Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [ POSSIBLE SPOILERS ]

AMKC · 30-10-2019 7:54pm

pixelburp wrote: »

To be fair, were I in Crosbies place back in the day, I would have left too. Watching season 1, she really had nothing to do throughout the run and while the same could be said for Word, Data or Troi, at least they had something to work with. Tasha Yar was Generic Human Crew, with maybe 1, 2 lines per episode.

I think she made a big mistake because its not like she got any other big gigs after it. So if she had of stayed in TNG things might have got better.

As for this ''Word'' character scratches head . I can't say I remember them.

I think you mean Worf lol.

TheValeyard · 30-10-2019 9:23pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sir, yes sir!!!!

I like the Admiral Picard one

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30-10-2019 9:34pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

I like the Admiral Picard one

ohhhhhhhhh nice

Inviere · 31-10-2019 9:35am

AMKC wrote: »

I think she made a big mistake because its not like she got any other big gigs after it. So if she had of stayed in TNG things might have got better.

Agreed. I always felt she regretted leaving too, as she seemed to spend the rest of her days embracing Trek at conventions, and remaining part of the family etc. She seemed to jump at the chance to get back involved for Sela etc too.

pixelburp · 31-10-2019 10:03am

AMKC wrote: »

I think she made a big mistake because its not like she got any other big gigs after it. So if she had of stayed in TNG things might have got better.

As for this ''Word'' character scratches head . I can't say I remember them.

I think you mean Worf lol.

Not saying it wasn't a mistake, am saying that at the time it was an understandable decision for an actor to make, considering Yar was basically a red-shirt with the occasional line or two. Assuming it wasn't brilliantly paid - and going by the chaos of pre-production I'd imagine it wasn't - I'd have left too were I in Crosbie's place.

Like, has there even been any subsequent reveals of Yar in fact having some complex or meaningful character that would have been explored in a later season?

31-10-2019 10:16am

pixelburp wrote: »

Not saying it wasn't a mistake, am saying that at the time it was an understandable decision for an actor to make, considering Yar was basically a red-shirt with the occasional line or two. Assuming it wasn't brilliantly paid - and going by the chaos of pre-production I'd imagine it wasn't - I'd have left too were I in Crosbie's place.

Like, has there even been any subsequent reveals of Yar in fact having some complex or meaningful character that would have been explored in a later season?

She had the best of the character backgrounds, and there were subtle & obvious hints as to the reason for her withdrawn nature.
Her mistake was 2 fold though:
1. Leaving without something dead to rights nailed down
2. Having her leaving be a death scene

Actually the character was ahead of it's time, with Roddenberry not wanting any crew conflict and her characterisation really needing serialised TV format.

He creates a character from a fallen world, just to show how the Federation was the way forward, but does not allow real negativity.

Even in DS9 she would have been a multi layered character along the lines of Garak, Ducat, Bashir, or even Rom

Evade · 31-10-2019 12:24pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Like, has there even been any subsequent reveals of Yar in fact having some complex or meaningful character that would have been explored in a later season?

Being from a failed and abandoned colony could have made her much more sympathetic to the Maquis.

IvySlayer · 31-10-2019 7:12pm

Evade wrote: »

Being from a failed and abandoned colony could have made her much more sympathetic to the Maquis.

Tasha loved the Federation, and has said Starfleet saved her. She would never betray the Federation imo

Evade · 31-10-2019 7:23pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

Tasha loved the Federation, and has said Starfleet saved her. She would never betray the Federation imo

I think the Federation abandoning some of its worlds might at least make her a little conflicted. Imagine the organisation you idealise betraying its principles (arguably) the only moral choice might be to leave and carry on those ideals on your own, or with the Maquis.

Obviously if she was still a regular then she'd stay with Starfleet but it's a potential story that could have centered around her.

Slydice · 18-11-2019 10:39pm

Set course to the Hype system, Maximum Warp.. Engage!

https://twitter.com/jeffersonrusso/status/1196532816382611456

Stop moaning ffs · 19-11-2019 12:04am

Can’t wait for this.

Goodshape · 28-11-2019 1:19pm

Issue 1 of the Picard: Countdown comic seems to be out?

Anyone know if / where it's available? In Dublin preferably for myself, or online I guess.

Stop moaning ffs · 28-11-2019 2:05pm

Goodshape wrote: »

Issue 1 of the Picard: Countdown comic seems to be out?

Anyone know if / where it's available? In Dublin preferably for myself, or online I guess.

I’d say call forbidden planet. But only if you don’t mind them saving your number and calling you to tell you about comics that have come in every few weeks

_Kaiser_ · 28-11-2019 6:31pm

It's out online alright

Have read it now and the look and tone seems pretty faithful to TNG/DS9/VOY era. Hopefully this bodes well for the upcoming series

AMKC · 28-11-2019 10:09pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

I’d say call forbidden planet. But only if you don’t mind them saving your number and calling you to tell you about comics that have come in every few weeks

Forbidden Planet have gone downhill a lot. I used to love going there and remember when half the shop was full of kits from Star Trek and other sci-fi shows. I barely ever go there now its all manga this and that. You would be lucky to find any sci-fi show in there now except Star Wars and even that has suffered in the last few years which was coming as there are only so much you can sell to people before it gets boring.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

It's out online alright

Have read it now and the look and tone seems pretty faithful to TNG/DS9/VOY era. Hopefully this bodes well for the upcoming series

That's good to hear.

Just on Picard. I wonder are some of the events that happened in ''Voyager'' in season 3 Episode 17 ''Unity'' somehow related to the Borg in ''Picard'' and what has happened to them? Just caught the end of it there on ''Horror Channel'' but have seen it many times before. Worth a watch I think if you have not seen it in a while.

Rawr · 29-11-2019 2:21pm

AMKC wrote: »

Just on Picard. I wonder are some of the events that happened in ''Voyager'' in season 3 Episode 17 ''Unity'' somehow related to the Borg in ''Picard'' and what has happened to them? Just caught the end of it there on ''Horror Channel'' but have seen it many times before. Worth a watch I think if you have not seen it in a while.

I feel it would be wise of them to draw on the many Borg references throughout the TNG era. There's a lot to work with there and if ST:Picard is going to be a Borg-heavy show it would make a lot of sense for them to do that.

I would certainly enjoy it a lot to actually have a new Trek show that references stuff that happened before. It's been a while since we had that....

Stop moaning ffs · 29-11-2019 2:28pm

AMKC wrote: »

Forbidden Planet have gone downhill a lot. I used to love going there and remember when half the shop was full of kits from Star Trek and other sci-fi shows. I barely ever go there now its all manga this and that. You would be lucky to find any sci-fi show in there now except Star Wars and even that has suffered in the last few years which was coming as there are only so much you can sell to people before it gets boring.

That's good to hear.

Just on Picard. I wonder are some of the events that happened in ''Voyager'' in season 3 Episode 17 ''Unity'' somehow related to the Borg in ''Picard'' and what has happened to them? Just caught the end of it there on ''Horror Channel'' but have seen it many times before. Worth a watch I think if you have not seen it in a while.

Right??? I used to love buying models in there. Got my enterprise D there way back when.

Now all they have is those super expensive busts from all the franchises and toys.
I mean I wouldn’t spend €350 on an amazing sculpt of Palpatine sitting in his chair even if I had it. But somebody’s buying them, otherwise they would have dropped it by now

That glass cabinet with all the statues an busts is amazing but kind of obscene too

TheValeyard · 29-11-2019 3:57pm

I like that the STO Odyssey class is now Canon!

It's a nice ship.

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Stark · 29-11-2019 4:10pm

Thought it might be the Enterprise-F (also Odyssey class) for a second, it would be in keeping with Picard in command but looks like it's actually the USS Verify. Warning, spoilers in article: https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Verity

_Kaiser_ · 29-11-2019 5:00pm

Stark wrote: »

Thought it might be the Enterprise-F (also Odyssey class) for a second, it would be in keeping with Picard in command but looks like it's actually the USS Verify. Warning, spoilers in article: https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Verity

The Enterprise is mentioned as being under the command of another captain, with Will and Deanna still on the Titan, but no reference to wether it's still the -E or -F

If it was me I'd have used that Admiral's influence to get special dispensation from the Chief of Starfleet Operations to change the name though

Hey it worked for Bill Ross and Sisko

Stop moaning ffs · 29-11-2019 5:16pm

Sorry but I think I missed this but it is this comic a prequel to the series? If so is it a one shot or a series?
Thanks in advance

Stark · 29-11-2019 5:23pm

Looks like a prequel.

spoiler from that memory beta paged I linked

It looks like the comic depicts Picard's actions during the Romulan evacuation at the time of the supernova

_Kaiser_ · 29-11-2019 7:22pm

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Sorry but I think I missed this but it is this comic a prequel to the series? If so is it a one shot or a series?
Thanks in advance

It's a series.

Stark wrote: »

Looks like a prequel.

spoiler from that memory beta paged I linked
It looks like the comic depicts Picard's actions during the Romulan evacuation at the time of the supernova

Yep, exactly. And it's the Picard we remember as far as I can see.

Stark · 30-11-2019 1:13pm

Had a look in Other Realms in Cork and it's not there. They might have ordered it in if I asked but didn't bother.

FGR · 01-12-2019 5:30pm

From reading this comic it appears that

this version of the Prime Timeline has a Romulan Government that had to admit that there was a serious problem and that the Nova was a genuine threat.

I like it.

They're not letting the JJverse have such an influence on how things go in their universe.

I hope I'm correct on that. If not please let me know. Otherwise I'm looking forward to the next issue - when will it be out?

Eire Go Brach · 01-12-2019 7:07pm

Just wondering where can I see the season 2 shorts? Only on Amazon prime?

Goodshape · 01-12-2019 7:45pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Just wondering where can I see the season 2 shorts? Only on Amazon prime?

The Discovery shorts? Netflix will probably have them eventually. The season one shorts were released there shortly before season two started.

AMKC · 01-12-2019 11:43pm

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Just wondering where can I see the season 2 shorts? Only on Amazon prime?

Certainly not Amazon anyway if its the ones for ''Discovery'' that you want to see. Just have to wait until they are on Netfliks. I still have not seen them myself either. Now if they make some for ''Picard'' I am sure they will be on Amazon but that would be only if the show is a success I would say.

13-12-2019 1:34pm

AMKC wrote: »

Certainly not Amazon anyway if its the ones for ''Discovery'' that you want to see. Just have to wait until they are on Netfliks. I still have not seen them myself either. Now if they make some for ''Picard'' I am sure they will be on Amazon but that would be only if the show is a success I would say.

The next short is a Picard prequel

due out a few days before the series premiers.

H3llR4iser · 13-12-2019 3:01pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

I like that the STO Odyssey class is now Canon!

It's a nice ship.

Yeah like the design - I have one stored somewhere in my account, it's been a LONG while since I played STO.

Interesting thing - STO was supposed to be canon, at least the events leading to 2409 when the game happens. When CBS and Cryptic announced the game, it was paraded as the continuation of the TNG canon era; At the time, it was a way to keep the interest in Star Trek alive since no series were planned and the JJ movies...well, let's not go there.

Since STO changed hands to Perfect World/Arc Games, the storyline has developed a bazillion crazy tendrils in order to extract cash from players...and I suspect (actually hope) it's not deemed canon now. Remains to see if the initial "road to 2409" story established had any influence on the world Picard happens in - namely, the Kithomer accords dissolution.

Would be nice to see a few other ship designs make it into Picard, maybe some of the Romulan Republic ships...

AMKC · 13-12-2019 7:35pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The next short is a Picard prequel due out a few days before the series premiers.

Awe very good. Hopefully it is avalible to view before the first episode. Is it animated?

16-12-2019 3:41pm

AMKC wrote: »

Awe very good. Hopefully it is avalible to view before the first episode. Is it animated?

Nope, I belive that it is a live action prequel!

Stark · 16-12-2019 3:53pm

I found some of the newer Short Treks on Dailymotion however the audio seems a bit messed up. Rebecca Romijn sounds like she just inhaled helium.

Goodshape · 16-12-2019 5:14pm

Season 2 confirmed:

https://deadline.com/2019/12/star-trek-picard-renewed-season-two-patrick-stewart-cbs-all-access-1202809964/

_Kaiser_ · 18-12-2019 2:25pm

The 2nd part of the Picard Countdown comic/graphic novel is out. Continues the story pretty well. Still true to his character

pixelburp · 20-12-2019 4:28pm

A new, brief trailer, which for now is only on CBS' facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=539855039932776

Slydice · 20-12-2019 5:13pm

pixelburp wrote: »

A new, brief trailer, which for now is only on CBS' facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=539855039932776

link doesn't work for me. is this is?

pixelburp · 20-12-2019 5:21pm

Yeah that's the same one; thanks for the YT link.

Rawr · 20-12-2019 9:34pm

Slydice wrote: »

link doesn't work for me. is this is?

That looked a lot like Ten Forward he was sitting in there at the beginning....I guessing a lot of TNG flashbacks / dreams in some portion of this show....which might be a lot of fun.

_Kaiser_ · 20-12-2019 11:27pm

Rawr wrote: »

That looked a lot like Ten Forward he was sitting in there at the beginning....I guessing a lot of TNG flashbacks / dreams in some portion of this show....which might be a lot of fun.

Looks like they've reimagined his time as Locutus as well in that first sequence?

Not a big fan of the look if so. Think the makeup looked great in First Contact and the Voyager era.

Slydice · 21-12-2019 12:44am

and like.. what's that planet blowing up?

Could it be Mars or Vulcan maybe?

AMKC · 21-12-2019 1:26am

Slydice wrote: »

and like.. what's that planet blowing up?

Could it be Mars or Vulcan maybe?

Romulas maybe or Remus or one of the other worlds in the Romulan Empire?

Slydice · 21-12-2019 1:58am

AMKC wrote: »

or one of the other worlds in the Romulan Empire?

That does feel like it fits better with the feel of the main trailer where the Romulans are up to something.

Inviere · 21-12-2019 9:59am

Slydice wrote: »

and like.. what's that planet blowing up?

Could it be Mars or Vulcan maybe?

Picard (or anyone else in the Prime timeline) shouldn't know about Vulcan being destroyed in the JJ-timeline. So I'd go with one of the Romulan worlds, perhaps he feels guilty/it haunts him in some way?

21-12-2019 10:09am

Slydice wrote: »

link doesn't work for me. is this is?

I have to say, I'm very excited.

Slydice · 21-12-2019 2:57pm

Inviere wrote: »

Picard (or anyone else in the Prime timeline) shouldn't know about Vulcan being destroyed in the JJ-timeline.

Vulcan being destroyed by mini black hole in the JJ-timeline looked a whole lot different to the large bombs going off in that clip.

AMKC · 21-12-2019 3:26pm

Even if it was Mars Why would it be? Not like the Romulans would have the resorces to do it now after there World or Worlds got destroyed from the Supernova in there system. Also if you were going to attack a world in the sol system Why Mars? Why not Earth? We all seen how easy both the Borg and the Breen got to Earth when they wanted to and the crap defences it had. Maybe they have been beefed up since then do. Myself I still think and hope its an alien world be it a Romulan one or some other one.

Evade · 21-12-2019 3:36pm

AMKC wrote: »

Even if it was Mars Why would it be?

Utopia Planetia is on Mars. It's a huge military target that could cripple Starfleet's ability to replace lost or obsolete ships.

Sol doesn't seem to be the soft target it was before either. While not a massive fleet the one that greeted Voyager's return was 18 ships including Galaxy, Nebula, Miranda, Prometheus, Defiant, Excelsior, Saber, and Akira class ships with 9 more inbound.

TheValeyard · 22-12-2019 3:48pm

Slydice wrote: »

Vulcan being destroyed by mini black hole in the JJ-timeline looked a whole lot different to the large bombs going off in that clip.

Same with Romulan supernova

Evade · 22-12-2019 3:52pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Same with Romulan supernova

Unless Picard retcons it that would still have happened in the prime timeline.

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