Cuckolds

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 5:26pm

banie01 wrote: »

Will be quite interested to see what he comes back with.
From professional experience I can count on 1 hand the number of paternal applications to be removed from a birth certificate over the last 5/6 yrs, that I've heard about.
Now granted that would be 2nd hand as I don't do family law but briefs do tend to talk shop.
So I'd be very curious to know what his justification is.

He tweeted back a 2020 Budget fact sheet.... :mad:
This is not looking good.

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

Don't talk smack about Beta Ray Bill!!!!!!
He's a Korbinite that can wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir

Somedaythefire · 14-10-2019 5:26pm

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

partyguinness · 14-10-2019 5:28pm

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

I dunno but in "my day" if one of the lads was "not getting any" it certainly was not a term of abuse or ridicule. You just tried harder or put it down to a good old fashioned "barren spell" and went for the old "any port in a storm" motto. Like a striker who is struggling for confidence up front. Keep plugging away.

I guess I am going to have to Google this later. Jaysus this is hurting my head.

banie01 · 14-10-2019 5:30pm

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

He tweeted back a 2020 Budget fact sheet.... :mad:
This is not looking good.

I hope he can send you on a bit more detail.
Its quite a definite statement for him to make on the basis of a guess.

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

Don't talk smack about Beta Ray Bill!!!!!!
He's a Korbinite that can wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir

My mistake on the smack talk then Bill.
Apologies if I am mistaken

14-10-2019 5:33pm

----mostly due to removal of father's details as it was proven the name registered was not that of the actual biological father, cases where the identity of parents needed to be regularised under Irish law, or where other elements needed correction.

There was also a small number of late registrations and according to the report: "There was also an upswing in applications to regularise birth records in the run-up to and following the UK's decision to exit the European Union following the referendum in June 2016."

The corrections are the total of the above, not just when the naughty women were lying wenches.

So when a father was added to a birth cert, where there mistakes in the name of either parent, where the parents identity wasn't clear, nationality issues or some other corrections as well as the deceiving wench scenario.

Not that any lying deceiving wench scenario at all is acceptable, just that it's not quite the doomsday scenario painted in the OP. Would be interesting to see a breakdown all the same.

The OP removed all that context when he cut the paragraph short so it looked like there was only one explanation.

banie01 · 14-10-2019 5:35pm

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

It's easier to blame the world, your upbringing, the opposite gender, "successful" Alphas (Not that I know what one of them is

) it's all about external blame when perhaps a little introspection and self improvement might go a long way to turning round.
Have a couple of friends who become quite vocal about how the world fúcked 'em over after a few drinks

partyguinness wrote: »

I dunno but in "my day" if one of the lads was "not getting any" it certainly was not a term of abuse or ridicule. You just tried harder or put it down to a good old fashioned "barren spell" and went for the old "any port in a storm" motto. Like a striker who is struggling for confidence up front. Keep plugging away.

I guess I am going to have to Google this later. Jaysus this is hurting my head.

There's a whole sub Reddit on the redpill and MGTOW.
I useta think MGTOW was a wire guided missile....
I was wrong

It really is quite disturbing what passes as normal and acceptable thinking on those places.

Reviews and Books Galore · 14-10-2019 5:39pm

Lads, if your complaining about being a beta then be the beta to multiple women. Simple.

Reviews and Books Galore · 14-10-2019 5:40pm

banie01 wrote: »

It's easier to blame the world, your upbringing, the opposite gender, "successful" Alphas (Not that I know what one of them is ) it's all about external blame when perhaps a little introspection and self improvement might go a long way to turning round.
Have a couple of friends who become quite vocal about how the world fúcked 'em over after a few drinks

There's a whole sub Reddit on the redpill and MGTOW.
I useta think MGTOW was a wire guided missile....
I was wrong
It really is quite disturbing what passes as normal and acceptable thinking on those places.

Yeah, the dred pill is pretty toxic. It has like a small amount of truth, but it's been twisted in such a way that I genuinely suspect it's a form of psyops or something.

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 5:41pm

ITS F*CKING BALLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/GROAnnualReport-2018.pdf

In addition to the corrections noted in Table 4, 264 additional birth records were
amended following a statutory enquiry conducted under section 65 of the Civil
Registration Act 2004. Statutory enquiries are undertaken where an error, omission or
other difficulty with a registration is identified which cannot be corrected under any other
provision of the Act. The following types of cases accounted for the majority of the
matters determined:
 Applications to remove the father’s details as it was proven that the man
registered as the father was not the biological father of the child;
 Cases where the identity of the parents requires to be regularised under Irish law;
and
 Where the registration particulars, typically historic, require correction.

FAKE F**KING NEWS!!!

264 amendments were needed divided among those last 3 points!

MOD's can this be locked please, before I die of anymore embarrassment?

Bobblehats · 14-10-2019 5:42pm

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

Outraged, and feeling feint. Better take my incelin

Mango Joe · 14-10-2019 5:47pm

partyguinness wrote: »

I was thinking just the same earlier.

What the hell is all this "incel" about? Is it what we called a frustrated "can't get any" lad in the old days? All a bit juvenile.

So basically it is a term of abuse?

No....There's a nuance there you see.... They are involuntary celibates BUT its not their fault... Its more a case of the world conspiring against them.

Pretty, popular girls, or as they call them "Stacys", don't appreciate their intelligence, particular personalities and suave charms.

Guys that get girls are "Chads" who are beneath their contempt.

The target females are routinely duped into voluntarily partaking in sexual activity by these evil Chads and it all just escalates from there into a maelstrom of discontent and outward looking accusatory loathing.

Critically introspection never plays a role here. This is key.

This is a real thing and it can unfortunately escalate - Elliot Rodger is a case worth reading about https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189

banie01 · 14-10-2019 5:49pm

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

ITS F*CKING BALLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/GROAnnualReport-2018.pdf

FAKE F**KING NEWS!!!

264 amendments were needed divided among those last 3 points!

MOD's can this be locked please, before I die of anymore embarrassment?

Kudos on holding your hands up.
Researching and realizing the foundation of an argument is weak is something that all too often gets forgotten on the auld interwebs

I hope I can be as gracious when next I'm mistaken.

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 5:50pm

Mango Joe wrote: »

No....There's a nuance there you see.... They are involuntary celibates BUT its not their fault... Its more a case of the world conspiring against them.

Pretty, popular girls don't appreciate their intelligence, particular personalities and suave charms.

Guys that get girls are Brads and Chads who are beneath their contempt.

The target females are routinely duped into voluntarily partaking in sexual activity by these evil Brads and Chads and it all just escalates from there into a maelstrom of discontent and outward looking accusatory loathing.

Critically introspection never plays a role here. This is key.

You forgot about:
Sexy girls = Stacie's

And also Becky's
They hate Becky's

banie01 · 14-10-2019 5:50pm

Bobblehats wrote: »

Outraged, and feeling feint. Better take my incelin

As a diabetic I'm appalled!!!!
Is that what i've been taking all these years :P :pac:

Definite pun of the year contender!

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 5:51pm

banie01 wrote: »

Kudos on holding your hands up.
Researching and realizing the foundation of an argument is weak is something that all too often gets forgotten on the auld interwebs

I hope I can be as gracious when next I'm mistaken.

It was reported on the Irish Examiner.
They're usually ok.

Ugh.

topper75 · 14-10-2019 5:55pm

Jimmy Soul nailed this problem back in the day:

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Bobblehats · 14-10-2019 5:59pm

banie01 wrote: »

As a diabetic I'm appalled!!!!
Is that what i've been taking all these years :P :pac:

I can’t say for certain ask ray to read the label.

He’s a beta man than me

banie01 · 14-10-2019 6:02pm

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

It was reported on the Irish Examiner.
They're usually ok.

Ugh.

Its a sad reflection of the world that the presentation of news and "facts" is as much driven by agenda as the actual facts presented.

The presentation of that article tried very much to direct a line of thinking without any actual evidence to support its main thesis.

Look, i will say this for you.
You tried to track the data the journalist relied on, when it was spurious you tracked down the source data and you owned your mistake.
I mean after you went and struck through your O.P rather than deleting it, I went back and clicked thanks on it.

All news is IMO at least presented through the lens of what those providing want to direct your thinking towards.
Where that gets scary is when those directing the news cycle are far cleverer than we in all our liberal openness like to think we are.

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 6:04pm

I called him out on it!

https://twitter.com/Graham60574245/status/1183790066134650880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Idiot!
He needs to do better as a reporter!

Fornevermore · 14-10-2019 6:05pm

You can only laugh at the pathetic incels really. Only then you remember how many killings and rapes they are responsible for.

blinding · 14-10-2019 6:06pm

Its a terrible thing to do to a man . Some women are capable of very low behaviour .

14-10-2019 6:07pm

Fornevermore wrote: »

You can only laugh at the pathetic incels really. Only then you remember how many killings and rapes they are responsible for.

Oh, oh, oh!

I know what you're doing!

I see you.

Fornevermore · 14-10-2019 6:09pm

Candie wrote: »

Oh, oh, oh!

I know what you're doing!

I see you.

Hello! Are you an incel?

14-10-2019 6:13pm

Fornevermore wrote: »

Hello! Are you an incel?

The very worst kind

a pregnant one

Fornevermore · 14-10-2019 6:14pm

Candie wrote: »

The very worst kind

a pregnant one

:eek: Is that what the incels are into now?

Bobblehats · 14-10-2019 6:20pm

I’m a duracel I’m commited.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-10-2019 6:22pm

Fun fact, the person who originally started the incel label and community was a woman, it was a college society/support group.

She got disillusioned by it, felt it was attracting toxic people and that it was actually enabling people to wallow and be totally resigned to their situation. Walked away from it and assumed it would just die off naturally, didn't give it much more thought.

Next time she heard the term was years later on news reports about Elliot Rodgers :eek:

EmmetSpiceland · 14-10-2019 7:05pm

There’s a simple way to stop your partner “straying” and it’s to pay them some “attention”.

I’ve mentioned it on here before but an old man, who had a reputation as a bit of a “cad” told me the key to keeping your woman true was to “keep ‘em licked and keep ‘em dicked”.

He’d been with countless married women and said it was always the same, the husband hardly noticed them anymore so made it, incredibly, easy for him to slip in and fill the “void”, no pun intended.

I wouldn’t be surprised if affairs were on the increase these days. I mean, you’ve got grown men, with kids, coming home from work and heading out to their “man cave” or going on the PlayStation until all hours while their partner is left cleaning up and looking after those kids.

Hardly surprising she’d get her head “turned” by some young buck in the office or through a random online “encounter”.

blinding · 14-10-2019 7:18pm

I think DNA checks should be just standard procedure on every New Born Baby .

Every one has the right to know who their true parents are .

Jonybgud · 14-10-2019 7:28pm

blinding wrote: »

All men should have DNA checks on their supposed children .

Why make such a commitment unless you are 100% sure that these children are certainly yours .

Its not like you can trust women on such matters .

Arn't you a great bundle of fun?

All seven of my children have my looks, whether they like it or not, my wife didn't get a look in to either of her two.

Woke Hogan · 14-10-2019 7:28pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

There’s a simple way to stop your partner “straying” and it’s to pay them some “attention”.

I’ve mentioned it on here before but an old man, who had a reputation as a bit of a “cad” told me the key to keeping your woman true was to “keep ‘em licked and keep ‘em dicked”.

He’d been with countless married women and said it was always the same, the husband hardly noticed them anymore so made it, incredibly, easy for him to slip in and fill the “void”, no pun intended.

I wouldn’t be surprised if affairs were on the increase these days. I mean, you’ve got grown men, with kids, coming home from work and heading out to their “man cave” or going on the PlayStation until all hours while their partner is left cleaning up and looking after those kids.

Hardly surprising she’d get her head “turned” by some young buck in the office or through a random online “encounter”.

Imagine someone actually escaping to a “man cave” in the evenings. Playing Nintendo and masturbating to She Hulk drawings, their wives knocking on the door to deliver a little carton of orange juice before she goes out for a “service” by a real man.

Beta Ray Bill · 14-10-2019 7:36pm

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Imagine someone actually escaping to a “man cave” in the evenings. Playing Nintendo and masturbating to She Hulk drawings, their wives knocking on the door to deliver a little carton of orange juice before she goes out for a “service” by a real man.

That's litterally my dream.
Big gaf
Loads of bikes
Man cave
And I could probably make room for a woman that's into man caves and bikes

Fourier · 14-10-2019 7:44pm

Well what I take the report to say is as follows.
There were 3,842 amendments to birth certs.

Of those 264 were due to legal action falling under section 65 of the Civil Registration Act 2004.

Of those 264 the majority were due to the combination of all three factors, i.e.:

Applications to remove the father’s details as it was proven that the man registered as the father was not the biological father of the child;
Cases where the identity of the parents requires to be regularised under Irish law; and
Where the registration particulars, typically historic, require correction.

So all it is saying is that these three combined are at least 50% of 264 corrections falling under section 65.

Thus we might estimate 66 such false paternal cases. Not 3,842.

Woke Hogan · 14-10-2019 7:48pm

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

That's litterally my dream.
Big gaf
Loads of bikes
Man cave
And I could probably make room for a woman that's into man caves and bikes

You’ll have to take the “no girls allowed” sign off the door for when she does come over, delivering your milk and cookies.

99nsr125 · 14-10-2019 7:59pm

Wibbs wrote: »

+1. Somebody does the dirt on you and brings a kid that isn't yours into the equation(and I'd bet the farm it wasn't some random one night thing), and you go "I'll support you now"? There are plenty of women, the vast majority who wouldn't dream of doing anything like this, so why stay with some bow legged slapper? Nice guy? Damned fool IMHO.

Omg

Females have been doing this in every form forever

Nab a good provider then ride away

EmmetSpiceland · 14-10-2019 8:19pm

Woke Hogan wrote: »

Imagine someone actually escaping to a “man cave” in the evenings. Playing Nintendo and masturbating to She Hulk drawings, their wives knocking on the door to deliver a little carton of orange juice before she goes out for a “service” by a real man.

Nail on the head there, W.

It’s like they haven’t let go of the “Saturday mornings on the couch watching cartoons” thing. Not sure if those of your “vintage” did that but you have kids so you know how it goes. Wouldn’t fancy seeing them still acting like that when they were in their 30s.

You’re in work all day, you’d think you’d want to spend a little time with the family. It’s all a bit sad, in both “senses” of the word.

Shuffling off into the “man cave” to watch those Japanese manga cartoons or playing soldiers on the computer console and, then, rounding the day off by furiously **** over some extreme niche pornography.

You’d have to wonder what their poor partner thinks as they slump into the bed and turn over to go to sleep. The “apnoea” machine buzzing loudly.

Woke Hogan · 14-10-2019 8:22pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Nail on the head there, W.

It’s like they haven’t let go of the “Saturday mornings on the couch watching cartoons” thing. Not sure if those of your “vintage” did that but you have kids so you know how it goes. Wouldn’t fancy seeing them still acting like that when they were in their 30s.

You’re in work all day, you’d think you’d want to spend a little time with the family. It’s all a bit sad, in both “senses” of the word.

Shuffling off into the “man cave” to watch those Japanese manga cartoons or playing soldiers on the computer console and, then, rounding the day off by furiously **** over some extreme niche pornography.

You’d have to wonder what their poor partner thinks as they slump into the bed and turn over to go to sleep. The “apnoea” machine buzzing loudly.

You seem to have accidentally posted an extract from your autobiography.

banie01 · 14-10-2019 8:26pm

Fourier wrote: »

Well what I take the report to say is as follows.
There were 3,842 amendments to birth certs.

Of those 264 were due to legal action falling under section 65 of the Civil Registration Act 2004.

Of those 264 the majority were due to the combination of all three factors, i.e.:
Applications to remove the father’s details as it was proven that the man registered as the father was not the biological father of the child;

Cases where the identity of the parents requires to be regularised under Irish law; and

Where the registration particulars, typically historic, require correction.

So all it is saying is that these three combined are at least 50% of 264 corrections falling under section 65.

Thus we might estimate 66 such false paternal cases. Not 3,842.

Fourier...
You and your damned big brain going and doing the math for him

Seriously tho...
That is what an analytical mind can grasp from limited data.
It really is fascinating.

banie01 · 14-10-2019 8:29pm

Woke Hogan wrote: »

You’ll have to take the “no girls allowed” sign off the door for when she does come over, delivering your milk and cookies.

Hold up...
1st off noone **** over she-hulk!
Hentai tentacle porn is what all the cool guys tug over

And I have to ditch my man-cave?
Can she at least keep her she-shed?

Is it ok if we bang in the she-shed still?

hatrickpatrick · 14-10-2019 8:47pm

I've always thought DNA testing should be mandatory, no human should ever be expected to trust another human based on nothing but blind faith over something so life changingly important. But I'm saying that as someone who's been f*cked over several times by people I would have trusted with my life, so in my current psyche there's just no room for that anymore. If you're someone who thinks that such testing is unreasonable, then you're someone who's never had firsthand experience of the person you trust most in the world sticking a knife in your back, and all I can say is fair play, you've evaded one of life's worst experiences and may you continue to do so.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-10-2019 8:56pm

Or someone who thinks the risk of every single person in the country being required at some point to give a DNA sample to a government body outweighs the benefits of the few dozen to couple hundred cases of paternity fraud every year. Quite a bit of naivety and under-rock-living required to think that's reasonable, or to not foresee the dangerous lengths people will obviously go to avoid it.

s7ryf3925pivug · 14-10-2019 9:00pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I've always thought DNA testing should be mandatory, no human should ever be expected to trust another human based on nothing but blind faith over something so life changingly important. But I'm saying that as someone who's been f*cked over several times by people I would have trusted with my life, so in my current psyche there's just no room for that anymore. If you're someone who thinks that such testing is unreasonable, then you're someone who's never had firsthand experience of the person you trust most in the world sticking a knife in your back, and all I can say is fair play, you've evaded one of life's worst experiences and may you continue to do so.

Never going to be mandatory, very authoritarian idea that no politician would push. It could become the social norm though. Harmony test and paternity test should be just default actions.

hatrickpatrick · 14-10-2019 9:08pm

Luka Ashy Can wrote: »

Or someone who thinks the risk of every single person in the country being required at some point to give a DNA sample to a government body outweighs the benefits of the few dozen to couple hundred cases of paternity fraud every year. Quite a bit of naivety and under-rock-living required to think that's reasonable, or to not foresee the dangerous lengths people will obviously go to avoid it.

That's totally reasonable, and obviously I would argue that such samples would have to be destroyed immediately after the testing. I was thinking more of those who oppose it not on data protection grounds but on "you should just trust your partner not to be lying to you" grounds, which is what most people cite in opposition to default paternity testing. If you've been through the kind of sh!t I and many other people have been through when it comes to those closest to you stabbing you in the back, you will never, ever "just trust" somebody again. No matter how much you love them. And in my view, society shouldn't require you to as a prerequisite for anything.

Cuckolds

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