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Fighter jets for the Air Corps?

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    #1322
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    They will probably replace the PC-9's in 2025 with the PC-21. Apparently it can cover all forms of pilot training.

    capture14.jpg?w=625


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    #1323
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    They will probably replace the PC-9's in 2025 with the PC-21. Apparently it can cover all forms of pilot training.

    snip
    I'd be highly surprised if they actually are replaced by then tbh. Between the likely budget squeezes and the relatively low use on the PC9's (including the replacement) Id expect 2030ish at best.


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    #1324
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    sparky42 wrote: »
    I'd be highly surprised if they actually are replaced by then tbh. Between the likely budget squeezes and the relatively low use on the PC9's (including the replacement) Id expect 2030ish at best.

    I kinda thought 2025 was a bit optimistic myself.


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    #1325
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    I kinda thought 2025 was a bit optimistic myself.
    Pretty much, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if it was 2035ish tbh. Short of any major change in DF duties.


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    #1326
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Coveney will tell DOD we need jets, DOD will do a google search and see a pc9 with sidewinders. They will buy a few ring the minister problem solved we now have an intercept capability .Just not the small things like speed and radar


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    #1327
    punchdrunk
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    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    They will probably replace the PC-9's in 2025 with the PC-21. Apparently it can cover all forms of pilot training.

    capture14.jpg?w=625

    Not a chance!


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    #1328
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    With All the power now in Cork and talks of cork airport not viable according to some media we could suggest that if the government bough jets and based them in cork it would safe the airport and loads of jobs!


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    #1329
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Extremely good idea. Could share the facility with the Spanish Air Force. Remember the battle of Kinsale etc.


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    #1330
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    roadmaster wrote: »
    With All the power now in Cork and talks of cork airport not viable according to some media we could suggest that if the government bough jets and based them in cork it would safe the airport and loads of jobs!

    Sure, and we could rename it the Cork Air Corps along with the Cork Navy...


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    #1331
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    jonnybigwallet wrote: »
    Extremely good idea. Could share the facility with the Spanish Air Force. Remember the battle of Kinsale etc.

    What are you blithering about???


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    #1332
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    Not a chance!

    I think its most likely the PC-9 be replaced by PC-21


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    #1333
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Interesting point of view...


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    #1334
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    I think its most likely the PC-9 be replaced by PC-21

    Nothing wrong with the PC-9’s as trainers- far more important to buy more helicopters and crew them


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    #1335
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Could come in a bit handy all right. Maybe a few of them Baby Shark remote control ones might be useful. Seeing as theres a shortage of pilots. A couple of them twin engine Boeing jobbies would be great as well. Not sure if we need any Apatches at the moment. Wouldn't mind a smatterin of them though.


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    #1336
    sparky42
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    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    Sure, and we could rename it the Cork Air Corps along with the Cork Navy...
    The People's Republic approve of this!


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    #1337
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with the PC-9’s as trainers- far more important to buy more helicopters and crew them

    Never said there was anything wrong with it, but they will be replaced at some stage.


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    #1338
    Leonidas BL
    Registered Users Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    sparky42 wrote: »
    The People's Republic approve of this!

    Of China maybe :p


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    #1339
    roadmaster
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    Leonidas BL wrote: »
    Of China maybe :p

    OR Apple Inc.!


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    #1340
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Good video here. Wonder are they watching this down in Baldonnel?

    https://youtu.be/sV9Brhzefzc


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    #1341
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    jonnybigwallet wrote: »
    Good video here. Wonder are they watching this down in Baldonnel?

    https://youtu.be/sV9Brhzefzc

    Why? Theyd be crap as interceptors.


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    #1342
    Sgt. Bilko 09
    Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Sgt. Bilko 09


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    Why? Theyd be crap as interceptors.

    Gripen maybe


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    #1343
    punchdrunk
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    Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »
    Gripen maybe

    Great if someone is willing to pay for it!


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    #1344
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,200 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jonnybigwallet wrote: »
    Good video here. Wonder are they watching this down in Baldonnel?

    https://youtu.be/sV9Brhzefzc

    what roles do you think they might fulfill?


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    #1345
    jonnybigwallet
    Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Similar to pc9 and preparation for transition to Gripen.


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    #1346
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    jonnybigwallet wrote: »
    Similar to pc9 and preparation for transition to Gripen.

    The only way we’d get Grippens would be if the EU forced us to have a QRF and then the training would be outsourced


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    #1347
    sparky42
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what roles do you think they might fulfill?
    Reminder that we once spent several times what we now do as a % and the nation managed just fine.


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    #1348
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    sparky42 wrote: »
    Reminder that we once spent several times what we now do as a % and the nation managed just fine.

    We haven’t had current and effective fighter aircraft since the mid 40’s, even the vampire was redundant when we got it


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    #1349
    sparky42
    Registered Users Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭sparky42


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    We haven’t had current and effective fighter aircraft since the mid 40’s, even the vampire was redundant when we got it


    Not disagreeing with you, never mentioned the AC, I meant the defence budget, we sustained over 1% of GDP in defence when said GDP was tiny compared to what we are today (or even GNI if you take out the GDP funny numbers). That's my point, the whole "who pays for it" ignores the fact that we spent more before.


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    #1350
    Heraldoffreeent
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what roles do you think they might fulfill?

    Bombing and strafeing Johnny furriner wallahs of course!!

    Might even get two 50 cals in the back turret.


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    #1351
    Sgt. Bilko 09
    Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Sgt. Bilko 09


    sparky42 wrote: »
    Not disagreeing with you, never mentioned the AC, I meant the defence budget, we sustained over 1% of GDP in defence when said GDP was tiny compared to what we are today (or even GNI if you take out the GDP funny numbers). That's my point, the whole "who pays for it" ignores the fact that we spent more before.

    Hungary leased the Gripen on good terms from Saab maybe we could do the same.


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