Star Trek Discovery Season 2 [ SPOILERS WITHIN ]

BrookieD · 26-03-2018 12:19pm #1

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Showrunners Confirm Number Of Episodes In Season 2, Give Production Update

13 episodes for season two
"This is the same original number of episodes Discovery had for the first season,"

No release target for season two
When asked if they have a target date for the premiere of the second season, Harberts said, “We don’t,” adding “I wish, I really do wish” there was one confirmed. Co-showrunner and executive producer Gretchen J. Berg noted they are waiting for CBS to set a second season target date, saying they will know “when they tell us.”

Last September, well before it was announced, Alex Kurtzman estimated a second season may not debut until early 2019. It’s possible such an estimate was to give the team plenty of leeway after facing criticism for the multiple delays in the first season. Based on times required to produce the first season, early 2019 seems easily attainable, and late 2018 is certainly plausible, possibly as early as October/November.

However, Discovery’s production and post-production times aren’t the only consideration when picking a premiere date. CBS has a number of other original All Access series in various stages of development and have stated they would like to space their new releases out. The mystery show $1 starts production shortly and is reportedly set to debut in August. Les Moonves has estimated the new Twilight Zone will debut in the fall and their drama Strange Angel is also currently in pre-production. CBS All Access also ordered the new drama Tell Me a Story and a second season of the comedy No Activity.

https://trekmovie.com/2018/03/25/star-trek-discovery-showrunners-confirm-number-of-episodes-in-season-2-give-production-update/

Slydice · 26-03-2018 8:21pm

Calling it now: Lorca with Goatee shows up!

BrookieD · 26-03-2018 8:27pm

Section 31

does so could happen

TheValeyard · 27-03-2018 7:40pm

BrookieD wrote: »

Section 31
does so could happen

Could be interesting.

They also promised to keep with canon. We shall see!

Josey Wales · 27-03-2018 9:44pm

BrookieD wrote: »

Section 31
does so could happen

Is that a guess or was it confirmed somewhere?

TheValeyard · 28-03-2018 8:03am

Josey Wales wrote: »

Is that a guess or was it confirmed somewhere?

Watch the new clip from the S1 finale deleted scene

BrookieD · 28-03-2018 10:51am

Josey Wales wrote: »

Is that a guess or was it confirmed somewhere?

Confirmed - looks interesting though

pixelburp · 28-03-2018 10:57am

Well the deleted scene from whence that revelation came may not come up again; given it was a deleted scene it's arguable that it's just a trailing strand, and entirely up to the writing team whether they'll pick it up or not.

FutureGuy · 28-03-2018 10:58am

pixelburp wrote: »

Well the deleted scene from whence that revelation came may not come up again; given it was a deleted scene it's arguable that it's just a trailing strand, and entirely up to the writing team whether they'll pick it up or not.

It's confirmed for s2. Actor is onboard for season two.

Slydice · 28-03-2018 8:11pm

I don't think it's a deleted scene.

They called it a Bonus Scene:
https://twitter.com/StarTrekNetflix/status/977686761823350784

TheValeyard · 29-03-2018 12:03am

Slydice wrote: »

I don't think it's a deleted scene.

They called it a Bonus Scene:
https://twitter.com/StarTrekNetflix/status/977686761823350784

I enjoyed it. Good scene.

Spear · 29-03-2018 12:25pm

Slydice wrote: »

I don't think it's a deleted scene.

They called it a Bonus Scene:
https://twitter.com/StarTrekNetflix/status/977686761823350784

Odd wording, bonus would imply it's canon, deleted wouldn't suggest so as much.

At the same con they described the season 2 as science vs spirtuality, something they've also said previously. I'm not sure how much substance that has, given they said season 1 was meant to be about the Klingon war.

pixelburp · 29-03-2018 12:29pm

I think it could have put a more believable capper on Georgiou's arc: the Federation deferring to her homicidal judgement was a really bad bit of writing, peddled as a 'desperate times...' gambit, whereas if her coopting was by

Section 31

, it would have made her doomsday plan more believable - and would stay within canon.

Side note: should we have to spoiler the above? Feels like anything that came up in Season 1, bonus scenes included, should be fair game for discussion about Season 2. No one who hasn't seen all of the first run should be anywhere near this thread

TheValeyard · 29-03-2018 1:07pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I think it could have put a more believable capper on Georgiou's arc: the Federation deferring to her homicidal judgement was a really bad bit of writing, peddled as a 'desperate times...' gambit, whereas if her coopting was by
Section 31
, it would have made her doomsday plan more believable - and would stay within canon.

Side note: should we have to spoiler the above? Feels like anything that came up in Season 1, bonus scenes included, should be fair game for discussion about Season 2. No one who hasn't seen all of the first run should be anywhere near this thread

Id say its fine. Anyone who wanted to watch the show, probably has by this stage

Evade · 29-03-2018 1:16pm

Spear wrote: »

At the same con they described the season 2 as science vs spirtuality, something they've also said previously.

I hope not, this is the worst part of DS9. It'll boil down to "there's no evidence but I feel..."

Section 31 and the Mirror Universe are fine in small doses but the more they show up the less mysterious and interesting they'll be.

Goodshape · 29-03-2018 2:31pm

From here: https://trekmovie.com/2018/03/26/star-trek-discovery-showrunners-reveal-season-2-theme-plans-for-burnham-airiam-and-more/

I don't think they're talking about spirituality in the sense of DS9's profits or anything:

Trekmovie.com wrote:

Aaron Harberts: So, last season was war and finding a way to peace. So, for this season – for lack of a better word – is sort of about “spirituality” in Star Trek. What is the role of serendipity versus science? Is there a story about faith to be told? Leaps of faith. We are dealing with space. We are dealing with things that can’t be explained and you have a character like Michael Burnham who believes there is an explanation for everything.

And it doesn’t just mean religion. It means patterns in our lives. It means connections you can’t explain.

"serendipity versus science", "Leaps of faith", "things that can’t be explained".

Hate to be cynical but that sounds more like the 'destiny' nonsense we had a sniff of in season one.

Inviere · 29-03-2018 2:34pm

I very much enjoyed the spiritual side of DS9, so if Discovery goes down that road it’s something I look forward to...and hope they get it as right as DS9 did.

pixelburp · 29-03-2018 2:51pm

Yeah, I like the Bajor / Prophets angle from DS9 - it's actually one of the few treatments in popular Science Fiction that posits the notion organised religion isn't an immediately bad, regressive thing; threading the needle of being critical of the concept & its potential for corruption, yet understanding the value and positivity spirituality can bring to a people or individual.

Mind you, it did help that in this case their gods were REAL, but still. Equally, Trek has itself dug into the whole 'ancient beings from before time' often enough, which to me is always a sign of a writer trying to sneak a proxy-god past a cynical audience. Trek, BSG, Babylon 5, etc - they all do it.

If anything, it feels like a subject not mined enough in SciFi. Against the backdrop of the infinite, why wouldn't people en masse turn to religion to find meaning in a neverending cosmos, so full of chaos? The vastness of space would surely cause a lot of existential crisis in people - especially once confronted with the fact via space travel - so I'd be more surprised if religion didn't become more popular, rather than less.

So yeah, I think Burnham getting a little spiritual could be an interesting angle - if handled right.

Inviere · 29-03-2018 3:55pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Mind you, it did help that in this case their gods were REAL, but still.

Naturally

What i like about the Bajoran faith was it was portrayed as quite spiritual. It didn’t seem overly dogmatic, and it had a purity about it that connected less faithful tv viewers, to it. I can openly say that as someone who has no time at all for organised man made religions, but who thinks about life and the universe in a spiritual way at times.

TheValeyard · 29-03-2018 7:45pm

Inviere wrote: »

Naturally

What i like about the Bajoran faith was it was portrayed as quite spiritual. It didn’t seem overly dogmatic, and it had a purity about it that connected less faithful tv viewers, to it. I can openly say that as someone who has no time at all for organised man made religions, but who thinks about life and the universe in a spiritual way at times.

Suppose the difference is though, the Bajorian Gods are very much alive and active in their faith with orbs.

AMKC · 29-03-2018 11:08pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Yeah, I like the Bajor / Prophets angle from DS9 - it's actually one of the few treatments in popular Science Fiction that posits the notion organised religion isn't an immediately bad, regressive thing; threading the needle of being critical of the concept & its potential for corruption, yet understanding the value and positivity spirituality can bring to a people or individual.

Mind you, it did help that in this case their gods were REAL, but still. Equally, Trek has itself dug into the whole 'ancient beings from before time' often enough, which to me is always a sign of a writer trying to sneak a proxy-god past a cynical audience. Trek, BSG, Babylon 5, etc - they all do it.

If anything, it feels like a subject not mined enough in SciFi. Against the backdrop of the infinite, why wouldn't people en masse turn to religion to find meaning in a neverending cosmos, so full of chaos? The vastness of space would surely cause a lot of existential crisis in people - especially once confronted with the fact via space travel - so I'd be more surprised if religion didn't become more popular, rather than less.

So yeah, I think Burnham getting a little spiritual could be an interesting angle - if handled right.

I would not be surprised at all at it getting less popular if it even still exists by the time we are out exploring deep deep space and have warp drive, hyperspace or whatever it will be. I hope that does not happen. People are technologically advanced now and smart enough now to realise all that religious stuff was just a way of trying to control and brainwash them. It was just a story made up by someone thousands of years ago that does not even make sense.

TheValeyard · 29-03-2018 11:13pm

AMKC wrote: »

I would not be surprised at all at it getting less popular if it even still exists by the time we are out exploring deep deep space and have warp drive, hyperspace or whatever it will be. I hope that does not happen. People are technologically advanced now and smart enough now to realise all that religious stuff was just a way of trying to control and brainwash them. It was just a story made up by someone thousands of years ago that does not even make sense.

Depends on the religion. Some faiths like Mormonism are based on evangelical speading of faith. As humanity spreads throughout the stars, there duty remains the same and spread faith outwards across worlds.

Its also equally possible that for another species their religion or spirituality could be based space or the universe and actually prepel them into space centuries before us. Reaching space of divinity could actually strengthen over time

Evade · 30-03-2018 12:08am

I couldn't ever square how the Prophets were different than anyone else showing off fancy technology and being worshiped by less developed species. More advanced doesn't make you a god.

The spiritual destiny/awe at the majesty of the universe stuff is kind of crap too.

brainfreeze · 03-04-2018 11:49am

Evade wrote: »

I couldn't ever square how the Prophets were different than anyone else showing off fancy technology and being worshiped by less developed species. More advanced doesn't make you a god.

They are not. They never called themselves Gods (like the founders). In fact even in siskos first encounter with them, they were scared of humanoids and didn't understand corporal existence - and debated whether or not to destroy Sisko for their own safety.

They appeared to ancient bajorans in abstract visions in peoples head, and existed outside of time, so they knew the future. If some bronze age bajoran wrote down what the "prophets" said would happen in poem, and then a few hundred years later it happened, it would be easy to see them as Gods.

The Bajorans entire culture revolves around them since pre-technology times, it's easy to see how they would not let go of that notion when their entire society is built around the ancient word of the prophets. Other species who encounter them have no such history, so just see them as they are: wormhole aliens.

Evade · 03-04-2018 12:00pm

brainfreeze wrote: »

They are not. They never called themselves Gods (like the founders). In fact even in siskos first encounter with them, they were scared of humanoids and didn't understand corporal existence - and debated whether or not to destroy Sisko for their own safety.

They appeared to ancient bajorans in abstract visions in peoples head, and existed outside of time, so they knew the future. If some bronze age bajoran wrote down what the "prophets" said would happen in poem, and then a few hundred years later it happened, it would be easy to see them as Gods.

The Bajorans entire culture revolves around them since pre-technology times, it's easy to see how they would not let go of that notion when their entire society is built around the ancient word of the prophets. Other species who encounter them have no such history, so just see them as they are: wormhole aliens.

Are we going to gloss over them creating their own Jesus to benefit Bajor? The Sisko is of Bajor and all that.

I preferred the early season interpretation that the wormhole aliens were oblivious to the Bajorans worshiping them but later on it was clear they were intentionally interfering.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 12:05pm

Evade wrote: »

Are we going to gloss over them creating their own Jesus to benefit Bajor? The Sisko is of Bajor and all that.

We've seen that type of thing before though. Had Q not introduced Picard & co to the Borg, things would likely have gone differently, and badly, for the Federation. Sisko being of Bajor, was imo, a huge grand arc that elevated DS9 beyond TNG

Evade · 03-04-2018 12:14pm

Inviere wrote: »

We've seen that type of thing before though. Had Q not introduced Picard & co to the Borg, things would likely have gone differently, and badly, for the Federation. Sisko being of Bajor, was imo, a huge grand arc that elevated DS9 beyond TNG

And what happened when Q implied he was (a) god? I'm not against a more advanced species helping out, it's letting themselves be seen or worshiped as gods that I don't like.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 12:23pm

Evade wrote: »

I'm not against a more advanced species helping out, it's letting themselves be seen or worshiped as gods that I don't like.

But in every conceivable way, they were gods. They also didn't command anyone to see them or worship them as Gods, is that not the Path Wraiths you're thinking of?

Evade · 03-04-2018 12:36pm

Inviere wrote: »

But in every conceivable way, they were gods.

They were very advanced, just like Q. Being advanced does not make you a god.

Inviere wrote: »

They also didn't command anyone to see them or worship them as Gods, is that not the Path Wraiths you're thinking of?

They didn't command it but they allowed it. They don't even get to make the excuse "we didn't know" because they exist at all points in time simultaneously. Compare that to what happened in Who Watches the Watchers where Picard made it very clear they weren't gods just more advanced.

pixelburp · 03-04-2018 12:43pm

Evade wrote: »

They were very advanced, just like Q. Being advanced does not make you a god.
.

It doesn't, but in functional, narrative terms the Prophets absolutely were gods; albeit through handwaving pseudo-science that allowed the writers to basically invent gods without breaking the canon of the atheistic universe Trek operates as.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 12:48pm

Evade wrote: »

They were very advanced, just like Q. Being advanced does not make you a god.

What is a god? Timeless, all seeing, all knowing, existing outside of time, existing on a 'higher' plane, keeping a watchful gaze on a less advanced people...that'd check the box for most definitions of a 'god'.

They didn't command it but they allowed it.

By not allowing it, they'd be interfering too though, no? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

They don't even get to make the excuse "we didn't know" because they exist at all points in time simultaneously. Compare that to what happened in Who Watches the Watchers where Picard made it very clear they weren't gods just more advanced.

For me, there's a slight difference between a human interacting with another humanoid, and a non corporeal being outside of linear time interacting with a human. I don't think you can arguably compare or contrast the two situations.

Evade · 03-04-2018 12:49pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It doesn't, but in functional, narrative terms the Prophets absolutely were gods; albeit through handwaving pseudo-science that allowed the writers to basically invent gods without breaking the canon of the atheistic universe Trek operates as.

I agree that from the Bajoran perspective and the storyline of DS9 they were gods. But outside of that I don't like that everyone was ok with them acting like gods when all they were was more advanced aliens.

Evade · 03-04-2018 1:05pm

Inviere wrote: »

What is a god? Timeless, all seeing, all knowing, existing outside of time, existing on a 'higher' plane, keeping a watchful gaze on a less advanced people...that'd check the box for most definitions of a 'god'.

That reminds me of this exchange in Stargate starting at around 1:00 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRITzdlHJXA

Inviere wrote: »

By not allowing it, they'd be interfering too though, no? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Well since they could see all points in time they would have known what sending out the orbs would do so not sending out the orbs would have been enough.

Inviere wrote: »

For me, there's a slight difference between a human interacting with another humanoid, and a non corporeal being outside of linear time interacting with a human. I don't think you can arguably compare or contrast the two situations.

It's just a matter of scale.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 1:20pm

Evade wrote: »

That reminds me of this exchange in Stargate starting at around 1:00 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRITzdlHJXA

The Ori are far more akin to the Pah Wraiths, than the Prophets. They desire worship, they desire power. My ultimate point being, if you're going to negate the existence of a god by invoking the argument that they're simply more advanced, it's but a short jaunt to the conclusion that there are no such things as gods (one which I'd agree with). That said, it brings us back to asking to define what being a god means? Once again, for the Bajorans, the Prophets were literally, and figuratively, real gods.

Well since they could see all points in time they would have known what sending out the orbs would do so not sending out the orbs would have been enough.

Thereby ultimately destroying Bajor...t'would not be very nice of them. This supports the argument that they were very much real gods for the Bajorans.

Evade · 03-04-2018 1:35pm

Inviere wrote: »

The Ori are far more akin to the Pah Wraiths, than the Prophets. They desire worship, they desire power. My ultimate point being, if you're going to negate the existence of a god by invoking the argument that they're simply more advanced, it's but a short jaunt to the conclusion that there are no such things as gods (one which I'd agree with). That said, it brings us back to asking to define what being a god means? Once again, for the Bajorans, the Prophets were literally, and figuratively, real gods.

I think Adria's definition of a god in the video is right, power and being worshiped, that's it. But allowing yourself to be worshiped as a god says a lot more about you than it does the worshipers. You can help out without letting those you help worship you, back to Who Watches the Watchers. The Prophets don't demand it but they do allow it which is ultimately a distinction without a difference.

Inviere wrote: »

Thereby ultimately destroying Bajor...t'would not be very nice of them. This supports the argument that they were very much real gods for the Bajorans.

How? Because they also turned Bajor into a maximum security prison for their undesirables?

Inviere · 03-04-2018 2:15pm

Evade wrote: »

You can help out without letting those you help worship you, back to Who Watches the Watchers. The Prophets don't demand it but they do allow it which is ultimately a distinction without a difference.

"Tradition says the orbs were sent by the Prophets to teach us. What we have learned has shaped our theology." - Kai Opaka

It's difficult to understand their motives, but the Prophets have been a benefactor to Bajor for tens of thousands of years it would seem. Didn't the Prophets describe themselves of being 'of Bajor'? Maybe there's a far closer relationship between the Prophets and Bajorans than we know about?

How? Because they also turned Bajor into a maximum security prison for their undesirables?

Without the Orbs, there'd be no Emissary, no Emissary means the above picture never happened, and without that picture, Bajor would almost certainly have been lost (along with the Alpha Quadrant itself).

Evade · 03-04-2018 2:23pm

Inviere wrote: »

"Tradition says the orbs were sent by the Prophets to teach us. What we have learned has shaped our theology." - Kai Opaka

It's difficult to understand their motives, but the Prophets have been a benefactor to Bajor for tens of thousands of years it would seem. Didn't the Prophets describe themselves of being 'of Bajor'? Maybe there's a far closer relationship between the Prophets and Bajorans than we know about?

I think I've figured it out. Theology is confusing and often internally inconsistent.

The most cynical explanation is the Prophets engineered everything so Sisko could defeat the Pah Wraiths and the Bajorans were just pawns. Which is kind of horrifying if you think about the Occupation and the D'jarra.

Inviere wrote: »

Without the Orbs, there'd be no Emissary, no Emissary means the above picture never happened, and without that picture, Bajor would almost certainly have been lost (along with the Alpha Quadrant itself).

No Emissary means no one to discover the wormhole so no Dominion invasion fleet.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 2:43pm

Evade wrote: »

The most cynical explanation is the Prophets engineered everything so Sisko could defeat the Pah Wraiths and the Bajorans were just pawns. Which is kind of horrifying if you think about the Occupation and the D'jarra.

Most cynical indeed, reminds me of what another poster here would come up with. Unlikely however, as the Pah Wraiths would have remained in the Fire Caves had it not been for the events surrounding the Emissary. Personally I feel the Bajorans are on some path to 'ascension', to once again reference Stargate...and what we seen during the events of DS9 are merely one chapter in a very long and as of yet, unwritten book.

No Emissary means no one to discover the wormhole so no Dominion invasion fleet.

Sisko wasn't the first, there was Kai Taluno & Akorem Laan before him. It's likely someone else would have found it at some stage given the clues were all there.

Evade · 03-04-2018 3:02pm

Inviere wrote: »

Most cynical indeed, reminds me of what another poster here would come up with. Unlikely however, as the Pah Wraiths would have remained in the Fire Caves had it not been for the events surrounding the Emissary.

At least one Pah Wraith escaped, seemingly on its own. Yes it was after Sisko discovered the wormhole so that could have been a contributing factor but if the Pah Wraiths were locked up for eternity why create the Sisko to kill them? Spite?

Inviere wrote: »

Sisko wasn't the first, there was Kai Taluno & Akorem Laan before him. It's likely someone else would have found it at some stage given the clues were all there.

Neither of them reported where the wormhole was and enabled all that traffic to head out into the Gamma Quadrant so I think my point stands. It's likely the clues were put there so Sisko would find it. Had there been no Sisko would they have left the clues?

Inviere · 03-04-2018 4:01pm

Evade wrote: »

but if the Pah Wraiths were locked up for eternity why create the Sisko to kill them? Spite?

It was you who suggested that's why he was created, not me. Personally, I don't agree. Also, everything we've seen of the Prophets suggests they're benign, and not driven by malevolence.

Had there been no Sisko would they have left the clues?

The clues were there since before Sisko found them...arguably it was Jadzia who pieced it together.

Evade · 03-04-2018 4:21pm

Inviere wrote: »

It was you who suggested that's why he was created, not me. Personally, I don't agree. Also, everything we've seen of the Prophets suggests they're benign, and not driven by malevolence.

You suggested the Pah Wraiths couldn't ever escape the Fire Caverns without Sisko existing. So the omniprescient beings created Sisko in order to allow the Pah Wraiths to escape so he could then kill them.

Inviere wrote: »

The clues were there since before Sisko found them...arguably it was Jadzia who pieced it together.

They exist at /observe all points in time so they could easily know what clues to put where and when so Sisko/Dax would ultimately be the one to figure it out.

Inviere · 03-04-2018 4:29pm

Evade wrote: »

You suggested the Pah Wraiths couldn't ever escape the Fire Caverns without Sisko existing. So the omniprescient beings created Sisko in order to allow the Pah Wraiths to escape so he could then kill them.

They exist at /observe all points in time so they could easily know what clues to put where and when so Sisko/Dax would ultimately be the one to figure it out.

This could go on all day, so I'll spare everyone else having to read it.

Goodshape · 03-04-2018 5:58pm

You two should check out this new series, 'Discovery'.

I hear there's a second season on the way! Maybe someone should start a thread about it...

BrookieD · 04-04-2018 3:25pm

What he said

Inviere · 04-04-2018 5:40pm

...and here I was just about to kick it all off again

So yeah, em, Discovery...loved Season 1, looking forward to Season 2!

Optimus Prime · 04-04-2018 10:26pm

Inviere wrote: »

This could go on all day, so I'll spare everyone else having to read it.

It’s the chicken and the egg Will, the chicken and the egg !

garbo speaks · 06-04-2018 9:35am

I thought Discovery season 1 was ok up to the break. After it came back in January, I thought the whole mirror universe thing went on way too long (I've never had any interest in the mirror universe episodes-in my opinion they were just something the writers did to have fun writing 'evil' versions of the characters). As the season neared the end, its like they realized they had to quickly and awkwardly wrap up the Klingon war and the whole thing about making the mirror Georgiou captain the mission to Quo'Nos was nonsense. Finally, to add insult to injury, what we all knew was coming from day one happened right at the end and earlier in the series than I could have imagined. Bringing the Enterprise and Pike into the show stinks of desperation at such an early stage in the series. Discovery should be trying to find its feet as its show and settle down after the war was over and with Lorca gone, but instead we have the writers going to give us probably a six-episode arc with Burnham and Spock playing family with Sarek, and another new take on Pike's getting paralyzed. So much for boldly going...

Marje · 09-04-2018 6:19pm

Captain Christopher Pike of the U.S.S. Enterprise reporting for duty.

http://www.startrek.com/article/meet-discoverys-captain-pike

OldMrBrennan83 · 09-04-2018 6:31pm

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Marje · 09-04-2018 6:50pm

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

Don't know what happened there - when I click on it myself when I try to link it again, it also brings me to the shop as well.

Got link from twitter
https://twitter.com/StarTrek/status/983389513127952384

Different link http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-season-2-captain-pike-anson-mount-1202743293/

GottaGetGatt · 09-04-2018 6:55pm

Nice. He was good in Hell on Wheels.

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