Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

stimpson · 01-02-2019 9:16pm

Riskymove wrote: »

From reading this I think the PHEV might be what I am looking for

I am looking for a SUV/4x4 style

But prefer petrol to diesel and prefer automatic

Monday to Friday I mostly just drive a relatively short distance to a train station and back which I reckon could be covered by the electric charge

Ay weekends I have longer journeys including once a month to Limerick and back

Occasional longer journeys as per other people

The PHEV seems to fit

Is there anything else I should be considering than just journey distances?

Seems like a good fit. How far is it to Limerick, and can you charge when you’re there?

KELTICKNIGHTT · 08-03-2019 8:21pm

Hi guys
Question
Does the Outlander phev app work with gx3h or is it only for gx4h and gx5h models

Butson · 22-03-2019 5:22pm

Guys I'm sure this has been asked already, and apologies if so, but could anybody recommend a good website to buy a charger cable from?

Imported the car from UK, came with Granny Cable so all good there. Just looking for the public one, type 2 to type 1 I think?
Main dealers here charging a fortune.

thanks.

daheff · 22-03-2019 5:24pm

blackbox wrote: »

Unfortunately the Kia PHEV also seems to have black interiors only.

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KIA NIRO PHEV only comes with light coloured interior.

stimpson · 22-03-2019 5:45pm

Butson wrote: »

Guys I'm sure this has been asked already, and apologies if so, but could anybody recommend a good website to buy a charger cable from?

Imported the car from UK, came with Granny Cable so all good there. Just looking for the public one, type 2 to type 1 I think?
Main dealers here charging a fortune.

thanks.

I bought this one and used AddressPal for delivery. I wanted a coiled one and I figured I should go for 32A, even though 16A is fine for the Outlander. There was only £10 in the difference.

https://evinfo.info/product/coiled-ev-charging-cable/

Gumbo · 22-03-2019 5:45pm

Butson wrote: »

Guys I'm sure this has been asked already, and apologies if so, but could anybody recommend a good website to buy a charger cable from?

Imported the car from UK, came with Granny Cable so all good there. Just looking for the public one, type 2 to type 1 I think?
Main dealers here charging a fortune.

thanks.

Have you checked adverts or donedeal?

KCross · 23-03-2019 12:45am

daheff wrote: »

KIA NIRO PHEV only comes with light coloured interior.

You can get black interior too. Maybe its only since 191.

n97 mini · 23-03-2019 1:54am

kceire wrote: »

Have you checked adverts or donedeal?

Or eBay. I bought a 32A brand new for £80. I paid a bit more than the going rate too as I wanted an orange cable -- more visible in poor light.

blackbox · 23-03-2019 11:05pm

daheff wrote: »

KIA NIRO PHEV only comes with light coloured interior.

I see pictures of them with light interiors on the internet, but it isn't an option on Kia's website car configurator.

Cardenkelly · 24-03-2019 12:41am

In the end I got an ampera - no app with that but you can use start a preheat using the key fob, a better solution imho[/QUOTE]

hi, may i ask where you are and who you have for servicing your ampera ??
i just fixed a charge door problem with a garage in wexford as vauxhall has no one in ireland to
deal with an ampera. this is a major headache for me, and something i never researched b4 I bought it.

daheff · 24-03-2019 8:37pm

blackbox wrote: »

I see pictures of them with light interiors on the internet, but it isn't an option on Kia's website car configurator.

i bought one in end Q4.... all came with same spec... no options(barely even a choice of colours).

Butson · 25-03-2019 1:24pm

stimpson wrote: »

I bought this one and used AddressPal for delivery. I wanted a coiled one and I figured I should go for 32A, even though 16A is fine for the Outlander. There was only £10 in the difference.

https://evinfo.info/product/coiled-ev-charging-cable/

thanks a mil

phill106 · 25-03-2019 7:39pm

Looking at these and i like them. Shocking amount of blank buttons though even on a 2016 gx4?

stimpson · 25-03-2019 8:32pm

phill106 wrote: »

Looking at these and i like them. Shocking amount of blank buttons though even on a 2016 gx4?

There is just a shocking amount of buttons full stop. I’ve got a top spec GX5hs and it has blanks too. The interior is just a bit of a letdown. There is no on screen controls a la iDrive, and the satnav is a bit of a disaster, but it’s well speced, comfortable and cheap to run (assuming your commute is within EV range)

phill106 · 26-03-2019 12:00am

stimpson wrote: »

There is just a shocking amount of buttons full stop. I’ve got a top spec GX5hs and it has blanks too. The interior is just a bit of a letdown. There is no on screen controls a la iDrive, and the satnav is a bit of a disaster, but it’s well speced, comfortable and cheap to run (assuming your commute is within EV range)

i just dont get that...wonder what missing buttons do...
death ray?
ejector seats?
electric charge to zap anyone cycling in lycra?!

stimpson · 26-03-2019 12:27am

phill106 wrote: »

i just dont get that...wonder what missing buttons do...
death ray?
ejector seats?
electric charge to zap anyone cycling in lycra?!

On the lower bank on the right hand side there are buttons for LDW, front parking sensor sensitivity, electric tailgate, collision avoidance and pedestrian warning sensitivity. The 3 above that are dash menu, stability control and something else (I forget). In front of the gearstick are 5 switches and the centre is the only one that is used on mine - for heated steering wheel. There are other options in other markets like a 230v inverter and a block heater, so presumably there are blanks for those models.

duploelabs · 26-03-2019 9:45am

stimpson wrote: »

There is just a shocking amount of buttons full stop. I’ve got a top spec GX5hs and it has blanks too. The interior is just a bit of a letdown. There is no on screen controls a la iDrive, and the satnav is a bit of a disaster, but it’s well speced, comfortable and cheap to run (assuming your commute is within EV range)

How is the satnav a disaster when it runs off apple carplay/android auto?

stimpson · 26-03-2019 11:24am

duploelabs wrote: »

How is the satnav a disaster when it runs off apple carplay/android auto?

Only the later models have carplay/andriod auto. From 2017 onwards I think, and initially it was the base model only. I'm tempted to go aftermarket, even if I lose some of eco info.

unkel · 26-03-2019 6:57pm

stimpson wrote: »

Only the later models have carplay/andriod auto. From 2017 onwards I think, and initially it was the base model only. I'm tempted to go aftermarket

Big benefit of going aftermarket is that you can use Android Auto wirelessly (from Android 9 / Pie) if you get a unit supporting this

My Ioniq comes with Android Auto / Apple Carplay as standard, but I don't use it. I have refused to plug my phone into anything for many years now, unless I absolutely have to

Shefwedfan · 26-03-2019 7:06pm

unkel wrote: »

Big benefit of going aftermarket is that you can use Android Auto wirelessly (from Android 9 / Pie) if you get a unit supporting this

My Ioniq comes with Android Auto / Apple Carplay as standard, but I don't use it. I have refused to plug my phone into anything for many years now, unless I absolutely have to

Will carplay and auto only work when plugging in phone? I thought it would work over bluetooth?

stimpson · 26-03-2019 8:06pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Will carplay and auto only work when plugging in phone? I thought it would work over bluetooth?

It works on some headunits.

unkel · 26-03-2019 9:46pm

stimpson wrote: »

It works on some headunits.

Not in any EV in any standard headunit afaik. But you can get aftermarket units. Mind I'm only commenting on Android Auto, I don't know anything about Apples

dashoonage · 12-04-2019 7:12pm

This has prob been asked at some point but what are these like on juice on long spins using the petrol engine ?

stimpson · 12-04-2019 7:21pm

dashoonage wrote: »

This has prob been asked at some point but what are these like on juice on long spins using the petrol engine ?

35-40 mpg at 120kph. Worse if you have a heavy right foot. Better if you can charge at your destination.

Ok for occasional use but if you do a lot of long trips you’d be better off with the diesel. Actually you’d be better off with a different diesel. It’s really only worthwhile if the majority of your driving is in town.

My missus does occasional trips down the country with work. My mpg per tank ranges from 40-85 mpg depending on whether she’s been driving or not.

On Wednesday I did 100 miles @95mpg with half a charge in the middle, but half of that was in town.

Gael23 · 12-04-2019 8:06pm

If you run out of battery in a PHEV can you keep going on petrol power?

stimpson · 12-04-2019 8:08pm

Gael23 wrote: »

If you run out of battery in a PHEV can you keep going on petrol power?

Yes. In the outlander it runs the engine to charge the batteries. At higher speeds it drives the front wheels in addition to charging. It works best of your daily commute is within the EV range.

Gael23 · 12-04-2019 8:18pm

stimpson wrote: »

Yes. In the outlander it runs the engine to charge the batteries. At higher speeds it drives the front wheels in addition to charging. It works best of your daily commute is within the EV range.

Even in the plug in version?

stimpson · 12-04-2019 8:20pm

Gael23 wrote: »

Even in the plug in version?

Only in the Plugin version. The other one is a conventional diesel.

dashoonage · 13-04-2019 7:26am

My daily commute is about 50k with no charging options at work. Mostly motorway or heavy traffic slow moving N roads

stimpson · 13-04-2019 2:41pm

dashoonage wrote: »

My daily commute is about 50k with no charging options at work. Mostly motorway or heavy traffic slow moving N roads

Using Save mode on the motorway and battery in traffic should get you reasonable mileage if you know how to drive it. I’d say <4l/100km is possible.

biko · 14-04-2019 1:02pm

I recommend to check the many reviews on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmm_EfmjtwA

ELM327 · 16-04-2019 9:23am

Gael23 wrote: »

If you run out of battery in a PHEV can you keep going on petrol power?

No, you need to add a concentrated mix of toluene and triple distilled sodium benzoate to the battery. Make sure to add the liquid before the battery reaches 0% charge or you'll be stranded.

Shefwedfan · 16-04-2019 9:58am

biko wrote: »

I recommend to check the many reviews on youtube

So with nearly no battery charging the car can do 37.5MPG which is 7.6ltr/100km

Not too bad.....

olearydc · 16-04-2019 10:29am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So with nearly no battery charging the car can do 37.5MPG which is 7.6ltr/100km

Not too bad.....

Just to let you know, My father bought a new Outlander a few months back and we have been testing/learning

Going from Cork to Dublin via motorway (doing 120 most of the way)
From Cork, with a full charge, we averaged around 7.1
From Dublin to Cork, we did not charge it and just drove down we got 7.6

Outside of these types of long trips, my father has only filled the small tank once in 5 weeks - he has a charger at home and every night plugs in it (mostly every night!) and finds he is getting 25 miles if needed each day with the option to drive it as a normal hybrid outside of this

Great car - -would love one myself

stimpson · 16-04-2019 10:35am

Some real world data - my monthly mileage figures from PHEV Watchdog app. It varies a fair bit when the wife goes down the country with work, but it's still averaging better than my old toyota hybrid (5.5l/100km)

Shefwedfan · 16-04-2019 10:50am

Sorry for asking stupid question, how big is the boot on these things? decent I had always thought but someone said it was small

stimpson · 16-04-2019 11:19am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry for asking stupid question, how big is the boot on these things? decent I had always thought but someone said it was small

It's a full size SUV, so the boot is a good size. The Diesel comes with 7 seats, so the boot is likely not great with all seats in use.

ELM327 · 16-04-2019 11:20am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry for asking stupid question, how big is the boot on these things? decent I had always thought but someone said it was small

I mean, it's no octavia

Shefwedfan · 16-04-2019 11:21am

ELM327 wrote: »

I mean, it's no octavia

Or Superb

stimpson · 16-04-2019 11:21am

ELM327 wrote: »

I mean, it's no octavia

Did you forget to take your anti-sarcasm pills this morning?

ELM327 · 16-04-2019 11:28am

stimpson wrote: »

Did you forget to take your anti-sarcasm pills this morning?

Oh. an anti sarcasm pill.
I can detect a million uses for that.

biko · 16-04-2019 11:43am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sorry for asking stupid question, how big is the boot on these things? decent I had always thought but someone said it was small

Google tells me it's 463 litres when I googled "outlander phev boot space"
The diesel is apparently 591 litres.

I have one and the boot is big enough for anything you can think of.

You can see the floor raised here to allow for battery space, this is the reason there are not an additional 2 seats in rear
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Shefwedfan · 16-04-2019 11:51am

biko wrote: »

Google tells me it's 463 litres when I googled "outlander phev boot space"
The diesel is apparently 591 litres.

I have one and the boot is big enough for anything you can think of.

You can see the floor raised here to allow for battery space, this is the reason there are not an additional 2 seats in rear

Use your imagination :-)

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stimpson · 16-04-2019 11:56am

biko wrote: »

Google tells me it's 463 litres when I googled "outlander phev boot space"
The diesel is apparently 591 litres.

I have one and the boot is big enough for anything you can think of.

You can see the floor raised here to allow for battery space, this is the reason there are not an additional 2 seats in rear

If you pop the seat bases up before dropping the seat backs then it’s a flat load area all the way to the front seats.

ELM327 · 16-04-2019 12:00pm

One of my favorite things about the PHEV is that it still retains the cupholders in the boot for the non-existent third row

So if you're carrying a dog/cat/mother in law in the boot then they can have a drink.

KaneToad · 16-04-2019 12:05pm

ELM327 wrote: »

One of my favorite things about the PHEV is that it still retains the cupholders in the boot for the non-existent third row

So if you're carrying a dog/cat/mother in law in the boot then they can have a drink.

Don't forget kidnap victims!

Shefwedfan · 16-04-2019 12:09pm

ELM327 wrote: »

One of my favorite things about the PHEV is that it still retains the cupholders in the boot for the non-existent third row

So if you're carrying a dog/cat/mother in law in the boot then they can have a drink.

Do I need to repost my image above:P

duploelabs · 16-04-2019 1:34pm

biko wrote: »

Google tells me it's 463 litres when I googled "outlander phev boot space"
The diesel is apparently 591 litres.

I have one and the boot is big enough for anything you can think of.

You can see the floor raised here to allow for battery space, this is the reason there are not an additional 2 seats in rear

Anyone know how the boot space is compared to the RAV4 hybrid?

biko · 16-04-2019 2:08pm

duploelabs wrote: »

Anyone know how the boot space is compared to the RAV4 hybrid?

Google tells me it's 501 litres.
You can find pictures using Google images

ELM327 · 16-04-2019 2:19pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Do I need to repost my image above:P

My mother in law does not look like that. :eek:

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

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