Second Captains Part II

Icemancometh wrote: »

I only realised today that we won't be getting Ken's travelogue for the Euros. Damn you Covid!

Ah for jaysis sake.

delldelivery wrote: »

Life's too short for listening to people debating the merits of kneeling versus booing.

Kneeling versus booing versus pointing at the respect badge versus not kneeling but standing because of the Wilifred Zaha reasoning.

I like David Sneyd

BUH

I wish he didn't say "but" like this.

Im personally looking forward to the England team imploding because of the knee vs booo situation.

Just listening to todays and had to pause it from laughing about Ken throwing in;
"And then you've got the Czech's who've got Premier League sensation Soucek", and just kept rolling on without even a hint of it being tongue in cheek :pac:

<edit> and; "haha, I've been English the whooole time!"

I assume there's daily euro pods?

Cienciano wrote: »

Jonathan Wilson is the best contributer on SC. He's always good on GFW too. Could listen to him talk shíte all day

Same with Sid Lowe and Tim Vickery

Too many stories for them to miss out on by not doing weekend pods during the tournament. Fridays and Saturdays action will be long in the memory by the time they get round to it.

Totally football fill that void at least.

Robert McGrath wrote: »

Agreed. Vickery’s piece on the Copa America shambles last week was just top class. Such a good journalist

That really was an excellent segment. He boiled it down so well, explained the context and kept it interesting.

I appreciate that Sid Lowe knows his stuff, but I find it quite hard to get too excited about what he's talking about most of the time. I think it's the subject matter rather than him, but I'd struggle to remember the details of his segments after they are finished. Football Politics, Real Madrid, something, Marca, Barca, Barca Politics, some club president, something, something...

Marcela, the journalist whose surname I can't remember, who they have on to talk about Argentina every once in a blue moon is so, so, good as well. She's knowledgeable, but actually kind of poetic and profound, in a genuine way - not just pseudish rubbish. The anti Graham Hunter.

Arghus wrote: »

That really was an excellent segment. He boiled it down so well, explained the context and kept it interesting.

I appreciate that Sid Lowe knows his stuff, but I find it quite hard to get too excited about what he's talking about most of the time. I think it's the subject matter rather than him, but I'd struggle to remember the details of his segments after they are finished. Football Politics, Real Madrid, something, Marca, Barca, Barca Politics, some club president, something, something...

Marcela, the journalist whose surname I can't remember, who they have on to talk about Argentina every once in a blue moon is so, so, good as well. She's knowledgeable, but actually kind of poetic and profound, in a genuine way - not just pseudish rubbish. The anti Graham Hunter.

Totally agree on Sid Lowe.

I like Wilson way more on SC than Football Weekly. Because of the dynamic with Ken for sure.

And I'm on board with anything that's anti Graham Hunter.

Beersmith wrote: »

Too many stories for them to miss out on by not doing weekend pods during the tournament. Fridays and Saturdays action will be long in the memory by the time they get round to it.

Totally football fill that void at least.

For one tournament they did weekend podcasts I think… was a good while ago though.

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Totally agree on Sid Lowe.

I like Wilson way more on SC than Football Weekly. Because of the dynamic with Ken for sure.

And I'm on board with anything that's anti Graham Hunter.

I guess I just find the dynamics of the Spanish football soap opera kind of boring from a distance.

To my ears, the talk is either about who of Real or Barca is in the ascendancy, until some club president eventually makes a pigs ear of it and then the other one gets on top for a while, until some other club president makes a pigs ear of it at the other club and then the previous one of the two clubs gets back into the driving seat again. And round and round it goes.

Athletico play a part from time to time, but their main role in the soap opera seems to be to make some other people at the other two look bad from time to time: they aren't inherently interesting in and of themselves.

Essentially it's all about who is top dog at the moment: Real or Barca. And it never really fundamentally changes, even if some of the names involved do. Which is why, no matter what Sid Lowe - or any Spanish football correspondent for that matter - is saying at any given moment it always sounds the same, even if it's different.

Has anyone else’s iPhone stoped getting new podcasts since the OS update ?

New Pod out now.

Pete Moss wrote: »

Even the biggest talking point of the weekend (arguably the tournament), being the medical emergency involving Christian Eriksen and the heroic actions of all involved to save his life and protect him as he received CPR, seems like it has been heavily covered and discussed now.

The guardian football weekly covered it really well.

dulpit wrote: »

But Second Captains has never really been about breaking news coverage really, so I don't see there being an issue. There are other sources for the up to the minute news/stories/etc.

I'd prefer them to give some stories a bit of time for reflection rather than being some sort of bulletin service.

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Disagree with the 2 above posts.
When your competitors (Totally football show, Football weekly, football ramble, bbc football daily) are putting out daily shows you really should be also , bear in mind all of those are free

Certain stuff has been talked to about to death already by the time today's podcast came out.

If you're not first your last, some wise man said before.

But I think they are fundamentally different offerings, so not direct competitors.

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Disagree with the 2 above posts.
When your competitors (Totally football show, Football weekly, football ramble, bbc football daily) are putting out daily shows you really should be also , bear in mind all of those are free

Certain stuff has been talked to about to death already by the time today's podcast came out.

If you're not first your last, some wise man said before.

It's really not about the subject matter with the SC. It's about the presentation and the delivery.
If you want on the minute content you go else where. If you want a decent angle on it with a smathering of humour and some good interviewing you go with SC
You can get 'sports breaking news' in tonnes of media outlets these days. You'd be a fool to JUST focus on that angle as a podcast.

Pete Moss wrote: »

What about the Super League? They reacted to that almost on the day as the news was breaking, just as every other football podcast did.

Similar type pods to huge football tournaments that come around every 2 years, like the Euros or WC, could be put out with the same presentation and delivery.

The Super announcement league was probably the most seismic moment in the history of the game, and the lads were probably available at short notice.
And in fairness, they have done "reaction" type shows the odd time - I'd say dependent on whether the lads were available at short notice or not.