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The Hazards of Belief

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  • #9552
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Community of Nuns (well - 2 nuns really -) in Leap in trouble over total lack of planning permission.
    That particular issue, and the unusual lady behind it, have been rumbling along for many years in all kind of odd directions.

    Briefly, around twenty years ago, Irene Gibson collected cash, bought a place in Mayo, renovated it and opened it for prayers of a strongly catholic kind, then sat back and waited for crowds to arrive. Unfortunately, the venture didn't work out, as the place concerned was amongst the wettest in Ireland and remote to boot. RTE paid a visit in 2003 - see a 30-minute documentary here. A venture in Athlone didn't work out either and by 2016, Gibson was looking for somebody to lend/give her a caravan so she could move to a place near Rosscarbery in Co Cork. The Lord, however, provided and she purchased a small plot of land near the town and set up shop there, erecting a range of buildings of one kind or another. Unfortunately, the venture didn't work out as she had applied for, but not received planning permission for anything and the county council, on foot of objections from locals, stepped in to enforce regulations. She appeared a number of times on Joe Duffy to complain about planning. And of last September, the property was up for sale on the condition that the site was returned to its native state and the court action seems to have confirmed this.

    Rumour has it that Ms Gibson is currently in residence with - wait for it - none other than the good figure of Fr Ballini above, and his merry band of SSPX Resitanceers - as he runs a separate compound a few miles away, also catering for catholics of the strongly fundamentalist kind.

    Gibson announced a few months back that she, and presumably her new convert, will be heading to New Zealand to try again there. It's not clear how Gibson, presumably in her sixties at this point, will be permitted permanent entry into New Zealand, a country which has strong rules concerning immigration by elderly people.

    BTW, Gibson's one convert appeared on the front page of the Irish Times yesterday:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/new-zealand-woman-joins-nuns-in-cork-and-takes-vow-of-silence-1.3891163


  • #9553
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    As an aside do clerics get a free pass when it comes in immigration?
    Oddly enough no - Gibson's website above has a few PDF newsletters, one of which indicates that one of her priestly friends has been having visa trouble at Cork airport and was denied entry.
    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Isn't it wonderful when the reader can't be sure if it's a Poe or not? :D
    For reasons far too tedious to go into, I can assure you that Irene Gibson and Fr Ballini are very real figures indeed, and their beliefs are exactly as one would expect from hardline, catholic fundamentalists.


  • #9554
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    robindch wrote: »
    BTW, Gibson's one convert appeared on the front page of the Irish Times yesterday:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/new-zealand-woman-joins-nuns-in-cork-and-takes-vow-of-silence-1.3891163

    You could be forgiven for thinking someone's having a laugh, that nun looks rather familiar :)

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  • #9555
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Somebody put this up in AH

    The Polish civil rights activist who put up images of the Virgin Mary with a rainbow halo said she did so to protest against what she calls the "exclusion of LGBT people from society" by the country's Catholic Church.
    The images were placed around the city of Plock late last month by Elzbieta Podlesna, in reaction to an Easter display there featuring slogans about crimes or sins.

    Ms Podlesna works as a psychotherapist in a hospital. But early last week, police officers woke her shortly after 06:00 and searched her Warsaw apartment - confiscating laptops, a mobile telephone, pen drives and even a stack of old floppy discs.
    She was then taken to Plock for questioning and was charged with offending religious feelings - a crime in Poland, punishable by up to two years in prison.
    In a tweet, Poland's Interior Minister Joachim Brudzinski applauded the police's actions, writing: "All that nonsense about freedom and 'tolerance' does not give ANYONE the right to insult the feelings of the faithful".


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48257706


  • #9556
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,482 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/meps-express-deep-concerns-at-mcguinness-proposal-on-church-access-1.3893619
    A group of MEPs has voiced concerns about proposals from Fine Gael MEP Midlands North-West EU candidate Mair McGuinness to give churches and secular groups greater access to European Union institutions and MEPs.

    In a leaked report compiled by Ms McGuinness and obtained by news website OpenDemocracy, she proposes increasing dialogue between religious organisations and MEPs dealing with legislation proposed by the European Commission.

    “This would allow for individual partners to flag up dossiers where they feel they could make a particular contribution. The religious representatives expressed the view that such consultations would help ensure that policy considerations were not limited to narrow sectoral interests, but also took account of broader societal implications of policy and legislation and the need for the legislator to seek the common good,” the report states.

    Ms McGuinness, who is vice-president of the European Parliament, insisted that the proposed changes would apply to “all stakeholders” and are “not limited to any one group, so there would not be different levels of access for churches compared to secular groups”.

    However, MEPs who are part of the European Parliament Platform for Secularism in Politics expressed “deep concerns”, saying the report appears “to endorse” the views of the churches.

    Saying that the recommendations would be “a severe violation” of the principle of separation between religions and politics, if implemented, French MEP Virginie Rozi told OpenDemocracy that they are “completely crazy”.

    On Wednesday night, the Irish MEP said religious and philosophical opinion across the EU was consulted, including Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jewish, Mormon, Bahai, Hindu, Humanist and Masonic voices.

    The report complies with EU treaties and would not offer extra lobbying strength to individual groups, she insisted: “If anything, it is about bringing Europe closer to the people.”

    The next moves will be up to the next European Parliament, she said: “The proposals to the bureau were on the basis of which points were broadly supported, feasible and legally possible.”

    The churches underlined the presence they have “in virtually every city, town and village across the EU”, she said, and “emphasised the unique value” they offer as “a two-way conduit for discussion about European initiatives”.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9557
    CptMackey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    What is it with this constant need to consult with religious organisations.

    Keep them away from policy. Just look at the damage they have caused across the world


  • #9558
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Only one reason the god-botherers want this: abortion. Now they want to slime into EU politics even more than now. Fuhgeddaboutit.


  • #9559
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I think we're going to need a bigger milkshake.
    Farage was milkshook earlier today:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711
    BBC wrote:
    Paul Crowther, 32, from Throckley, Newcastle, said it was a £5.25 Five Guys banana and salted caramel milkshake.

    480776.jpg


  • #9560
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    robindch wrote: »
    Farage was milkshook earlier today:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-48339711



    480776.jpg

    Whats this got to do with hazards of belief ?

    Or are you so happy that your Islamist hero who originally threw one at Robinson has a cult following now ?


  • #9561
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Hector Savage wrote: »

    Or are you so happy that your Islamist hero who originally threw one at Robinson has a cult following now ?

    Mod: This is borderline attacking the poster - to be kind about it - and therefore a thing frowned upon in these here parts -be less savage and hectoring if you wish to continue posting here.

    Thanking you.


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  • #9562
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Whats this got to do with hazards of belief ?

    Or are you so happy that your Islamist hero who originally threw one at Robinson has a cult following now ?

    You see brown skin and jump to this conclusion? Or can you back this claim up with evidence?


  • #9563
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Whats this got to do with hazards of belief?
    Not all that much since it should have gone into the right-wing fruitcakes thread - or indeed, the left-wing nut thread, as it seems you'd prefer :rolleyes:


  • #9564
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You see brown skin and jump to this conclusion?
    The belief that non-African dark skin means "islam" means "invaaaaaaaders!!!" certainly seems to be a common hazard amongst certain right-wing populist poo-stirrers.


  • #9565
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Whats this got to do with hazards of belief ?

    Or are you so happy that your Islamist hero who originally threw one at Robinson has a cult following now ?




    You have evidence this person is indeed an "Islamist"?


  • #9566
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Odhinn wrote: »
    You have evidence this person is indeed an "Islamist"?

    Saying "insha'Allah" in the back of the police car, seems pretty into Islam to me.
    Doubt he's exactly secular now is he ?

    And not to you, but others calling me racist ... :D .. yeah , it's "racism".

    sometimes I wish all other things being equal Islam was predominantly practiced by white Australians.
    Christ it would be banned in the west, banned outright as pure hateful ideology.


  • #9567
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Saying "insha'Allah" in the back of the police car, seems pretty into Islam to me.
    Doubt he's exactly secular now is he ?

    .............


    I've been known on a reasonably regular basis to say "for jaysus sake", "divine jaysus", "mother of divine jaysus". This does not me a practicing catholic make.


  • #9568
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Saying "insha'Allah" in the back of the police car, seems pretty into Islam to me.
    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Christ it would be banned in the west, banned outright as pure hateful ideology.

    Seems you just made yourself a Christian.


  • #9569
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Saying "insha'Allah" in the back of the police car, seems pretty into Islam to me.
    Doubt he's exactly secular now is he ?

    And not to you, but others calling me racist ... :D .. yeah , it's "racism".

    sometimes I wish all other things being equal Islam was predominantly practiced by white Australians.
    Christ it would be banned in the west, banned outright as pure hateful ideology.

    Thats the same as you saying "ill be home in an hour please god"

    It doesnt maje anyone an "islamist"

    Clutching at racist straws to say the least :rolleyes:


  • #9570
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I've been known on a reasonably regular basis to say "for jaysus sake", "divine jaysus", "mother of divine jaysus". This does not me a practicing catholic make.
    I'm a big fan of "oh-fer-christs-sake" and "for the love of divine holy jesus and all the saints".

    Not sure that I'd be counted a church-going militant catholic though.


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  • #9571
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of "oh-fer-christs-sake" and "for the love of divine holy jesus and all the saints".

    Not sure that I'd be counted a church-going militant catholic though.

    Generally if I am heard to say JesusChristAllMighty! it's best to stay clear of me as something has just gone pear shaped and I'm in search of a target to vent at.
    Do I think JesusChrist is all mighty? Do I uck.


  • #9572
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    robindch wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of "oh-fer-christs-sake" and "for the love of divine holy jesus and all the saints".

    Not sure that I'd be counted a church-going militant catholic though.

    During the repeal movement last year, if we were greeted with "Dia Dhuit" or "Dia agus Muire" our reply was "Repeal the Eighth!"

    Nowadays, "Dia Dhuit" gets "Conas t'ann tu" (How are you). "Le cuiniv Dei" (God willing) we now say "Le cuiniv Trump" (my Irish spelling is poor.)

    Most of our Gaelgoir friends have stopped with the god crap with us as a result.

    And they're still our friends, too. Moving here from the US, first impression was that there is a much stronger anti-RCC sentiment here than the US was. Refreshing!


  • #9573
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I've been known on a reasonably regular basis to say "for jaysus sake", "divine jaysus", "mother of divine jaysus". This does not me a practicing catholic make.

    disingenuous at best.
    You say it in a blasphemous way almost, nothing religious about it at all - same as myself I say those things a lot too.

    The thing is if he were a western christian and had did the same to Diane abbot and afterwards in the police car (under arrest this time) he'd said "Jesus Willing" , "God willing" everyone here would be sneering at the religious idiot and how hateful his beliefs make him etc ..


  • #9574
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Igotadose wrote: »
    During the repeal movement last year, if we were greeted with "Dia Dhuit" or "Dia agus Muire" our reply was "Repeal the Eighth!"

    Nowadays, "Dia Dhuit" gets "Conas t'ann tu" (How are you). "Le cuiniv Dei" (God willing) we now say "Le cuiniv Trump" (my Irish spelling is poor.)

    Most of our Gaelgoir friends have stopped with the god crap with us as a result.

    And they're still our friends, too. Moving here from the US, first impression was that there is a much stronger anti-RCC sentiment here than the US was. Refreshing!


    Yes indeed, anti RCC is "progressive" , while anything remotely anti Islam is "racist"

    We have a long way to go.


  • #9575
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    disingenuous at best.
    You say it in a blasphemous way almost, nothing religious about it at all - same as myself I say those things a lot too.

    The thing is if he were a western christian and had did the same to Diane abbot and afterwards in the police car (under arrest this time) he'd said "Jesus Willing" , "God willing" everyone here would be sneering at the religious idiot and how hateful his beliefs make him etc ..

    How do you know he said this anyway? Not that it matters, Muslims say that the same way as catholics in ireland say "please god".


  • #9576
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Igotadose wrote: »
    During the repeal movement last year, if we were greeted with "Dia Dhuit" or "Dia agus Muire" our reply was "Repeal the Eighth!"

    Nowadays, "Dia Dhuit" gets "Conas t'ann tu" (How are you). "Le cuiniv Dei" (God willing) we now say "Le cuiniv Trump" (my Irish spelling is poor.)

    Most of our Gaelgoir friends have stopped with the god crap with us as a result.

    And they're still our friends, too. Moving here from the US, first impression was that there is a much stronger anti-RCC sentiment here than the US was. Refreshing!

    People are entitled to their beliefs


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  • #9577
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    The thing is if he were a western christian and had did the same to Diane abbot and afterwards in the police car (under arrest this time) he'd said "Jesus Willing" , "God willing" everyone here would be sneering at the religious idiot and how hateful his beliefs make him etc ..


    You are literally making up stuff to complain about.


  • #9578
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    branie2 wrote: »
    People are entitled to their beliefs

    Agree 100%, but don;t hold up someone with a fairytale nonsense belief as a hero, whatever you think of TR.


  • #9579
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    How do you know he said this anyway? Not that it matters, Muslims say that the same way as catholics in ireland say "please god".

    There's a video somewhere of him in the back of the car after it happened.


  • #9580
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,645 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    There's a video somewhere of him in the back of the car after it happened.

    1st am hearing anything about it. As i said not that it matters.


  • #9581
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Let's leave it, I'll agree I am being slightly presumptious, but I still would not clap what he did, it's one thug v another (mind you I do think TR is spot on re: Islam - Douglas Murray is a better role model)


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  • #9582
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    disingenuous at best.
    You say it in a blasphemous way almost, nothing religious about it at all - same as myself I say those things a lot too.
    .


    Hypocritical double standards I'd say.



    Basing the claim of "Islamist" on the use of such a term says far more about the accuser than the accused.


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    The thing is if he were a western christian and had did the same to Diane abbot and afterwards in the police car (under arrest this time) he'd said "Jesus Willing" , "God willing" everyone here would be sneering at the religious idiot and how hateful his beliefs make him etc ..


    Nope.


  • #9583
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A guide to the "concentration camps of the future" with Gemma O'Doherty



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZkIfiKNp3A


  • #9584
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,482 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Saying "insha'Allah" in the back of the police car, seems pretty into Islam to me.

    And every Irish person who's ever said "god willin'" is in the Provisional IRA. :rolleyes:

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9585
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,482 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    According to here one of the US's most notorious 'prosperity gospel' charlatans flew into Dublin last night by private jet

    The next post says he has a gig at the Red Cow - I haven't heard anything but don't move in the right sort of circles I suppose :p

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9586
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Red Cow from 3pm until 9pm tomorrow:

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/victory-church-welcome-dr-jesse-duplantis-dr-cathy-duplantis-tickets-60007690618

    Are the pickings good enough out Red Cow way to keep a $20 million jet in the air?

    Registration seems to be free which seems brave in the light of ticket-allocation issues which surfaced during the last major christian figure to visit Ireland.


  • #9587
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,482 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    This is a quote from the abortion thread but my reply doesn't belong there:
    volchitsa wrote: »
    Compare that to the uproar when Ali Selim used the 8th amendment travel exception to suggest that Muslim families would be allowed to travel abroad to have FGM for their daughters. IIRC he even had to withdraw the comment.

    I didn't hear about the story below though and nobody elsewhere on Boards seems to have noticed it either:

    Trinity lecturer wins unfair dismissal case over female circumcision comments
    Tue, Apr 23, 2019

    A university lecturer at the centre of controversy last year over television comments he made about female genital mutilation (FGM) has won his unfair dismissal case against Trinity College Dublin (TCD).

    Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) adjudication officer Penelope McGrath has ordered TCD to pay Arabic lecturer Dr Ali Selim €6,144 after finding he was unfairly dismissed by the college last September.

    Dr Selim is one of the leading figures in the Irish Muslim community. Ms McGrath has ordered TCD to pay Dr Selim €4,000 for his unfair dismissal, €1,644 for non-payment of notice and €500 for not receiving his written terms of employment.

    Dr Selim’s unfair dismissal came seven months after comments he made on RTɒs Primetime on female circumcision sparked widespread criticism from students at TCD, doctors and other Islamic leaders.

    Dr Selim told Primetime that female circumcision is acceptable in some cases where it is carried out by a doctor and practised in a safe environment.

    Days after the interview, Dr Selim apologised and stated that he condemned FGM in the strongest terms.

    He said: “I admit that I caused confusion based on my misunderstanding of the term [circumcision] and I do apologise for this ... I was out of my comfort zone and I misunderstood the terms as the medical experts would use them.”

    Referring to the controversy in her findings, Ms McGrath stated Dr Selim “got caught up in a wave of negative publicity” arising from the comments.

    Ms McGrath said Dr Selim had subsequently asserted that he had been misinterpreted but “there can be no doubt that the damage had already been done and as his “views” came to be known on the campus these was a significant backlash against him. Students protested and boycotted his classes”.

    In the days after Dr Selim’s appearance on Primetime, TCD confirmed that a different lecturer would teach Dr Selim’s Arabic language students who were offended by his remarks.

    TCD confirmed the move in response to complaints “from a large number of Dr Ali Selim’s students”.

    In her report on the case, Ms McGrath stated she accepts fully that the majority of Dr Selim’s existing students did not avail of the alternative lecturer and Dr Selim himself suggests those that left him may not have known him as well as his 3rd and 4th year students.

    In September 2018, TCD told Dr Selim his services were no longer required.

    Offering its rationale for no longer employing Dr Selim, TCD told the commission his core subjects were not being availed of by students.

    The college stated whether that was because of a general disinterest or an active movement to boycott his classes is unknown to the university.

    TCD stated either way, it could not retain Dr Selim to give classes that no-one would attend.

    In response, Dr Selim stated he was never provided by TCD with a cogent reason for letting him go. He asserted that TCD “lacked the fortitude” to retain him as a lecturer when his retention might have been unpopular with the student body arising out of cultural differences.Ms McGrath found that TCD’s actions were “inadequate”.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9588
    mikhail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    €6k for unfair dismissal? That's maybe a month's gross pay for an experienced lecturer. Seems kind of like a token award, but I don't know how these things usually go.


  • #9589
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Leading creationist Doctor Doctor Ken Ham, prezzident of Answers in Genesis, and builder of "Ark Encouter", an allegedly life-size replica of Noah's Ark, is suing his insurers for failing to pay out for - wait for it - rain damage:

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/ark-encounter-owners-sue-insurers-over-rain-damage-property/1223418001/


  • #9590
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    The irony!


  • #9591
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    "Frau Merkel’s agents of Communism Lidl hate Ireland, Sunday and the family*"






    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yELAcSIqTHo



    *includes rants on sex, pope francis, tattoos & piercings, "green" hedonists, RTE, Freemasons in Ballsbridge, multiculturalism, the muslims taking over


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  • #9592
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,482 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    She needs professional help.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9593
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    robindch wrote: »
    Leading creationist Doctor Doctor Ken Ham, prezzident of Answers in Genesis, and builder of "Ark Encouter", an allegedly life-size replica of Noah's Ark, is suing his insurers for failing to pay out for - wait for it - rain damage:

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/24/ark-encounter-owners-sue-insurers-over-rain-damage-property/1223418001/

    I wonder if their insurer will claim the rain damage was an "Act of God!"

    BAH-DUM-DUM TSSSH


  • #9594
    robindch
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    "I don't think he was a religious man by the way he was screaming and shouting at people."

    https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/noss-mayo-bell-ringing-fight-2941052

    Carl Eve, Crime Reporter, should win an award for the final line in the story.


  • #9595
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Four hours of vigorous bell-ringing is a bit much.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9596
    Odhinn
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Four hours of vigorous bell-ringing is a bit much.




    Makes you go blind, so they say.


  • #9597
    robindch
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    Police have extended their enquiries about that ding-dong in the church:

    https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/man-vows-end-appalling-bell-2945556


  • #9598
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Trouble at t'Mill Mall...

    Blame game over closure of chapel in Dublin’s Ilac Centre
    The chapel at Dublin’s Ilac Centre has been closed as a result of a management decision, Dublin’s Catholic archdiocese has said.

    However, spokeswoman for the shopping centre denied this and advised the The Irish Times to “contact Marlborough Street”, a reference to the Pro-Cathedral in Dublin city centre, about the matter. She said management at the Ilac would not be taking any more calls on the matter.

    A spokeswoman at the Pro-Cathedral repeated that the chapel had been closed by decision of the Ilac Centre’s management.

    A spokeswoman for the Dublin Archdiocese said “the decision to close the Chapel in the Ilac Centre was taken by the management company.

    “Catholics who wish to have quiet time to pray in the city centre are invited to consider St Saviour’s Church on Dominic Street, just a few minutes’ walk from the Ilac Centre, also a short distance away is St Martin’s Oratory in Parnell Square,” she said. “Other places of worship in the locality include St Mary’s Pro- Cathedral on Marlborough Street and the Blessed Sacrament Chapel on Bachelors Walk.”

    According to the Ilac Centre website: “Tucked away under the library on the ground floor of the shopping centre, this little chapel offers a place of solitude and peace.”

    A woman named Ann rang RTE's Liveline programme to express her unhappiness at the sudden closure of the chapel. She said there had been no announcement or notification of the closure after 50 years, and it saddened to see it had shut for good.

    Hated it many years ago when my mother would make us go in there when we were on a shopping trip :(

    Scrap the cap!



  • #9599
    [Deleted User]
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Trouble at t'Mill Mall...

    Blame game over closure of chapel in Dublin’s Ilac Centre



    Hated it many years ago when my mother would make us go in there when we were on a shopping trip :(

    Used to be a favorite spot for either a snooze or a spot of pickpocket/purse dipping for the local addicts back when I worked security, I'm sure it'll be sorely missed by them for both reasons.


  • #9600
    Bannasidhe
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Trouble at t'Mill Mall...

    Blame game over closure of chapel in Dublin’s Ilac Centre



    Hated it many years ago when my mother would make us go in there when we were on a shopping trip :(

    There was a chapel in the shopping centre?!?!? :eek::rolleyes:

    Would it have been too much for the faithful to, you know, walk to one of the very nearby designated places of worship??


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  • #9601
    Peregrinus
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    There was a chapel in the shopping centre?!?!? :eek::rolleyes:

    Would it have been too much for the faithful to, you know, walk to one of the very nearby designated places of worship??
    They did. The chapel, a "nearby designated place of worship", was usually accessed on foot.


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