Irish Rail September Timetable Changes

L1011 · 24-09-2018 10:10am

marieholmfan wrote: »

Is this discussion just for complaints? No congratulations or thanks for a well run service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no well run service to begin with.

Platform announcement blamed a tech issue, driver blamed low rail adhesion for that delay. Three has been significant leaf fall but it wasn't even close to the first train of the day

ixoy · 24-09-2018 10:16am

marieholmfan wrote: »

No congratulations or thanks for a well run service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What well run service? People at my stop still unable to board multiple trains due to overcrowding. Not an issue prior to the new timetable so they've messed this up. Not a huge surprise if people aren't thankful when they have made it worse for many.

JayRoc · 24-09-2018 10:29am

marieholmfan wrote: »

I never see a message from you about the dozens of journeys that start and finish on time!

What a very odd thing to say

marieholmfan · 24-09-2018 12:09pm

JayRoc wrote: »

What a very odd thing to say

I just feel that we are all being too negative.

end of the road · 24-09-2018 2:45pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

Do you work for Virgin trains or something?

what's your point in asking that question? because if you are suggesting he is saying that irish rail is the only operator who has late trains and all other operators are perfect, then you are mistaken.

marieholmfan wrote: »

Yes mistakes happen but

mistakes happen, but no communication as to why the train is late, or that it's even delayed is unacceptible, indefensible and inexcusable.

marieholmfan wrote: »

I never see a message from you about the dozens of journeys that start and finish on time!

so? why would people comment if their train is on time? all though on time in irish rail land is 10 minutes late.

marieholmfan wrote: »

Is this discussion just for complaints? No congratulations or thanks for a well run service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's not surprising given it's not a well run service. some of that isn't the operator's fault, but the lack of communication most certainly is

Mousewar · 24-09-2018 5:21pm

At this stage it's obvious that there is no new timetable. It's just pot luck what time a dart will come. When it was every 15 mins they could make a fist of maintaining the schedule but every time ten minutes is completely beyond them. I'd actually prefer them to go back to what it was, at least I could make some kind of plan around it.

LEIN · 24-09-2018 5:49pm

Mousewar wrote: »

At this stage it's obvious that there is no new timetable. It's just pot luck what time a dart will come. When it was every 15 mins they could make a fist of maintaining the schedule but every time ten minutes is completely beyond them. I'd actually prefer them to go back to what it was, at least I could make some kind of plan around it.

This is it, can't make accurate plans because who knows what time one will arrive.

thomasj · 24-09-2018 7:19pm

https://twitter.com/PaddyFeelo/status/1044285333960093698?s=19

Similar case on the Maynooth line this evening where the next station should have been castleknock but was showing grand canal dock

gimli2112 · 24-09-2018 7:24pm

my going home Dart was cancelled today, I'm not too bothered because I only get it because it consistently runs late.
The Northside dart at Pearse was pretty full which was shocking considering the one I got on going the other way was half full, even after the cancellation

Deviso · 25-09-2018 8:18am

Absolute **** show this morning.

L1011 · 25-09-2018 8:41am

First Sligo service late at Maynooth as usual yet actually comes in to Connolly on time - on the wrong platform! 1 instead of 4, people having to run for connections particularly if they'd placed themselves for the right door and are now multiple cars down P1

thomasj · 25-09-2018 8:43am

L1011 wrote:

First Sligo service late at Maynooth as usual yet actually comes in to Connolly on time - on the wrong platform!

Beyond a joke at this stage , the Maynooth train to Bray should be AHEAD of this.

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 8:45am

thomasj wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PaddyFeelo/status/1044285333960093698?s=19

Similar case on the Maynooth line this evening where the next station should have been castleknock but was showing grand canal dock

At least its the same city

. I've had charleville, clontarf Road, thomastown, mueir Beag amongst others

.

L1011 · 25-09-2018 8:48am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

At least its the same city . I've had charleville, clontarf Road, thomastown, mueir Beag amongst others .

I had a quantum 29000 that was on the Midleton, Waterford and Rosslare lines all at once according to the next station signs and announcements while actually heading to Maynooth.

Station was different in Irish and English at that

thomasj · 25-09-2018 8:52am

Hilly Bill wrote:

At least its the same city . I've had charleville, clontarf Road, thomastown, mueir Beag amongst others .

Haha

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 8:53am

L1011 wrote: »

I had a quantum 29000 that was on the Midleton, Waterford and Rosslare lines all at once according to the next station signs and announcements while actually heading to Maynooth.

Station was different in Irish and English at that

Possibly the same set. I didn't want to get off as i wanted to see where else i was supposed to be.

thomasj · 25-09-2018 8:53am

L1011 wrote:

I had a quantum 29000 that was on the Midleton, Waterford and Rosslare lines all at once according to the next station signs and announcements while actually heading to Maynooth.

I had manulla junction at one stage! Train was heading to longford

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 8:55am

thomasj wrote: »

Cancellations tonight as per Irish rail Twitter:

17:30hrs Malahide Bray
19:25hrs Bray Howth
20:45hrs Howth Bray
22:10hrs Bray Howth

No driver.

Decuc500 · 25-09-2018 9:17am

gimli2112 wrote: »

my going home Dart was cancelled today, I'm not too bothered because I only get it because it consistently runs late.
The Northside dart at Pearse was pretty full which was shocking considering the one I got on going the other way was half full, even after the cancellation

I think it's quite obvious that the 10 minute Southside service could easily give up a few rush hour carriages to give to the 20 minute Northside service but Irish Rail don't seem to want to do this.

schemingbohemia · 25-09-2018 11:33am

Hilly Bill wrote: »

No driver.

Are there no spare drivers for this eventuality?

Sam Russell · 25-09-2018 11:45am

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Are there no spare drivers for this eventuality?

I think you have the tip of the problem.

Colonel Claptrap · 25-09-2018 12:33pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

I think you have the tip of the problem.

How are the trainee drivers getting on? Have they finished their stint with a mentor or are they still being trained?

How long is this expected to take before they are available to drive solo?

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 12:46pm

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Are there no spare drivers for this eventuality?

Doesn't look like it.

schemingbohemia · 25-09-2018 12:50pm

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Doesn't look like it.

Would there not normally be? Obviously there weren't yesterday but is it not normal that there are spare drivers?

end of the road · 25-09-2018 1:38pm

Decuc500 wrote: »

I think it's quite obvious that the 10 minute Southside service could easily give up a few rush hour carriages to give to the 20 minute Northside service but Irish Rail don't seem to want to do this.

that's because they can't do it, because there are no carriges to give up. the 10 minute service is between bray and howth junction, and then trains serve malahide and howth on a 20 minute frequency. there are no carriges dedicated to the south side only, all go north and south.

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 2:19pm

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Would there not normally be? Obviously there weren't yesterday but is it not normal that there are spare drivers?

Maybe they were already used.

L1011 · 25-09-2018 2:26pm

end of the road wrote: »

that's because they can't do it, because there are no carriges to give up. the 10 minute service is between bray and howth junction, and then trains serve malahide and howth on a 20 minute frequency. there are no carriges dedicated to the south side only, all go north and south.

I think what they mean is that the trains heading south at the start of peak rush hour are longer than required. These obviously become the later northbound services.

There is possibly some adjustment that could be done in having the larger trains heading south even earlier so that they are northbound trains by the time of the rush.

schemingbohemia · 25-09-2018 3:32pm

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Maybe they were already used.

Is this something like the Blue Flu?

Sam Russell · 25-09-2018 3:38pm

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Is this something like the Blue Flu?

I think it is called choo choo flu.

LEIN · 25-09-2018 5:28pm

^^^

Post of the day contender!

strandroad · 25-09-2018 6:09pm

Decuc500 wrote: »

I think it's quite obvious that the 10 minute Southside service could easily give up a few rush hour carriages to give to the 20 minute Northside service but Irish Rail don't seem to want to do this.

People left behind on southside services, both directions. Trains are already shorter and packed early.

Colonel Claptrap · 25-09-2018 6:15pm

Southbound DART left Pearse 1min early.

I wonder was it done on purpose....

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 6:33pm

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Southbound DART left Pearse 1min early.

I wonder was it done on purpose....

No.

thomasj · 25-09-2018 7:23pm

Commuter train operating the 7.10 train to Sligo this evening.

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 7:32pm

thomasj wrote: »

Commuter train operating the 7.10 train to Sligo this evening.

Problem with an earlier set.

thomasj · 25-09-2018 7:33pm

Hilly Bill wrote:

Problem with an earlier set.

Will that affect either Maynooth or northern passengers in the morning ?

tnegun · 25-09-2018 7:36pm

A 29000 all the way to Sligo lovely. Will that set overnight in Sligo and work the first train back tomorrow?

thomasj · 25-09-2018 7:53pm

tnegun wrote:

A 29000 all the way to Sligo lovely. Will that set overnight in Sligo and work the first train back tomorrow?

I'm sure people on the Maynooth or northern line will be saying the same about the little intercity train they'll be getting in the morning in place of the 8 coach 29k they usually get.........

tnegun · 25-09-2018 8:04pm

Thats what I was wondering so it will overnight in Sligo and leave a commuter short tomorrow was it a 4 or 8 car set? It really highlights how stretched IE are stockwise. Do NIR have anything that could be loaned or are they as tight?

end of the road · 25-09-2018 8:30pm

thomasj wrote: »

Commuter train operating the 7.10 train to Sligo this evening.

that will be a barrel of laughs for the users after a hard day.

trellheim · 25-09-2018 8:32pm

Is the whole fleet on the road in the peak , have all the enterprises been brought back or what’s the story

end of the road · 25-09-2018 8:33pm

tnegun wrote: »

Thats what I was wondering so it will overnight in Sligo and leave a commuter short tomorrow was it a 4 or 8 car set? It really highlights how stretched IE are stockwise. Do NIR have anything that could be loaned or are they as tight?

they don't have any spair stock either.

Working class heroes · 25-09-2018 8:35pm

end of the road wrote: »

they don't have any spair stock either.

And you know this how?

Jamie2k9 · 25-09-2018 9:56pm

tnegun wrote: »

Thats what I was wondering so it will overnight in Sligo and leave a commuter short tomorrow was it a 4 or 8 car set? It really highlights how stretched IE are stockwise. Do NIR have anything that could be loaned or are they as tight?

Yes it will overnight and prob a 4 car. I think they are extra tight today after tree and cows getting in the way over the last few days.

they don't have any spair stock either.

They do but its irrelevant to the equation. Surely they will have an extra 2900 around.

Hilly Bill · 25-09-2018 10:12pm

thomasj wrote: »

Will that affect either Maynooth or northern passengers in the morning ?

No idea.

thomasj · 25-09-2018 10:37pm

According to Irish rail upcoming disruption page

Saturday 27th and Sunday 28th October

Northern and Maynooth commuters will operate from Dublin Connolly only.

http://www.irishrail.ie/service-updates/irishrail-engineering-works

ixoy · 25-09-2018 11:29pm

strandroad wrote: »

People left behind on southside services, both directions. Trains are already shorter and packed early.

How often is that happening and can they generally get on the next train? I've seen no mention of it say on Irish Rail's Twitter account where people are, rightly, tearing into Irish Rail but it's all been Northside.

n97 mini · 26-09-2018 10:37am

thomasj wrote: »

According to Irish rail upcoming disruption page

http://www.irishrail.ie/service-updates/irishrail-engineering-works

Same as every other Saturday and Sunday since the new timetable started?

thomasj · 26-09-2018 10:56am

n97 mini wrote:

Same as every other Saturday and Sunday since the new timetable started?

Exactly!

And at the end of the page they apologise for the inconvenience it may cause.

Jamie2k9 · 26-09-2018 11:43am

L1011 wrote: »

First Sligo service late at Maynooth as usual yet actually comes in to Connolly on time - on the wrong platform! 1 instead of 4, people having to run for connections particularly if they'd placed themselves for the right door and are now multiple cars down P1

Happened today as well but arrived 7 minutes early after gettinng a clear run from Drumcondra. There was 3x4 car on platforms 3 and 4.

Irish Rail September Timetable Changes

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