Cuckolds

Somedaythefire

What’s up with the thread title? It has nothing to do with the content.

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

"Mostly" could be 51%, its a bit of a stretch when the article is vague to say they are all down to this.

Your calculations then become much more guestimate to sound worse then it is. Also you are really cherry picking the wording to support your idea.

Mostly could be a lot less than 51% as long as it’s the most common cause.

Wibbs

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

I don't know why you are using a word from Shakespeare. I can't understand why this has become popular again. its weird.

Seems to be a porn thing from what I can tell, specifically American smut, where there appear to be enough viewers, particularly when the other guy involved is a Black lad with a tree trunk mickey, to sustain enough interest in producing the stuff. That and shagging family members. It seems to have broken out from that into "Red Pill" and even US political witterings, where "cuck" is a popular insult, along with lashings of "No homo" in case anybody might think you play for the other team. Freud would have a bloody field day with some aspects of current American culture.

banie01

mikhail wrote: »

Fair enough, except that it was Beta Ray Bill who did the cherry picking in the first post in the thread.

Fair ****s to you for avoiding the swear filter like that, ya rebel.

Thanks got to love a fadá in a bind!
And yep it's Bills point, and you ran with it without checking the context.
Its a bit of a cop out to blame Beta Bill now when you jumped on his wagon.

Beta Ray Bill

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

"Mostly" could be 51%, its a bit of a stretch when the article is vague to say they are all down to this.

Your calculations then become much more guestimate to sound worse then it is. Also you are really cherry picking the wording to support your idea.

In fairness
I'm trying to find the actual report online and I can't.
This could all be a load of ballix and I've just spread a bunch of fake news

mikhail

partyguinness wrote: »

I did read at one stage that as a rough guesstimate anything from 10-20% of fathers are bringing up children that are not biologically belong to them as in unbeknownst.

I think the origins of figures over 10% are from a study in the 70s that was never published. Most modern studies suggest the right answer is closer to a tenth of that rate.

Wibbs

partyguinness wrote: »

I did read at one stage that as a rough guesstimate anything from 10-20% of fathers are bringing up children that are not biologically belong to them as in unbeknownst.

Very spurious percentages indeed. The numbers came from court/divorce cases where parentage was already in question and DNA tests were ordered and even then the figure was closer to 10%. In the real world it's likely to be far lower.

partyguinness

mikhail wrote: »

I think the origins of figures over 10% are from a study in the 70s that was never published. Most modern studies suggest the right answer is closer to a tenth of that rate.

I imagine that there are certain societies around the world where the figure will be higher but that does seem unbelievably high and well, not credible.

mikhail

banie01 wrote: »

Thanks got to love a fadá in a bind!
And yep it's Bills point, and you ran with it without checking the context.
Its a bit of a cop out to blame Beta Bill now when you jumped on his wagon.

Jumped on his wagon? I questioned your completely unsupported counterpoint and pathetic attempt to troll. That the OP turns out to be no better than you hardly places you on a pedestal.

Beta Ray Bill

Actually.....

How many of the Cuckoo fathers have families of their own, and were playing offside with a woman that is also in a relationship with kids and stuff, and got her preggers!???
Two to tango and all that jazz!

Also now that abortion is accessible, you'd hopefully see a decline in these kind of stats.

Reviews and Books Galore

There is an oddly high statistic in America about this. I don't remember what it I'd, but it is sadly high.

s7ryf3925pivug

Depends on when you find out. If you find out your kid is someone else's, you still love the kid. Same way as a kid who finds out they're adopted still loves their adoptive parents. As a man you are at a major disadvantage in keeping custody or staying in your own home if you split up with their mother. So you don't have many options at that point.

If the kid isn't on the scene yet though yeah you're just a fool

banie01

mikhail wrote: »

Jumped on his wagon? I questioned your completely unsupported counterpoint and pathetic attempt to troll. That the OP turns out to be no better than you hardly places you on a pedestal.

I don't want a pedestal, so you can stay where you are.
There was no attempt to troll, if the OP has an issue with how I described him, I'm happy to discuss it with our resident Beta.

And yeah you did jump on a bandwagon, one that reading the article would have led you to at least query.

Reviews and Books Galore

banie01 wrote: »

A correction on a Birth cert is far more likely to be addition of a father's name rather than its amendment to a different one.

But that wouldn't gel as well with the incel agenda now would it

What's with this incel.malarky? It seems to be the common insult to regulate men nowadays.

banie01

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

Actually.....

How many of the Cuckoo fathers have families of their own, and were playing offside with a woman that is also in a relationship with kids and stuff, and got her preggers!???
Two to tango and all that jazz!

Also now that abortion is accessible, you'd hopefully see a decline in these kind of stats.

You have yet to present any stats?
None!

A headline number, with no breakdown of how the numbers were arrived at in any meaningful way other than the actual number of live births.
Along with the number of amendments that relate to an indefinite time period.

Unless and until a breakdown is available any musings on what caused the necessity for an amendment is just speculation.

Beta Ray Bill

banie01 wrote: »

You have yet to present any stats?
None!

A headline number, with no breakdown of how the numbers were arrived at in any meaningful way other than the actual number of live births.
Along with the number of amendments that relate to an indefinite time period.

Unless and until a breakdown is available any musings on what caused the necessity for an amendment is just speculation.

I asked Noel Baker where he got the report from on Twitter.
Cause I can't find the thing anywhere

Somedaythefire

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

What's with this incel.malarky? It seems to be the common insult to regulate men nowadays.

Incel is “involuntary celibate”. They usually give themselves that label.

banie01

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

I asked Noel Baker where he got the report from on Twitter.
Cause I can't find the thing anywhere

Will be quite interested to see what he comes back with.
From professional experience I can count on 1 hand the number of paternal applications to be removed from a birth certificate over the last 5/6 yrs, that I've heard about.
Now granted that would be 2nd hand as I don't do family law but briefs do tend to talk shop.
So I'd be very curious to know what his justification is.

Will I Am Not

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

What's with this incel.malarky? It seems to be the common insult to regulate men nowadays.

Funnily enough, the people using it are quite often neckbeardy, virginal, creepy male feminist types.

partyguinness

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

What's with this incel.malarky? It seems to be the common insult to regulate men nowadays.

I was thinking just the same earlier.

What the hell is all this "incel" about? Is it what we called a frustrated "can't get any" lad in the old days? All a bit juvenile.

So basically it is a term of abuse?

banie01

partyguinness wrote: »

I was thinking just the same earlier.

What the hell is all this "incel" about? Is it what we called a frustrated "can't get any" lad in the old days? All a bit juvenile.

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

Beta Ray Bill

banie01 wrote: »

Will be quite interested to see what he comes back with.
From professional experience I can count on 1 hand the number of paternal applications to be removed from a birth certificate over the last 5/6 yrs, that I've heard about.
Now granted that would be 2nd hand as I don't do family law but briefs do tend to talk shop.
So I'd be very curious to know what his justification is.

He tweeted back a 2020 Budget fact sheet.... :mad:
This is not looking good.

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

Don't talk smack about Beta Ray Bill!!!!!!
He's a Korbinite that can wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir

Somedaythefire

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

partyguinness

banie01 wrote: »

Agreed, but it's moving from not being able to get any.
To not being able to get any because Women are all into "Alpha" and alpha males are cuckolding all the hard working "Beta" males...
Which funnily enough ties in with the OPs username.

I dunno but in "my day" if one of the lads was "not getting any" it certainly was not a term of abuse or ridicule. You just tried harder or put it down to a good old fashioned "barren spell" and went for the old "any port in a storm" motto. Like a striker who is struggling for confidence up front. Keep plugging away.

I guess I am going to have to Google this later. Jaysus this is hurting my head.

banie01

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

He tweeted back a 2020 Budget fact sheet.... :mad:
This is not looking good.

I hope he can send you on a bit more detail.
Its quite a definite statement for him to make on the basis of a guess.

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

Don't talk smack about Beta Ray Bill!!!!!!
He's a Korbinite that can wield Stormbreaker and Mjolnir

My mistake on the smack talk then Bill.
Apologies if I am mistaken

----mostly due to removal of father's details as it was proven the name registered was not that of the actual biological father, cases where the identity of parents needed to be regularised under Irish law, or where other elements needed correction.

There was also a small number of late registrations and according to the report: "There was also an upswing in applications to regularise birth records in the run-up to and following the UK's decision to exit the European Union following the referendum in June 2016."

The corrections are the total of the above, not just when the naughty women were lying wenches.

So when a father was added to a birth cert, where there mistakes in the name of either parent, where the parents identity wasn't clear, nationality issues or some other corrections as well as the deceiving wench scenario.

Not that any lying deceiving wench scenario at all is acceptable, just that it's not quite the doomsday scenario painted in the OP. Would be interesting to see a breakdown all the same.

The OP removed all that context when he cut the paragraph short so it looked like there was only one explanation.

banie01

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

It's easier to blame the world, your upbringing, the opposite gender, "successful" Alphas (Not that I know what one of them is ) it's all about external blame when perhaps a little introspection and self improvement might go a long way to turning round.
Have a couple of friends who become quite vocal about how the world fúcked 'em over after a few drinks

partyguinness wrote: »

I dunno but in "my day" if one of the lads was "not getting any" it certainly was not a term of abuse or ridicule. You just tried harder or put it down to a good old fashioned "barren spell" and went for the old "any port in a storm" motto. Like a striker who is struggling for confidence up front. Keep plugging away.

I guess I am going to have to Google this later. Jaysus this is hurting my head.

There's a whole sub Reddit on the redpill and MGTOW.
I useta think MGTOW was a wire guided missile....
I was wrong
It really is quite disturbing what passes as normal and acceptable thinking on those places.

Reviews and Books Galore

Lads, if your complaining about being a beta then be the beta to multiple women. Simple.

Reviews and Books Galore

banie01 wrote: »

It's easier to blame the world, your upbringing, the opposite gender, "successful" Alphas (Not that I know what one of them is ) it's all about external blame when perhaps a little introspection and self improvement might go a long way to turning round.
Have a couple of friends who become quite vocal about how the world fúcked 'em over after a few drinks



There's a whole sub Reddit on the redpill and MGTOW.
I useta think MGTOW was a wire guided missile....
I was wrong
It really is quite disturbing what passes as normal and acceptable thinking on those places.

Yeah, the dred pill is pretty toxic. It has like a small amount of truth, but it's been twisted in such a way that I genuinely suspect it's a form of psyops or something.

Beta Ray Bill

ITS F*CKING BALLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/GROAnnualReport-2018.pdf

In addition to the corrections noted in Table 4, 264 additional birth records were
amended following a statutory enquiry conducted under section 65 of the Civil
Registration Act 2004. Statutory enquiries are undertaken where an error, omission or
other difficulty with a registration is identified which cannot be corrected under any other
provision of the Act. The following types of cases accounted for the majority of the
matters determined:
 Applications to remove the father’s details as it was proven that the man
registered as the father was not the biological father of the child;
 Cases where the identity of the parents requires to be regularised under Irish law;
and
 Where the registration particulars, typically historic, require correction.

FAKE F**KING NEWS!!!

264 amendments were needed divided among those last 3 points!

MOD's can this be locked please, before I die of anymore embarrassment?

Bobblehats

Somedaythefire wrote: »

That’s always been a part of “incel”. The alpha, beta this was always “the reason” they’re “incels”. Not because they’re thoroughly unlikable people with awful personalities, but because women “only like alphas”.

Outraged, and feeling feint. Better take my incelin