of them on Raw, but not on Smackdown, for instance).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Yeah, I did think one of them seemed to be Carmella. Which I found odd. Definitely think they are just throwing whoever is around into the group as otherwise it would be too obvious. Could see them maybe being fully unveiled at Summerslam and them having a big match then at Payback.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I like what they are doing with Sonya I really think see can be a star is used right by creative.

    The Bro, Sheamus, Corbin, Hardy & Shorty interfering with each other was well done.


    The rest was very very Meh.

    Edit, I'm actually thinking Graves might be involved in this group as he has mentioned in commentary the lat two weeks now that he is not an active competitor and with others now coming back after being out for a number of years with concussion injuries seemingly healed up. I also think I read somewhere that he has been training hard in ring with his brother.

    It also fits with his image.


    Also they are tiny and I mean tiny they were barely a head over the top rope.


    Mike & Maria & Carmella & Maverick & Primo & Epico & Axel are tiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I assuming the Fiend/Alexa bit was just meant as a performance (or whatever word I'm looking for) by Bray rather than Alexa really being there.

    As for that ending, running people off isn't exactly an ideal start. I don't think I recognised the one woman they beat up.
    If it hadn't been for having to do the Mandy/Sonya bit, having the new group beat down Heavy Machinery and M&M would've been better.
    At least Nexus made a statement with their debut, to the point of one member getting fired.
    There was no sign of them on NXT, though that's probably because NXT seems to have some idea of how to fill a show.

    Why didn't Kayla report on the box Otis knocked over?

    So Naomi to win the Battle Royal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    That was an excellent Smackdown. Stuff happening, story progression and a very good ending. The only problem is WWE do this here and there and then go back to crap the next week. Hopefully they keep it going.

    I think I could watch Sheamus wrestle non stop. He always has great matches as he looks like a tough guy as well. The Fiend, sonya etc sall did their bit to make it a good night. Stuff happening is the main thing!

    Loved the ending with Retribution wrecking the place. I liked that they were all covered and not huge. We have people online analysing video images even! Like for example if its Brawn in a mask we know who it is. They can always reveal later who is in charge and keeps us guessing. I loved them going after the cameramen as well. No one was safe!

    Hopefully they keep building it now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Is Michael cole this stupid or does vince think we are that stupid. Mandy rose now has short hair and listening to Mitchell cole you'd swear it was a challenge to work out who it is.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Mod Note:
    If you've an issue with a poster, please report rather than engaging in personal spats.

    3 posts deleted or edited cause they were off topic. I'm also banning Ricero for 3 months for continued ignoring of mod instructions.

    Back to SD discussions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Is Michael cole this stupid or does vince think we are that stupid. Mandy rose now has short hair and listening to Mitchell cole you'd swear it was a challenge to work out who it is.

    It could've been that other blonde who had a reason to attack Sonya. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    It could've been that other blonde who had a reason to attack Sonya. :)

    And I used to like mitchell cole (TM the rock) because when he and Tazz were doing Smackdown in the mid 2000's they had heyman working with them and even in 2011 of which I've been doing a rewatch of (2011 raw looks ecw gritty compared to now btw) but it's bad enough WWE play music when doing a run in but michael cole loses his memory as to who it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I think were getting an attack on the Mcmahons by Retribution and were all to forget about how similar they are too Nexes and the type of things they done when they started out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What will Retribution do tonight ??


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    What will Retribution do tonight ??

    Jump around hollering like idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I think tonight is the night where they go too far and knock over a table.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I think tonight is the night where they go too far and knock over a table.

    Can they reach a table :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    how are going to sneak into arena when they move to the Amway Arena ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Sure they tipped over the commentary desk last week. How could they top that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Odds on riot police?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Id say these retribution lads are just fodder and lures. So when they get some attention off serious competition , lights go out and the real 5 or so will attack.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Lads they're going all out this week with Retribution, according to leaks:

    They're going to leave the cap off the toothpaste.
    Leave breadcrumbs in the butter.
    Worst of all - This week, they leave their respective houses and LEAVE THE IMMERSIONS ON!

    Everything changes after tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,282 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Whatever about the other things, they don't seem brave enough to leave the immersion on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Whatever about the other things, they don't seem brave enough to leave the immersion on.

    Vince would have a conniption


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    oh they hyped up the security, That will go well :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    These guys are bad and so rebellious

    That extra security made **** all difference


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Tegan "My gimmick is I like Marvel" Nox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Abyss looking well

    TNA nostalgia in the segment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    baldy braun

    Retribution causing havoc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,880 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    That was an odd segment

    The Fiend and Retribution have the same type of blackout thing going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Shemaus going with Snatch pikey gimmick now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Abyss looking well

    TNA nostalgia in the segment

    WTF did h to even do in that segment!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Shemaus going with Snatch pikey gimmick now.

    Luther Ward will be furious!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    A slow build with AJ that leads to Abyss against Wyatt I could get behind that.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    If Nexus and Aces and Eights had babies they’d be retribution.

    Speaking of TNA lite. Aj, Jeff hardy and Abyss all in a segment together. WWE has gone full TNA. The slightest bit of pressure from AEW and it looks like they’re crumbling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Loughc wrote: »
    If Nexus and Aces and Eights had babies they’d be retribution.

    Speaking of TNA lite. Aj, Jeff hardy and Abyss all in a segment together. WWE has gone full TNA. The slightest bit of pressure from AEW and it looks like they’re crumbling.

    Ye with MVP, Lashley and Drew and Joe on commentary RAW it really is TNA/WWE these days.


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