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Corona virus and social protection

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge




  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭madmax72


    I went to the social welfare office last Monday after the pub I worked in closed down(hoping to open back up after this).The woman that worked there gave me jobseekers benefit form to fill out.I have not heard anything since.My question is should she have given me the covid form instead and does it matter that I filled out the jobseekers benefit form


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    Hi.
    It's probably no one's business but has anyone received any welfare payments yet? I applied online for Jobseeker's Allowance and sent away the yellow form for the Covid-19 Emergency Payment.
    I understand that patience is key at this moment in time but I know after this weekend my struggles will commence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    I did, it only took about 4 days. I didnt even properly apply for it, I needed to get a letter from my boss, I was told I wouldnt get s/w until I brought in the letter. Got payment from social welfare and letter to say it was awarded before I got a chance to bring them in letter from my boss.
    Give them a ring, they may just have a backlog.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 jimiseve


    I am 66 and do some part-time work to bolster my state pension. I ahve lost all this work now. Am I correct in saying that I cannot apply for the COVID Emergency payment. Seems a bit unfair for the older workforce.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭eildar


    madmax72 wrote: »
    I went to the social welfare office last Monday after the pub I worked in closed down(hoping to open back up after this).The woman that worked there gave me jobseekers benefit form to fill out.I have not heard anything since.My question is should she have given me the covid form instead and does it matter that I filled out the jobseekers benefit form


    We filled in the COVID19 form. But we spoke to a lady who told us to fill in the jobseekers form aswell and by the time the 6 weeks emergency payments finish the other form will be in the process of being looked at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    jimiseve wrote: »
    I am 66 and do some part-time work to bolster my state pension. I ahve lost all this work now. Am I correct in saying that I cannot apply for the COVID Emergency payment. Seems a bit unfair for the older workforce.

    If you already have a state pension then you can’t get the emergency payment. The state has very limited resources in this emergency so the money has to be used fairly. The emergency payment is for workers being laid off with no income at all to buy food and fuel etc. 58000 have applied. That’s a possible cost of €71000000 over only 6 weeks.
    If you are on a reduced pension of less than €237 per week because you were working then you can ask for your pension to be increased to that amount. You will then have €34 more then the people only getting €203 most of whom have got rent/mortgage to pay.
    If you are struggling to buy food and fuel on your pension then there are many charities that can help you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    jimiseve wrote: »
    I am 66 and do some part-time work to bolster my state pension. I ahve lost all this work now. Am I correct in saying that I cannot apply for the COVID Emergency payment. Seems a bit unfair for the older workforce.

    You can’t apply for jobseekers benefit/allowance as it is and this payment is merely an emergency jobseekers payment.

    For the rest who have applied for the emergency payment get your jobseekers application in ASAP too.

    Fingers crossed your work will come back but don’t wait to find out. If you get work, just let them know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    I have applied for the Job Seeker's Allowance and sent away the Emergency Payment forms on Tuesday before they became available online. Should I apply again online for the emergency payment or should my original form suffice?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Good morning all,

    Firstly what a terrible situation many people find themselves in, stay safe!

    Just in relation to payment I am self employed and applied last Wednesday for the emergency payment as have been out of work now for 2 weeks, I know its a waiting game but with being my families sole provider of income i'm panicking as i'm not sure will i get the payment.

    Has anyone applied since last Wednesday and heard anything back?

    Can see little to no official information online with regards FAQ's on the matter although i presume they have better things to do.

    Thank all in advance for any help as we all are the panicing has set in as to how food can go on the table...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    amc19 wrote: »
    Good morning all,

    Firstly what a terrible situation many people find themselves in, stay safe!

    Just in relation to payment I am self employed and applied last Wednesday for the emergency payment as have been out of work now for 2 weeks, I know its a waiting game but with being my families sole provider of income i'm panicking as i'm not sure will i get the payment.

    Has anyone applied since last Wednesday and heard anything back?

    Can see little to no official information online with regards FAQ's on the matter although i presume they have better things to do.

    Thank all in advance for any help as we all are the panicing has set in as to how food can go on the table...
    Apparantly the payments start going out today but it will be the end of the week before they're all rolled out due to the high volume of applications.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Apparantly the payments start going out today but it will be the end of the week before they're all rolled out due to the high volume of applications.

    Where can people get information on this? have searched all the internet cant find anything in relation to updates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,981 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    amc19 wrote: »
    Where can people get information on this? have searched all the internet cant find anything in relation to updates?
    That was the quote from the minister last week. I'm on the phone can't post links it was on the RTE website the other day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Maybe whoever does get the payment can let us know in here and when they applied for it, hopefully soon really stressing now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    amc19 wrote: »
    Maybe whoever does get the payment can let us know in here and when they applied for it, hopefully soon really stressing now!

    Please don’t stress. By last Thursday the department said there were 60,000 applications. You can add thousands more since (maybe the same number). I know someone in the department who worked Saturday and Sunday inputting forms into their system. You’ll get paid this week but just have a little patience while the numbers are dealt with


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 943


    amc19 wrote: »
    Maybe whoever does get the payment can let us know in here and when they applied for it, hopefully soon really stressing now!

    My coworker put her form in last Monday and she got paid today. I put mine in Weds and have heard nothing either, so don't panic. It will come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    amc19 wrote: »
    Where can people get information on this? have searched all the internet cant find anything in relation to updates?

    Our dedicated #COVID19 Income Support Helpline is open 9am-5pm: 01-2481398 / 1890-800-024

    Please do not visit your Intreo Centre if at all possible - Signing on has been suspended

    All of our updates, contacts, links & info are at Gov.ie/deaspcovid19

    #COVID19ireland

    Please don’t ring this helpline repeatedly demanding information about your payment. SW staff have worked all weekend trying to process the claims and the less phone calls people have to answer the quicker the turnaround will be. Hopefully everyone will get something this week. In the meantime complete a JSB application form and send that in in case your not back up and running in 6 weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭tempnam


    Hi all,

    Sorry if this has been posted already, but I have no idea where to start...

    We are a family of 5 (2 parents & 3 children). I work full-time and my wife is a stay-at-home mother.

    We have never claimed any state benefits and as I understand it we were never entitled to anything due to me being above any salary thresholds. All we do get is the monthly children's allowance payment. - Which is fine by the way, no issue with this...

    But, it looks like I may be laid off next month if this pandemic continues to affect the economy.

    Is there anywhere I can calculate what payments we/I may be entitled to in the event that I am laid off?

    Thanks for reading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    tempnam wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Sorry if this has been posted already, but I have no idea where to start...

    We are a family of 5 (2 parents & 3 children). I work full-time and my wife is a stay-at-home mother.

    We have never claimed any state benefits and as I understand it we were never entitled to anything due to me being above any salary thresholds. All we do get is the monthly children's allowance payment. - Which is fine by the way, no issue with this...

    But, it looks like I may be laid off next month if this pandemic continues to affect the economy.

    Is there anywhere I can calculate what payments we/I may be entitled to in the event that I am laid off?

    Thanks for reading.

    Contact your social welfare


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    tempnam wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Sorry if this has been posted already, but I have no idea where to start...

    We are a family of 5 (2 parents & 3 children). I work full-time and my wife is a stay-at-home mother.

    We have never claimed any state benefits and as I understand it we were never entitled to anything due to me being above any salary thresholds. All we do get is the monthly children's allowance payment. - Which is fine by the way, no issue with this...

    But, it looks like I may be laid off next month if this pandemic continues to affect the economy.

    Is there anywhere I can calculate what payments we/I may be entitled to in the event that I am laid off?

    Thanks for reading.

    If your wife has no income and she has savings/assets (not the family home) in her name of less then €20000 then you will get:
    €203 (for yourself)
    €134.70 (for her)
    €36 for each child under 12
    €40 for each child over 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Contact your social welfare

    Please don’t do that at the moment. The best thing to do is fill in the appropriate application form and post it in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    Thought the CovID 19 emergency payment was through the bank? My dad filled it out with his bank details and then applied online for the jobseekers. He just got word back that he has to collect the 203 in the post office tomorrow. Is this the norm


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Thought the CovID 19 emergency payment was through the bank? My dad filled it out with his bank details and then applied online for the jobseekers. He just got word back that he has to collect the 203 in the post office tomorrow. Is this the norm

    Maybe he incorrectly filled in bank details and they sent to post office instead?

    How did he get the communication?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    amc19 wrote: »
    Maybe he incorrectly filled in bank details and they sent to post office instead?

    How did he get the communication?

    Email today. I filled out the forms for him. He's out of work since the pub closures


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Email today. I filled out the forms for him. He's out of work since the pub closures

    It’s normal for jobseekers to be paid at a post office. They are changing it so that temporarily it can be paid to bank accounts. It looks like they skipped the emergency payment and put him straight on jobseekers.

    There’s now a form where you can change how jobseekers is paid. Get that filled out and send it in


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭tempnam


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Thought the CovID 19 emergency payment was through the bank? My dad filled it out with his bank details and then applied online for the jobseekers. He just got word back that he has to collect the 203 in the post office tomorrow. Is this the norm

    Hope not. How are you supposed to lodge cash... BOI are shutting a lot of branches, KBC bank don't accept cash in their branches... If you have DD's from your account but cant get the cash into your account - how do you get around that one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    tempnam wrote: »
    Hope not. How are you supposed to lodge cash... BOI are shutting a lot of branches, KBC bank don't accept cash in their branches... If you have DD's from your account but cant get the cash into your account - how do you get around that one?

    Not that it helps everyone but here are the branches of BOI that will remain open :

    https://www.bankofireland.com/help-centre/branch-opening-during-covid-19/


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Our dedicated #COVID19 Income Support Helpline is open 9am-5pm: 01-2481398 / 1890-800-024

    Please do not visit your Intreo Centre if at all possible - Signing on has been suspended

    All of our updates, contacts, links & info are at Gov.ie/deaspcovid19

    #COVID19ireland

    Please don’t ring this helpline repeatedly demanding information about your payment. SW staff have worked all weekend trying to process the claims and the less phone calls people have to answer the quicker the turnaround will be. Hopefully everyone will get something this week. In the meantime complete a JSB application form and send that in in case your not back up and running in 6 weeks.

    I would rather not ring as I know there busy and I see today from the news that the payments are tomorrow I’m just concerned as have not received any communication? Email is correct on form etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,310 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    amc19 wrote: »
    I would rather not ring as I know there busy and I see today from the news that the payments are tomorrow I’m just concerned as have not received any communication? Email is correct on form etc

    They’re prioritising getting people paid over communicating. The form says check your account as you may receive it before they communicate

    Again, we’re talking about roughly 100,000 applications in a week for a scheme that wasn’t even designed 10 days ago

    It’s a lot of work. Just be patient


  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭tempnam


    Mogfather wrote: »
    Not that it helps everyone but here are the branches of BOI that will remain open :

    https://www.bankofireland.com/help-centre/branch-opening-during-covid-19/

    I'm just having flashbacks of the day I walked into my local KBC branch to lodge cash into my current account. When I tried to hand in cash the person behind the counter stood back and put their hands up in the air..... you'd swear I was trying to hold the place up!

    "oh no, we don't accept cash here"...... when I asked how do I get the cash into my current account their solution was to lodge it into an account with another bank or credit union and then do an EFT to the KBC account... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    tempnam wrote: »
    I'm just having flashbacks of the day I walked into my local KBC branch to lodge cash into my current account. When I tried to hand in cash the person behind the counter stood back and put their hands up in the air..... you'd swear I was trying to hold the place up!

    "oh no, we don't accept cash here"...... when I asked how do I get the cash into my current account their solution was to lodge it into an account with another bank or credit union and then do an EFT to the KBC account... :rolleyes:

    Wow, that's absolutely ridiculous! I wonder what that's about? 🀔


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Dodge wrote: »
    They’re prioritising getting people paid over communicating. The form says check your account as you may receive it before they communicate

    Again, we’re talking about roughly 100,000 applications in a week for a scheme that wasn’t even designed 10 days ago

    It’s a lot of work. Just be patient

    I can completely appreciate that hence why don’t want to ring taking up there time, just not easy with a partner and babies at home , 3 jobs gone in space of 48 hours in the household last weekend,


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    So if I'm gathering this correctly.... Those who haven't received their emergency payment yet through the bank will receive it tomorrow via Post Office? Does it matter what Post Office?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Mogfather wrote: »
    So if I'm gathering this correctly.... Those who haven't received their emergency payment yet through the bank will receive it tomorrow via Post Office? Does it matter what Post Office?

    No it’s through your bank and the first 60,000 payments supposed to be tomorrow check newstalk website that’s where the article is


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    People who applied for the COVID-19 unemployment payment last week will get their first payment tomorrow.

    https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-unemployment-payment-2-987279


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    So it's 203€ every 2 weeks?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Mogfather wrote: »
    So it's 203€ every 2 weeks?

    No it’s €203 weekly since they mentioned that it’s every two weeks it would seem like a double payment tomorrow which would be €406


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Mogfather


    amc19 wrote: »
    No it’s €203 weekly since they mentioned that it’s every two weeks it would seem like a double payment tomorrow which would be €406

    I was hoping for that answer. Thank you and thanks to everyone else for your help!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    amc19 wrote: »
    No it’s €203 weekly since they mentioned that it’s every two weeks it would seem like a double payment tomorrow which would be €406

    No, it will be a single payment, they are moving to fortnightly payments for Jobseekers Payments from next week.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 amc19


    Necro wrote: »
    No, it will be a single payment, they are moving to fortnightly payments for Jobseekers Payments from next week.

    The wording of the article would suggest in relation to the EMERGENCY COVID payment...

    There is a payment tomorrow

    Then one again two weeks from tomorrow

    Which would suggest tomorrow’s will be 2 weeks worth ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    amc19 wrote: »
    The wording of the article would suggest in relation to the EMERGENCY COVID payment...

    There is a payment tomorrow

    Then one again two weeks from tomorrow

    Which would suggest tomorrow’s will be 2 weeks worth ??

    If you don’t get a payment and have absolutely no income then you can make an application to your local CWO for an SWA. The CWO will be found at your local SW office.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    amc19 wrote: »
    The wording of the article would suggest in relation to the EMERGENCY COVID payment...

    There is a payment tomorrow

    Then one again two weeks from tomorrow

    Which would suggest tomorrow’s will be 2 weeks worth ??

    No.

    Payments are running as normal for Jobseeker's this week.

    Next week there will be a double payment when Jobseeker's move to fortnightly payments.

    Certain payments are starting to move to fortnightly this week but Jobseeker's is not one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭upinthesky


    How do you know if you are going to receive the payment or not, i applied when the form first came out and posted it off but have heard nothing since, my partner is working so Im not sure if that affects it, but so far no confirmation.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Could anyone tell me if you are not laid off but have compulsory unpaid leave of absence for several weeks do you qualify for social welfare?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stheno wrote: »
    Could anyone tell me if you are not laid off but have compulsory unpaid leave of absence for several weeks do you qualify for social welfare?

    I believe so as it's slightly broader due to circumstances.

    If you're still employed but hours are cut or cut completely you may qualify for special payment.

    They have asked the companies to do this and in return they will get the payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Colleague of mine told the boss he wont be returning to work tomorrow for fears of being contaminated ,he is 62 and on blood pressure tablets, now work as not closed rest of staff continuing to work as normal (non essential), can he claim the €203?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    Colleague of mine told the boss he wont be returning to work tomorrow for fears of being contaminated ,he is 62 and on blood pressure tablets, now work as not closed rest of staff continuing to work as normal (non essential), can he claim the €203?

    He is self isolating but isn't ill....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    He is self isolating but isn't ill....
    So no then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    So no then?

    Only way is if he gets doctor to sign him off or the job cut his hours.


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