Irish Rail September Timetable Changes

Cookie_Monster

Barna77 wrote: »

EDIT:
Is there any reason why (apart from financial reasons) there are no double decker trains here?

yes, the loading gauge (bridge heights etc) are much smaller in the UK and Ireland than on the continent and the cost of rectifying all tunnels & bridges is too high

Ohmeha

8am howth southbound vanished off the displays, not arrived so looks cancelled without any announcement from Irish rail at our station, Twitter etc, will be carnage on the next dart

Complaint going to be issued on this

derekbro

8:15 from harmonstown cancelled this morning. Going to be fun trying to squeeze into the next one and it's more than 10 mins away.

gimli2112

My Dart southbound was bang on time today so I've gotten into work 75% of the time so far, this week.

LEIN

On twitter now.

Conchir

08:41 from Howth this morning is 4 carriages, good few standing from Bayside. Last carriage will likely be much more full than the others as lots of people don’t seem to be expecting the short trains yet.

ixoy

Some passengers at Killester have now been unable to board two successive trains due to overcrowding. Never seen that before in 8 years.

Infini

derekbro wrote: »

8:15 from harmonstown cancelled this morning. Going to be fun trying to squeeze into the next one and it's more than 10 mins away.

Twitter reports it as a train failure rather than a cancelllation.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Conchir wrote: »

08:41 from Howth this morning is 4 carriages, good few standing from Bayside. Last carriage will likely be much more full than the others as lots of people don’t seem to be expecting the short trains yet.

On that carriage. Utterly packed.

gimli2112

Infini wrote: »

Twitter reports it as a train failure rather than a cancelllation.

Two in two days at rush hour. S'weird.

Franz Von Peppercorn

The 8:41 from howth needs to be rethought for sure.

Conchir

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

The 8:41 from howth needs to be rethought for sure.

Hasn’t really improved at Connolly like I hoped it might.

And yes I usually avoid the last carriages for that very reason, even though it doesn’t suit me being at the front getting off! The third carriage today is packed though, didn’t make much of a difference.

thomasj

The whole timetable needs to be rethought. December might be interesting if it lasts to then.

Skerries

on that 8:41 as well from Howth

Joke Shop!

Barna77

Waiting for the DART, a commuter inbound passed by.
There was plenty of room in it. And this is at rush hour.
I guess the missing people there are packing the DARTs.. or waiting on platforms

marieholmfan

Skerries wrote: »

on that 8:41 as well from Howth

Joke Shop!

so your train arrived. what is the problem. Newsflash guys. At peak time trains are crowded. At peak time trains MUST be crowded. Time to change the seat configuration maybe? Or remove alot of the seats altogether.

Pete_Cavan

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Barna77 wrote: »

EDIT:
Is there any reason why (apart from financial reasons) there are no double decker trains here?

yes, the loading gauge (bridge heights etc) are much smaller in the UK and Ireland than on the continent and the cost of rectifying all tunnels & bridges is too high

If the DU tunnel were to have a wide enough bore to accommodate double decker trains, you would only have to replace five trafficked and one pedestrian bridges on the northern line to have a double decker service between Malahide/Howth and Hazelhatch. Unfortunately the south side line has a lot more restrictions. Raising those bridges on the northem side is much more realistic than adding tracks which often gets brought up.

loyatemu

interesting example of IR's commitment to punctuality last night. Got into Bray on the dart and had to change onto the Wexford train to continue to Greystones.

The Dart gets in on time, & the driver wanders off leaving the Dart at the platform. The following Wexford train is also showing as on time on the app. Eventually, 3 minutes after the Wexford train was due to arrive, the driver finally returns to move the Dart from the platform, presumably with the Wexford service sitting outside the station waiting. Eventually left Bray 8 minutes down.

(extra annoying as the Dart I was on used to continue to Greystones in the old timetable, it's presumably been curtailed to Bray in the new one to allow the Wexford train a clear run, this doesn't work if they just leave the train blocking the platform).

LEIN

marieholmfan wrote: »

so your train arrived. what is the problem. Newsflash guys. At peak time trains are crowded. At peak time trains MUST be crowded. Time to change the seat configuration maybe? Or remove alot of the seats altogether.

While you're on that high horse, why don't you preach your words of wisdom to these people....

https://twitter.com/LibbyHeadon/status/1040145186809098241?s=19

https://twitter.com/LibbyHeadon/status/1040146117143523328?s=19

Infini

LEIN wrote: »

While you're on that high horse, why don't you preach your words of wisdom to these people....

https://twitter.com/LibbyHeadon/status/1040145186809098241?s=19

https://twitter.com/LibbyHeadon/status/1040146117143523328?s=19

In fairness it was warned that a 10m service would spread existing capacity too thin. Would have expected this in the city center stations though not killester. Just goes to show the domino effect that happens when even one train fails and others just aint able to take up the slack.

Sucks to be there for those people but they probably shouldve gotten more rolling stock first.

marieholmfan

Infini wrote: »

In fairness it was warned that a 10m service would spread existing capacity too thin. Would have expected this in the city center stations though not killester. Just goes to show the domino effect that happens when even one train fails and others just aint able to take up the slack.

Sucks to be there for those people but they probably shouldve gotten more rolling stock first.

They have a comparatively short period of an uncomfortable journey. Resources are finite. All we learn from Twitter is that one person is shockingly narcissistic and entitled.

Skerries

marieholmfan wrote: »

so your train arrived. what is the problem. Newsflash guys. At peak time trains are crowded. At peak time trains MUST be crowded. Time to change the seat configuration maybe? Or remove alot of the seats altogether.

because by the time it got to Harmonstown there were people unable to board and as shown above it was even worse at Killester and I could hear people saying that several trains had already passed full as well

ohnonotgmail

marieholmfan wrote: »

They have a comparatively short period of an uncomfortable journey. Resources are finite. All we learn from Twitter is that one person is shockingly narcissistic and entitled.

Expecting to complete a journey you have paid for is being entitled now? you must work in irish rail management.

ixoy

marieholmfan wrote: »

They have a comparatively short period of an uncomfortable journey. Resources are finite. All we learn from Twitter is that one person is shockingly narcissistic and entitled.

Can you not comprehend what's happening? They're having NO journey. They haven't been able to get on a single train for over half an hour. You think it's entitled to be annoyed at having to wait forty minutes to board a train at rush hour?!

marieholmfan

ixoy wrote: »

Can you not comprehend what's happening? They're having NO journey. They haven't been able to get on a single train for over half an hour. You think it's entitled to be annoyed at having to wait forty minutes to board a train at rush hour?!

OK I was wrong and above comments should be disregarded.

Colonel Claptrap

loyatemu wrote: »

interesting example of IR's commitment to punctuality last night. Got into Bray on the dart and had to change onto the Wexford train to continue to Greystones.

The Dart gets in on time, & the driver wanders off leaving the Dart at the platform. The following Wexford train is also showing as on time on the app. Eventually, 3 minutes after the Wexford train was due to arrive, the driver finally returns to move the Dart from the platform, presumably with the Wexford service sitting outside the station waiting. Eventually left Bray 8 minutes down.

(extra annoying as the Dart I was on used to continue to Greystones in the old timetable, it's presumably been curtailed to Bray in the new one to allow the Wexford train a clear run, this doesn't work if they just leave the train blocking the platform).

That smells a bit like work to rule.

Are driver grievances fully ironed out?

LEIN

marieholmfan wrote: »

They have a comparatively short period of an uncomfortable journey. Resources are finite. All we learn from Twitter is that one person is shockingly narcissistic and entitled.

Yes, very much entitled to a decent reliable service. Is that too much to ask?

marieholmfan

LEIN wrote: »

Yes, very much entitled to a decent reliable service. Is that too much to ask?

I agree that the service level provided to that woman today is unacceptable.

devnull

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

loyatemu wrote: »

interesting example of IR's commitment to punctuality last night. Got into Bray on the dart and had to change onto the Wexford train to continue to Greystones.

The Dart gets in on time, & the driver wanders off leaving the Dart at the platform. The following Wexford train is also showing as on time on the app. Eventually, 3 minutes after the Wexford train was due to arrive, the driver finally returns to move the Dart from the platform, presumably with the Wexford service sitting outside the station waiting. Eventually left Bray 8 minutes down.

(extra annoying as the Dart I was on used to continue to Greystones in the old timetable, it's presumably been curtailed to Bray in the new one to allow the Wexford train a clear run, this doesn't work if they just leave the train blocking the platform).

That smells a bit like work to rule.

Are driver grievances fully ironed out?

In a word from an excellent source: no.

loyatemu

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

That smells a bit like work to rule.

Are driver grievances fully ironed out?

that did occur to me.

As others have pointed out, the timetable is now so padded trains are having to wait several minutes at stations to avoid running early. This despite Irish Rails already slack dwell times.