Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

Odhinn · 27-06-2019 3:19pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

I believe Trump has almost 0% control of America now. Bolton, Pompeo and forces from foreign anti-Iran entities literally call the shots. This crowd are capable of anything and they want one thing regarding Iran: a colony.

Sadly, this nuclear option is in their heads and I can see the evil logic. 1st of all, threaten Iran with a nuclear attack unless Ali Khamenei obeys certain demands that make Iran a colony of the evil in control of America now. Khamenei calls their bluff.

The regime in control of America order 2 nuclear bombings of 2 relatively unimportant Iranian cities (and there is massive loss of life) and threaten 'Tehran is next'. An offer is made: Khamenei can stay on as Shah and Hassan Rouhani as president but they have to install a new government and give the guys in control of America most of Iran's assets. Social and political reforms are also demanded of Khamenei to make things look 'good' in the eyes of the world. Khamenei of course capitulates and Iran becomes 'an important strategic partner of the US'. This is EXACTLY what was done somewhere else further East of Iran in the 1940s.

A colony? No. That's being a bit silly tbh.

The Late Late Show · 27-06-2019 5:04pm

Odhinn wrote: »

A colony? No. That's being a bit silly tbh.

Not a colony in the traditional sense but these neo-Republican slimeballs are tied in with the Saudis and have got 'America' or whatever that place is now addicted to Saudi oil. And that's the main problem for all this drivel.

The Late Late Show · 27-06-2019 5:07pm

Gatling wrote: »

,I'd imagine they have watched too much game of thrones

And the show on at 10.25 on RTE 2 this evening that shall not be named!!! And Batman (Trump as the Joker and Giuliani as the Penguin!). But Trump thinks he's Batman if he watched Batman Begins and Wayne Tower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

archer22 · 27-06-2019 6:47pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Not a colony in the traditional sense but these neo-Republican slimeballs are tied in with the Saudis and have got 'America' or whatever that place is now addicted to Saudi oil. And that's the main problem for all this drivel.

A Vassal State is the term you are looking for...same as all the others including the UK that make up the US empire.

notobtuse · 27-06-2019 6:51pm

The Late Late Show wrote: »

Not a colony in the traditional sense but these neo-Republican slimeballs are tied in with the Saudis and have got 'America' or whatever that place is now addicted to Saudi oil. And that's the main problem for all this drivel.

America is now a net exporter of energy. Do try and keep up.

smurfjed · 27-06-2019 7:15pm

It is John Bolton and Mike Pompeo working on behalf of Saudi Arabia, Mojahedin e Khalq and Netanyahu that controls it and it is their agenda that is being pushed

So how do you think they are controlling Bolton / Pompeo? Money or sex?

The Late Late Show · 27-06-2019 7:38pm

notobtuse wrote: »

America is now a net exporter of energy. Do try and keep up.

Yes but they are still besotted with Saudi Arabia! That doesn't change the North American despots' world view which is stuck in the bloody cold war. They haven't moved past 1981.

The Late Late Show · 27-06-2019 7:40pm

smurfjed wrote: »

So how do you think they are controlling Bolton / Pompeo? Money or sex?

These evil people love both of these and pretend to be motivated by religion. The North American despots and the Saudi despots are the very same in this and all ways.

Odhinn · 27-06-2019 8:55pm

smurfjed wrote: »

So how do you think they are controlling Bolton / Pompeo? Money or sex?

Sexy money?

Say my name · 29-06-2019 11:51am

Isn't it good of Iran not to be doing any attacks while Trump, Bin Salman and co. are busy in talks at the G20?

Gatling · 29-06-2019 12:04pm

Say my name wrote: »

Isn't it good of Iran not to be doing any attacks while Trump, Bin Salman and co. are busy in talks at the G20?

Sure it's only Saturday or maybe they are too busy enjoying pride weekend

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 30-06-2019 5:05pm

John Bolton is an evil son of a bitch. Over 100,000 deaths in Iraq, the creation of ISIS, the Syrian refugee crisis, the inspiration for suicide attacks right across Europe, the mess in Afghanistan.

All the above was based on lies. There were no WMD's. There's simply no credibility with them.

Any American I've met has been very nice and friendly. But they end up with a government that has elements there that have very dark and dangerous motivations.

Bolton still has a voice in power. I mean he actually defends the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They were and are complete clusterfuks.

Wars are messy and unpredictable. It doesn't follow the logic of - Saddam Hussein is a bad man, let's take him out, now everything is okay and fine. No, they ruined that country for generations. All the dead people there couldn't give a crap who is in power now.

It's like with North Korea. They deserve to be liberated from a tyrant for sure. But nobody knows how things will play out if it's done. Japan could get nukes, you could have millions of refugees flooding over the border in South Korea and China, you have hundreds of thousands of North Korean loyalists prepared for suicide bombings in South Korea. And on and on.

The Late Late Show · 30-06-2019 5:21pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

John Bolton is an evil son of a bitch. Over 100,000 deaths in Iraq, the creation of ISIS, the Syrian refugee crisis, the inspiration for suicide attacks right across Europe, the mess in Afghanistan.

All the above was based on lies. There were no WMD's. There's simply no credibility with them.

Any American I've met has been very nice and friendly. But they end up with a government that has elements there that have very dark and dangerous motivations.

Bolton still has a voice in power. I mean he actually defends the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They were and are complete clusterfuks.

Wars are messy and unpredictable. It doesn't follow the logic of - Saddam Hussein is a bad man, let's take him out, now everything is okay and fine. No, they ruined that country for generations. All the dead people there couldn't give a crap who is in power now.

It's like with North Korea. They deserve to be liberated from a tyrant for sure. But nobody knows how things will play out if it's done. Japan could get nukes, you could have millions of refugees flooding over the border in South Korea and China, you have hundreds of thousands of North Korean loyalists prepared for suicide bombings in South Korea. And on and on.

Bolton is the major reason for all this evil and there was no need whatsoever for Trump to have included him into his government. By doing so, Trump sold out his country to the very thing Americans voted against. Unless Trump can get rid of the Bolton and Pompeo regime, his chances of re-election are slim.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 30-06-2019 5:48pm

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Bolton is the major reason for all this evil and there was no need whatsoever for Trump to have included him into his government. By doing so, Trump sold out his country to the very thing Americans voted against. Unless Trump can get rid of the Bolton and Pompeo regime, his chances of re-election are slim.

That's the thing with Bolton and Pompeo. They are actually not patriotic or loyal to the American people. They are hurting them financially with the cost of these wars, troops are dying because of them, they are creating more enemies of the people, and any 'soft' power that the US has is being eroded.

They are basically anti American while pretending to be patriotic.

The balls on him to say with a straight face how Iraq and Afghanistan went great is unbelievable.

Trump doesn't have a hope of getting reelected with those scumbags in charge.

What motivates these people?

The Late Late Show · 30-06-2019 7:38pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

That's the thing with Bolton and Pompeo. They are actually not patriotic or loyal to the American people. They are hurting them financially with the cost of these wars, troops are dying because of them, they are creating more enemies of the people, and any 'soft' power that the US has is being eroded.

They are basically anti American while pretending to be patriotic.

The balls on him to say with a straight face how Iraq and Afghanistan went great is unbelievable.

Trump doesn't have a hope of getting reelected with those scumbags in charge.

What motivates these people?

They are the worst. Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton are 2 more of the same types. You notice too there was nothing radically wrong with Trump's admin up until April 2018 when Bolton and Pompeo joined. Since then, it is one manufactured cold war era crisis revival after another.

Trump would be better getting rid of these 2 and pinning the blame on them for all that is wrong (they deserve it). They are as you say and for the reason you say anti-Americans pretending to be patriots. You notice GW Bush's admin also improved the minute he got rid of Bolton and the similar Rumsfeld.

Say my name · 30-06-2019 9:34pm

Europe has brought in a trading system to circumvent the US sanctions on Iran.
The price of oil dropped on the announcement of this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/trump-unleash-hell-europe-after-eu-says-spv-circumvent-swift-and-iran-sanctions-now

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-06-2019 10:19pm

Say my name wrote: »

Europe has brought in a trading system to circumvent the US sanctions on Iran.
The price of oil dropped on the announcement of this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/trump-unleash-hell-europe-after-eu-says-spv-circumvent-swift-and-iran-sanctions-now

Trumps twitter should be fun over the next 48 hours.

Kimsang · 01-07-2019 4:22am

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

John Bolton is an evil son of a bitch. Over 100,000 deaths in Iraq, the creation of ISIS, the Syrian refugee crisis, the inspiration for suicide attacks right across Europe, the mess in Afghanistan.
All the above was based on lies. There were no WMD's. There's simply no credibility with them.
Bolton still has a voice in power. I mean he actually defends the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They were and are complete clusterfuks.
It's like with North Korea. They deserve to be liberated from a tyrant for sure.

Mostly agree but the parts in bold you are incorrect.
If I were as sheepish as Trump, I'd definitely have the scariest guy on my team I could think of (as a deterrent).

"Suicide bombings came about through Hafez al-Assad making an alliance with Ayatollah Khomeini who developed the 'new idea' of how to fight his enemies, and defend the revolution. He told his followers that they could destroy themselves in order to save the revolution. providing that in the process they killed as many enemies around them as possible.
It was a weird perversion of Shia Islam, that was harboured in Syria by Hafez al-Assad. 90% of fighters in Iraq were foreign."
Hypernormalization- Adam Curtis

Detailed 27mins15seconds in

What you say about liberating North Korea is true, they deserve it, but even without counting their nukes, they have enough live ammunition pointed at Seoul, they could decimate the city in a couple of hours.
I mean look what happened to Libya, and of course Iraq. Is removing these guys always the best thing to do?

Cheerful Spring2 · 01-07-2019 4:23pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48784786

Iran has breached the limit on its stockpile of enriched uranium set under a 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, the global watchdog has confirmed.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said its inspectors had verified the 300kg (660lb) cap had been exceeded.

Iran stepped up production of enriched uranium, which is used to make reactor fuel and potentially nuclear weapons, in response to reinstated US sanctions.

European nations have warned that any violation will bring consequences.

Expect new tensions from this announcement.

Gatling · 01-07-2019 5:06pm

Wonder if Israel might decide to go it alone and hit Iranian facilities ,
The repeated strikes on Syria might be practice runs

notobtuse · 01-07-2019 5:55pm

Gatling wrote: »

Wonder if Israel might decide to go it alone and hit Iranian facilities ,
The repeated strikes on Syria might be practice runs

That possibility is more alarming than what Trump tweets. Is it really worth the long-term consequences of buying into what Instex does in the short-term? I don’t think Israel can take a 10% chance of 100% annihilation from a country that continues to advocate for them being wiped off the map and has been working on developing ‘the bomb.’ Iran is fortifying the defenses of their nuclear sites, and they may soon be nearly impossible to destroy. If an attack by Israel happens on their enrichment facilities (know and unknown to the IAEA) it will probably be in the next couple of months. Will running an end-around US sanctions be worth it then?

Gringo180 · 01-07-2019 6:08pm

notobtuse wrote: »

That possibility is more alarming than what Trump tweets. Is it really worth the long-term consequences of buying into what Instex does in the short-term? I don’t think Israel can take a 10% chance of 100% annihilation from a country that continues to advocate for them being wiped off the map and has been working on developing ‘the bomb.’ Iran is fortifying the defenses of their nuclear sites, and they may soon be nearly impossible to destroy. If an attack by Israel happens on their enrichment facilities (know and unknown to the IAEA) it will probably be in the next couple of months. Will running an end-around US sanctions be worth it then?

Iran has never called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Why does this falsehood keep getting repeated?

I presume your referencing Ahmadinejads comments?

notobtuse · 01-07-2019 6:15pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Iran has never called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Why does this falsehood keep getting repeated?

I presume your referencing Ahmadinejads comments?

Yes, and the like comments ever since.

That far-right institution called The New York Times claims they did.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html

Gringo180 · 01-07-2019 6:20pm

notobtuse wrote: »

Yes, and the like comments ever since.

That far-right institution called The New York Times claims they did.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html

Not once was "Israel", "wipe" and "map" mentioned by Ahmadinejad in this speech. Have you read the full transcript?

notobtuse · 01-07-2019 6:26pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Not once was "Israel", "wipe" and "map" mentioned by Ahmadinejad in this speech. Have you read the full transcript?

I read the reporting. Are you saying The New York Times, and most of the other well-respected media outlets, provides us with fake news?

Gringo180 · 01-07-2019 6:32pm

notobtuse wrote: »

I read the reporting. Are you saying The New York Times, and most of the other well-respected media outlets, provides us with fake news?

Yes. Hardly surprising.

GooglePlus · 01-07-2019 7:17pm

notobtuse wrote: »

I read the reporting. Are you saying The New York Times, and most of the other well-respected media outlets, provides us with fake news?

Don't be fooled into thinking everything you read from these media outlets are true.

Propaganda isn't always as clear as day and it probably won't be in our lifetime that we realise what's been true and what hasn't.

I think it's safe to say that America and anyone supporting them are on the wrong side of history.

But we still need to suck on the nipple to sustain this western lifestyle, so keep the head down and say nothing.

notobtuse · 01-07-2019 7:31pm

GooglePlus wrote: »

Don't be fooled into thinking everything you read from these media outlets are true.

Propaganda isn't always as clear as day and it probably won't be in our lifetime that we realise what's been true and what hasn't.

I think it's safe to say that America and anyone supporting them are on the wrong side of history.

But we still need to suck on the nipple to sustain this western lifestyle, so keep the head down and say nothing.

By all means say what you want... we've become accustomed to negative opinions from people who rely so heavily on us. It's just human nature, I figure. And everyone's allowed their opinions.

The Late Late Show · 01-07-2019 8:28pm

GooglePlus wrote: »

Don't be fooled into thinking everything you read from these media outlets are true.

Propaganda isn't always as clear as day and it probably won't be in our lifetime that we realise what's been true and what hasn't.

I think it's safe to say that America and anyone supporting them are on the wrong side of history.

But we still need to suck on the nipple to sustain this western lifestyle, so keep the head down and say nothing.

I remember well all this anti-Ahmadinejad stuff. It was hyper and mostly untrue. They said he was one of the hostage takers from the cold war era which later was proven false.

Of course, fake news is reported everywhere but often what is not said at all is the worst form of fake news. For example, we never hear who mass produces suicide vests for evil terrorists like Al Qaeda and ISIS or where these evil organisations get all their money and guns. The relationship between America's worst politicians and Saudi Arabia are at the core of why we don't hear about such things.

archer22 · 01-07-2019 8:49pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Not once was "Israel", "wipe" and "map" mentioned by Ahmadinejad in this speech. Have you read the full transcript?

It's strange though that those who portray Israel as the 'victim' of those words never ever mention that Israel has wiped Palestine off the map.

Kimsang · 01-07-2019 8:56pm

That's the problem with the victim-perpetrator mentality. Its far too simplistic and overlooks many, many things.

Gringo180 · 02-07-2019 8:26am

Havent seen much mentioned in the media about Israels bombing of Damascus and Homs yesterday killing at least 16 people including a babyand wounding 21. These strikes coming from Lebanese airspace. It seems the Israeli's can do what they like without facing any consequences from the west.

Zero mention on the BBC or Sky News.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 02-07-2019 8:28am

notobtuse wrote: »

I read the reporting. Are you saying The New York Times, and most of the other well-respected media outlets, provides us with fake news?

Yes. They lied.

But so what. Let isrel defend itself if Iran invades which it won’t.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 02-07-2019 8:40am

notobtuse wrote: »

By all means say what you want... we've become accustomed to negative opinions from people who rely so heavily on us. It's just human nature, I figure. And everyone's allowed their opinions.

You’ve managed to destabilise Europe twice over the last 5 years. Nor do we depend on you. Trump is right about that if nothing else.

Gatling · 02-07-2019 8:43am

Gringo180 wrote: »

Havent seen much mentioned in the media about Israels bombing of Damascus and Homs yesterday

Zero mention on the BBC or Sky News.

They actually did on both ,

It's such a regular occurrence it's not making breaking news headlines but it still gets mentioned

They even showed the Syrian missile that accidentally hit the island of Cyprus ,
Russian planes , foreign islands there not exactly great at shooting at **** they're not supposed to

Gringo180 · 02-07-2019 9:24am

Gatling wrote: »

They actually did on both ,

It's such a regular occurrence it's not making breaking news headlines but it still gets mentioned

They even showed the Syrian missile that accidentally hit the island of Cyprus ,
Russian planes , foreign islands there not exactly great at shooting at **** they're not supposed to

Any chance of a link to the report?

Gatling · 02-07-2019 2:26pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Any chance of a link to the report?

bbc and sky news

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/russian-missile-hits-northern-cyprus-near-village-says-official-11752330

"Syrian state media said Israeli warplanes fired missiles from Lebanese airspace at military positions in the central province of Homs and suburbs of the capital, killing four civilians and wounding 21."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-48824500

said the missiles had hit a research centre and a military ahttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-48824500irport in the Homs area used by Iranian personnel and fighters from Lebanon's Hezbollah movement.

Video caption Syrian state media has released footage of what appears to be missiles being intercepted
Near Damascus, a base hosting Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corp (IRGC) and a research facility in Jamraya were struck, it added.

"Syria's state-run Sana news agency said four civilians had been killed, while the SOHR said six civilians and nine militia fighters, eight of them foreign nationals, died".

Oh but wait sky news or BBC didn't report it seems someone's peddling false news

It was also on live TV too for sky and bbc

Gringo180 · 02-07-2019 3:24pm

Gatling wrote: »

bbc and sky news

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/russian-missile-hits-northern-cyprus-near-village-says-official-11752330

"Syrian state media said Israeli warplanes fired missiles from Lebanese airspace at military positions in the central province of Homs and suburbs of the capital, killing four civilians and wounding 21."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-48824500

said the missiles had hit a research centre and a military ahttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-48824500irport in the Homs area used by Iranian personnel and fighters from Lebanon's Hezbollah movement.

Video caption Syrian state media has released footage of what appears to be missiles being intercepted
Near Damascus, a base hosting Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corp (IRGC) and a research facility in Jamraya were struck, it added.

"Syria's state-run Sana news agency said four civilians had been killed, while the SOHR said six civilians and nine militia fighters, eight of them foreign nationals, died".

Oh but wait sky news or BBC didn't report it seems someone's peddling false news

It was also on live TV too for sky and bbc

Wow. How biased are those headlines. Nothing of the Isráelis first strike in Syria killing and wounding scores of civilians in the headlines.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 3:28pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Havent seen much mentioned in the media about Israels bombing of Damascus and Homs yesterday killing at least 16 people including a babyand wounding 21. These strikes coming from Lebanese airspace. It seems the Israeli's can do what they like without facing any consequences from the west.

Zero mention on the BBC or Sky News.

Iran has made the choice to not fire back right now. They know any attack on Israel would drag in the US military.

Israel bombs stuff in Syria, but not sure if they are degrading Iran and Hezbollah expansion plans. If they are doing so often it probably not too successful.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 3:37pm

notobtuse wrote: »

That possibility is more alarming than what Trump tweets. Is it really worth the long-term consequences of buying into what Instex does in the short-term? I don’t think Israel can take a 10% chance of 100% annihilation from a country that continues to advocate for them being wiped off the map and has been working on developing ‘the bomb.’ Iran is fortifying the defenses of their nuclear sites, and they may soon be nearly impossible to destroy. If an attack by Israel happens on their enrichment facilities (know and unknown to the IAEA) it will probably be in the next couple of months. Will running an end-around US sanctions be worth it then?

On Sunday is the real announcement. They plan to hit 20 per cent enrichment. This is when Israel and US will be really annoyed. Going from 20 per cent to 90 per cent (weapongrade) only takes a few months, if they do a crash fast program. Of course if you believe the US and Israel they are planning on building a nuclear weapon.

Obama made the deal to prevent a strike. It well known now Israel was planning a strike on Iran and was what lead Obama to sign the deal. Israel reckless bombing would have dragged the United States into a new war.

Gatling · 02-07-2019 3:54pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Wow. How biased are those headlines.

But you claimed it wasn't reported at all .

So claiming biased reporting offers even less credibility

Scores of civilians killed according to who ?

4 according to Syrian news

Gringo180 · 02-07-2019 4:11pm

Gatling wrote: »

But you claimed it wasn't reported at all .

So claiming biased reporting offers even less credibility

Scores of civilians killed according to who ?

4 according to Syrian news

Haaretz just to name a few. I googled Isráeli attack on Syria and nothing came up in the search referencing yesterdays attack. What did you type into google to bring up those links?

Its like reporting on missiles attacking Isráel from Gaza and the main headline being "Iron Dome rockets fired from Tel Aviv hit Lebanese mountain" :pac:

Its there to mislead people.

notobtuse · 02-07-2019 4:14pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

On Sunday is the real announcement. They plan to hit 20 per cent enrichment. This is when Israel and US will be really annoyed. Going from 20 per cent to 90 per cent (weapongrade) only takes a few months, if they do a crash fast program. Of course if you believe the US and Israel they are planning on building a nuclear weapon.

Obama made the deal to prevent a strike. It well known now Israel was planning a strike on Iran and was what lead Obama to sign the deal. Israel reckless bombing would have dragged the United States into a new war.

Obama made that terrible deal with Iran because.... Israel? Where do you come up with this stuff?

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 4:44pm

notobtuse wrote: »

Obama made that terrible deal with Iran because.... Israel? Where do you come up with this stuff?

Yes Obama disliked Netanyahu and he signed the Iranian deal with other European powers, China and Russia to stop Israel from starting a war. If Obama listened to Israel there would be no deal in 2015.

Was not a terrible deal. All enrichment was watched closely by IAEA. They hated the deal because it allowed the Iranians to keep building missiles for defence. Israel wants Iran to be defenceless and be weak miitarily. Iran was not going allow inspections of their military sites. Israel is seeking to destroy the regime, the nuclear threat just part of the game.

notobtuse · 02-07-2019 4:49pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Yes Obama disliked Netanyahu and he signed the Iranian deal with other European powers, China and Russia to stop Israel from starting a war. If Obama listened to Israel there would be no deal in 2015.

Was not a terrible deal. All enrichment was watched closely by IAEA. They hated the deal because it allowed the Iranians to keep building missiles for defence. Israel wants Iran to be defenceless and be weak miitarily. Iran was not going allow inspections of their military sites. Israel is seeking to destroy the regime, the nuclear threat just part of the game.

So it's an opinion on your part. I'm okay with opinions.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 4:52pm

notobtuse wrote: »

So it's an opinion on your part. I'm okay with opinions.

It not just an opinion. Israel has always stated the deal did not go far enough, and they wanted military site inspections and Iran ballistic program to end. There not a shrewd of evidence Iran enchriched Uranium in secret. Be next to impossible with inspectors watching the sites full time.

notobtuse · 02-07-2019 4:58pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It not just an opinion. Israel has always stated the deal did not go far enough, and they wanted military site inspections and Iran ballistic program to end. There not a shrewd of evidence Iran enchriched Uranium in secret. Be next to impossible with inspectors watching the sites full time.

Then can you show me a source to back up your claim? Also, Iran does not allow the IAEA to inspect military bases where enriched uranium might be stored or any clandestine enrichment plants. The IAEA can only report on what Iran allows them to report on.

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 5:06pm

notobtuse wrote: »

Then can you show me a source to back up your claim? Also, Iran does not allow the IAEA to inspect military bases where enriched uranium might be stored or any clandestine enrichment plants. The IAEA can only report on what Iran allows them to report on.

Iran had to announce all nuclear sites under the deal. Can you point me to where this secret enrichment facility is in Iran? I fairly certain their be gases and heat signatores detected if Iran was secretly building a weapon. They never tested a bomb either. It all just speculation.

Israel made a big deal of that raid in Iran, and what they show a nuclear program yes, but it all contained documents are from the 90s. There was not a single secret document from 2000 and beyond. I not buying Iran building a bomb till someone shows proof.

Iran does have to open up its miltary sites for inspection, a soverign country has every right to protect itself.

notobtuse · 02-07-2019 5:12pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Iran had to announce all nuclear sites under the deal. Can you point me to where this secret enrichment facility is in Iran? I fairly certain their be gases and heat signatores detected if Iran was secretly building a weapon. They never tested a bomb either. It all just speculation.

Israel made a big deal of that raid in Iran, and what they show a nuclear program yes, but it all contained documents are from the 90s. There was not a single secret document from 2000 and beyond. I not buying Iran building a bomb till someone shows proof.

Iran does have to open up its miltary sites for inspection, a soverign country has every right to protect itself.

Here's a report on one... You don't need much to turn low grade uranium into bomb capable material.

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/the-fordow-enrichment-plant-aka-al-ghadir

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-07-2019 5:21pm

notobtuse wrote: »

Here's a report on one... You don't need much to turn low grade uranium into bomb capable material.

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/the-fordow-enrichment-plant-aka-al-ghadir

A site that IAEA is aware of and reported nothing. If was doing nefarious things in the past is irrelevent.

Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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