Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

RabbleRouser2k · 02-12-2020 6:18pm

iseegirls wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2020/1202/1181778-rte-unwraps-christmas-2020-tv-and-radio-crackers/
Main link to the Xmas press release.

Some stellar standouts here amongst others:
Jennifer Zamparelli and Nicky Byrne get their sparkle back on to remember more footloose and fancy-free times as they look back over some magical moments in a one-hour Dancing with the Stars special.

At 6pm on 2FM The National Chart Show with Bláthnaid Treacy will announce this year's Christmas No.1 as well as replaying all the Number 1's from the year 2020.

Every year, it feels like this when looking at RTE's schedule.

They brought back the Den... because of course they did... because RTe is trading on Nostalgia rather than actually producing anything new.

The nostalgia train sailed many years ago... RTe are just 20 years behind right now.

02-12-2020 6:25pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Pats Late Late was still 100 times better than Tubridy's Late Late.
For all the stick Pat got, he was/is an excellent broadcaster, and he could actually interview a guest.

Tubridy just comes across as a weasel of a man, with absolutely zero charisma, and zero likability with no doubt a huge team of researchers at his disposal to do his donkey work for him.
Pat always knew/knows his subject matter inside out.

Agree completely with only one notable exception. That Jerry Seinfield interview.

satguy · 02-12-2020 6:31pm

They will air Mrs Browns Boys Christmas special 2020,, after we have all seen it on BBC1 ..

oh.. and Dolly Parton (age 74 years), is going to sing a song via Zoom.

All ads on the iPlayer will be in HD and non skippable, and won't play if you use an adblocker. That's if it works at all.

RabbleRouser2k · 02-12-2020 6:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Agree completely with only one notable exception. That Jerry Seinfield interview.

Tubridy had a kid do a Covid test on a toy. No offence meant, but folks lost friends and family to Covid... that seems highly insensitive, imo.

02-12-2020 6:44pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Tubridy had a kid do a Covid test on a toy. No offence meant, but folks lost friends and family to Covid... that seems highly insensitive, imo.

Oh I know. I can't stand Tubridy and thought Pat was always more genuine than got credit for. In that particular interview I suspect Jerry was tacked on at the last minute and Pat didn't get properly briefed on it or given any background as to who he was.

02-12-2020 6:46pm

satguy wrote: »

They will air Mrs Browns Boys Christmas special 2020,, after we have all seen it on BBC1 ..

oh.. and Dolly Parton (age 74 years), is going to sing a song via Zoom.

All ads on the iPlayer will be in HD and non skippable, and won't play if you use an adblocker. That's if it works at all.

Tried to watch something on the iPlayer last night, just refused to work with no error, just "computer says nothing".

satguy · 02-12-2020 7:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tried to watch something on the iPlayer last night, just refused to work with no error, just "computer says nothing".

Same here..

Last few times I used it, the ads worked, then it crashed,, I gave up after a few more tries..

The IT team at RTE seemed to have gotten their jobs through nepotism, and not through qualifications.

They should all be sacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-uaJ2Hb3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSKonY3Fr0

Boggles · 02-12-2020 8:09pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Tubridy had a kid do a Covid test on a toy. No offence meant, but folks lost friends and family to Covid... that seems highly insensitive, imo.

No he didn't.

Also I thought you didn't watch it?

Boggles · 02-12-2020 8:13pm

satguy wrote: »

Same here..

Last few times I used it, the ads worked, then it crashed,, I gave up after a few more tries..

The IT team at RTE seemed to have gotten their jobs through nepotism, and not through qualifications.

They should all be sacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-uaJ2Hb3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSKonY3Fr0

The player is outsourced to a private company AFAIK.

02-12-2020 8:53pm

Boggles wrote: »

The player is outsourced to a private company AFAIK.

Is the company's name AFAIK? As in

All
F*cked Up
And
Insufferably
Knackered

?

02-12-2020 8:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is the company's name AFAIK? As in

All
F*cked Up
And
Insufferably
Knackered

?

No, that was the design document.

02-12-2020 9:02pm

The limited android player for android TV sticks appears to work well not that I watch RTE.
https://www.joujoujou.com/images/rte.apk

ebbsy · 02-12-2020 9:15pm

Why have those presenters not resigned yet ?

Elmo · 02-12-2020 10:46pm

fritzelly wrote: »

45k seems like a pittance

The maximum budget per episode is €45,000, RTÉ said in its commissioning brief, while the preferred production model is one where a number of episodes can be recorded a day – an industry norm – to maximise cost efficiency. Original formats “as well as established ones” are welcomed.

RTÉ are dressing up daytime quiz/game show as prime time.

a pre-watershed slot for 12 weeks with a 40-minute running time

540,000 for the show, 3 days production, most of that is going on the set and presenter. On a show that will only get one season, so the reusable set become an unnecessary cost. And because you need a new set it will need to be built and its economy (if good) only pays off after season 3.

It won't get past season one because the audience see through this, and RTÉ then blame the audiences high standards for never making a game/quiz show again.

Anyone remember the last Game/Quiz show from RTÉ, and how many episodes were produced, for bonus point the presenter and for extra bonus points how many times its been repeated.

No not Winning Streak.

sligojoek · 02-12-2020 10:56pm

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ are dressing up daytime quiz/game show as prime time.

540,000 for the show, 3 days production, most of that is going on the set and presenter. On a show that will only get one season, so the reusable set become an unnecessary cost. And because you need a new set it will need to be built and its economy (if good) only pays off after season 3.

It won't get past season one because the audience see through this, and RTÉ then blame the audiences high standards for never making a game/quiz show again.

Anyone remember the last Game/Quiz show from RTÉ, and how many episodes were produced, for bonus point the presenter and for extra bonus points how many times its been repeated.

No not Winning Streak.

Anne Doyle 1Ep never repeated.

Elmo · 02-12-2020 10:57pm

sligojoek wrote: »

Anne Doyle 1Ep never repeated.

The name of the show?
Anne Doyle - Correct
1 Episode - Correct
Odd as it seems its been repeat but how many times?

sligojoek · 02-12-2020 11:00pm

No idea of the name. I never heard of it being repeated. Maybe it was on Plus1 an hour later.

Elmo · 02-12-2020 11:04pm

sligojoek wrote: »

No idea of the name. I never heard of it being repeated. Maybe it was on Plus1 an hour later.

Bonus round what year?

I think but I could be wrong it was repeated twice, it was definitely repeated one Sunday afternoon, but I think it was repeated a second time after that. I am not counting +1.

Elmo · 02-12-2020 11:07pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnV9nYuHkfE

DrSerious3 · 02-12-2020 11:23pm

sligojoek wrote: »

No idea of the name. I never heard of it being repeated. Maybe it was on Plus1 an hour later.

The worst thing about that programme was that about 3/4s of the contestants didnt get to answer any question at all.

jmcc · 03-12-2020 2:50am

Does RTE Player still use Flash?

Regards...jmcc

fritzelly · 03-12-2020 4:05am

jmcc wrote: »

Does RTE Player still use Flash?

Regards...jmcc

It's worse than that - it uses some proprietary software that no one know how it works, in fact its quite a bit of insidious software, even when you detach the tab it pauses the ads in case you may not be watching them. Then when you pause live stream it says hell to that we're gonna jump to the live part so you have to come back tomorrow to watch the whole thing again with adds (and when we say watch again we mean just watch ads in the vain hope the program actually loads and don't think about fast forwarding it because we're gonna force you to watch ads again and again and again)

Biafranlivemat · 03-12-2020 6:47am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Pats Late Late was still 100 times better than Tubridy's Late Late.
For all the stick Pat got, he was/is an excellent broadcaster, and he could actually interview a guest.

Tubridy just comes across as a weasel of a man, with absolutely zero charisma, and zero likability with no doubt a huge team of researchers at his disposal to do his donkey work for him.

Pat always knew/knows his subject matter inside out.

Pat started out, on Today Tonight interviewing TD's using facts and figures.

Tubridy couldn't interview a Councillor from anywhere in Ireland.

The J Stands for Jay · 03-12-2020 9:13am

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Pat started out, on Today Tonight interviewing TD's using facts and figures.

Tubridy couldn't interview a Councillor from anywhere in Ireland.

Unless they had a book to sell, or had a serious illness

Brock Turnpike · 03-12-2020 9:21am

Elmo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnV9nYuHkfE

Wow. That was bad. Really bad

03-12-2020 11:04am

Elmo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnV9nYuHkfE

Got all the questions right. It's definitely not Mastermind, thats for sure.

The format is/was too complicated, and while I like Ann Doyle as a no nonsense news presenter, she has no charm in that, though I suppose it's hard to show charisma when the contestants are in another room.

Elmo · 03-12-2020 1:15pm

McGaggs wrote: »

Unless they had a book to sell, or had a serious illness

Even better if the councilor died tragically following a long illness and the interview is with their partner... Even better if they are gay .... Better still if transgender ... Better still if they had lost a child ... Better still if they adopted twins from Belarus... Better still if their house burned down ... Better still if they'd been in a car crash ... Better still if their story was first told on liveline ... Better still if they are looking for an apology from SF ... Better still if it can have the audience in tears ....

RabbleRouser2k · 03-12-2020 2:15pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Wow. That was bad. Really bad

You havent' seen Superstar Dogs.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/ray-darcy-make-debut-rte-4880572

Can't even find a clip of it. Was it bad? Yes. Was it produced around the same time as Ann Doyle's s**tfest? Yes it was.

Was it repeated just as often? Yep.

Was it far more cringeworthy, to the point of causing physical pain?

Yes...yes it was...

Kivaro · 04-12-2020 9:35am

Wonder what the definition of gender equality is at RTE?
On Morning Ireland this morning, we had a woman introducing the news, a woman reading the news, a woman reading the weather report, and straight after that, a woman doing the segment on 'What it says in the papers'. In fairness, they did have George Lee on during the news telling us that we will have 1,200 daily Covid cases in early January, but I'm not sure if George counts.

Come to think of it, why do they need 4 people to do those jobs, why can't the one person do it? But anyway, yes, gender equality at RTE, as long as the pendulum swings in the one direction.

Elmo · 04-12-2020 10:50am

Kivaro wrote: »

Come to think of it, why do they need 4 people to do those jobs, why can't the one person do it?

So back 2 years RTÉ decided to drop News bulletins from 2FM's night time schedule. They said it was due to the fact that most people tuning to 2FM go for music rather than news and that its core audience gets news from a variety of different sources.

No arguments from many....but hold on...

1. The core audience is possibly moving away from FM broadcasting and possibly broadcasting.
2. 2FM at the time hosts a 1 hour long Magazine Sports programme* now 2 hours long.
3. Jennifer Z has a 2 hour long chat show in the morning, along with a lot of chat at the weekend.
4. and here's the kicker RTÉ Sports Bulletins continue until at least 10pm.

So why can't the Sports News Reader also present the news at night? and why is there a sports news bulletin available due to reasons as outlined>>>> most people tuning to 2FM go for music rather than news and that its core audience gets news from a variety of different sources.

*I was calling it a Sports News Chat Show and was then told it was a Sports Magazine show because it involves different interviews with guests :rolleyes:

And why does the sports news programme need 3 well know presenters?

Saving money? No!

Elmo · 04-12-2020 1:38pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I was wondering why Louise Byrne, who was completely hopeless, managed to swing a gig on Prime Time.

It is more a case of RTÉ unable to replace the guy who went to Six-One with some mega-newspaper man they screen tested ... he'll be on the air in Jan I'd say. I believe it to be a man in the mean time according to Louise

While Miriam (O'Callaghan) and David (McCullagh) took a break in August, myself and reporters Mark Coughlan and Richard Downes stood in as presenters. When David departed to the Six One (we still haven’t forgiven him) the stand-in presenting was extended.

she also says

The usual summer break was, correctly, shelved, and we have been privileged and proud to provide coverage that we hope has been informative and challenging all through the pandemic.

There should not be an August break for News, the show should not have "star" presenters

RabbleRouser2k · 04-12-2020 2:02pm

Elmo wrote: »

It is more a case of RTÉ unable to replace the guy who went to Six-One with some mega-newspaper man they screen tested ... he'll be on the air in Jan I'd say. I believe it to be a man in the mean time according to Louise

she also says

There should be an August break for News, the show should not have "star" presenters

Yeah, I think even RTE knew she had all the warmth and personality of a brick wall.
So swiftly screen-tested someone else.

David was going to the news, so they needed a male presenter.
(This might sound sexist, but it's based on history rather than gender stereotypes.)
For some strange reason, RTE have no luck when it comes to pairing women presenters together on a show. Whether its The Afternoon Show, or that chatshow with Cynthia Ni Murchu and Clare McKeon (don't know the name, only remember seeing clips of it years after it was axed-the two of them argued throughout the clips).
Just no luck at all-they (the women presenters) did not get along.

The only time there seemed to be any genuine success with pairing two women on a show was Keelin Shanley and Catriona Perry on the news. (But according to sources-Keelin could have presented a show with Satan himself, and you'd see no animosity. She was a genuine loss).

Elmo · 05-12-2020 11:27am

Ever search rte -rte.ie ?

The tabloids & online news outlets are pure RTÉ fan boys & girls.

Almost every day you'll read five new articles about the wonders of RTÉ & it's programming (mainly Tubs & TLLS, you'd wonder if RTÉ make any other programmes).

Tub's head must be getting ready explode.

But he's become a propagandist (not that I have too many issues with the covid-19 vaccine) but Tub's offer to get vaccinated or to have holanhan on the TLLS to get it live on TV to show it is safe, leaves me wondering what Tubs thinks is the job of the national broadcaster.

But the TLLS's audience only grew because of the death of a number of well known people & covid prior to these events TLLS was seeing unimpressive audience numbers, but then I can't understand why people watch or listen to Tubs... The only time I've had to see or hear about him is here on boards or when searching rte -rte.ie and that's too much.

Scoondal · 05-12-2020 11:34pm

Why is Ireland going to mandate a "device fee" instead of a TV licence fee ?
I pay for an internet connection. And I pay companies to provide me with stuff to watch. Why should I pay anything else on top of this ?

fritzelly · 05-12-2020 11:39pm

Because RTE don't like anyone in the country not paying them

elperello · 05-12-2020 11:41pm

Scoondal wrote: »

Why is Ireland going to mandate a "device fee" instead of a TV licence fee ?
I pay for an internet connection. And I pay companies to provide me with stuff to watch. Why should I pay anything else on top of this ?

Hopefully they won't.

If they do the row will continue.

Currently if you don't have a TV you don't need a licence.

The J Stands for Jay · 06-12-2020 11:07am

Elmo wrote: »

2. 2FM at the time hosts a 1 hour long Magazine Sports programme* now 2 hours long.

2 hours of sport, during lockdown when there's non-sport to talk about, at the time of day that o would fancy listening to music. Total turnoff, can't understand why they do this.

jetfiremuck · 06-12-2020 9:02pm

Any idea of the pension costs associated with the station...........could be eye watering

Elmo · 07-12-2020 4:42pm

Pensions
RTÉ operates three pension schemes for its
employees: a defined benefit (DB) scheme, a defined
contribution (DC) scheme and a hybrid scheme
(elements of DB and DC).
RTÉ Superannuation Scheme
The RTÉ Superannuation Scheme is a funded,
contributory DB scheme, established under
legislation and sponsored by RTÉ. No new
employees have been admitted to the scheme
since 1989. As at 31 December 2018, RTÉ had 143
employees (2017: 181) who were members of the
scheme.
As at 31 December 2018, the assets of the scheme
had a market value of €998 million (2017: €1,053
million). At 31 December 2018, the liabilities of
the scheme, as valued in accordance with IAS 19
Employee benefits, were €951 million (2017: €1,005
million). As required under IAS 19, the excess or
shortfall of the assets compared to the liabilities of
the scheme is reported as an asset or liability on
RTɒs statement of financial position. Therefore,
as at 31 December 2018, there is a pension asset of
€47 million reported in respect of the scheme (2017:
€48 million). An increase in the discount rate used
to value the liabilities helped mitigate the impact of
investment returns being below those assumed.
In addition, the actuaries to the scheme have
considered the scheme’s position with liabilities
measured under the minimum funding standard
(MFS). As at 31 December 2018, the actuaries
estimated that there was an MFS surplus of
€134 million (2017: €159 million). In addition, the
scheme has also met the funding standard reserve
requirement at 1 January 2019. These are both very
positive results and there is no requirement for a
funding proposal in 2019.

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Any idea of the pension costs associated with the station...........could be eye watering

More detail on here https://www.rte.ie/annualreport/pdfs/RTE_annual_report_2018.pdf

expectationlost · 07-12-2020 4:58pm

RTÉ Health and Safety Review https://about.rte.ie/2020/12/07/rte-health-and-safety-review/

Zero repercussion for the manager
https://twitter.com/lostexpectation/status/1330275292628312065

RabbleRouser2k · 07-12-2020 5:00pm

expectationlost wrote: »

RTÉ Health and Safety Review https://about.rte.ie/2020/12/07/rte-health-and-safety-review/

No fines?

Seems like a tap on the wrist.

Elmo · 07-12-2020 5:09pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

No fines?

Seems like a tap on the wrist.

The poor retiree

All present at the gathering to retake RTɒs COVID-19 induction training;

Spon Farmer · 07-12-2020 11:09pm

I haven’t had time lately to look at the boards.

What was he reaction here like when that news broke about RTÉ current affairs stars broke he Covid rules?

I hope folks were more angry about this than Golfgate - these RTÉ twits should know better especially when they the ones questioning and chastising the politicians,

retalivity · 08-12-2020 12:02am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

No fines?

Seems like a tap on the wrist.

They're hardly going to fine themselves.
"Retake RTEs COVID-19 induction training;" FFS, the world and its mother knows what to do and what not to do with regards to covid, and a lot of the info has been disseminated to the public from these muppets.

Nothing will change at RTE without outside pressure.

NIMAN · 10-12-2020 8:52pm

Lucky they don't work for sky.

I see Kay Burley is off air for 6 months for breaking covid guidelines.

fritzelly · 10-12-2020 9:14pm

More likely to get a pay rise here

Gunmonkey · 10-12-2020 9:25pm

fritzelly wrote: »

More likely to get a pay rise here

Probably.

"Ah de poor babies, they need more money for all de stress they endured from having to be asked questions about their actions by the public/people in government....can yis imagine, some people hounding you and demanding answers/accountability for your actions....some folks have no class and should just let people get on with their lives!"

Kivaro · 10-12-2020 9:42pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Lucky they don't work for sky.

I see Kay Burley is off air for 6 months for breaking covid guidelines.

RTE are not accountable to anybody.
That's the big difference. They know that they can get away with pretty much anything.
They are a disgrace of an organisation with only self-serving interests at the core of their ideology. Ireland would be a much better (and happier) country without RTE.

RabbleRouser2k · 10-12-2020 10:17pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Lucky they don't work for sky.

I see Kay Burley is off air for 6 months for breaking covid guidelines.

Won't lose any pay. Suspended with pay.

elperello · 10-12-2020 10:29pm

Seems she hosted a party in a restaurant for nine plus herself to celebrate her 60th birthday (dining limit is 6 in UK).

Some of the party later went on to her house in breach of number of households mixing regulations.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55257817

Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore