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Joe and Keith breakfast show

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  • #252
    Ultimate Ultan
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Ultimate Ultan


    room_149 wrote: »
    True, the last few JNLR reports all made for uncomfortable reading if you were involved in the place. A little birdy has just told me he knew about it folding/ re-branding back as far as November 2013, however.

    Fair enough, but I still don't think he did anything wrong accepting a job with a secure employer, when everyone knew his current ones were in a bad place.


  • #253
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Phantom's not gonna recover, not the way they're doing it anyhow.

    They should just hand it back to Simon Maher.


  • #254
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Ultimate Ultan wrote: »
    I don't think that's fair to be honest. He knew, like everyone did, that Phantom was in trouble, and he got offered a job with RTÉ. Why wouldn't he take it? I mean the man has bills to pay, like the rest of us, and life isn't a movie with a happy ending. I'd say most other Phantom DJ's would have taken the gig too, if they had the chance. To imply that Keith was the only one that knew that Phantom was in trouble and used his "insider knowledge" to manufacture his exit plan is low and uncalled for imo.


    I was simply saying that his timing was very lucky, given the announcement this weekend. As you say, like everyone else he would have known the station had problems but I was not implying anything specific at all. The situation arose as you stated. However, as it happens, some of the other posters did see more into his move.
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  • #255
    Ultimate Ultan
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Ultimate Ultan


    Declan A Walsh wrote: »
    some of the other posters did see more into his move.

    That's what I have a problem with.


  • #256
    unblvlblkult
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭unblvlblkult


    Broadsheet have an extract from jim carrol;s piece...

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/17/phantom-pain-2/

    Calls out Joe 'n' keeps show as the stations lowest point.

    An awful shame as the station was still better than a lot of the other dross out there.


  • #257
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,177 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    unblvlblkult wrote: »
    Broadsheet have an extract from jim carrol;s piece...

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/17/phantom-pain-2/

    Calls out Joe 'n' keeps show as the stations lowest point.

    An awful shame as the station was still better than a lot of the other dross out there.

    There is another thread on this forum about Jim Carrroll's article and it links to the full version of that article.

    Here is the thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057150547
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  • #258
    lordgoat
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    unblvlblkult wrote: »
    Broadsheet have an extract from jim carrol;s piece...

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/17/phantom-pain-2/

    Calls out Joe 'n' keeps show as the stations lowest point.

    An awful shame as the station was still better than a lot of the other dross out there.

    That's the bit that really smacked me as Jobs for the boys. I know very very few people that rate him as a DJ. He's awful at what he does imo. A poor fit for the station from day one of his appointment and how he is still kept while others who have been there far longer and are much better at what they do are given the bullet is a joke. Cronyism a definite perception be nice to get some clairifiaction as to why those 3 were picked.


  • #259
    Rosser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    Sounds a bit bitter from an ex dj who once took a walk on the wild side played some hip hop and got pulled up by station management or takes issue that the standard of "bants" on the station aren't "ace" enough.

    That the station launched late, that it opened during a recession, that the way in which much of the station's potential audience have changed they way they access music are facts whether it suits the station's detractors or not.

    In the case of 6 Music a lot of changes had to be made to make it a viable proposition, Lauren Laverne might not be everyone's cup of tea, Radcliffe & Maconie were brought in from Radio 2 and Steve Lamcq is no kid either (age was an issue raised about Joe Donnelly earlier in the thread).

    I've said it before, Joe Donnelly is fine as a DJ (he was really good with Tom Dunne) and the pairing with Charlotte had improved Phantom breakfast, the breakfast format is just that 'a format' that is not to everyone's taste. It's a real shame that the Richies and Derek Byrne are going because they were really on to something.

    Whether people love or hate Phantom I think we're agreed that if it goes that's it for commercial radio so wouldn't it be better that like 6Music everyone gets behind the station, #savephantom anyone?


  • #260
    Barna77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    ^^ I've been listening to BBC6 the odd time. I'd do in the mornings during Joe & Keith's breakfast "banter" and afternoon on Claire Beck's.

    Joe and Charlotte are better than J&K. Awkward and uneasy moment this morning when he asked Charlotte her opinion on Scottish independence...


  • #261
    Slutmonkey57b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Rosser wrote: »
    Sounds a bit bitter from an ex dj who once took a walk on the wild side played some hip hop and got pulled up by station management or takes issue that the standard of "bants" on the station aren't "ace" enough.

    That the station launched late, that it opened during a recession, that the way in which much of the station's potential audience have changed they way they access music are facts whether it suits the station's detractors or not.

    In the case of 6 Music a lot of changes had to be made to make it a viable proposition, Lauren Laverne might not be everyone's cup of tea, Radcliffe & Maconie were brought in from Radio 2 and Steve Lamcq is no kid either (age was an issue raised about Joe Donnelly earlier in the thread).

    I've said it before, Joe Donnelly is fine as a DJ (he was really good with Tom Dunne) and the pairing with Charlotte had improved Phantom breakfast, the breakfast format is just that 'a format' that is not to everyone's taste. It's a real shame that the Richies and Derek Byrne are going because they were really on to something.

    Whether people love or hate Phantom I think we're agreed that if it goes that's it for commercial radio so wouldn't it be better that like 6Music everyone gets behind the station, #savephantom anyone?

    "Getting behind" someone who has destroyed what little was left of the station isn't a positive move.

    All that does is re-inforce the idea that station managers can serve up whatever brainless tepid ****e they want and the audience will take it.

    I feel sorry for Charlotte, being stuck with "the bants", but I've no sympathy at all for Joe or Keith.


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  • #262
    windowcleaner
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭windowcleaner


    Rosser wrote: »
    Sounds a bit bitter from an ex dj who once took a walk on the wild side played some hip hop and got pulled up by station management or takes issue that the standard of "bants" on the station aren't "ace" enough.

    That the station launched late, that it opened during a recession, that the way in which much of the station's potential audience have changed they way they access music are facts whether it suits the station's detractors or not.

    In the case of 6 Music a lot of changes had to be made to make it a viable proposition, Lauren Laverne might not be everyone's cup of tea, Radcliffe & Maconie were brought in from Radio 2 and Steve Lamcq is no kid either (age was an issue raised about Joe Donnelly earlier in the thread).

    I've said it before, Joe Donnelly is fine as a DJ (he was really good with Tom Dunne) and the pairing with Charlotte had improved Phantom breakfast, the breakfast format is just that 'a format' that is not to everyone's taste. It's a real shame that the Richies and Derek Byrne are going because they were really on to something.

    Whether people love or hate Phantom I think we're agreed that if it goes that's it for commercial radio so wouldn't it be better that like 6Music everyone gets behind the station, #savephantom anyone?

    Think you have total wrong end of the stick there - Carroll's show was one of the best on Phantom and which always - not once - walked on the wild side. Huge shame when he left. And if you read his stuff regularly, you'll see that he was wrote again and again about radio in Ireland and knows his stuff.

    Those excuses about recession and delays are always wheeled out and, like FG blaming FF over and over again, just don't stick anymore. This is 2014, not 2006, and the station has only themselves to blame with some appalling daytime DJs and terrible playlisting choices. Age has SFA to do with it - John Peel comes to mind - but rather awful decisions taken by management repeatedly - and not just Communicorp nice but dim yes-men like Ricky "PJ Harvey is a guy" Geragthy.

    Joe Donnelly may be a lovely man and Keith Walsh may rescue kittens from trees but they were and are appalling breakfast show DJs for a station like Phantom. Maybe they'd work on Spin on iBallygobackwards but not a niche alt rock station like Phantom.

    As for "everyone" getting behind the station, what Slutmonkey57b said


  • #263
    Five Lamps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    wrote:
    In the case of 6 Music a lot of changes had to be made to make it a viable proposition, Lauren Laverne might not be everyone's cup of tea, Radcliffe & Maconie were brought in from Radio 2 and Steve Lamcq is no kid either (age was an issue raised about Joe Donnelly earlier in the thread).

    6 Music is not a viable proposition and could not survive if it was a commercial entity. It costs millions to run - almost £12m one year and delivers a small audience. Hence, it was going to be chopped. Only for a noisy minority and it suits the BBC to hog the format and increase their overall reach was it saved.


  • #264
    Rosser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    I have to say fair points, well made!


  • #265
    room_149
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭room_149


    Last morning of the Breakfast show today. Joe Donnelly was informing us all to tune into the same frequency next week for the changes..
    Felt a bit sorry for Charlotte Flood, don't like her much as a DJ but she's been the morning show producer since 2007/2008 and fits the station's image better than Alan Partridge Donnelly.
    The two Richies show last night almost had me in tears. Ditto Laura Lee Conboy's Spiral stairs. It's a crime they are being axed to spare a middle of the road Commincorp yes-man like Donnelly.


  • #266
    room_149
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭room_149


    Great to hear Cathal Funge on air this morning.
    He's promised to keep the chat down to a minimum and just play some music. To quote from his first few lines earlier 'mornings are difficult enough as it is'
    Almost felt like cheering when he said that, it's been a long couple of years since our erstwhile undynamic duo laid waste the capital's heads in the mornings on Phantom/105.2fm

    First track played was 'Moving on up by Primal Scream.


  • #267
    Five Lamps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Five Lamps


    room_149 wrote: »
    Great to hear Cathal Funge on air this morning.
    He's promised to keep the chat down to a minimum and just play some music. To quote from his first few lines earlier 'mornings are difficult enough as it is'
    Almost felt like cheering when he said that, it's been a long couple of years since our erstwhile undynamic duo laid waste the capital's heads in the mornings on Phantom/105.2fm

    First track played was 'Moving on up by Primal Scream.

    Cathal is a great presenter but I can't see the single header format lasting long.


  • #268
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    lorc43 wrote: »
    yeah it is

    Wha'?


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