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READ SUMMARY IN POST 986 - Amazon.uk Post-Brexit

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  • #1702
    drogon.
    Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭drogon.


    Caranica wrote: »
    An Post delivered on Friday but won't be delivering again until Tuesday. Amazon's own drivers work 7 days a week and every day except Christmas Day.

    I honestly wish there was a way to stop weekend delivery from Amazon. Once got something delivered at 7:50pm on a Sunday. Feel like this a down hill battle for workers right. (I know they aren’t being forced)


  • #1703
    Caranica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Caranica wrote: »
    An Post delivered on Friday but won't be delivering again until Tuesday. Amazon's own drivers work 7 days a week and every day except Christmas Day.

    I was wrong. My S&S order items already dispatched via An Post are out for delivery today. I wanted to have a lie in but the postman normally comes around 10.


  • #1704
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    An Post delivering today. Our postman said there were 445 houses on his route and he had 187 packages today. He has to go back to the depot at some point because they won't all fit in the van.


  • #1705
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    Caranica wrote: »
    An Post delivered on Friday but won't be delivering again until Tuesday. Amazon's own drivers work 7 days a week and every day except Christmas Day.

    AnPost delivered today.


  • #1706
    Caranica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    AnPost delivered today.

    See my post two posts back!


  • #1707
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    I hope An Post is getting a good deal for delivering Amazon stuff. I don't know how they are though- vanloads of deliveries of postage-free (to consumers) stuff can't be making much money for them, if I know Jeff Bezos..

    I got a product delivered today (600 grams in a 9inch x 6inch x 4 inch box.. Delivered from UK.

    I paid £3.07 all included.. Crazy!!


  • #1708
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I hope An Post is getting a good deal for delivering Amazon stuff. I don't know how they are though- vanloads of deliveries of postage-free (to consumers) stuff can't be making much money for them, if I know Jeff Bezos..

    I got a product delivered today (600 grams in a 9inch x 6inch x 4 inch box.. Delivered from UK.

    I paid £3.07 all included.. Crazy!!

    I haven't had AnPost deliver anything from Amazon to me since December. It's all Amazon themselves now.


  • #1709
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    I haven't had AnPost deliver anything from Amazon to me since December. It's all Amazon themselves now.

    I have 5 deliveries from Amazon arriving today all through An Post.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #1710
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    We've had a mix (amazon own staff vs an post) but there were deliveries yesterday from An post. Strange for a bank holiday!


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  • #1711
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    ELM327 wrote: »
    We've had a mix (amazon own staff vs an post) but there were deliveries yesterday from An post. Strange for a bank holiday!

    An Post have delivered on the last three bank holidays.


  • #1712
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    SMC92Ian wrote: »
    I haven't had AnPost deliver anything from Amazon to me since December. It's all Amazon themselves now.

    Greater Dublin area?


  • #1713
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Greater Dublin area?
    We get Amazon staff delivering to us in Meath.


  • #1714
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Greater Dublin area?

    South Kildare


  • #1715
    amdaley28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    We had two boxes from Amazon delivered by AnPost this morning in the South West.
    Only order the other day & supposed to be delivered next Thursday.
    Amazon flying it at the moment.


  • #1716
    atahuapla
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭atahuapla


    Interesting to see Irish customers being prodded to visit amazon.nl now with a big homepage banner.

    I wonder is it because the cost per shipment is lower post-Brexit. I'm ordering everything individually nowadays to keep it under £22 meaning I get Prime deliveries way more often but for items far less valuable.


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  • #1717
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    atahuapla wrote: »
    Interesting to see Irish customers being prodded to visit amazon.nl now with a big homepage banner.

    I wonder is it because the cost per shipment is lower post-Brexit. I'm ordering everything individually nowadays to keep it under £22 meaning I get Prime deliveries way more often but for items far less valuable.

    Amazon.nl is a waste of time IMO. When I go into products, most are unavailable. Its probably coz of my Irish address..:confused::rolleyes:


  • #1718
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    atahuapla wrote: »
    I'm ordering everything individually nowadays to keep it under £22 meaning I get Prime deliveries way more often but for items far less valuable.

    There's ~12 weeks left on that, this would be part of why they'll be guiding people to EU sites.


  • #1719
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    L1011 wrote: »
    There's ~12 weeks left on that, this would be part of why they'll be guiding people to EU sites.

    The postage cost is going to be a significant hurdle to that. Also product availability to Irl addresses..


  • #1720
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    Just a warning to everyone that the AddressScalp fee of €6.50 is counted in the €22 threshold for VAT charges.

    I got a nice fat charge of €5.75 VAT + an "An Post Fee" of €3.50 on top of the €6.50 delivery charge on an item that cost £16.12.

    Total cost of item that would have cost 16.12 before xmas = €34.35

    Boo hoo poor An Post - Everybody sending emails means nobody buys stamps anymore so now we have no money to keep our branches open...


  • #1721
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You're blaming An Post for Revenue rules there.


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  • #1722
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    Just a warning to everyone that the AddressScalp fee of €6.50 is counted in the €22 threshold for VAT charges.

    I got a nice fat charge of €5.75 VAT + an "An Post Fee" of €3.50 on top of the €6.50 delivery charge on an item that cost £16.12.

    Total cost of item that would have cost 16.12 before xmas = €34.35

    Boo hoo poor An Post - Everybody sending emails means nobody buys stamps anymore so now we have no money to keep our branches open...

    Firstly it's fairly well known that customs charges or VAT include all costs of delivery.
    Secondly it's Revenue who are charging you and An Post are possibly the cheaper handling fee for collecting in behalf of Revenue,

    You bought in the UK with delivery to a UK address, so had to pay UK VAT. You then increased to cost of the item at entry into Ireland by paying to have it imported from the UK to Ireland, thus incurring Irish VAT.
    Just get it sent here and save on UK vat plus handling fees.

    But don't blame An Post, as all handlers would have charged you and probably with bigger handling fee.


  • #1723
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    Just a warning to everyone that the AddressScalp fee of €6.50 is counted in the €22 threshold for VAT charges.

    I got a nice fat charge of €5.75 VAT + an "An Post Fee" of €3.50 on top of the €6.50 delivery charge on an item that cost £16.12.

    Total cost of item that would have cost 16.12 before xmas = €34.35

    Boo hoo poor An Post - Everybody sending emails means nobody buys stamps anymore so now we have no money to keep our branches open...

    Same for every single import from outside the EU with every courier/fowarder.


  • #1724
    mrslancaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Any suggestions of how to buy a product on amazon uk that don't deliver to ROI? We used get it through parcel motel to NI and then to a PM locker in Dublin but afaik that service has stopped.

    No issue with paying any import taxes/vat etc, its for a product made by UK company and only available in UK.


  • #1725
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    mrslancaster wrote: »
    Any suggestions of how to buy a product on amazon uk that don't deliver to ROI? We used get it through parcel motel to NI and then to a PM locker in Dublin but afaik that service has stopped.

    No issue with paying any import taxes/vat etc, its for a product made by UK company and only available in UK.

    I had no luck with this either.


  • #1726
    Caranica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Addresspal is still working. Just expensive in terms of paying UK VAT plus Irish VAT plus their charges


  • #1727
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Caranica wrote: »
    Addresspal is still working. Just expensive in terms of paying UK VAT plus Irish VAT plus their charges

    I find that AddressPal only really is of value to me for cheap **** bought off e-Bay. I haven't found any situation where it makes sense to use it for anything else, other than the situation outlined 3 posts back (eg Amazon Fire TV stick).


  • #1728
    Caranica
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I find that AddressPal only really is of value to me for cheap **** bought off e-Bay. I haven't found any situation where it makes sense to use it for anything else, other than the situation outlined 3 posts back (eg Amazon Fire TV stick).

    I was answering that post ;)


  • #1729
    Poncke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Poncke


    mrslancaster wrote: »
    Any suggestions of how to buy a product on amazon uk that don't deliver to ROI? We used get it through parcel motel to NI and then to a PM locker in Dublin but afaik that service has stopped.

    No issue with paying any import taxes/vat etc, its for a product made by UK company and only available in UK.


    AdressPal, but make sure you use the correct address/user ID


  • #1730
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Poncke wrote: »
    AdressPal, but make sure you use the correct address/user ID

    And allow for UK Vat, addresspal charge, Irish Vat on cost of item plus P&P plus addeesspal fee, and An Post's handling fee for collecting the VAT.


  • #1731
    Poncke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Poncke


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    And allow for UK Vat, addresspal charge, Irish Vat on cost of item plus P&P plus addeesspal fee, and An Post's handling fee for collecting the VAT.

    You don't pay VAT twice. Yes, the Addresspal service cost money, do you expect it to be free? And addresspal charge and addresspal fee, is that not the same? And there is a VAT collection fee, correct.

    But your efforts to make it all sound very bad have gone over the top and is mainly incorrect.

    So what Anpost collect is the following:

    Irish VAT if the threshold is met (revenue)
    Addresspal shipping fee (cost for the service)
    Anpost handling fee (admin fee)

    I do agree it all adds up but you cant argue with the first two charges, the third charge bothers me, but nothing you can do about it.

    Alternatively, dont use the service.


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  • #1732
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Poncke wrote: »
    You don't pay VAT twice. Yes, the Addresspal service cost money, do you expect it to be free? And addresspal charge and addresspal fee, is that not the same? And there is a VAT collection fee, correct.

    But your efforts to make it all sound very bad have gone over the top and is mainly incorrect.

    So what Anpost collect is the following:

    Irish VAT if the threshold is met (revenue)
    Addresspal shipping fee (cost for the service)
    Anpost handling fee (admin fee)

    I do agree it all adds up but you cant argue with the first two charges, the third charge bothers me, but nothing you can do about it.

    Alternatively, dont use the service.

    Using Addresspal you most certainly pay VAT twice. As it is shipped within the UK first you pay UK VAT. On forwarding to Ireland you must then pay Irish VAT if over the very low threshold .

    UK VAT + Irish VAT = Twice.

    I listed nothing that isn't a charge.


  • #1733
    Poncke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Poncke


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Using Addresspal you most certainly pay VAT twice. As it is shipped within the UK first you pay UK VAT. On forwarding to Ireland you must then pay Irish VAT if over the very low threshold .

    UK VAT + Irish VAT = Twice.

    I listed nothing that isn't a charge.


    Right, correct, what I meant was Anpost doesn't collect UK VAT. Because we were talking about Addresspal.

    You listed Adresspal charges twice


  • #1734
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Poncke wrote: »
    Right, correct, what I meant was Anpost doesn't collect UK VAT. Because we were talking about Addresspal.

    You listed Adresspal charges twice

    Look at the punctuation: It was Irish VAT on the addresspal delivery portion of the total cost of the Good.


  • #1735
    amdaley28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    Poncke wrote: »
    You don't pay VAT twice. Yes, the Addresspal service cost money, do you expect it to be free? And addresspal charge and addresspal fee, is that not the same? And there is a VAT collection fee, correct.

    But your efforts to make it all sound very bad have gone over the top and is mainly incorrect.

    So what Anpost collect is the following:

    Irish VAT if the threshold is met (revenue)
    Addresspal shipping fee (cost for the service)
    Anpost handling fee (admin fee)

    I do agree it all adds up but you cant argue with the first two charges, the third charge bothers me, but nothing you can do about it.

    Alternatively, dont use the service.

    Exactly this.


  • #1736
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,642 ✭✭✭corkie


    Poncke wrote: »
    You don't pay VAT twice.

    Alternatively, dont use the service.
    Poncke wrote: »
    Right, correct, what I meant was Anpost doesn't collect UK VAT. Because we were talking about Addresspal.

    If you order something from a UK seller to addresspal, your charged UK Vat in the transaction.

    Then when it gets to AP, your charged Irish Vat on top of the whole UK price incl of UK Vat. So your right AP doesn't collect UK Vat, but you have paid for it anyway.


  • #1737
    dubmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭dubmick


    strangely got an Amazon package delivered by AnPost today. I'd say it's about 6 months now where every package was delivered by Amazon themselves, well ParcelKing.


  • #1738
    Clara Handsome Rodeo
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Clara Handsome Rodeo


    Made two separate orders on Amazon UK. One was under €22 and the other was over and I paid an Import Fees Deposit. They've dispatched both orders together so I'm not sure if I'm gonna get hit with another charge. Yes I've read the summary. It's like the more I research and study the more confused I am.


  • #1739
    Kerry25x
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Kerry25x


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Made two separate orders on Amazon UK. One was under €22 and the other was over and I paid an Import Fees Deposit. They've dispatched both orders together so I'm not sure if I'm gonna get hit with another charge. Yes I've read the summary. It's like the more I research and study the more confused I am.


    Nah, you'll be fine. They've shipped loads of small items together for me and I've never been charged.


  • #1740
    Ogham
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Ogham


    Has anyone had to return faulty/broken items to Amazon Uk where "import fees" were charged?
    Did you get a full refund including the import fees ?


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  • #1741
    VG31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭VG31


    Ogham wrote: »
    Has anyone had to return faulty/broken items to Amazon Uk where "import fees" were charged?
    Did you get a full refund including the import fees ?

    Yes.


  • #1742
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Ogham wrote: »
    Has anyone had to return faulty/broken items to Amazon Uk where "import fees" were charged?
    Did you get a full refund including the import fees ?

    Returned something yesterday in a post office that was an electrical item (faulty), it originally had import duties as part of the original transaction.

    Money turned up in Revolut this afternoon - the full price I paid, have to commend Amazon on their customer service.


  • #1743
    Wompa1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    dubmick wrote: »
    strangely got an Amazon package delivered by AnPost today. I'd say it's about 6 months now where every package was delivered by Amazon themselves, well ParcelKing.

    Out in the shticks, we have only received Amazon deliveries from An Post.


  • #1744
    Brian2011
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Brian2011


    If I buy something from Amazon UK that is fulfilled by Amazon or where it says "Sold by ... and dispatched by Amazon", does that mean I don't also have to pay Irish Vat and handling fee?


  • #1745
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    Well I'm paying Prime and suddenly packages are getting delayed, used to be 1 or 2 days.


  • #1746
    Poncke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Poncke


    Brian2011 wrote: »
    If I buy something from Amazon UK that is fulfilled by Amazon or where it says "Sold by ... and dispatched by Amazon", does that mean I don't also have to pay Irish Vat and handling fee?

    You pay VAT over everything since July 1st. So if your shipping address is in ROI then you pay 23% VAT. If you mean customs fee with handling fee, you pay that over all items over 22 euro.


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  • #1747
    Brian2011
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Brian2011


    Poncke wrote: »
    You pay VAT over everything since July 1st. So if your shipping address is in ROI then you pay 23% VAT. If you mean customs fee with handling fee, you pay that over all items over 22 euro.

    So you only have to pay a handling fee if your item is over €22 in value, are you sure about that??


  • #1748
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,034 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    This VAT stuff really needs a FAQ..


  • #1749
    Brian2011
    Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Brian2011


    Poncke wrote: »
    You pay VAT over everything since July 1st. So if your shipping address is in ROI then you pay 23% VAT. If you mean customs fee with handling fee, you pay that over all items over 22 euro.

    I think you have to pay a handling fee regardless of value??


  • #1750
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,551 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Basq wrote: »
    This VAT stuff really needs a FAQ..

    On the other forum

    This thread is only not punted over there are as there consumer rights concerns about returns for faulty kit etc.


  • #1751
    Poncke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Poncke


    Brian2011 wrote: »
    So you only have to pay a handling fee if your item is over €22 in value, are you sure about that??

    Not sure what you mean with handling fee.

    Limit for duty is €150


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