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Saorview Connect

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  • #3202
    AngryLips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Danno wrote: »
    It doesn't. With no moving parts I'd thought this would be the best option.

    There was no problem with it for the last few weeks of recording, so why now?


    I just remember reading somewhere that an independently powered hard-drive will be less prone to skipping


  • #3203
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    AngryLips wrote: »
    I just remember reading somewhere that an independently powered hard-drive will be less prone to skipping

    I would expect that from a standard HDD with spinning plates, but with a SSD there is no major power drain on the USB port.

    It was fine for a few weeks, but now is acting up - so it's a strange one to say the least.


  • #3204
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Got on to Saorview. The Connect box doesn't support SSD.

    What a pile of dung.


  • #3205
    lsjmhar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Just buy a hdd. Use the SSD for another device!


  • #3206
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Keep the SSD and ditch the Connect box!


  • #3207
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    JDxtra wrote: »
    Keep the SSD and ditch the Connect box!
    Off topic but ...

    The trend with SSD's is to stuff more bits per cell.

    So a 750GB drive may really be a 250GB drive with three bits squashed into each cell.

    So the voltage tolerances are 8 times narrower. And in reality that can translate to 10 times less write cycles per cell.


  • #3208
    monkeycork
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭monkeycork


    What would be an ideal ssd to avoid any such issues?


  • #3209
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    monkeycork wrote: »
    What would be an ideal ssd to avoid any such issues?

    I'm using a 512gb SSD.

    The helpline advice was to disconnect the SDD and factory reset the connect box.

    Interestingly, I reset the box and reconnected the SSD and it's working fine since.

    It's unusual that a SSD can cause such issues. Even a crappy OS like Windows can run without issue on SSD.


  • #3210
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Is there a Saorview Plus recorder still on the market? The only thing I see are Connect units.


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  • #3211
    lanod2407
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭lanod2407


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Is there a Saorview Plus recorder still on the market? The only thing I see are Connect units.

    Unless there's been a seismic shift in product offering recently the Connect box is it!
    You can record on it with an external hard drive.

    I'm sure it's been said a thousand times here - this was so simple
    1. A good quality box with internal HD. Whats been delivered has no internal HD and it's built by PowerPoint.
    2. Make the interface between satellite and Saorview seamless. It's clunky as hell.


  • #3212
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I have no interest in Connect box for the reasons you just outlined. It was just a thought for recording some RTE imports late night, freesat is my main platform with saorview built in to the telly.


  • #3213
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I have no interest in Connect box for the reasons you just outlined. It was just a thought for recording some RTE imports late night, freesat is my main platform with saorview built in to the telly.

    Can your TV not record Saorview via External Hardrive?


  • #3214
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    Can your TV not record Saorview via External Hardrive?

    My TV can, but then it occupies the TV so you cannot watch anything else. Bit pointless.


  • #3215
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    My TV can, but then it occupies the TV so you cannot watch anything else. Bit pointless.

    But most modern TVs have the ability to record Saorview while watching something else on HDMI1 or Netflix, YouTube etc.


  • #3216
    Ten Pin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    It was just a thought for recording some RTE imports late night, freesat is my main platform with saorview built in to the telly.

    If your TV doesn't have USB PVR, then something like this...
    https://www.freetv.ie/digital-tv/
    40 euro delivered.


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  • #3217
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Interesting. Could I use a HDMI splitter (TV only has one socket, does have a SCART as well for SD) or would I need to swap out the freesat for the Edision unit?


  • #3218
    meelick
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭meelick


    After catching up on this thread after a year or two, I'm so glad I returned my connect box. I built an alternative based on a tvheadend server, feeding to a Raspberry Pi running Kodi on all the TV's in the house. I now have an EPG with both Saorview and Freeview channels, I can pause live tv, set up recording rules (like series link), etc. I got Microsoft media server remotes for each tv, and it works great. Not for the faint of heart though, it took me a lot of time to get it all working properly. Here's a link to an overview. http://www.davidhunt.ie/new-home-tv-distribution-system-no-more-sky/ I hope someone finds the link useful.
    Rgds,
    Dave.


  • #3219
    lowbatt07
    Registered Users Posts: 186 ✭✭lowbatt07


    meelick wrote: »
    After catching up on this thread after a year or two, I'm so glad I returned my connect box. I built an alternative based on a tvheadend server, feeding to a Raspberry Pi running Kodi on all the TV's in the house. I now have an EPG with both Saorview and Freeview channels, I can pause live tv, set up recording rules (like series link), etc. I got Microsoft media server remotes for each tv, and it works great. Not for the faint of heart though, it took me a lot of time to get it all working properly. Here's a link to an overview. http://www.davidhunt.ie/new-home-tv-distribution-system-no-more-sky/ I hope someone finds the link useful.
    Rgds,
    Dave.

    Thanks for the post -I’ve been thinking of an FTA OTA DVR system also. Was hoping fire tv recast but won’t work here then debated hdhomrun with plex pass for dvr

    I’ve heard tvheadend before , just look into it. When you say freeview , just want to confirm you mean freeview as opposed to freesat ? Freeview pretty difficult to receive , would be handy to have Irish & Uk channels on a terrestrial signal


  • #3220
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    lowbatt07 wrote: »
    Thanks for the post -I’ve been thinking of an FTA OTA DVR system also. Was hoping fire tv recast but won’t work here then debated hdhomrun with plex pass for dvr

    I’ve heard tvheadend before , just look into it. When you say freeview , just want to confirm you mean freeview as opposed to freesat ? Freeview pretty difficult to receive , would be handy to have Irish & Uk channels on a terrestrial signal

    FTA Satellite is what is meant I believe, as the blog mentions a Satellite Tuner box.

    There are several threads in the HTPC section of Boards regarding this type of set up.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=643


  • #3221
    meelick
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭meelick


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    FTA Satellite is what is meant I believe, as the blog mentions a Satellite Tuner box.

    Yes, that's the one. 4-input Telestar Digibit R1 box used.

    Thanks,
    Dave.


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  • #3222
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Using the on-demand RTE Player on Saorview Connect and the twats have Audio Description on by default with no way of turning it off - even though the accessibility settings on the box says it's off.
    Overpaid and underqualified muppets.


  • #3223
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Danno wrote: »
    Using the on-demand RTE Player on Saorview Connect and the twats have Audio Description on by default with no way of turning it off - even though the accessibility settings on the box says it's off.
    Overpaid and underqualified muppets.

    Try pressing 'Exit' twice, or the equivalent. That is what works on the Humax Foxsat to turn off the AD.

    It is worth trying anyway.


  • #3224
    MACHEAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭MACHEAD


    Danno wrote: »
    Using the on-demand RTE Player on Saorview Connect and the twats have Audio Description on by default with no way of turning it off - even though the accessibility settings on the box says it's off.
    Overpaid and underqualified muppets.


    It's the same (intermittently) on Apple TV version of the RTÉ Player as well.


  • #3225
    n1st
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭n1st


    Is Saorview Connect a dud?

    I just got one today to replace my Ferguson Ariva.

    Set it up this evening and it froze after getting the Firmware update.

    Is it stable?

    The need to switch between terrestrial and satellite is not good, Ferguson Ariva did not have this, all channels were on same list.


  • #3226
    n1st
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭n1st


    n1st wrote: »
    Is Saorview Connect a dud?

    I just got one today to replace my Ferguson Ariva.

    Set it up this evening and it froze after getting the Firmware update.

    Is it stable?

    The need to switch between terrestrial and satellite is not good, Ferguson Ariva did not have this, all channels were on same list.


    After Firmware update it will no longer find all the satellite channels, only 10.


  • #3227
    dedaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭dedaw


    Folks, looking for some help.
    We've just moved into a house with Saorview. We've tuned 2 LG TV's to Saorview, one of them is perfect, the other is unwatchable. Both sound and picture are terrible.
    I've tried a few times to tune it again but it's always the same.
    Any advice?


  • #3228
    decor58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭decor58


    dedaw wrote: »
    Folks, looking for some help.
    We've just moved into a house with Saorview. We've tuned 2 LG TV's to Saorview, one of them is perfect, the other is unwatchable. Both sound and picture are terrible.
    I've tried a few times to tune it again but it's always the same.
    Any advice?
    Have you tried tuning both in the perfect location, that way you will know of its the TV or the cable.


  • #3229
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Many might have said Saorview Disconnect and get a better box,eg,Zgemma h7s twin sat and saorview.


  • #3230
    n1st
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭n1st


    greasepalm wrote: »
    Many might have said Saorview Disconnect and get a better box,eg,Zgemma h7s twin sat and saorview.

    I returned the Saorview Connect box and bought a Ferguson Ariva online.

    I should have known when your man in Expert Electric said it was made for Irish Saorview, anything with Irish government involved is bound to be over complicated and cost too much.

    I found it difficult to find a proper forum on the device.


  • #3231
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Lack of support and many things fail and people wonder why.


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  • #3232
    dedaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭dedaw


    decor58 wrote: »
    Have you tried tuning both in the perfect location, that way you will know of its the TV or the cable.


    Thanks for that. Sorted. Yep, it was the cable.


  • #3233
    Qrt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Qrt


    Anyone experienced odd power issues with the box? It’s started doing this thing where sometimes if it goes into standby, it won’t come back on. Similar thing happens when turning it on, it’s like it won’t boot up.


  • #3234
    slinky2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    Such a shame to see this where it is.

    This box had such potential and could have been a mega success.


  • #3235
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Qrt wrote: »
    Anyone experienced odd power issues with the box? It’s started doing this thing where sometimes if it goes into standby, it won’t come back on. Similar thing happens when turning it on, it’s like it won’t boot up.

    That is like a power supply fault that is protecting the unit by shutting down. Very hard to identify where it is coming from - it could be anywhere and could be heat related.


  • #3236
    Pat6519
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Pat6519


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    That is like a power supply fault that is protecting the unit by shutting down. Very hard to identify where it is coming from - it could be anywhere and could be heat related.

    I've had the same issues with the Saorview Connect box shutting down by itself for no apparent reason. Also it sometimes does not boot up. I have found that when I disconnect the portable hard drive, then the box behaves a lot better. But that's not a long term solution obviously. It seems to be just badly designed and badly built, in my opinion.


  • #3237
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Pat6519 wrote: »
    I've had the same issues with the Saorview Connect box shutting down by itself for no apparent reason. Also it sometimes does not boot up. I have found that when I disconnect the portable hard drive, then the box behaves a lot better. But that's not a long term solution obviously. It seems to be just badly designed and badly built, in my opinion.

    Is your HD separately powered? The box may not be able reliably to power a hard disk.


  • #3238
    Pat6519
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Pat6519


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Is your HD separately powered? The box may not be able reliably to power a hard disk.

    No, the HD does not have it's own power supply. The Saorview manual just says use any HD with a 3.0 usb connection. It doesn't specify that the HD be powered separately.
    But I understand your point, and that will probably be the next step. Buy a new HD with it's own power supply.


  • #3239
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Pat6519 wrote: »
    No, the HD does not have it's own power supply. The Saorview manual just says use any HD with a 3.0 usb connection. It doesn't specify that the HD be powered separately.
    But I understand your point, and that will probably be the next step. Buy a new HD with it's own power supply.

    They should have offered a version with an internal HD or at least provision for one. They missed the boat on this - too little, too late. It is not even priced well - plenty of better products at substantially lower prices.

    It is the software that lets it down. The RTE player tries to put advertising revenue front and centre rather than performance and reliability.


  • #3240
    Qrt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Qrt


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    That is like a power supply fault that is protecting the unit by shutting down. Very hard to identify where it is coming from - it could be anywhere and could be heat related.

    True, but it's been running rather okay for over two years now. Maybe it needs a dusting?


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  • #3241
    Pat6519
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Pat6519


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    They should have offered a version with an internal HD or at least provision for one. They missed the boat on this - too little, too late. It is not even priced well - plenty of better products at substantially lower prices.

    It is the software that lets it down. The RTE player tries to put advertising revenue front and centre rather than performance and reliability.
    And speaking of software, the Saorview Connect box could not even manage the clocks going back last weekend.
    Recordings that I had set manually for Satellite channels are this week all recording 1 hour earlier than I had originally created.
    So if I had it set to record BBC2 every Thursday at 9pm, now it is recording at 8pm since the clocks changed.
    But it's managing series record on the Saorview channels fine.


  • #3242
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Pat6519 wrote: »
    And speaking of software, the Saorview Connect box could not even manage the clocks going back last weekend.
    Recordings that I had set manually for Satellite channels are this week all recording 1 hour earlier than I had originally created.
    So if I had it set to record BBC2 every Thursday at 9pm, now it is recording at 8pm since the clocks changed.
    But it's managing series record on the Saorview channels fine.

    They refused to set Saorview to use the UK D-book standard for recording, keeping strictly to Nordig standards, but could have allowed the same process as was allowed initially, until they found out about it.

    If they had, we could use UK terrestrial recorders.


  • #3243
    theglobe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭theglobe


    Hi, I am a bit lost with all the information on the different boxes. Which box would ye recommend for the basic Irish and UK channels? Thanks for our help.


  • #3244
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    theglobe wrote: »
    Hi, I am a bit lost with all the information on the different boxes. Which box would ye recommend for the basic Irish and UK channels? Thanks for our help.

    Not the connect box!


  • #3245
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    theglobe wrote: »
    Hi, I am a bit lost with all the information on the different boxes. Which box would ye recommend for the basic Irish and UK channels? Thanks for our help.


    Look at enigma2 receivers eg Zgemma H7s


  • #3246
    Antrim_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Antrim_Man


    How old are these now, surely a new model is due?


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  • #3247
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Yes as looking for a new working model of a vhs vcr:eek::eek::D:D


  • #3248
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Or even a working model of the Connect box.


  • #3249
    FRIENDO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭FRIENDO


    It's a pity Walker didn't make a Connect box


  • #3250
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    I have a faulty Walker box for saorview and issues after warranty


  • #3251
    AngryLips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    So what's a good freesat box to get? One with a nice interface, to replace this unreliable box.


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