The Late Late Show wrote: » I believe Trump has almost 0% control of America now. Bolton, Pompeo and forces from foreign anti-Iran entities literally call the shots. This crowd are capable of anything and they want one thing regarding Iran: a colony. Sadly, this nuclear option is in their heads and I can see the evil logic. 1st of all, threaten Iran with a nuclear attack unless Ali Khamenei obeys certain demands that make Iran a colony of the evil in control of America now. Khamenei calls their bluff. The regime in control of America order 2 nuclear bombings of 2 relatively unimportant Iranian cities (and there is massive loss of life) and threaten 'Tehran is next'. An offer is made: Khamenei can stay on as Shah and Hassan Rouhani as president but they have to install a new government and give the guys in control of America most of Iran's assets. Social and political reforms are also demanded of Khamenei to make things look 'good' in the eyes of the world. Khamenei of course capitulates and Iran becomes 'an important strategic partner of the US'. This is EXACTLY what was done somewhere else further East of Iran in the 1940s.
Odhinn wrote: » A colony? No. That's being a bit silly tbh.
Gatling wrote: » ,I'd imagine they have watched too much game of thrones
The Late Late Show wrote: » Not a colony in the traditional sense but these neo-Republican slimeballs are tied in with the Saudis and have got 'America' or whatever that place is now addicted to Saudi oil. And that's the main problem for all this drivel.
It is John Bolton and Mike Pompeo working on behalf of Saudi Arabia, Mojahedin e Khalq and Netanyahu that controls it and it is their agenda that is being pushed
notobtuse wrote: » America is now a net exporter of energy. Do try and keep up.
smurfjed wrote: » So how do you think they are controlling Bolton / Pompeo? Money or sex?
Say my name wrote: » Isn't it good of Iran not to be doing any attacks while Trump, Bin Salman and co. are busy in talks at the G20?
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » John Bolton is an evil son of a bitch. Over 100,000 deaths in Iraq, the creation of ISIS, the Syrian refugee crisis, the inspiration for suicide attacks right across Europe, the mess in Afghanistan. All the above was based on lies. There were no WMD's. There's simply no credibility with them. Any American I've met has been very nice and friendly. But they end up with a government that has elements there that have very dark and dangerous motivations. Bolton still has a voice in power. I mean he actually defends the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They were and are complete clusterfuks. Wars are messy and unpredictable. It doesn't follow the logic of - Saddam Hussein is a bad man, let's take him out, now everything is okay and fine. No, they ruined that country for generations. All the dead people there couldn't give a crap who is in power now. It's like with North Korea. They deserve to be liberated from a tyrant for sure. But nobody knows how things will play out if it's done. Japan could get nukes, you could have millions of refugees flooding over the border in South Korea and China, you have hundreds of thousands of North Korean loyalists prepared for suicide bombings in South Korea. And on and on.
The Late Late Show wrote: » Bolton is the major reason for all this evil and there was no need whatsoever for Trump to have included him into his government. By doing so, Trump sold out his country to the very thing Americans voted against. Unless Trump can get rid of the Bolton and Pompeo regime, his chances of re-election are slim.
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » That's the thing with Bolton and Pompeo. They are actually not patriotic or loyal to the American people. They are hurting them financially with the cost of these wars, troops are dying because of them, they are creating more enemies of the people, and any 'soft' power that the US has is being eroded. They are basically anti American while pretending to be patriotic. The balls on him to say with a straight face how Iraq and Afghanistan went great is unbelievable. Trump doesn't have a hope of getting reelected with those scumbags in charge. What motivates these people?
Say my name wrote: » Europe has brought in a trading system to circumvent the US sanctions on Iran. The price of oil dropped on the announcement of this.https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-28/trump-unleash-hell-europe-after-eu-says-spv-circumvent-swift-and-iran-sanctions-now
Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: » John Bolton is an evil son of a bitch. Over 100,000 deaths in Iraq, the creation of ISIS, the Syrian refugee crisis, the inspiration for suicide attacks right across Europe, the mess in Afghanistan. All the above was based on lies. There were no WMD's. There's simply no credibility with them. Bolton still has a voice in power. I mean he actually defends the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They were and are complete clusterfuks.It's like with North Korea. They deserve to be liberated from a tyrant for sure.
"Suicide bombings came about through Hafez al-Assad making an alliance with Ayatollah Khomeini who developed the 'new idea' of how to fight his enemies, and defend the revolution. He told his followers that they could destroy themselves in order to save the revolution. providing that in the process they killed as many enemies around them as possible. It was a weird perversion of Shia Islam, that was harboured in Syria by Hafez al-Assad. 90% of fighters in Iraq were foreign."Hypernormalization- Adam Curtis
Gatling wrote: » Wonder if Israel might decide to go it alone and hit Iranian facilities , The repeated strikes on Syria might be practice runs
notobtuse wrote: » That possibility is more alarming than what Trump tweets. Is it really worth the long-term consequences of buying into what Instex does in the short-term? I don’t think Israel can take a 10% chance of 100% annihilation from a country that continues to advocate for them being wiped off the map and has been working on developing ‘the bomb.’ Iran is fortifying the defenses of their nuclear sites, and they may soon be nearly impossible to destroy. If an attack by Israel happens on their enrichment facilities (know and unknown to the IAEA) it will probably be in the next couple of months. Will running an end-around US sanctions be worth it then?
Gringo180 wrote: » Iran has never called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Why does this falsehood keep getting repeated? I presume your referencing Ahmadinejads comments?
notobtuse wrote: » Yes, and the like comments ever since. That far-right institution called The New York Times claims they did.https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html
Gringo180 wrote: » Not once was "Israel", "wipe" and "map" mentioned by Ahmadinejad in this speech. Have you read the full transcript?
notobtuse wrote: » I read the reporting. Are you saying The New York Times, and most of the other well-respected media outlets, provides us with fake news?
GooglePlus wrote: » Don't be fooled into thinking everything you read from these media outlets are true. Propaganda isn't always as clear as day and it probably won't be in our lifetime that we realise what's been true and what hasn't. I think it's safe to say that America and anyone supporting them are on the wrong side of history. But we still need to suck on the nipple to sustain this western lifestyle, so keep the head down and say nothing.
