Off Topic Thread 5.0

molloyjh wrote: »

The problem is that we simply dont have the resources to enforce this stuff the way it needs to be enforced. We just dont police that way. Our Gardai & laws are, by design, a lot more passive and collegial (not the right word, but you get the point) than strict and combative. The aim was always to work with the public rather than strictly police them.

Now there's def an argument for that approach being outdated, but that doesn't change where we are now. Which is simply not in a place to do a whole lot else.

That said, people shouldn't need to be forced to do the right thing. If they need that then the problem certainly doesn't lie with the police or the Gov. Some personal responsibility would go a hell of a long way. Without that, there's really only so much that can be done.

Policing in Ireland and the UK is normally by consent rather than by military type actions. The populations as a rule are reasonable and do the right thing when asked. Booze and stupidity vie with cretinous arrogance in a few to ruin it for the many.

Thanks to Boris Johnson, there is now more than enough room in Britain to house any asylum seekers, experts have today confirmed.

Responding to the ongoing far-right claim that Britain is ‘overcrowded’ and cannot take on another single dinghy of up to a dozen desperate asylum seekers, Home Secretary Priti Useless yesterday appointed a ‘Clandestine Channel Threat Commander’, which sounds like the kind of title Mark 'The Poison Dwarf @blunderwank.****wit' Francois would bestow upon himself to make himself feel important during a day trip to Dover.

“We’re not overcrowded, though, not even remotely,” laughed statistician and rational human Simon Williams. “Even before the pandemic, we had plenty of space for people seeking refuge. Only around six per cent of Great Britain is built on – we’re hardly down town Manhattan.” He explained, “What a lot of people don’t realise is that people leave the country as well as come into it. All the European doctors and nurses who went back to their country of birth as they felt unwelcome following the Brexit vote, for a start. And Tommy Robinson, or whatever his name is, is heading to Spain soon, so that’ll free up a bit of space as well. And Boris himself has created loads of room for these asylum seekers to stay, by causing around thirty thousand excess deaths in care homes from his abysmal handling of the pandemic. So those rooms are going begging, too.”

Asked for comment, Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage responded, “But they are not asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants. How can I tell? Asylum seekers are always white, like my great-great-grandparents were when they came to Britain from Germany penniless and hoping for a better life. These ones we see in dinghies aren’t.”

In a bid to tackle the unstoppable flow of immigrants on tiny inflatable dinghies into the country, Britain First have taken matters into their own hands by taking to the high seas themselves.

The so-called ‘invasion’ of migrants has been documented daily by Nigel Farage, who in the absence of having any friends has taken it upon himself to film dinghies sometimes carrying up to four or five terrified asylum seekers landing on England’s beaches.

“We are being invaded, so we wanted to do something about it to let these illegals know they’re not welcome here,” explained Britain First member, football hooligan and captain of the vessel, Bigsteve7369922. “We officially named and launched the vessel ‘HMS Diffendor Of Are Cuntry’ yesterday morning by smashing a can of lager across the bow, and when we’re not patrolling the channel you’ll find us patriotically moored up as near as we can get to the Wetherspoons in Ramsgate.”

He continued, “I’ve got a tough crew of hardened sailors who are going to scare these illegals into retreating.
Barry, my second in command has even brought his own BB gun. And we’ve got a flag that reads “Your not welcum hear until you can speek Inglish!1!”, which I think sends a clear message to anyone trying to get to our shores.

Biden names Kamala Harris as his VP pick. That will certainly rub some people the wrong way. Personally, I look forward to her debating Pence with glee.

stephen_n wrote: »

I’m never sure if it’s that Bojo the clown just doesn’t get it. Or he doesn’t really care that what he’s saying, is obviously contradictory codswallop. Or possibly if I repeat a lie enough times people will believe it’s true.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/boris-johnson-over-my-dead-body-will-there-be-a-border-in-the-irish-sea-39449475.html

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Well, we've seen that that's true in the UK and the US over the last few years.

It's worked for him so far, he's PM.

Why would he change?

With regard to the bridge issue, I lived in Whitehead up to 2017. From the first and second floor of my house we could see car headlights on Scotland at night and during the day we could see the turning blades of a massive wind farm in Dumfriesshire. It really is that close. In fact in Victorian times a tunnel was begun from there but like the original Channel one it was soon abandoned. The first telegraph cable between Britain and Ireland came ashore in Whitehead.



It was very frustrating living in N.I. and being wildly ripped off on the Larne - Cairnryan ferry. I booked a holiday back in Donegal this year and the ferry for two and a car was £360 return. (I postponed it to next year) It's a 2 hour trip. The ferry from Copenhagen to Oslo is cheaper and it's a 17 hour trip...and you get a cabin.



Modern bridge technology has come a long way and I would love it to be built. Living now in the Highlands, it seems like a good idea. When you consider that the UK pretend government is going to spend £130,000,000,000 to 'upgrade' a railway line in order to get to Birmingham from London 20 minutes quicker spending, 20 billion to connect 6 million people with 66 million seems a no brainer. I realise that Boris Blunderwank is a serial liar and simply spouts populist crap to play to his audience, he burbles out what he thinks people want to hear with not one iota of care for truth. Blobby is only concerned with the future of Blobby.


There are massive barriers to building a bridge, not least where it might come ashore in Scotland. Portpatrick is o.k.ish but Campbeltown is miles from anywhere unless you want to travel Northwards. In decades gone by Britain would have been capable of surmounting these challenges. Not with this coterie of petulant muppets who are only interested in lining the pockets of their donors and themselves.

Every week we think the Tories cannot sink any lower. Yet somehow every week they prove us wrong. Gavin Williamson, Grant Shapps, Priti Patel, Chris Grayling, Matt Hancock, Boris Johnson, Dominic Cummings... the crème de la crème of politics, the envy of a world in awe of their never-ending master classes. What does it say about the people who voted them into power?..........Conned by f&ckwits.This country is an absolute clusterf&ck being steered onto thoroughly avoidable rocks by fools.


It's quite something when the government tries to distract attention from its failures by producing a steady stream of new failures.World Beating, in fact. I have listened to many of the A Level students whose lives this government of entitled empty vessels set out to ruin, I am yet to hear any that is not already more intelligent than these **** of empty vessels called a government. ut then I've scraped more intelligent stuff from the soles of my shoes. Thousands of kids screwed over, thousands of parents angry about it. Repeat with different numbers of folk for every screw up and there soon won't be anyone that they've not angered.



It is truly astounding the talentless turds of the individuals in this government. In a normal parliament, Williamson would be runaway leader in incompetence - how damning is it that he might not even be the worst member of the cabinet?


I'm still equally astounded, 24 hours later, that there was no one in the department of education who could look at that table showing private schools getting a 4.7% boost on last year and say this algorithm is f&cked, and so are we if we let this go public.I thought we had reached a nadir with Chris Grayling, but I now realise that he was just the first wave of Tory ministers, whose only qualification for the high offices they hold is that they are totally incompetent, they shirk any responsibility and they know no shame or sense of responsibility. they are all Brexiters as well.They don't care,


It just so happens that their chums, anyone important in the press (editors and above) and themselves send their children to private school.
Frankly, they're a bunch of intellectually diseased w@nkers.


Gavin 'Thick as pig****' Williamson is now Boris Johnson’s education secretary – because really, why not?' Lets never forget, Gavin is education secretary because of one essential qualification to be in this government - he is a Brexiter.


Why education? Why not - he would be equally useless in any other department and any other of the shower of talentless fanatics or spineless mediocrities would be equally useless in education.





I've previously observed that anyone that wants to deny the existence of white male privilege must first explain the career of Chris Grayling. Anyone that wants to deny the existence of white male privilege must first ALSO explain the career of Gavin Williamson. Let us not forget that Johnson selected each and every one of his ministers. The sole criterion he had for selecting ministers was that they were loyal to Johnson and that they were Brexiters.It's a cabinet of Brexit dimwits. It was designed to be. Can't have anyone looking better than the blustering dimwit PM.





Williamson should resign but they don't do that any longer. They watched Trump's shamelessness, tore up what was left of the 'gentleman's agreement' in our politics, rubbed their hands with glee and are now distributing our money to their mates and themselves by the billion.




Hardly surprising then, that their solution to this education crisis is 'downgrade the oiks, give all the chaps and chapesses top marks'.
They know we can't do anything about their dismantling of our country, short of people arriving en masse at Downing Street and evicting that cretinous scarecrow directly. But in what has become the forelock-tugging capital of the world? Hardly likely.


I fear this line of thought will only continue with this cabinet.
This A levels debacle is down to the negative Brexit selection as much as any other government failures of which there have been multitude in this pandemic.A government of none of the talents? And anyway, it's only the little people who are worst affected. The upside is that it's left the first choice university doors wide open for the elites and privileged from private schools. I'd say that Johnson, Shapps and Williamson will count that as a win win.
In his previous role as Secretary of state for Defence he was bad, he seems to have upped his game at education to be even more incompetent at education then he was at Defence.

Bazzo wrote: »

The numbers here seem to be kept very hush (surprise surprise). I get the Irish numbers daily by either catching them on the radio for the previous day or scrolling through twitter but haven't seen any UK numbers in ages despite also listening to BBC 2 and following a few British news sites on twitter.

In the last 4 weeks about 2,000 Covid deaths have been recorded. But it's o.k. as it's not affecting anyone the Tories give a flying Gove about. No point in telling the dullards who vote for them that they are being skewered by an arrogant, inept and criminal bunch of serial liars.

The UK government have now changed the way they count deaths and no longer make the figures available to the public.

"Daily reported COVID deaths are now measured across the UK as deaths that occurred within 28 days of the first laboratory-confirmed positive COVID test. Data using the old and new measures can be downloaded here. (It can't)

The deaths page is being re–developed." PHE