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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • #152
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Naming them could save thousands more children from being raped. So my answer is yes

    So anyone who's accused or anyone found guilty?


  • #153
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    20Cent wrote: »
    Crimes against children always have special restrictions so that the children's identities can be protected. No conspiracy here. He was warned already and ignored the warning.

    Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.


  • #154
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Grayson wrote: »
    So anyone who's accused or anyone found guilty?

    Take a look at the guys on the video that went to court yesterday. Do you really believe that they are innocent?


  • #155
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Take a look at the guys on the video that went to court yesterday. Do you really believe that they are innocent?

    That's not an answer. Do you think that people's names should be made public when they're accused? Or just when found guilty?


  • #156
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.

    The trial is ongoing. Robinson could have collapsed the case and those guys get off scott free. Their faces will be plastered all over the media after being found guilty.


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  • #157
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.

    In this post someone quotes a news article where the judge specifically mentions jurors

    Edit: just read that article and it's from last years case. Then he filmed inside the building and also because of him being there the jurors and defendants had to be led out through a side entrance. It could be something similar here. But until he's actually in court we won't know the reasons behind the charges.


  • #158
    malinheader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Grayson wrote: »
    I've never done that once. My whole post history is available for you to search. Go find a single post where I said or even implied any such thing.

    Or we can all assume that you're a liar.

    You notice how even Tommy Robinsons supporters didn't click like on your post? That's how fcuking dumb it is. They know you're just making sh1t up. Even in a very polarised discussion, people who should be on your side don't want to be associated with you. Even though they disagree with me they wouldn't even ascribe that to me.

    Pure childish post telling someone they didn't get there post liked . And if you had bothered to follow the thread you would see that not everyone who is disgusted by the case and the way Robinson was treated is a supporter of his. A lot of people fear this will be brushed under the carpet again like A lot of things these days.


  • #159
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Grayson wrote: »
    That's not an answer. Do you think that people's names should be made public when they're accused? Or just when found guilty?

    Where’s your answer when asked to prove he’s a racist?


  • #160
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    malinheader wrote: »
    Pure childish post telling someone they didn't get there post liked . And if you had bothered to follow the thread you would see that not everyone who is disgusted by the case and the way Robinson was treated is a supporter of his. A lot of people fear this will be brushed under the carpet again like A lot of things these days.

    So you agree with him that I support suicide bombers?

    I'm pointing out that even people who disagree with me wouldn't even agree with him. It's not about how much people "like" him but how they don't agree with him on that. It wasn't about showing a lack of popularity but a lack of agreement. But you knew that didn't you.

    You however seen to like your point scoring. So how about you take on the challenge of defending his post? Or you could agree with me that it was stupid and an utter lie.


  • #161
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    Where’s your answer when asked to prove he’s a racist?

    Others have already posted up racist tweets if his.


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  • #162
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    So the difference between this case and that of say something from the metoo campaign is that there are minors involved?


  • #163
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I must say I'm very shocked to read that supporters of Tommy are more interested in ogling at the photos of paedophiles than protecting the identies of their victims. Tommy himself is not like that at all.


  • #164
    malinheader
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Grayson wrote: »
    So you agree with him that I support suicide bombers?

    I'm pointing out that even people who disagree with me wouldn't even agree with him. It's not about how much people "like" him but how they don't agree with him on that. It wasn't about showing a lack of popularity but a lack of agreement. But you knew that didn't you.

    You however seen to like your point scoring. So how about you take on the challenge of defending his post? Or you could agree with me that it was stupid and an utter lie.
    point scoring, lying, stupid posts. Seems to me point scoring is more a trait of your own. Don't get upset if I don't like your post.


  • #165
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    If anybody would like to imitate their hero Tommy. There are plenty of child abuse cases in Ireland ongoing with reporting restrictions in place.

    You just need to turn up outside the court, pretend your a journalist just like Tommy, and start live streaming and videoing people going into court.

    Let us know how you got on, after you get out of prison.


  • #166
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Fake racist tweets that a 5 year old could put together.


    Must try harder


  • #167
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    The same people on here defending Robinson would be having a field day if a Muslim grooming gang got off a conviction because of a mistrial. Court reporting restrictions exist for a reason. Robinson could have reported on the trial like anyone else but that wouldn't have gotten him in the news. He gambled that he'd be treated lightly and he lost.


  • #168
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,630 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    dav3 wrote: »
    If anybody would like to imitate their hero Tommy. There are plenty of child abuse cases in Ireland ongoing with reporting restrictions in place.

    You just need to turn up outside the court, pretend your a journalist just like Tommy, and start live streaming and videoing people going into court.

    Let us know how you got on, after you get out of prison.

    Can i do this for all child abuse cases or do they have to be Muslim ones?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #169
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    malinheader wrote: »
    point scoring, lying, stupid posts. Seems to me point scoring is more a trait of your own. Don't get upset if I don't like your post.

    What is wrong with you? You're actually attacking me for a post where I pointed out that no-one else here think I support suicide bombers


  • #170
    Taytoland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Taytoland


    Should not have filmed them if he was told not to do so especially on a suspended sentence. So his own fault in that regard. We do not need to see videos on these Pakistani Muslim gangs who rape children all over the country, we all know they exist.

    I don't blame him for his views on Islamism, I hold similar views to him on it.


  • #171
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,630 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I know this is going to sound pedantic, and I know there's a rule against grammar Nazism, but can we PLEASE got one thing straight?

    There are no such words as "Muslimism" or "Islamsism": Islam is the religion; a Muslim is the person who practices the religion.

    Sorry to go back to basics, but if you want to try and give the impression that you know what you're talking about when it comes to religious ethnic groups and their influence on societal community relations, getting the basic words right is kind of a pre-requisite.

    Getting them so fanatically wrong makes you look like a complete and utter ****wit no matter what point you make.

    :)

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #172
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,348 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Historic cases where the victims were all adult at the time of the case.

    This is live case where some of the victims are still underage.

    How do you people still not get this? It’s to protect the victims and to ensure there’s no mistrial.


  • #173
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    The ironic thing is there were people who wanted to report these scum Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs who targeted white underage girls, but were afraid to because of being labeled a racist. Tommy Robinson is reporting on it but gets labeled a racist, even though there's zero interest evidence to back this up.


  • #174
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    The ironic thing is there were people who wanted to report these scum Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs who targeted white underage girls, but were afraid to because of being labeled a racist. Tommy Robinson is reporting on it but gets labeled a racist, even though there's zero interest evidence to back this up.


    That doesn't sound like irony.


  • #175
    A Pint of Goo
    Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »
    The ironic thing is there were people who wanted to report these scum Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs who targeted white underage girls, but were afraid to because of being labeled a racist. Tommy Robinson is reporting on it but gets labeled a racist, even though there's zero interest evidence to back this up.

    White girls have to sacrified on the altar of multiculturalism. How else can we have peaceful and tolerant societies like the UK and Sweden?


  • #176
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Can i do this for all child abuse cases or do they have to be Muslim ones?

    If you can find any child abuse trials on here or the uk where there are 29 perpitrators on trial that aren't Muslim please let us know. Sod it, forget 29 try 9.


  • #177
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,630 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    enricoh wrote: »
    If you can find any child abuse trials on here or the uk where there are 29 perpitrators on trial that aren't Muslim please let us know. Sod it, forget 29 try 9.

    There's a quota of abuse victims that has to be met now before it's distasteful enough to warrant protesting...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #178
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A Pint of Goo wrote: »
    White girls have to sacrified on the altar of multiculturalism. How else can we have peaceful and tolerant societies like the UK and Sweden?

    I thought this wasn't about race?


  • #179
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    There's a quota of abuse victims that has to be met now before it's distasteful enough to warrant protesting...?

    Not victims, perpetrators. These are large paedophile rings by and large composed of people of Bangladeshi and Pakistani descent who are committing gang rapes of children and teenagers. And these rings have, over the last 30 years, been protected by the elected local authorities and police services.

    If that isn't worth protesting, I don't know what is.


  • #180
    A Pint of Goo
    Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I thought this wasn't about race?

    Of course not. It's just the state looking the other way while Pakistanis raped and abused white Englands girls for years.


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  • #181
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    A Pint of Goo wrote: »
    Of course not. It's just the state looking the other way while Pakistanis raped and abused white Englands girls for years.


    The state who is trying to prosecute them while Mr Robinson tries to sabotage their trial?


  • #182
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A Pint of Goo wrote: »
    Of course not. It's just the state looking the other way while Pakistanis raped and abused white Englands girls for years.

    So it is about race?


  • #183
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    The state who is trying to prosecute them while Mr Robinson tries to sabotage their trial?

    Without Tommy Robinson's constant protesting, would the same state that was ignoring the victims, covering up the crimes and protecting the paedophile rings be prosecuting them now?


  • #184
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Without Tommy Robinson's constant protesting, would the same state that was ignoring the victims, covering up the crimes and protecting the paedophile rings be prosecuting them now?


    Yes I can safely say Mr Robinson has nothing to do with the investigation and prosecution of the case he is trying to scupper.


  • #185
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So it is about race?

    Repeat after me: Nothing. Is. Ever. Racist.


  • #186
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So it is about race?

    Less about race and more about the culture. There is rot inside some cultures that is becoming more publicly visible.

    Take a look at this for a great debate on the matter:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_vRCOtr1Mw


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  • #187
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So it is about race?

    Why did you highlight ‘Pakistanis’?


  • #188
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    There's a quota of abuse victims that has to be met now before it's distasteful enough to warrant protesting...?

    Perpitrators I said , but you knew that.
    (At least I hope you Know what perpitrators means after the English lesson off you a few posts earlier)


  • #189
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    Jailed for reporting on muslim grooming gangs who have been operating freely because the authorities were afraid of being called racist. But sure, **** thousands of vulnerable children. As long as the virtue signalers can denounce an idiot like Robinson everything is ok.

    The idiot cycle continues.....


  • #190
    A Pint of Goo
    Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    Repeat after me: Nothing. Is. Ever. Racist.

    Agreed. Pakistanis preying on white girls because they are seen as 'sluts for being white is in no way a racist crime. Not in any way what so ever.


  • #191
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Yes I can safely say Mr Robinson has nothing to do with the investigation and prosecution of the case he is trying to scupper.

    Are you for real? It is a fact that local authorities, police services and even child protection authorities were ignoring and covering up these crimes for the last 30 years at least. When he first started his protests, he was called a racist, made fun of (including by me) and dismissed out of hand, and yet he was proven right all along.

    Even if it turns out that he is a bigot, you have to acknowledge the fact that he was doing his absolute best to publicize these crimes and their coverups and bring them to public knowledge.


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  • #192
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    DickSwiveller wrote: »
    Jailed for reporting on muslim grooming gangs who have been operating freely because the authorities were afraid of being called racist. But sure, **** thousands of vulnerable children. As long as the virtue signalers can denounce an idiot like Robinson everything is ok.

    The idiot cycle continues.....


    Just to clarify for Dick here and people who are completely unaware of what they are talking about, Tommy Robinson was videoing people going into a trial of a grooming gang (apparently being tried for a crime is "operating freely"). His actions could have damaged the trial and allowed the accused people to go free. Dick, can you explain why you would be in favour of those men getting a mistrial?


  • #193
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Raging_Ninja wrote: »
    Are you for real? It is a fact that local authorities, police services and even child protection authorities were ignoring and covering up these crimes for the last 30 years at least. When he first started his protests, he was called a racist, made fun of (including by me) and dismissed out of hand, and yet he was proven right all along.

    Even if it turns out that he is a bigot, you have to acknowledge the fact that he was doing his absolute best to publicize these crimes and their coverups and bring them to public knowledge.


    None of which excuses his attempts to damage this trial. Why do you think those men should have been denied a fair trial and released?


  • #194
    Raging_Ninja
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    None of which excuses his attempts to damage this trial. Why do you think those men should have been denied a fair trial and released?

    The latest video does not appear to show him recording anyone other than himself. Would a reasonable person construe that as breach of the peace?


  • #195
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Just to clarify for Dick here and people who are completely unaware of what they are talking about, Tommy Robinson was videoing people going into a trial of a grooming gang (apparently being tried for a crime is "operating freely"). His actions could have damaged the trial and allowed the accused people to go free. Dick, can you explain why you would be in favour of those men getting a mistrial?

    Are you unaware of the recent reports from places like Telford, Oxford, Newcastle, Rotherham that have made the exact point I was making?


  • #196
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    The state who is trying to prosecute them while Mr Robinson tries to sabotage their trial?

    Robinson in danger of collapsing the case for a few clicks and social media fame.
    Utter moron and does not give a sh1te about the victims.


  • #197
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,630 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    enricoh wrote: »
    Perpitrators I said , but you knew that.
    (At least I hope you Know what perpitrators means after the English lesson off you a few posts earlier)

    Spellcheck on aisle 3....

    Seriously though - that was my point: if the perpetrators are Christian, it somehow becomes in some way less distasteful or less worthy of protest...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #198
    A Pint of Goo
    Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Spellcheck on aisle 3....

    Seriously though - that was my point: if the perpetrators are Christian, it somehow becomes in some way less distasteful or less worthy of protest...?

    We're they Christian there'd be no cover up...


  • #199
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Free Tommy Robinson petition already has over 84,000 signatures


    https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson


  • #200
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,630 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    A Pint of Goo wrote: »
    We're they Christian there'd be no cover up...

    You're not familiar with this country's history then?

    I'm not saying that either one is in any way acceptable, I'm just trying to promote consistency if people want to make the perpetrator's religion an issue.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #201
    A Pint of Goo
    Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    You're not familiar with this country's history then?

    I'm not saying that either one is in any way acceptable, I'm just trying to promote consistency if people want to make the perpetrator's religion an issue.

    Of course I'm familiar with our history. I'm sure therefore you agree that covering up sexual violence, so as not to offend the Catholic Church or the Multicult is stupid and wrong.


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