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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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Tipsy McSwagger

The ironic thing is there were people who wanted to report these scum Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs who targeted white underage girls, but were afraid to because of being labeled a racist. Tommy Robinson is reporting on it but gets labeled a racist, even though there's zero interest evidence to back this up.

super_furry

Historic cases where the victims were all adult at the time of the case.

This is live case where some of the victims are still underage.

How do you people still not get this? It’s to protect the victims and to ensure there’s no mistrial.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I know this is going to sound pedantic, and I know there's a rule against grammar Nazism, but can we PLEASE got one thing straight?

There are no such words as "Muslimism" or "Islamsism": Islam is the religion; a Muslim is the person who practices the religion.

Sorry to go back to basics, but if you want to try and give the impression that you know what you're talking about when it comes to religious ethnic groups and their influence on societal community relations, getting the basic words right is kind of a pre-requisite.

Getting them so fanatically wrong makes you look like a complete and utter ****wit no matter what point you make.

Taytoland

Should not have filmed them if he was told not to do so especially on a suspended sentence. So his own fault in that regard. We do not need to see videos on these Pakistani Muslim gangs who rape children all over the country, we all know they exist.

I don't blame him for his views on Islamism, I hold similar views to him on it.

Grayson

malinheader wrote: »

point scoring, lying, stupid posts. Seems to me point scoring is more a trait of your own. Don't get upset if I don't like your post.

What is wrong with you? You're actually attacking me for a post where I pointed out that no-one else here think I support suicide bombers

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dav3 wrote: »

If anybody would like to imitate their hero Tommy. There are plenty of child abuse cases in Ireland ongoing with reporting restrictions in place.

You just need to turn up outside the court, pretend your a journalist just like Tommy, and start live streaming and videoing people going into court.

Let us know how you got on, after you get out of prison.

Can i do this for all child abuse cases or do they have to be Muslim ones?

Captain Obvious

The same people on here defending Robinson would be having a field day if a Muslim grooming gang got off a conviction because of a mistrial. Court reporting restrictions exist for a reason. Robinson could have reported on the trial like anyone else but that wouldn't have gotten him in the news. He gambled that he'd be treated lightly and he lost.

thebull85

Fake racist tweets that a 5 year old could put together.

Must try harder

dav3

If anybody would like to imitate their hero Tommy. There are plenty of child abuse cases in Ireland ongoing with reporting restrictions in place.

You just need to turn up outside the court, pretend your a journalist just like Tommy, and start live streaming and videoing people going into court.

Let us know how you got on, after you get out of prison.

malinheader

Grayson wrote: »

So you agree with him that I support suicide bombers?

I'm pointing out that even people who disagree with me wouldn't even agree with him. It's not about how much people "like" him but how they don't agree with him on that. It wasn't about showing a lack of popularity but a lack of agreement. But you knew that didn't you.

You however seen to like your point scoring. So how about you take on the challenge of defending his post? Or you could agree with me that it was stupid and an utter lie.

point scoring, lying, stupid posts. Seems to me point scoring is more a trait of your own. Don't get upset if I don't like your post.

The Backwards Man

I must say I'm very shocked to read that supporters of Tommy are more interested in ogling at the photos of paedophiles than protecting the identies of their victims. Tommy himself is not like that at all.

Call Me Jimmy

So the difference between this case and that of say something from the metoo campaign is that there are minors involved?

Grayson

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Where’s your answer when asked to prove he’s a racist?

Others have already posted up racist tweets if his.

Grayson

malinheader wrote: »

Pure childish post telling someone they didn't get there post liked . And if you had bothered to follow the thread you would see that not everyone who is disgusted by the case and the way Robinson was treated is a supporter of his. A lot of people fear this will be brushed under the carpet again like A lot of things these days.

So you agree with him that I support suicide bombers?

I'm pointing out that even people who disagree with me wouldn't even agree with him. It's not about how much people "like" him but how they don't agree with him on that. It wasn't about showing a lack of popularity but a lack of agreement. But you knew that didn't you.

You however seen to like your point scoring. So how about you take on the challenge of defending his post? Or you could agree with me that it was stupid and an utter lie.

Tipsy McSwagger

Grayson wrote: »

That's not an answer. Do you think that people's names should be made public when they're accused? Or just when found guilty?

Where’s your answer when asked to prove he’s a racist?

malinheader

Grayson wrote: »

I've never done that once. My whole post history is available for you to search. Go find a single post where I said or even implied any such thing.

Or we can all assume that you're a liar.

You notice how even Tommy Robinsons supporters didn't click like on your post? That's how fcuking dumb it is. They know you're just making sh1t up. Even in a very polarised discussion, people who should be on your side don't want to be associated with you. Even though they disagree with me they wouldn't even ascribe that to me.

Pure childish post telling someone they didn't get there post liked . And if you had bothered to follow the thread you would see that not everyone who is disgusted by the case and the way Robinson was treated is a supporter of his. A lot of people fear this will be brushed under the carpet again like A lot of things these days.

Grayson

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.

In this post someone quotes a news article where the judge specifically mentions jurors

Edit: just read that article and it's from last years case. Then he filmed inside the building and also because of him being there the jurors and defendants had to be led out through a side entrance. It could be something similar here. But until he's actually in court we won't know the reasons behind the charges.

20Cent

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.

The trial is ongoing. Robinson could have collapsed the case and those guys get off scott free. Their faces will be plastered all over the media after being found guilty.

Grayson

thebull85 wrote: »

Take a look at the guys on the video that went to court yesterday. Do you really believe that they are innocent?

That's not an answer. Do you think that people's names should be made public when they're accused? Or just when found guilty?

thebull85

Grayson wrote: »

So anyone who's accused or anyone found guilty?

Take a look at the guys on the video that went to court yesterday. Do you really believe that they are innocent?

JohnMc1

20Cent wrote: »

Crimes against children always have special restrictions so that the children's identities can be protected. No conspiracy here. He was warned already and ignored the warning.

Wouldn't the children be brought in a different entrance anyway? These scumbags should be identified and have their faces plastered all over the world.

Grayson

thebull85 wrote: »

Naming them could save thousands more children from being raped. So my answer is yes

So anyone who's accused or anyone found guilty?

[Deleted User]

Grayson wrote: »

On twitter #freetommy was trending. There were also a load of "I am Tommy" tweets. They couldn't seem to manage to say it in french.

Why would they? He’s English. Kinda ironic you’re using the “Je Suis Charlie” hashtag as a stick to beat him with given it was absolutely on the back of an evil Muslim inspired atrocity.

thebull85

Grayson wrote: »

Even when it risks identifying the victims? Even when those victims are minors?

Naming them could save thousands more children from being raped. So my answer is yes

Grayson

Human Sausage wrote: »

But never let it be said AH let the facts get in the way of small-minded ranting.

On twitter #freetommy was trending. There were also a load of "I am Tommy" tweets. They couldn't seem to manage to say it in french. And there were a feck load of tweets saying that there was a ban on reporting about his arrest. All they had to do was google his name and they couldn't be bothered doing it.

thebull85 wrote: »

Scumbag child rapists need to be indentified. End of f***ing story.

Even when it risks identifying the victims? Even when those victims are minors?

Grayson

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

hahahaha! and you yourself are always defending the violence of trucks driving over kids and suicide bombing !!

Well done ..

I've never done that once. My whole post history is available for you to search. Go find a single post where I said or even implied any such thing.

Or we can all assume that you're a liar.

You notice how even Tommy Robinsons supporters didn't click like on your post? That's how fcuking dumb it is. They know you're just making sh1t up. Even in a very polarised discussion, people who should be on your side don't want to be associated with you. Even though they disagree with me they wouldn't even ascribe that to me.

JohnMc1

Tommy and Jayda should just leave Britain and let the Country burn to the ground.

Human Sausage

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Like the media?

You mean the media which does so in accordance with the law?

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Can someone explain the difference between what he does and what I see on the news where criminals are walking to court being asked questions? They often throw the jacket over their head? What was the thing that meant the law was broken? Martin Cahill comes to mind too. Is it a question of proximity to the court?

The difference is that this trial involves minors so there are more restrictions on what can be reported and how.

Anyway, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html

Robinson is already under a suspended sentence for committing contempt of court over a gang rape case heard in Canterbury last year.

Judge Heather Norton handed him a three months imprisonment in May last year but suspended it for 18 months on the condition he did not commit further offences.

Oh and,

“This is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness,” the judge told Robinson at the time

“It is about justice and ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly, it’s about being innocent until proven guilty.

“It is about preserving the integrity of the jury to continue without people being intimidated or being affected by irresponsible and inaccurate ‘reporting’, if that’s what it was.”

But never let it be said AH let the facts get in the way of small-minded ranting.

20Cent

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Can someone explain the difference between what he does and what I see on the news where criminals are walking to court being asked questions? They often throw the jacket over their head? What was the thing that meant the law was broken? Martin Cahill comes to mind too. Is it a question of proximity to the court?

Journalists wouldn'tbe shouting you're guily at someone on the way into court. They would also be careful not to film jurors or people just there to observe.

Pero_Bueno

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

To a certain extent In agree with you, but he could do without they look the next Twitter Pakistani jokes and mortgage fraud.

If a Muslim had the same rapsheet Tommy has, Tommy works be demanding his deportarion on the grounds of immorality.

Very much doubt those twitter jokes are genuine, more likely a smear campaign.