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Eoghan Harris terminated

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  • #202
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    I think it's highly unlikely that Harris is/was posting on these boards. His disdain for message boards is well known. It seems like the twitter thing was just a bit of a laugh for him and few of his journalist friends. Newsroom banter.


    Anyway, I doubt he minds very much. Being 78 he's made his mark and will be able to retire having made his mark on the body of journalism in this state.


  • #203
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    His disdain for message boards is well known.


    As too is his vast hypocrisy, he'd do anything out of self interest.


  • #204
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Fairly partisan yourself there.


    I think it is important that there is transparency here. That is all.

    I don't support any party Francie. I vote for nearly all of them across the preferences. Crazy leftists and national party aside.

    There is no real large permanent vote for any party anymore, perhaps SF excepted. The always vote FG and FF voters are rare. If another credible party turned up that could capture the centrist vote it would take the votes.


  • #205
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    I think it's highly unlikely that Harris is/was posting on these boards. His disdain for message boards is well known. It seems like the twitter thing was just a bit of a laugh for him and few of his journalist friends. Newsroom banter.


    Anyway, I doubt he minds very much. Being 78 he's made his mark and will be able to retire having made his mark on the body of journalism in this state.

    His 'disdain' for trolls was well known too, but whaddya know! :)


  • #206
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    It seems like the twitter thing was just a bit of a laugh for him and few of his journalist friends. Newsroom banter.

    That's up there among the most feeble justifications for nefarious behaviour I've ever read. Considering the source, not surprised in the least.


  • #207
    jammiedodgers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    There is a fantastic irony in Pintman Paddy Losty playing down someone trolling.


  • #208
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They could use this bit of housekeeping to get rid of Kerrigan off the back page as well. Finally get rid of the last Stickie from its paper.


  • #209
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    No I believe that Moore is playing up this incident a bit (when you read the actual tweets)

    But in the context of today's buzzwords - 'mental health, online sexual harassment cyber bullying, body shaming' etc she is on the winner. And more power to her she might as well make hay while the sun shines. It should further her journalistic profile and her career if she plays it correctly.

    I feel no sympathy for Harris and I feel it is well deserved and it high time he got his comeuppance. He went too far for today's world and got caught out. His own hubris hung him in the end.


    As if they have anything to do with the story as a whole, yet you can't go a single post without mentioning her.

    She must be an awful threat to the masculinity of the likes of yourself and the pintman et al.

    If only she would pipe down and get back in the kitchen eh, these wimmin, making trouble.


  • #210
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    552533.jpg

    Any of ye remember the time Gerry forgot to switch accounts when replying to himself??

    Glass houses and all that.


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  • #211
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=552533&d=1620394409

    Any of ye remember the time Gerry forgot to switch accounts when replying to himself??

    Glass houses and all that.

    wharrabout sinn fein?


    You've lost hard here Paddy,

    I can't stand the shinners myself and will never vote for them - but it always has to be a "sides" thing with shills/trolls like yourself.

    Pathetic stuff, as expected.


  • #212
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Why are people trying to make this about Aoife Grace Moore instead of what it's actually about?

    :confused::confused::confused:

    Because there is a certain cohort on this forum who believe women are vindictive and evil bastards.

    Straight away we have someone who makes a statement and the first thing some people think is she’s lying or looking for attention.


  • #213
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    wharrabout sinn fein?


    You've lost hard here Paddy,

    I can't stand the shinners myself and will never vote for them - but it always has to be a "sides" thing with shills/trolls like yourself.

    Pathetic stuff, as expected.


    Just lifting the slate and shining a light on hypocrisy below Tacitus.


    It's silly stuff this online accounts. Personally I think all boards users should have to submit proof of ID before posting.


  • #214
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    As if they have anything to do with the story as a whole, yet you can't go a single post without mentioning her.

    She must be an awful threat to the masculinity of the likes of yourself and the pintman et al.

    If only she would pipe down and get back in the kitchen eh, these wimmin, making trouble.


    I haven't said anything about her. You have me pegged wrong if you think I'm in the angry men cohort.


  • #215
    Awaaf
    Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭Awaaf


    Sunny Disposition wrote: »
    It's a very sad way for his career to end, although I wasn't a fan of his journalism. It's a pity it was done so publicly, he is nearly 80 and has had bad health.

    Maybe so but I saw him out walking a week or so ago - he looked grand!


  • #216
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You'd have to ask where all the high moral grounders are now that somebody has been caught with 9 trolling accounts on Twitter.

    A wet week ago the apocalypse was imminent because the world had gone to hell in a social media abuse handcart.

    But silence out there on this and all we are hearing is excuse making and look over there'isms


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  • #217
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    As if they have anything to do with the story as a whole, yet you can't go a single post without mentioning her.

    She must be an awful threat to the masculinity of the likes of yourself and the pintman et al.

    If only she would pipe down and get back in the kitchen eh, these wimmin, making trouble.
    You see that is typical you are implying the 'modern buzzword' toxic masculinity,
    Whereas I have read the actual tweets and I am merely giving my take on them.

    Moore is playing up to your 'demographic' is my view. And if you post the actual tweets Harris said and compare and dissect them in context v what Moore herself said in the conflated tweet it stands out.

    Are you willing to do that?

    What you are supposed to do on boards.ie is attack the post and not the poster?
    Yet you are suddenly going on about 'threats to masculinity' :eek:

    I have merely looked at Moore's words in her tweet as posted by another poster and looked at the actual 'Harris' tweets in question themselves.

    There does seem to be some disparity there, regardless of the gender of the two individuals involved. I believe first and foremost both are journalists playing an 'online game'.

    And Moore has played it far better than Harris - simple as that.

    True I am a cynic by nature. But I can see what is going on it is all very boards.ie-esque. In my opinion. Certain patterns reoccur regarding agendas, image, emotional manipulation, sarcasm etc etc etc.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #218
    AdrianBalboa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    I can’t put my finger on it but there is something so “off” about a man pretending to be a woman on the internet.


  • #219
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    I haven't said anything about her. You have me pegged wrong if you think I'm in the angry men cohort.

    Indeed I do, lost the run there on that assertion, there's just so many about sometimes it's easy to get mixed up. Apologies for that.


  • #220
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    552533.jpg

    Any of ye remember the time Gerry forgot to switch accounts when replying to himself??

    Glass houses and all that.[/QUOT

    Gerry been having convos with himself for years....back when he was consulting the army council


  • #221
    archfi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭archfi


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

    It's silly stuff this online accounts. Personally I think all boards users should have to submit proof of ID before posting.
    Sure that happens when voting, but for some, the illegal actvity of voting more than once is seen as a bit of fun.

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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  • #222
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    You'd have to ask where all the high moral grounders are now that somebody has been caught with 9 trolling accounts on Twitter.

    A wet week ago the apocalypse was imminent because the world had gone to hell in a social media abuse handcart.

    But silence out there on this and all we are hearing is excuse making and look over there'isms


    Maybe because Harris isn't a political figure. He's an old and frankly loopy, journalist, and one-time Sinn Fein member.



    Why would 'the usuals' be on here defending him?


    Anyway, he set up a fake account to do a bit of trolling, hardly the crime of the century. I just posted evidence that your former party leader was at the same craic.



    It's hardly as bad as the stuff Dowdall and the lads get up to?


  • #223
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    archfi wrote: »
    Sure that happens when voting, but for some, the illegal actvity of voting more than once is seen as a bit of fun.


    If someone has two homes and is party of two seperate communities it's not really a big deal. Different constituencies so its not at the expense of anyone.


  • #224
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    You see that is tyical you are implying the 'modern buzzword' toxic masculinity,
    Whereas I have read the actual tweets and I am merely giving my take on them.

    Moore is playing up to your 'demographic' is my view. And if you post the actual tweets Harris said and compare and discect them in context v what Moore herself said in the conflated tweet it stands out.

    Are you willing to do that?

    What you are supposed to do on boards.ie is attack the post and not the poster?
    Yet you are suddenly going on about 'threats to masculinity' :eek:

    I have merely looked at Moore's words in her tweet as posted by another poster and looked at the actual 'Harris' tweets in question themselves.

    There does seem to be some disparity there, regardless of the gender of the two individuals involved. I believe first and foremost both are journalists playing an 'online game'.

    And Moore has played it far better than Harris - simple as that.

    True I am a cynic by nature. But I can see what is going on it is all very boards.ie-esque. In my opinion. Certain patterns reoccur regarding agendas, image, emotional manipulation, sarcasm etc etc etc.

    You seem to have pinpointed tweets that she has to be talking about. How do you know those are the exact tweets?

    Even if they are, the mental gymnastics you play to try and downplay what she's had to go through is astounding. To say she has needed counselling so she can 'play the game' and go on Dancing With The Stars.

    Honestly. Cop on, like. It's an absolutely batsh*t take and you're the only one who is trying so hard to dismiss what she said.

    She's called a terrorist for the simple reason that she's from Derry and she writes columns about how the government are completely out of touch with what it's like to live in the North.

    Dismiss, deny, deflect, distract. It's the same ol' bullsh*t where some people just can't accept the notion that some men are absolute animals in the way they treat women.


  • #225
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Bambi wrote: »
    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    552533.jpg

    Any of ye remember the time Gerry forgot to switch accounts when replying to himself??

    Glass houses and all that.

    Gerry been having convos with himself for years....back when he was consulting the army council

    And there was the 'Teddy Bear' stuff etc which was very odd.

    We can now conclude what many have suspected for many a year that some hardline SF activists and anti hardline SF activists have been playing a seedy murky online game in the shadows. Which is all designed to further their own 'cause' and disparage the other.

    Ironically Harris who 'masked' himself while in his view fighting 'masked men' got caught by the law.
    Harris is now metaphorically on the lamb. Irony not lost on me.

    My cynicism levels could not be much higher now.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #226
    archfi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭archfi


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    If someone has two homes and is party of two seperate communities it's not really a big deal. Different constituencies so its not at the expense of anyone.
    It is illegal, fraudulent and anti-democratic.

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



  • #227
    Kumejima
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Kumejima


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Simple solution is that people stop **** posting.



    Neither, I'm talking about posts and tweets like that dopey one talking about real rugby and tag rugby, implying women who receive certain comments need to get over it and become a man about it.




    "Dopey" "Incel"? Wow, sounds like abuse to me. Mods!! Get in here!!! I shouldn't be subjected to this! I'm so sorry this happened to me!



    Oh no wait, I got on a public forum and spouted my opinions to the whole world, and then someone turned up and had a go at me. Attacked not just my post but my character.



    What gives you the right to do this Hurrache, and not Eoghan Harris, even if he's using an anonymous account? You are too right? Or are you called Joe Aloysius Hurrache?


    My point is this, if you get up in a park and start ranting, someone may tell you " Shut up you tit". Now if you are too fragile to handle that type of abuse don't put yourself in the public square. Journalism most certainly is not the profession for you.



    Nothing of what Harris said was a direct threat to the journalist, kinda stupid and base yes but no worse than has been thrown around this very discussion thread.


    If us civilians can be name called, called out, derided etc on this very thread and can just, you know, not curl up into a ball and die, then surely a professional journalist should be able to do the same on a public platform she freely chooses to broadcast from.



    Describing this whole incident as harrassment and abuse is ridiculous, he's not pushing dogsh%t through her front door.

    Pulling the woman card is just the cherry on top - embarrassing


  • #228
    AdrianBalboa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    If someone has two homes and is party of two seperate communities it's not really a big deal. Different constituencies so its not at the expense of anyone.

    It’s a victimless crime.


  • #229
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Maybe because Harris isn't a political figure. He's an old and frankly loopy, journalist, and one-time Sinn Fein member.



    Why would 'the usuals' be on here defending him?


    Anyway, he set up a fake account to do a bit of trolling, hardly the crime of the century. I just posted evidence that your former party leader was at the same craic.



    It's hardly as bad as the stuff Dowdall and the lads get up to?

    More look over there.

    There is a difference between having two accounts and being a misogynistic, defamatory troll.
    If Adams was using anonymous accounts to do the above he is liable to the same criticism and a thread of his own on that topic.

    You could compare what Harris was doing to anything you wish, that does not diminish what he was doing though.


  • #230
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Kumejima wrote: »
    "Dopey" "Incel"? Wow, sounds like abuse to me. Mods!! Get in here!!! I shouldn't be subjected to this! I'm so sorry this happened to me!



    Oh no wait, I got on a public forum and spouted my opinions to the whole world, and then someone turned up and had a go at me. Attacked not just my post but my character.



    What gives you the right to do this Hurrache, and not Eoghan Harris, even if he's using an anonymous account? You are too right? Or are you called Joe Aloysius Hurrache?


    My point is this, if you get up in a park and start ranting, someone may tell you " Shut up you tit". Now if you are too fragile to handle that type of abuse don't put yourself in the public square. Journalism most certainly is not the profession for you.



    Nothing of what Harris said was a direct threat to the journalist, kinda stupid and base yes but no worse than has been thrown around this very discussion thread.


    If us civilians can be name called, called out, derided etc on this very thread and can just, you know, not curl up into a ball and die, then surely a professional journalist should be able to do the same on a public platform she freely chooses to broadcast from.



    Describing this whole incident as harrassment and abuse is ridiculous, he's not pushing dogsh%t through her front door.

    Pulling the woman card is just the cherry on top - embarrassing

    You have access to this fake account's PMs?


  • #231
    archfi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭archfi


    Has there been any more on that Twitter account being run by a 'collective' of media heads?
    I've heard the reports of 8 other anon-but-really-public-figures accounts being linked to it

    The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution.

    The Entryism process: 1) Demand access; 2) Demand accommodation; 3) Demand a seat at the table; 4) Demand to run the table; 5) Demand to run the institution; 6) Run the institution to produce more activists and policy until they run it into the ground.



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  • #232
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    More look over there.

    There is a difference between having two accounts and being a misogynistic, defamatory troll.
    If Adams was using anonymous accounts to do the above he is liable to the same criticism and a thread of his own on that topic.

    You could compare what Harris was doing to anything you wish, that does not diminish what he was doing though.


    I hold elected political leaders to a higher standard than hack journalists.


  • #233
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    If someone has two homes and is party of two seperate communities it's not really a big deal. Different constituencies so its not at the expense of anyone.

    What, now??? :confused:


  • #234
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    archfi wrote: »
    Has there been any more on that Twitter account being run by a 'collective' of media heads?
    I've heard the reports of 8 other anon-but-really-public-figures accounts being linked to it


    No. And INM will not be actively investigating it. Nothing more to see really. It's all a bit of blah.The scalp has be had so that is the end I believe.


  • #235
    AdrianBalboa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭AdrianBalboa


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    You have access to this fake account's PMs?

    It’s up to you to prove yourself right, mate, not someone else to prove you wrong. Rule number 1 in civil discourse.


  • #236
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    archfi wrote: »
    Has there been any more on that Twitter account being run by a 'collective' of media heads?
    I've heard the reports of 8 other anon-but-really-public-figures accounts being linked to it

    I saw a few tweets saying the accounts were accessed by more than one person. And calling on INM to reveal who they were. Don't know where the info is coming from though.


  • #237
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    I hold elected political leaders to a higher standard than hack journalists.

    So you can show us his second account trolling and defaming people then?


  • #238
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The funniest thing about this is that Twitter is an absolute cesspit of humanity, and you really need your head examined if you see it as part of civic discourse. Harris had a weekly column where he managed to annoy both Shinners and Blueshirts and he blew it.


  • #239
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Kumejima wrote: »
    "Dopey" "Incel"? Wow, sounds like abuse to me. Mods!! Get in here!!! I shouldn't be subjected to this! I'm so sorry this happened to me!

    What on earth are you on about? Are you so touchy that you're reading, and actually putting in quotes, words that I never posted?

    Maybe you just don't understand what quotes are for.

    Simpler explanation is your lack of basic comprehension given you also think I called you dopey. As for the rest of your post, bizarre.


  • #240
    Kumejima
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Kumejima


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    You have access to this fake account's PMs?




    No, and neither would she, unless she deliberately clicked into them?! Oh my God, if only there was a way for her not to do that?


    Cyberbullying is literally the only type of bullying where you have to, with full agency, collaborate in your own bullying otherwise its completely impotent.


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  • #241
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,023 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The funniest thing about this is that Twitter is an absolute cesspit of humanity, and you really need your head examined if you see it as part of civic discourse. Harris had a weekly column where he managed to annoy both Shinners and Blueshirts and he blew it.

    Harris was laughed at as a journalist mostly.
    His 'spirited' intervention in the last election on behalf of Micheál did for SF what a Paisley rant used to do, I would imagine.
    Now he faces two legal cases with probably more to come...popcorn time as journalism in Ireland scampers to cover their traces. Is it too late though.


  • #242
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    AdrianBalboa wrote: »
    It’s up to you to prove yourself right, mate, not someone else to prove you wrong. Rule number 1 in civil discourse.

    Wtf are you on about? I'm not making an accusation that the allegation from Aoife Moore is false. The poster I quoted was. I'm asking that poster for their proof that they're right!


  • #243
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Kumejima wrote: »
    No, and neither would she, unless she deliberately clicked into them?! Oh my God, if only there was a way for her not to do that?


    Cyberbullying is literally the only type of bullying where you have to, with full agency, collaborate in your own bullying otherwise its completely impotent.

    Really well done here. Literally blaming victims of bullying everywhere for not just ignoring it. Disgusting opinion.


  • #244
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,209 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Kumejima wrote: »
    Cyberbullying is literally the only type of bullying where you have to, with full agency, collaborate in your own bullying otherwise its completely impotent.
    of all the wrong things i've read on boards, this is one of the wrongiest.


  • #245
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,910 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Faugheen wrote: »
    You seem to have pinpointed tweets that she has to be talking about. How do you know those are the exact tweets?

    It is not deny deflect. Again you are try to shoot the messager rather than the messenge.

    Yesterday I saw the Pym/Harris account defending himself to Moore's tweet.

    Another person on twitter quickly respond with an 'Ahem found the tweets in five minutes to put Harris in his place.' With screenshots of said tweets.

    I read tweets out of curiosity and in my view in context, they do not correlate completely with what Moore said. Which made me extremely cynical about the whole scenario.

    Is someone saying you are 'sniping in the bushes with your arse in the air' honestly the same as person saying to a woman that she has big arse?
    For example.

    Is someone saying 'does it turn you on?' have the same context to that comment when it was in response to Moore commenting that - She was pleased that 'Mary Lou became the first defacto female leader of the opposition one day in the Dail'

    In my view it does not.

    --

    Was Harris right to do so - NO
    Was it underhanded of Harris - YES
    Did Moore twist things slightly to make the narrative more pointed - (in my view YES)

    --

    Am I glad Harris is gone - YES
    Am I a fan of Harris - NO

    --

    I am not saying that sort of tweet is the the right thing to do because it is implying that she is a lawless Republican. Particularly for someone in the public eye like Harris.

    But it is clear that Moore conflated things to make Harris's tweets fit a certain narrative.

    It worked superbly, judging by the number of likes and comments it received.
    Moore's profile will sky rocket.
    Fair dues and all that she played it well.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #246
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    AdrianBalboa wrote: »
    It’s up to you to prove yourself right, mate, not someone else to prove you wrong. Rule number 1 in civil discourse.

    No it’s actually up to the poster who is accusing Aoife Moore of lying to prove themselves right.


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  • #247
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    ...
    But it is clear that Moore conflated things to make Harris's tweets fit a certain narrative. ...

    This is not clear at all.

    Who are you to tell her that her she wasn't abused?


  • #248
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Harris was laughed at as a journalist mostly.
    His 'spirited' intervention in the last election on behalf of Micheál did for SF what a Paisley rant used to do, I would imagine.
    Now he faces two legal cases with probably more to come...popcorn time as journalism in Ireland scampers to cover their traces. Is it too late though.

    Have you word that the 4th estate are in crisis over this? Are their other developments to come?

    The narrative that journalism and the media are one homogeneous grouping out to get a particular party or group is a sinister one straight out of the Trump playbook. It’s an idea gaining traction in some murkier quarters.


  • #249
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    So you can show us his second account trolling and defaming people then?


    More bluster and bull Francie. We have no idea what Gerry's second account was doing, only obvious he had one as he replied to himself. God knows what he was up to with it.


    Anyway, to be honest, Gerry's online activities are the very least of his crimes. Doesn't bother me what he was it. The hyprocrisy is all I'm pointing out.


  • #250
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    It is not deny deflect. Again you are try to shoot the messager rather than the messenge.

    Yesterday I saw the Pym/Harris account defending himself to Moore's tweet.

    Another person on twitter quickly respond with an 'Ahem found the tweets in five minutes to put Harris in his place.' With screenshots of said tweets.

    I read tweets out of curiosity and in my view in context, they do not correlate completely with what Moore said. Which made me extremely cynical about the whole scenario.

    Is someone saying you are 'sniping in the bushes with your arse in the air' honestly the same as person saying to a woman that she has big arse?
    For example.

    Is someone saying 'does it turn you on?' have the same context to that comment when it was in response to Moore commenting that - She was pleased that 'Mary Lou became the first defacto female leader of the opposition one day in the Dail'

    In my view it does not.

    --

    Was Harris right to do so - NO
    Was it underhanded of Harris - YES
    Did Moore twist things slightly to make the narrative more pointed - (in my view YES)

    --

    Am I glad Harris is gone - YES
    Am I a fan of Harris - NO

    --

    I am not saying that sort of tweet is the the right thing to do because it is implying that she is a lawless Republican. Particularly for someone in the public eye like Harris.

    But it is clear that Moore conflated things to make Harris's tweets fit a certain narrative.

    It worked superbly, judging by the number of likes and comments it received.
    Moore's profile will sky rocket.
    Fair dues and all that she played it well.

    It is deny deflect. It’s a common fact that female politicians and journalists get untold amounts of abuse, more so than their male counterparts and you’re here trying to dismiss everything she said by making up context to suit yourself.

    Your basis for this is tweets that someone else got? Did she say these were the tweets? I don’t recall her saying so. The turn on tweet is in response to her saying she’s the first female leader of the opposition. It’s blatantly obvious what is being said here and you’re the only one saying otherwise.

    Her profile will sky-rocket? She’s already one of the most recognisable journalists in the country as a result of golfgate. The fact your first thought was to try to discredit her shows that she clearly butters you up the wrong way.

    To say she’s ‘playing a game’ over something so traumatic that she needs counselling is a dick move. Why would any woman say anything if the first thing you assume is that she’s manipulating the facts or even lying?

    Honestly, some weird people on these boards. Genuinely very weird.


  • #251
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    This is not clear at all.

    Who are you to tell her that her she wasn't abused?

    He’s a man, and she’s a woman who doesn’t know her place.


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