Racist Abuse?

Gatling · 13-10-2019 9:54pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Offer him to the car park, guaranteed he won't follow you out.

He might think it's his lucky night

Doctors room ghost · 13-10-2019 9:54pm

You had right to say “I hope you and John Bull starve after brexit you ignor fcukin amos”.

Sleeper12 · 13-10-2019 9:55pm

anewme wrote:

One English person in the group pipes up with..â€oh, are you not still all on donkeys?â€

I could make the same comment about Kerry people. It's would be a stupid ignorant comment but not racist.

On the grand scheme of things it's not that long ago that we were on donkeys. We were on donkeys in many parts of Ireland in the 60s and it wasn't uncommon to see the in the 70s. This was decades after the donkeys vanashed from most of England. This is why comments like this ring true to someone with little knowledge about Ireland. Believe it or not lots of people from other countries think that we believe in fairy's and leprechauns. Its not racist its ignorance

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 9:55pm

anewme wrote: »

Made me laugh.

I most certainly will not!!!

He will think I’m offering him a favour!!

The modern way is to trick him into giving you his online contact details, and lots of people will offer to come round to his house to kill him and rape his family.

Raconteuse · 13-10-2019 9:59pm

Gatling wrote: »

Don't cry.

Most Irish people have a sense of humour

You're the one who's crying. It wasn't a joke. Context.

But yeah lots of Irish people are indeed very self flagellating.

anewme · 13-10-2019 9:59pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I could make the same comment about Kerry people. It's would be a stupid ignorant comment but not racist.

On the grand scheme of things it's not that long ago that we were on donkeys. We were on donkeys in many parts of Ireland in the 60s and it wasn't uncommon to see the in the 70s. This was decades after the donkeys vanashed from most of England. This is why comments like this ring true to someone with little knowledge about Ireland. Believe it or not lots of people from other countries think that we believe in fairy's and leprechauns. Its not racist its ignorance

But would you actually say that in Company to a person from Kerry that you never met before?

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 10:00pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

You're the one who's crying. It wasn't a joke. Context.

But yeah lots of Irish people are indeed very self flagellating.

You would probably have to pay good money to get someone else to do it.

Redneck Reject · 13-10-2019 10:02pm

To be honest your scumbags need a bit of cultural awareness, I sometimes get called a Paki bastard,yet I'm half Mexican,heh.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 10:05pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

You're the one who's

Not recently registered and offended at someone's who's not offended .

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 10:07pm

It sounds like the holiday to hell. With a "neighbour" from hell. People sometimes say holiday from hell. A holiday from hell would be a nice break.

anewme · 13-10-2019 10:14pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

It sounds like the holiday to hell. With a "neighbour" from hell. People sometimes say holiday from hell. A holiday from hell would be a nice break.

Nope. Everyone else is lovely except him.

He’s been rude to the staff in restaurants, snapping fingers etc, no please or thank you, so he might be just a bit rude in general.

Raconteuse · 13-10-2019 10:17pm

Gatling wrote: »

Not recently registered and offended at someone's who's not offended .

It wasn't a joke.

In a jokey context, most people can of course take a joke.

Don't be one of those Irish people who feels obliged to be ok with prejudice against us.

Panthro · 13-10-2019 10:17pm

He's just an all round prick so.
Everyone in the group probably sees what you see if he's doing that to staff etc.
Ignore the fool.

Sleeper12 · 13-10-2019 10:19pm

anewme wrote:

But would you actually say that in Company to a person from Kerry that you never met before?

If I had a kerry mate obviously I'd have to say it in front of him in banter. If he wasn't a mate I have good manners not to say it to him.

It was an ignorant comment. I can't deny that

anewme · 13-10-2019 10:21pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

If I had a kerry mate obviously I'd have to say it in front of him in banter. If he wasn't a mate I have good manners not to say it to him.

It was an ignorant comment. I can't deny that

I met this person for the first time this morning and these comments were passed this evening at dinner.

shutup · 13-10-2019 10:21pm

anewme wrote: »

I told him I wasn’t putting up with this **** and left the table.

Well that showed him.
You should have said shut your mouth you English ****.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 10:22pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

Don't be one of those Irish people who feels obliged to

be offended .

Nah don't do offended life is for living

Raconteuse · 13-10-2019 10:25pm

Gatling wrote: »

be offended .

Nah don't do offended life is for living

Is simply not seeing something as a joke "offended"?

The word gets misused.

Of course there are things you find rude.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 13-10-2019 10:26pm

Gatling wrote: »

be offended .

Nah don't do offended life is for living

It’s a bit odd not taking offence if people mean to offend you.

NickNickleby · 13-10-2019 10:26pm

Tomorrow will be a new day.

Unfortunately, you're more likely to be called a snowflake than be offered an apology.

"Change the record!" or "its no funnier no matter how often you repeat it". or something equally devastating is your best bet. (that's as devastating as I can muster :eek:).

Try to shift your focus to other members of the group. Only engage with the clown if he's being polite. Now, he might genuinely think its funny and not at all offensive. I've encountered this myself and just gave a pi$$ off response and turned my attention to other members of the group. Think they were mortified for the perpetrator. Of course, you need to be careful. If he's a skinhead, smile politely and agree with him!!

Edgware · 13-10-2019 10:31pm

Gatling wrote: »

Shocking stuff in 2019 !!!

We're only avin a larf Paddy. At least you're not a Kraut

jaxxx · 13-10-2019 10:32pm

Racist? No, he's just an @rsehole.

Edgware · 13-10-2019 10:32pm

shutup wrote: »

Well that showed him.
You should have said shut your mouth you English ****.

Or tell him "It was our lads did the tarmacadam in the tunnel in Paris"

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 10:33pm

Edgware wrote: »

We're only avin a larf Paddy. At least you're not a Kraut

Or a Scouser who would steal the wheels off your car.

Potential-Monke · 13-10-2019 10:33pm

Start tomorrow with nothing but English prejudice, keep it up all day and once he finally snaps, tell him that was but a portion of the 700 years... Am I doing this right?

Sleeper12 · 13-10-2019 10:34pm

anewme wrote:

I met this person for the first time this morning and these comments were passed this evening at dinner.

As I said before ignorant comments. May or May not be racist but definitely ignorant.

I wouldn't let it ruin my day or holiday though. You'll meet plenty of sound English people too

SCOOP 64 · 13-10-2019 10:36pm

Its amazing what can start a whole chat these days.

anewme · 13-10-2019 10:37pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

As I said before ignorant comments. May or May not be racist but definitely ignorant.

I wouldn't let it ruin my day or holiday though. You'll meet plenty of sound English people too

Yep the rest are sound so I don’t want to comment back with anti English comments as they don’t deserve it.

El Tarangu · 13-10-2019 10:38pm

Gatling wrote: »

Generation snowflake .

I remember serving pints in aUK pub wearing a balaclava given to me by a customer as a joke ,
It used to make people actually laugh .

Gatling wrote: »

No it's funny as **** paddy Irish man in the British pub wearing his best balaclava

I'm glad that your tomfoolery provided some diversion for your betters, Tom.

Lewis_Benson · 13-10-2019 10:39pm

Well, considering both you and him are part of the human race, then no it's not racist.

It sounds like a joke to me, and you would be expected to retort with a slagging of your own, it's called having a laugh.

dxhound2005 · 13-10-2019 10:41pm

Here is a joke about a group holiday.

'A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why?" they asked, as they moved off. "because," he said "I can't stand chess nuts boasting in an open foyer." '

freshpopcorn · 13-10-2019 10:48pm

When you stormed off they probably joked you had to leave early because you had to take the horse home because you didn't have a car!

JupiterKid · 13-10-2019 10:50pm

He sounds like an idiotic, ignorant asshole. Just try to ignore his attempts to wind you up.

parc · 13-10-2019 10:51pm

anewme wrote: »

Nope. Everyone else is lovely except him.

He’s been rude to the staff in restaurants, snapping fingers etc, no please or thank you, so he might be just a bit rude in general.

Where's the holiday, just out of interest?

NickNickleby · 13-10-2019 10:52pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

When you stormed off they probably joked you had to leave early because you had to take the horse home because you didn't have a car!

actually, if no one thought of it, anewme could use it first! That would disarm the twit.

" I didn't pay three and a half grand to listen to this ****. I'm off to feed the donkey!" Then later pretend its a real obscure Irish euphemism.

Gatling · 13-10-2019 10:54pm

NickNickleby wrote: »

" I didn't pay three and a half grand to listen to this ****. I'm off to

Boards

BDI · 13-10-2019 10:58pm

I don’t know about donkeys but I bet you were on a singles holiday because you were tired of feeding your pony.

Wat wat, get it feed the pony.

killbillvol2 · 13-10-2019 11:00pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

It’s a bit odd not taking offence if people mean to offend you.

Really?

Why would someone take offence if they place no value on the person attempting to give offence?

I really fear for society if every attempt to offend succeeds because people feel they should be offended.

Not to mention the utter idiots who spend their time being offended for others.

Good luck with your ongoing search for offence.

13-10-2019 11:02pm

“My people have a long, long history of murdering your people”, said deadpan while you lean back in your chair and stare blankly into the bottom of your glass, that should do the trick.

To ignorant fools like him we’re either thick paddies or terrorists. Change the game.

El Tarangu · 13-10-2019 11:08pm

@OP - I too have sometimes come up against this type of thing with Englishmen (invariably English as opposed to the rest of Britain, and invariably men) - the sly dig that can just about be passed off as "banter", the wink and the smirk.

I normally just stare at them for a long beat, and then give an (irritable): "I'm sorry - what?"

This shows them that you don't find it funny, and aren't indulging them. Also, at this point, everyone else in the room is looking at them, and they are unlikely to want to repeat their remark a second time, now that they are the centre of attention. Also, shows that you are unwilling to lower yourself to their level (also tbh it's hard sometimes to think of the witty comeback on the spot, thought it's true that Brexit has made it a lot easier).

parc · 13-10-2019 11:13pm

Sounds like a Jeff from Peep Show type character, except he's from London/Essex?

Am I right?

Where's the holiday btw?

Omackeral · 13-10-2019 11:15pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

It wasn't a joke.

In a jokey context, most people can of course take a joke.

Don't be one of those Irish people who feels obliged to be ok with prejudice against us.

How many potatoes does it take to kill a 19th Century Irish man?

None.

anewme · 13-10-2019 11:19pm

No he’s very upper class English.

Reminds me a bit of Prince Philip...just saying things out.

Holiday in Europe...activity holiday...bit of winter sun ...

Ficheall · 13-10-2019 11:19pm

anewme wrote: »

One English person in the group pipes up with..”oh, are you not still all on donkeys?”

"Yeah, but your mother can only hold so many guys.."

Omackeral · 13-10-2019 11:21pm

anewme wrote: »

No he’s very upper class English.

Reminds me a bit of Prince Philip...just saying things out.

Holiday in Europe...activity holiday...bit of winter sun ...

Ah I know it well, good spot.

parc · 13-10-2019 11:22pm

anewme wrote: »

No he’s very upper class English.

Reminds me a bit of Prince Philip...just saying things out.

Holiday in Europe...activity holiday...bit of winter sun ...

Ah right, so an old guy? Over 55?

anewme · 13-10-2019 11:25pm

parc wrote: »

A right so an old guy? Over 55?

I’d say late sixties or more.

A good bit older than everyone else.

SirChenjin · 13-10-2019 11:28pm

anewme wrote: »

No he’s very upper class English.

Reminds me a bit of Prince Philip...just saying things out.

Holiday in Europe...activity holiday...bit of winter sun ...

Ignore him. Don't let it spoil your holiday. Easier said than done, I know.
He is just looking for a reaction. Let him off, the sad eejit.

An Claidheamh · 13-10-2019 11:30pm

Make a joke about about the IRA bombs taking out a few of their army, about the Royal family, or indeed their backward attempts at leaving the EU.

Then you'll see whether it's banter or not.

Funny, I have a feeling this "joker" and his Irish apologists will be the first to accuse you of racism. Get over the 800 years etc.

Worth remembering this British guy is actually how a lot of continentals and North Americans view that country stereotypically, it is part of British culture to attack others, he sounds like he has poor table manners anyway, social skills and educational attainment.

I agree with an earlier poster, count yourself lucky we're not as hated as him and his ilk.

NickNickleby · 13-10-2019 11:31pm

parc wrote: »

Ah right, so an old guy? Over 55?

What? :eek:

:pac::pac::pac:

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