The Joker movie - starring Joaquin Phoenix (MOD: May contain Spoilers)

TomSweeney · 03-04-2019 11:18pm

This could be very good, just saw the trailer.

p to the e · 04-04-2019 10:46am

For those upset by Todd Philips directing I remember a lot of people getting flustered because the guy from "10 things I hate about you" was going to play the joker.

dublinman1990 · 05-04-2019 10:43pm

Two great posters.

auspicious · 08-04-2019 1:01am

The Joker is such a rich character and has more depth than most if not all superhero personae.
But to say personae is inaccurate as Napier actually incarnates the Joker as a result of being repeatedly downtrodden in an ever more increasingly chaotic world.
His consciousness actualizes the Joker which obviously represents the archetype Trickster.
The Trickster rails against social convention and mocks the system, the world order, and through Napier's raging perspective manifests as a real force to be reckoned with. A clown to play games with nothing to lose yet striving to survive - to outwit.
Napier is a weak nobody trying to defend what remains of his personal identity in an ultimate inward struggle which reflects outwards.

Caegan · 08-04-2019 2:49am

Has Napier ever been confirmed as the origin for the Joker, outside Tim Burton's version of the character?

I only ask as anything I've ever read or watched myself the characters origin has been unconfirmed or left open.

That query aside. I love the look and tone of the trailer and cannot wait to see this

RayCun · 08-04-2019 8:50am

auspicious wrote: »

The Joker is such a rich character and has more depth than most if not all superhero personae.

Reminds me of a tweet I saw the other day, along the lines of 'the Joker is the deepest and most complex character in the entire history of picture books for children' :pac:

The White Wolf · 08-04-2019 9:24am

RayCun wrote: »

Reminds me of a tweet I saw the other day, along the lines of 'the Joker is the deepest and most complex character in the entire history of picture books for children' :pac:

Aye, we disparage comic book history when it suits us. Wonder what the angle was of the tweet you are referring to.

yourdeadwright · 08-04-2019 9:33am

This wil annoy some fans but I think Ledgers joker is over rated I will explain why ,

I really enjoyed Ledger performance and Ledgers one is without question the BEST portrail of the Joker to date, but I think its over rated because the others are so bad or so detached to who the joker really is ,

Due to the audience the studio's want comic book movies to appeal to in the movies (kids) I don't think we have seen anyone including Ledger play a joker who is dark or unhinged enough to really get ho the joker is on the big screen ,

I really enjoyed the trailer for this one

RayCun · 08-04-2019 9:37am

The White Wolf wrote: »

Aye, we disparage comic book history when it suits us. Wonder what the angle was of the tweet you are referring to.

That was about it. Yes, the Joker is a hugely complex character... if you haven't read many books for adults.

micks_address · 08-04-2019 9:38am

The trailer does look great for this, should be great but trailers can be damn deceiving.

Keplar240B · 09-05-2019 2:59pm

correction wrote: »

Todd Phillips is such an unlikely, this can't work type director choice that you know it'll end up working brilliantly to everyones surprise.

And Joaquin Phoneix seems the absolute perfect choice for this. The only other actor that comes to mind to play The Joker, and this could still happen in actual Batman movies, is Paul Dano. Always felt he was certain to play The Joker at some point.

He is a classic actor.

Gwynplaine · 09-05-2019 9:43pm

I always thought Christian Slater would be a great Joker.

Dades · 10-05-2019 3:53pm

Gwynplaine wrote: »

I always thought Christian Slater would be a great Joker.

Possibly because at his height Christian Slater was always compared to a young Jack Nicholson.

Slydice · 10-05-2019 8:37pm

I wouldn't mind Christian Slater doing a solo Old-Robin film.

timthumbni · 12-05-2019 12:19pm

God, the trailer for this is so good. That music crescendo near the end is epic. I wouldn’t normally even consider going to the cinema to see a superhero/villain but may well do for this. Phoenix is a very interesting actor and is perfect for playing a damaged character.

Watched you were never really there recently. Tough watch at times but could almost have been a back story for the joker on its own.

Slydice · 28-05-2019 11:57pm

The soundtrack in this film is gonna be intense!

Hildur Guðnadóttir is composing! She worked with Jóhann Jóhannsson on Sicario and her work on the Chernobyl miniseries is currently airing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildur_Guðnadóttir

I just noticed when I went to check who had done the music for Chernobyl. That series is something!

El Duda · 29-05-2019 10:41am

Last nights Chernobyl also featured a little cameo from The Joker :cool:

Slydice · 29-05-2019 11:21pm

El Duda wrote: »

Last nights Chernobyl also featured a little cameo from The Joker :cool:

Oh that took me waaaay too long to figure out

peteeeed · 16-06-2019 8:35pm

https://twitter.com/rottentomatoes/status/1140321007602999296?s=21

Uncharted · 17-06-2019 8:05am

Really cannot wait for this movie.

Phoenix could give Joker that truly,deeply ,depraved and unhinged angle we haven't seen on screen before.

I'm hoping this is dark as possible with no Marvel-esque fluff.

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 8:13am

Uncharted wrote: »

I'm hoping this is dark as possible with no Marvel-esque fluff.

agreed , i hope its a return to nolan's play it straight and in the real world DC universe

yourdeadwright · 17-06-2019 9:49am

Uncharted wrote: »

Really cannot wait for this movie.

Phoenix could give Joker that truly,deeply ,depraved and unhinged angle we haven't seen on screen before.

I'm hoping this is dark as possible with no Marvel-esque fluff.

I think you might be correct,

Everyone raves about Ledger ,who for my money has been the best Joker to date but mainly because no one before that has got near to playing the true Joker form the comic books,

As you said no film has gone that dark with the Joker not even Nolan

branie2 · 17-06-2019 11:09am

On my must see list

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 1:18pm

“It will be Rated R. I’ve been asked this a lot. Just assumed people knew,” Todd Philips on an Instagram post when questioned by a fan.

17-06-2019 1:25pm

Possibly the only super hero related movie that I've looked forward to in a decade

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 2:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Possibly the only super hero related movie that I've looked forward to in a decade

is it a superhero movie ?

Claude Burgundy · 17-06-2019 2:17pm

peteeeed wrote: »

is it a superhero movie ?

No but super hero related i would agree

17-06-2019 2:29pm

peteeeed wrote: »

is it a superhero movie ?

Probably not when compared to the usual stuff being churned out, hence why I'm interested. He is a villain of batman who is a super hero so it broadly falls under that category.

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 2:40pm

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

No but super hero related i would agree

to meet up with Robert Pattinson's batman in the batman reboot reboot ' the batman ' .... i hope

although Macaulay Culkin is rumoured to be in that as the joker

pixelburp · 17-06-2019 3:02pm

I hope not: the whole point of this film was so the DC stories could find some narrative breathing room, and space to create something unique and creative. Wedging it back into the broader universe is a tedious proposition IMO.

Besides: this Joker film feels small and intimate, and there's no way in hell the new Batman will be anything but a big, brash, noisy film. It'd be oil & water.

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 5:21pm

Matt reeves is directing the batman so I have hope

pixelburp · 17-06-2019 5:42pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Matt reeves is directing the batman so I have hope

Fair enough, and it's speculation either way until the first trailer comes out (and even then, knowing how deceptive the tone of those can be ...). But I don't have any faith that a Batman film would be allowed to be anything except a big, noisy blockbuster that's as shallow as a puddle.

TheValeyard · 17-06-2019 5:50pm

peteeeed wrote: »

to meet up with Robert Pattinson's batman in the batman reboot reboot ' the batman ' .... i hope

although Macaulay Culkin is rumoured to be in that as the joker

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Fake, but I could see it working.

peteeeed · 17-06-2019 5:55pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Fake, but I could see it working.

Yep that's creepy

Uncharted · 17-06-2019 5:56pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Fake, but I could see it working.

Not a hope in hell.

Culkin is doomed to be Kevin
Mc Allister for eternity.

McLoughlin · 17-06-2019 6:30pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I hope not: the whole point of this film was so the DC stories could find some narrative breathing room, and space to create something unique and creative. Wedging it back into the broader universe is a tedious proposition IMO.

Besides: this Joker film feels small and intimate, and there's no way in hell the new Batman will be anything but a big, brash, noisy film. It'd be oil & water.

If its a success I could see Warner Bros trying to wedge it into its other films.

peteeeed · 08-07-2019 5:04pm

Todd Philips -
We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/

The White Wolf · 09-07-2019 8:54pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Todd Philips -
We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/

That won't go down to well. They might as well say the Joker name is just for the marketing of the film and nothing more.

stateofflux · 09-07-2019 8:58pm

Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.

android1 · 09-07-2019 9:02pm

stateofflux wrote: »

Trailer looked awful..

There's always one...

RocketRaccoon · 09-07-2019 9:03pm

stateofflux wrote: »

Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.

I haven't seen anyone else say that, how odd.

Uncharted · 09-07-2019 9:07pm

stateofflux wrote: »

Trailer looked awful..also without influence from Alan moore / frank Miller material it won't have the depth required...even Christopher Nolan knew this.

I'm blown away that you have that reaction to that trailer. Wow.

It's tantalisingly epic imo.

johnny_ultimate · 09-07-2019 9:09pm

More importantly, a lot of Frank Miller’s work has the depth and maturity of a 12-year-old boy who’s just learned to swear and is still in the ‘girls have cooties’ stage of emotional development. So that’s not the highest hurdle for this film to clear :pac:

stateofflux · 09-07-2019 9:21pm

Uncharted wrote: »

I'm blown away that you have that reaction to that trailer. Wow.

It's tantalisingly epic imo.

Well its just an opinion..... i hope the movie delivers as i like phoenix and the director. the trailer looked overly try hard & theatrical ..reminded me of that bronson / clockwork orange style of circus ultraviolence which i think is pretentious.

Again its just my opinion

pixelburp · 09-07-2019 9:26pm

Frank Miller, blergh. An edgelord hack whose adolescent storytelling coincided with a renaissance for Batman by way of an overhyped schoolyard mashup of Bats v Supes. Nowhere near the pantheon of top comics writers of the ages, and thankfully as time ticks on his stature has diminished...

09-07-2019 11:33pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Todd Philips -
We didn’t follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about,” the writer-director tells Empire. “We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That’s what was interesting to me. We’re not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It’s about this man.”

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/joaquin-phoenix-joker-follow-comics-exclusive/

Sounds good to me

TheIrishGrover · 10-07-2019 1:39pm

This looks interesting... The only concern I have (Admittedly from the impression given in the trailer only) is the whole usual "Oh, he suffers from depression so therefor he is a weirdo. People with mental-health issues have only one option: To get weirder and go bad"

At least the animated Batman series/movie had the balls to ask of the hero: "Well, he's psychotic but how well adjusted are YOU? dressing up like a bat? C'mon" (WAAAAAAY before Nolan's trilogy).

It does look interesting and anything that can help bury Leto's "joker" is good in my book

JP Liz V1 · 23-07-2019 11:43pm

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/oscars-2020-tiff-awards-contenders-joker-jojo-rabbit-1202160225/

Oscar Buzz

Slydice · 26-08-2019 6:14pm

Don't bring the kids..

Joker Movie Rated R for ‘Disturbing Behavior’ and More
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1094341-joker-movie-rated-r-for-disturbing-behavior-and-more

Warner Bros. Pictures’s highly-anticipated Joker movie has officially been given an R-rating from the MPAA for “strong bloody violence, disturbing behavior, language and brief sexual images.”

Mr Crispy · 26-08-2019 6:24pm

New trailer on Wednesday apparently.

The Joker movie - starring Joaquin Phoenix (MOD: May contain Spoilers)

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