Dublin Fire service recruitment? Anyone know??

Arruabarrena · 20-10-2015 2:56pm

Arruabarrena wrote: »

ESCO advertised at same time I believe.

Incorrect. Separate advertisement to be determined.

reddington · 20-10-2015 3:53pm

Is firefighter still looking good for Thursday

Arruabarrena · 20-10-2015 4:18pm

Yep, 100% going ahead.

reddington · 20-10-2015 4:38pm

Thank you

dmc36 · 21-10-2015 4:57pm

Arruabarrena wrote: »

Yep, 100% going ahead.

Hi Arruabarrena, how do you know for 100% certain. I only ask out of excitement? I have job alert set up on publicjobs.ie but nothing yet.

Arruabarrena · 21-10-2015 5:04pm

It will be advertised tomorrow barring any cock up from the PAS.

megabantz · 21-10-2015 5:04pm

123kid2014 wrote: »

10,000

No way, I hope not. That's ridiculous.

Easily achieved I would say. A lot of people have been waiting for this to come around since the last external recruitment which was I think around 2006

I know a bunch of guards some of which are not out of templemore long wanting to join, I know lads in the military and NAS all looking to get in.... the list will be huge

123kid2014 · 21-10-2015 5:15pm

megabantz wrote: »

Easily achieved I would say. A lot of people have been waiting for this to come around since the last external recruitment which was I think around 2006

I know a bunch of guards some of which are not out of templemore long wanting to join, I know lads in the military and NAS all looking to get in.... the list will be huge

Ye true enough, I know a few full time firemen applying too .

thatboy1 · 21-10-2015 5:17pm

megabantz wrote: »

Easily achieved I would say. A lot of people have been waiting for this to come around since the last external recruitment which was I think around 2006

I know a bunch of guards some of which are not out of templemore long wanting to join, I know lads in the military and NAS all looking to get in.... the list will be huge

I'd imaging a lot of the people from the last panel cancelled in 2012 will apply too

123kid2014 · 21-10-2015 5:18pm

megabantz wrote: »

Easily achieved I would say. A lot of people have been waiting for this to come around since the last external recruitment which was I think around 2006

I know a bunch of guards some of which are not out of templemore long wanting to join, I know lads in the military and NAS all looking to get in.... the list will be huge

Ye true enough, I know a few full time firemen applying too .

21-10-2015 5:18pm

Arruabarrena wrote: »

Incorrect. Separate advertisement to be determined.

Do you know if the ESCO is planned to go ahead in the coming weeks/months or is there no set time frame?

D Trent · 22-10-2015 12:11am

Midnite and it's advertised
http://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/campaignAdvert/23899.htm

thatboy1 · 22-10-2015 8:20am

Good news.

I notice it just says firefighter ......... will they be training people as paramedics too?

prettyboy81 · 22-10-2015 8:21am

It's going to be a huge competition. Best of Luck!

megabantz · 22-10-2015 8:53am

its 6 months training, 3 firefighting and 3 paramedic

sjb25 · 22-10-2015 12:18pm

megabantz wrote: »

its 6 months training, 3 firefighting and 3 paramedic

Just out of interest how do they do a phecc paramedic course in 3 months?

OffalyMedic · 22-10-2015 12:26pm

sjb25 wrote:

Just out of interest how do they do a phecc paramedic course in 3 months?

I'm wondering this too...applied this morning, main reason is I want to become a paramedic with hse down the line and as they are not recruiting anytime soon by sounds of it I'm going DFB route but also have strong ambitions to be a firefighter!! After just completing 4 year nursing degree and seeing emergency situations at first hand I don't understand how someone with only 3 months training will be equipped to deal with what is thrown at them ...Any insight would be great!

OffalyMedic · 22-10-2015 12:36pm

sjb25 wrote:

Just out of interest how do they do a phecc paramedic course in 3 months?

I'm wondering this too...applied this morning, main reason is I want to become a paramedic with hse down the line and as they are not recruiting anytime soon by sounds of it I'm going DFB route but also have strong ambitions to be a firefighter!! After just completing 4 year nursing degree and seeing emergency situations at first hand I don't understand how someone with only 3 months training will be equipped to deal with what is thrown at them ...Any insight would be great!

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 12:39pm

shaunac93 wrote: »

I'm wondering this too...applied this morning, main reason is I want to become a paramedic with hse down the line and as they are not recruiting anytime soon by sounds of it I'm going DFB route but also have strong ambitions to be a firefighter!! After just completing 4 year nursing degree and seeing emergency situations at first hand I don't understand how someone with only 3 months training will be equipped to deal with what is thrown at them ...Any insight would be great!

The 3 months is just the basic . Then u go on the job with experienced paramedics and on placements I think

megabantz · 22-10-2015 12:40pm

they don't do it all in 3 month as the paramedic course works out at roughly 2 years but the classroom teaching is completed in 3 months or there abouts with each paramedic intern having to clock up hours on an emergency ambulance. the paramedic interns then are subjected to written and practical oscii tests and further case studies and then once they clock up the required hours, complete case studies, complete written exams and the oscii exams then they can apply for paramedic registration.

from the phecc training standards doc for paramedic

"Duration: The Paramedic course is no less than 10 week theoretical instruction and no less than
18 weeks undergraduate internship and one year postgraduate internship"

madmaxvideo · 22-10-2015 12:46pm

Just out of curiosity, how can dfb recruit people with just a junior/ inter cert, and train up to firefighter paramedic level, but applicants to hse need 5 passes in leaving cert with science to become paramedic? I presume it's a ucd requirement with hse and dfb is internal training, would I be correct?

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 12:49pm

madmaxvideo wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how can dfb recruit people with just a junior/ inter cert, and train up to firefighter paramedic level, but applicants to hse need 5 passes in leaving cert with science to become paramedic? I presume it's a ucd requirement with hse and dfb is internal training, would I be correct?

If you only need junior certificate that only means one thing. 10,000+ applying haha

megabantz · 22-10-2015 12:49pm

madmaxvideo wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how can dfb recruit people with just a junior/ inter cert, and train up to firefighter paramedic level, but applicants to hse need 5 passes in leaving cert with science to become paramedic? I presume it's a ucd requirement with hse and dfb is internal training, would I be correct?

I would imagine its down to what the hse think a suitable candidate should possess as a min education requirement. Personally just because somebody doesn't have a leaving cert doesnt mean they cant make great FF and paramedics. This is where interviews come in and the interviewer is gauging the candidate to see are they suitable for the role through current and past experiences and qualifications.

Somebody could have no leaving cert but has gone on to become and EMT, heavy driver and done other courses where they would be suitable for the role this way I would imagine.

megabantz · 22-10-2015 12:52pm

123kid2014 wrote: »

If you only need junior certificate that only means one thing. 10,000+ applying haha

easily but at the end of the day 50k people could apply but you either have it or you don't when up against the next guy/girl

You will have people with 0 skills/background applying to advanced paramedics to tradesmen and from looking at past recruitment drives it has been a mixed bag so everyone is in with a chance

madmaxvideo · 22-10-2015 1:02pm

megabantz wrote: »

easily but at the end of the day 50k people could apply but you either have it or you don't when up against the next guy/girl

You will have people with 0 skills/background applying to advanced paramedics to tradesmen and from looking at past recruitment drives it has been a mixed bag so everyone is in with a chance

Talking to a few of the lads from dfb/ hse, they prefer the layman rather than someone with emt lisences etc!! Not saying they only want laymen, but prefer!!

Does anyone know if the initial testing is more jobs specific rather than the bulls**t standardised testing?

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 1:08pm

madmaxvideo wrote: »

Talking to a few of the lads from dfb/ hse, they prefer the layman rather than someone with emt lisences etc!! Not saying they only want laymen, but prefer!!

Does anyone know if the initial testing is more jobs specific rather than the bulls**t standardised testing?

The emt can only benefit your application as it shows interest and that you're able to study and you paid over €2000 to do it.

I can see why it wouldn't really matter if you didn't have it . If you fit the bill you'll get the job .

The aptitude will knock out thousands

sjb25 · 22-10-2015 1:17pm

megabantz wrote: »

they don't do it all in 3 month as the paramedic course works out at roughly 2 years but the classroom teaching is completed in 3 months or there abouts with each paramedic intern having to clock up hours on an emergency ambulance. the paramedic interns then are subjected to written and practical oscii tests and further case studies and then once they clock up the required hours, complete case studies, complete written exams and the oscii exams then they can apply for paramedic registration.

from the phecc training standards doc for paramedic

"Duration: The Paramedic course is no less than 10 week theoretical instruction and no less than
18 weeks undergraduate internship and one year postgraduate internship"

Clears it up alright

sjb25 · 22-10-2015 1:19pm

madmaxvideo wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how can dfb recruit people with just a junior/ inter cert, and train up to firefighter paramedic level, but applicants to hse need 5 passes in leaving cert with science to become paramedic? I presume it's a ucd requirement with hse and dfb is internal training, would I be correct?

They are UCD requirements rather than NAS

Iseedeadpixels · 22-10-2015 1:22pm

123kid2014 wrote: »

If you only need junior certificate that only means one thing. 10,000+ applying haha

I was shocked when I seen that on the application.

megabantz · 22-10-2015 1:24pm

madmaxvideo wrote: »

Talking to a few of the lads from dfb/ hse, they prefer the layman rather than someone with emt lisences etc!! Not saying they only want laymen, but prefer!!

Does anyone know if the initial testing is more jobs specific rather than the bulls**t standardised testing?

yeah I used emt as en example of somebody who dropped out before leaving cert but has gone on to study a field related to the fire/ambulance service that shows they have the mental capacity and are studious enough that they may be well able to go on and do paramedic.

Yeah they don't look for fully trained firefighters and paremdics as they are looking for RECRUIT firefighters but it defo helps when up against somebody who doesnt have it if it came down to one or the other.

Aptitude tests will wipe a lot away alrught but so will interview. An interview for the fire service is quite difficult and the standard is extremely high

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 1:32pm

megabantz wrote: »

yeah I used emt as en example of somebody who dropped out before leaving cert but has gone on to study a field related to the fire/ambulance service that shows they have the mental capacity and are studious enough that they may be well able to go on and do paramedic.

Yeah they don't look for fully trained firefighters and paremdics as they are looking for RECRUIT firefighters but it defo helps when up against somebody who doesnt have it if it came down to one or the other.

Aptitude tests will wipe a lot away alrught but so will interview. An interview for the fire service is quite difficult and the standard is extremely high

If you're a paramedic/emt or full time or retained firefighter already I'm sure it's a good thing.

I agree with aptitude and interviews. They're both hard.

You'd nearly need to get everything right in the aptitude to get through as the standard will be top notch.

megabantz · 22-10-2015 1:37pm

123kid2014 wrote: »

If you're a paramedic/emt or full time or retained firefighter already I'm sure it's a good thing.

I agree with aptitude and interviews. They're both hard.

You'd nearly need to get everything right in the aptitude to get through as the standard will be top notch.

Yeah it defo does you good but by no means the be all and end all at he end of the day if the interviewer doesn't think your the right character for the job then he wont sign you off. I know of an interviewr before giving the job to a layman over s candidate with all the bells and whistles because he didnt convince him at interview he would be any better than the layman!

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 1:38pm

megabantz wrote: »

Yeah it defo does you good but by no means the be all and end all at he end of the day if the interviewer doesn't think your the right character for the job then he wont sign you off. I know of an interviewr before giving the job to a layman over s candidate with all the bells and whistles because he didnt convince him at interview he would be any better than the layman!

Ye I guess you can have all the qualifications but if your interview is bad then forget it .

thatboy1 · 22-10-2015 3:10pm

Any idea how many theyre looking for?

megabantz · 22-10-2015 3:12pm

I would hope its the same as the last public recruitment (2005/6) which was roughly 200 and recruit classes are drafted from this figure. perhaps some of the dfb lads on here would know more

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 4:05pm

megabantz wrote: »

I would hope its the same as the last public recruitment (2005/6) which was roughly 200 and recruit classes are drafted from this figure. perhaps some of the dfb lads on here would know more

Ye I heard they will be down a 100 early 2016 so I'd expect a big panel of maybe 150-200

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 4:06pm

megabantz wrote: »

I would hope its the same as the last public recruitment (2005/6) which was roughly 200 and recruit classes are drafted from this figure. perhaps some of the dfb lads on here would know more

Ye I heard they will be down a 100 early 2016 so I'd expect a big panel of maybe 150-200

lonfire1 · 22-10-2015 4:43pm

Hi lads... Do ye think that they might do an online test .... Something that can be done from home, just to get numbers down.....like Dublin airport fire ?

megabantz · 22-10-2015 4:47pm

lonfire1 wrote: »

Hi lads... Do ye think that they might do an online test .... Something that can be done from home, just to get numbers down.....like Dublin airport fire ?

there will most likely be online tests but DFB - unlike the airport, tend to also throw in a supervised verification assessment to weed out the cheats among us.

lonfire1 · 22-10-2015 5:13pm

megabantz wrote: »

there will most likely be online tests but DFB - unlike the airport, tend to also throw in a supervised verification assessment to weed out the cheats among us.

That's fair game!

Iseedeadpixels · 22-10-2015 5:51pm

Didn't the Garda do the test online and a 2nd supervised one.

123kid2014 · 22-10-2015 7:29pm

megabantz wrote: »

there will most likely be online tests but DFB - unlike the airport, tend to also throw in a supervised verification assessment to weed out the cheats among us.

The main aptitude will be in croker so nobody can cheat like everyone I know in the airport aptitude.

One of my mates used a maths app on his phone for the maths and got them all right .

Stupid airport

thatboy1 · 22-10-2015 8:39pm

123kid2014 wrote: »

The main aptitude will be in croker so nobody can cheat like everyone I know in the airport aptitude.

One of my mates used a maths app on his phone for the maths and got them all right .

Stupid airport

I'd say main will be in the PAS offices . They've computers there for confirming online aptitude tests.

johnjoe 123 · 23-10-2015 12:32am

thatboy1 wrote: »

I'd say main will be in the PAS offices . They've computers there for confirming online aptitude tests.

Right I've applied what's next guys will I get an application form or ??? I see a crowd on Facebook in Dublin doing a coarse to help you get in like a prep coarse.

megabantz · 23-10-2015 9:39am

johnjoe 123 wrote: »

Right I've applied what's next guys will I get an application form or ??? I see a crowd on Facebook in Dublin doing a coarse to help you get in like a prep coarse.

it's an online application so if you have applied then that was your application.. I would imagine your CV will come into play after they cut the applicants down to something like 600 from the 10k+ that apply and bring them forward for interview

123kid2014 · 23-10-2015 9:56am

Lads I wonder will the aptitude test in croker or wherever it is be the same as the one in 2006?

Written passages
Calculating
Videos

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lonfire1 · 23-10-2015 10:01am

Do u reckon there will be that many applying?
Sure they will never sit that many in Croke Park....they will def.. cut it down with an on line test

123kid2014 · 23-10-2015 10:04am

lonfire1 wrote: »

Do u reckon there will be that many applying?
Sure they will never sit that many in Croke Park....they will def.. cut it down with an on line test

Yes in 2006 there was 9000 if I remember correctly.

They'll probably do a basic one online first to cut a few out of say but the majority will go to croker.
Unless the online one is hard. Then loads will be knocked out early

They'll do it over a few days in croker I'd say

thatboy1 · 23-10-2015 10:10am

123kid2014 wrote: »

Yes in 2006 there was 9000 if I remember correctly.

They'll probably do a basic one online first to cut a few out of say but the majority will go to croker.
Unless the online one is hard. Then loads will be knocked out early

They'll do it over a few days in croker I'd say

It wont be croker. It'll be in the PAS offices. They've them set up with computers to confirm online testing. That's how they ran Garda campaign too

dmc36 · 23-10-2015 11:29am

Im living in Leixlip (technically Kildare) but its practically Dublin, will this hamper my application do you think?

Dublin Fire service recruitment? Anyone know??

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