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Sam Bennett - no same day spoilers

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    #1592
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    I also see Philipsen and Nizzolo are on the list too, very much a who's who apart from Demare!


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    #1593
    Dodge
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    mr spuckler wrote: »
    I also see Philipsen and Nizzolo are on the list too, very much a who's who apart from Demare!

    Morkov there too. It’s effectively every decent sprinter bar Demare. Should be fun to watch some of these sprints


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    #1594
    buffalo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,056 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Nice little interview: https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/i-know-im-30-but-i-feel-27-a-qa-with-sam-bennett/
    CT: You’ve got so many big stars in the team and some of them will have different goals. Are you expecting the Tour team to be built around your sprint goals or to have more mixed objectives?

    SB: It’s going to be quite mixed but now, like you said, people are kind of surfing more. So yeah, I do have a train and I have quite good guys in front of me but most of the time, in the final, we’re going to be moving with just three guys. We are surfing quite a bit. It’s kind of a mixture of surfing and a train, if that makes sense. Because you can’t come from the front and lead it out from 2 k. That’s just too long nowadays. So yeah, I’ll get all the support I need to be in the run for a victory.


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    #1595
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Knee injury for Sam. He’ll miss the Tour of Belgium to rest up for the Tour de France

    https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4979/sam-bennett-update


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    #1596
    happytramp
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    Can't help but feel he'll be undercooked for the tour.... 5 days racing in the last two months.


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    #1597
    griffin100
    Registered Users Posts: 4,774 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Dodge wrote: »
    Knee injury for Sam. He’ll miss the Tour of Belgium to rest up for the Tour de France

    https://www.deceuninck-quickstep.com/en/news/4979/sam-bennett-update

    Maybe Cav will be selected ahead of him. I wouldn’t put anything past Lefevere.


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    #1598
    DonegalBay
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    griffin100 wrote: »
    Maybe Cav will be selected ahead of him. I wouldn’t put anything past Lefevere.

    Yeah, going to say if Cav even shows some form here, I can see them shafting Bennett completely.


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    #1599
    CramCycle
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    The more cynical part of me thinks it is an attempt to throw competitors off Sam, they were starting to ignore all other race markers at the tail end with everyone trying to tag on or disrupt their sprint. I know it sounds like a fan boy thing but I will say it again, pound for pound, the best sprinter in the world for miles. Great for him to have the team to make it easier for him but in a drag race, I can't see anyone even coming close. The cameras from the front always make it look like a close knit victory but once you see the overhead cams in recent races of Sams, no one had a chance.


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    #1600
    brocbrocach
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    Ewan is every bit as good, usually with less help as well. I don't mean that to sound like knocking Sam because he's got himself to the very top but I think the next 5-10 years will be Ewan's.


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    #1601
    CramCycle
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    brocbrocach wrote: »
    Ewan is every bit as good, usually with less help as well. I don't mean that to sound like knocking Sam because he's got himself to the very top but I think the next 5-10 years will be Ewan's.

    There are times where tactically Ewan has been better, and again fan boy coming out, I think that has been the fault of Bora for knocking Sam for so long but in a drag race, Sam is dropping Ewan every time. DQT has sorted that out, and the few times Ewan has been up there it hasn't been much more than luck either for him or against Sam that had him competitive with Sam and regrettably for Sam, now that everyone is marking him, it may make Ewan look better but I actually don't believe it at the minute.


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    #1602
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    I think some of you are insane if you think DQT won’t pick Bennett for the Tour if he’s fit.


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    #1603
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Dodge wrote: »
    I think some of you are insane if you think DQT won’t pick Bennett for the Tour if he’s fit.

    I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that, although there is precedence for teams ommiting big riders who've announced their intention to leave since any world tour points they've amassed get transferred to their new team the following season.... Plus they'd still have Alaphillipe, who's by far their biggest cash cow for the tour.


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    #1604
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Junior


    Dodge wrote: »
    I think some of you are insane if you think DQT won’t pick Bennett for the Tour if he’s fit.


    Teams have a habit of saying one thing and doing another. Dropping riders from races and GTs because they are moving on. And while Lefevere is all business he will not hesitate to shaft someone.



    As for the comments about Ewan being a better sprinter, and having less workers, well he's had Kluge as his lead out man for the last longest while and you'd have to say they aren't as successful as a Morkov Pairing. You've also got to factor in Ewan never ever hits out from the front and always prefers to come at speed off other riders. He also has a habit of throwing the head if he's not there or there abouts. So his wins look better.


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    #1605
    Macy0161
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    They tend to drop them from the Vuelta, rather than the Tour, when they're moving on (if they're moving on). DQS would be nuts not to bring they're best percentage chance of a stage win. I'm with Dodge on this one, I really can't see it.


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    #1606
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    They tend to drop them from the Vuelta, rather than the Tour, when they're moving on (if they're moving on). DQS would be nuts not to bring they're best percentage chance of a stage win. I'm with Dodge on this one, I really can't see it.

    Exactly. It’s the races after August that teams get snippy about.

    The Tour is a whole different ball game


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    #1607
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    They tend to drop them from the Vuelta, rather than the Tour, when they're moving on (if they're moving on). DQS would be nuts not to bring they're best percentage chance of a stage win. I'm with Dodge on this one, I really can't see it.

    I think we all agree It's never going to happen... But it's also not beyond the realm of possibility that a volatile character like Lefevere could pull a move that may seem outlandish to everyone else.

    Like he's already opted against having a top sprinter for next season and personally I think their Giro was total basket case stuff. I'd never claim to be 100% certain of what's going through that guys head.


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    #1608
    Macy0161
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    I think there Giro looks much worse in hindsight to be honest. Almeida was definitely joint leader (probably main leader) losing that time while Remco minimized losses, I'd say most teams would've made Almeida wait on the gravel stage.


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    #1609
    MrMojoRisin'
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    If Cavendish + Morkov completely destroy Ewan, Merlier, Groneweggen etc in every sprint stage at this tour of Belgium though, surely its a much more difficult choice for Lefevere to leave Cavendish out of the tour.


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    #1610
    happytramp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭happytramp


    MrMojoRisin' wrote: »
    If Cavendish + Morkov completely destroy Ewan, Merlier, Groneweggen etc in every sprint stage at this tour of Belgium though, surely its a much more difficult choice for Lefevere to leave Cavendish out of the tour.

    That's a big if though... I'd be stunned if Cavendish started challenging Ewan.


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    #1611
    MrMojoRisin'
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭MrMojoRisin'


    It is! I'm looking forward to watching it one way or the other, even without Bennett


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    #1612
    dahat
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    First things first Cav needs to be on Morkovs wheel in the final, Morkov spent 100 yards looking for Cav the other day.


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    #1613
    TheBlaaMan
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    MrMojoRisin' wrote: »
    If Cavendish + Morkov completely destroy Ewan, Merlier, Groneweggen etc in every sprint stage at this tour of Belgium though, surely its a much more difficult choice for Lefevere to leave Cavendish out of the tour.


    And the opposite also applies, if Cav f's up the lead out at any point, it is going to go against him.
    I think the lack of prep. races for Sam in the leadup to the Tour is a bigger issue TBH


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    #1614
    [Deleted User]
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    Cavendish is not on the same level as the top 3 or 4 sprinters in the world. Cannot see him pulling off a stage win over the next few days. Though he will be close enough. Sam is going to the Tour. Main thing is he recovers and is in top shape.


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    #1615
    dahat
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    dahat wrote: »
    First things first Cav needs to be on Morkovs wheel in the final, Morkov spent 100 yards looking for Cav the other day.

    Exact same thing happened again. Best wheel in racing & he can’t follow it through when required.


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    #1616
    Weepsie
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Ffs people. What about no same day spoilers don't ye get. Bennets not even in the race and you're spoilng it.


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    #1617
    breezy1985
    Registered Users Posts: 24,582 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It doesn't just mean no Sam related same day spoilers lads


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    #1618
    deise08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    New signing for DQS?

    Indiana Jones icon Harrison Ford, 78, enjoys break from filming https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9672987/Indiana-Jones-icon-Harrison-Ford-78-gets-bike-break-filming-Northumberland.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead


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    #1619
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Ffs people. What about no same day spoilers don't ye get. Bennets not even in the race and you're spoilng it.

    Mea culpa here. I thought it was the other race day thread!

    Sorry folks


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    #1620
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Lefevre has his doubts that Sam will be ready for the Tour

    https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/sam-bennett-unsure-about-the-tour-de-france-will-cavendish-replace-him/

    Usual Lefevre caveats on anything he says…


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    #1621
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Junior


    He was on IG on Sunday riding his bike anyways ...


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