Wifi mesh systems

tobdom · 17-06-2020 8:42am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How is the Deco going for you?

Great! Very happy with them. Haven't really had to think about them, which is exactly what you want. They have definitely made a significant improvement to WiFi coverage & speed throughout the house. Would (and have) happily reccomend them, especially after the recent firmware/app update.

Clareman · 17-06-2020 9:03am

Fair bit of marketing guff going on here

https://9to5google.com/2020/06/16/google-nest-wifi-update/

GhostyMcGhost · 17-06-2020 9:15am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How is the Deco going for you?

I have 2 pack deco M7 And very happy with it, loving the app, very easy on the eye and easy to manage. Have 2 small boys but will 100% using parental controls when they’re older!!

I might upgrade to a new set that supports WiFi 6 in future. When doing virgin speed test I was getting almost full 500Mb on my phone .... now it tops out in the 200’s ... other than that, I don’t have intermittent WiFi drops like I did connected to VM router

Plus one big advantage that I might switch providers and shouldn’t take much effort

Double C · 17-06-2020 1:17pm

I setup the Deco P9 in my house about a month ago and it's giving great coverage all over the house and in the garage and garden as well. I've noticed a few things though, like images on done deal/adverts, my Gmail inbox, new podcasts, my Twitter feed etc all take ages to load. If I turn the WiFi off it all loads using mobile data straight away. Has anyone else encountered this? It's very annoying!

JohnK · 17-06-2020 3:03pm

Double C wrote: »

I've noticed a few things though, like images on done deal/adverts, my Gmail inbox, new podcasts, my Twitter feed etc all take ages to load. If I turn the WiFi off it all loads using mobile data straight away. Has anyone else encountered this? It's very annoying!

Are you with Virgin by any chance? I've a new Nest router and oddly enough I've noticed something similar.

beauf · 17-06-2020 3:24pm

If your on Virgin might be best in bridge mode.

Double C · 17-06-2020 3:26pm

JohnK wrote: »

Are you with Virgin by any chance? I've a new Nest router and oddly enough I've noticed something similar.

No I've Siro through Digiweb. I've the WiFi turned off on the Fritz box

Clareman · 17-06-2020 4:05pm

Double C wrote: »

I setup the Deco P9 in my house about a month ago and it's giving great coverage all over the house and in the garage and garden as well. I've noticed a few things though, like images on done deal/adverts, my Gmail inbox, new podcasts, my Twitter feed etc all take ages to load. If I turn the WiFi off it all loads using mobile data straight away. Has anyone else encountered this? It's very annoying!

I've SIRO with a Fritzbox with the Nest Wifi and I did notice a DNS conflict from time to time so I've all teh devices set to the same DNS and don't have that issue anymore

bk · 17-06-2020 6:02pm

Clareman wrote: »

Fair bit of marketing guff going on here

https://9to5google.com/2020/06/16/google-nest-wifi-update/

That is actually very interesting and beneficial! The bit about the home automation communication now working locally on Google Home devices, rather then needing to go out to the cloud.

Clareman · 17-06-2020 10:16pm

bk wrote: »

That is actually very interesting and beneficial! The bit about the home automation communication now working locally on Google Home devices, rather then needing to go out to the cloud.

That bit is beneficial alright, that wasn't in the the original release notes

caddy16 · 22-06-2020 8:55am

Hi folks, I've a TP-Link Deco M5 up & running well in the house.

When house was being built CAT6 was brought to the telecom's box but not needed as fibre line was brought directly into house. I was thinking of extending this CAT6 out to garage and putting an external extender to cover garage & garden.

Would the below be the best option or is there a way I can incorporate something into my existing mesh network?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Waterproof-Installation-Controller-EAP110-Outdoor/dp/B01N4EGN6H/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=outside+wifi+booster&qid=1592812306&sr=8-3

Gooey Looey · 22-06-2020 8:58am

caddy16 wrote: »

Hi folks, I've a TP-Link Deco M5 up & running well in the house.

When house was being built CAT6 was brought to the telecom's box but not needed as fibre line was brought directly into house. I was thinking of extending this CAT6 out to garage and putting an external extender to cover garage & garden.

Would the below be the best option or is there a way I can incorporate something into my existing mesh network?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Waterproof-Installation-Controller-EAP110-Outdoor/dp/B01N4EGN6H/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=outside+wifi+booster&qid=1592812306&sr=8-3

If you already have mesh it would be mad to add an access point unless that access point also can be set to do mesh. Can it? I'm not sure

oppiuy · 22-06-2020 9:33am

For the Huawei q2 2 which is better the base and 2 satelittes of the 3 pack

GinSoaked · 22-06-2020 10:21am

Gooey Looey wrote: »

If you already have mesh it would be mad to add an access point unless that access point also can be set to do mesh. Can it? I'm not sure

Your mad to use a so called mesh when you can hard wire AP's. If it has the same SSID(s) and access levels as the "mesh" any mobile client device will roam because its the client device that ultimately decides which AP it connects to.

degsie · 22-06-2020 10:36am

GinSoaked wrote: »

Your mad to use a so called mesh when you can hard wire AP's. If it has the same SSID(s) and access levels as the "mesh" any mobile client device will roam because its the client device that ultimately decides which AP it connects to.

Not 100% accurate, some devices will aggressively hang on for life to the same AP even though there is closer AP in the vicinity. Mesh systems do the heavy listing by handing off between mesh devices seamlessly.

Gooey Looey · 22-06-2020 10:36am

GinSoaked wrote: »

Your mad to use a so called mesh when you can hard wire AP's. If it has the same SSID(s) and access levels as the "mesh" any mobile client device will roam because its the client device that ultimately decides which AP it connects to.

Yes normally agreed, but they already have a mesh setup in the house. Would be daft to add an AP to it when they can extend the existing mesh

caddy16 · 22-06-2020 10:48am

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Yes normally agreed, but they already have a mesh setup in the house. Would be daft to add an AP to it when they can extend the existing mesh

Thanks. How do I extend existing mesh outdoors?

Limited IT knowledge here so advice appreciated.

GerardKeating · 22-06-2020 10:51am

oppiuy wrote: »

For the Huawei q2 2 which is better the base and 2 satelittes of the 3 pack

I have the 3 pack and am quite happy with it.

One advantace of the "3 pack" is that the units have the option for wired connection, either over the powerline or wired ethernet.

Gooey Looey · 22-06-2020 10:52am

caddy16 wrote: »

Thanks. How do I extend existing mesh outdoors?

Limited IT knowledge here so advice appreciated.

If you can't run a cable buy another unit or two to extend it. I know nothing about TP link devices so can't advice which one. They should be sold singly, or there may be an AP that's compatible to set in mesh mode. Someone else will have to advise

oppiuy · 22-06-2020 11:09am

Thanks, i've pulled the trigger on that and hopefully all goes well. Its a new house so will have nothing to compare it 2. Currently using a Three B525 router in an old cottage until we move. Its working good for the TV wifi and working from home. We have no mobile signal in the house but ok broadband which is strange.

In the new house , the router will be in the Attic and when tested so far we have wifi on the second floor but that's it.The new system should give wifi all round. I've also gone and order the Poynting 4G-XPOL-A0001 attenna. Ill use this inside the attic and see how we go as i don't really want to be wall mounting stuff outside( the wife would kill me) I let ye know how it all goes and if the Antennae makes any real difference to overall speeds

GinSoaked · 22-06-2020 11:24am

degsie wrote: »

Not 100% accurate, some devices will aggressively hang on for life to the same AP even though there is closer AP in the vicinity. Mesh systems do the heavy listing by handing off between mesh devices seamlessly.

As I said how long goes it take to turn the WiFi on a mobile device on and off?

I've tested a setup with 5 TP-Link EAP 220's and the roaming is fine you can wander around on facetime and not even notice the handover. I have had devices aggressively lock on to one AP and guess what fixed the problem - rebooting the connecting device or toggling the WiFi on and off. Once restarted the device roamed again - device problem not an AP problem.

I have been searching the web for more information on the magical or should I say mythical handing off between mesh devices and so far haven't found it.

grogi · 22-06-2020 12:01pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

As I said how long goes it take to turn the WiFi on a mobile device on and off?

I've tested a setup with 5 TP-Link EAP 220's and the roaming is fine you can wander around on facetime and not even notice the handover. I have had devices aggressively lock on to one AP and guess what fixed the problem - rebooting the connecting device or toggling the WiFi on and off. Once restarted the device roamed again - device problem not an AP problem.

I have been searching the web for more information on the magical or should I say mythical handing off between mesh devices and so far haven't found it.

Well, that's not really fair... EAP is not entirely consumer grade AP and can be centrally managed from a controller. I would be very surprised if it doesn't coordinate roaming, at least with dropping clients with very low RSSI.. That's an attempt to grab some of that 'enterprise but not there yet' market Ubiquity is famous for.

GinSoaked · 22-06-2020 12:22pm

grogi wrote: »

Well, that's not really fair... EAP is not entirely consumer grade AP and can be centrally managed from a controller. I would be very surprised if it doesn't coordinate roaming, at least with dropping clients with very low RSSI.. That's an attempt to grab some of that 'enterprise but not there yet' market Ubiquity is famous for.

Its part of the same group of products that prompted Gooey Looey's comment "it would be mad to add an access point" so perfectly fair.

I didn't bother with the controller software in that setup as the AP's were added at different times. The controller software doesn't handle any form of "handover protocol" that I know of. The only really active the thing the AP's do is pick their own channels to reduce interference. While roaming is seamless I can't find any technical reference that states there is any special system other than same SSID's and access security on each AP.

Having used a lot of both TP-Link and Ubiquiti products I'd go as far as to say the TP-Link are a direct copy of the Ubiquiti.

Gooey Looey · 22-06-2020 12:36pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

As I said how long goes it take to turn the WiFi on a mobile device on and off?

I've tested a setup with 5 TP-Link EAP 220's and the roaming is fine you can wander around on facetime and not even notice the handover. I have had devices aggressively lock on to one AP and guess what fixed the problem - rebooting the connecting device or toggling the WiFi on and off. Once restarted the device roamed again - device problem not an AP problem.

I have been searching the web for more information on the magical or should I say mythical handing off between mesh devices and so far haven't found it.

The difference is with mesh the mesh nodes all appear with the same Mac address so in effect there is no roaming, your client device will always be connected to the nearest and strongest node. There is no drop and reconnect by the client device like on an Ap. It's seamless roaming. APs will never be completely seamless and some clients are poorly coded and make poor roaming decisions.

degsie · 22-06-2020 3:12pm

GinSoaked wrote: »

As I said how long goes it take to turn the WiFi on a mobile device on and off?

Is this a serious solution to roaming issues? Who wants to have the hassle for a mobile device force a re-negotiation if it won't relinquish the connection to a weak wifi signal.

grogi · 22-06-2020 4:30pm

Gooey Looey wrote: »

The difference is with mesh the mesh nodes all appear with the same Mac address so in effect there is no roaming

Lol... BSSID is different.

GinSoaked · 22-06-2020 4:43pm

degsie wrote: »

Is this a serious solution to roaming issues? Who wants to have the hassle for a mobile device force a re-negotiation if it won't relinquish the connection to a weak wifi signal.

Perfectly serious because the number of times it actually happens in minimal.

I've seen it happen so won't deny it but there is normally an underlying issue either device or user related. I've seen laptops that haven't been rebooted in days stick to one network, probably a windows/driver related and tablets that have so many apps running they don't have enough resources for hardly anything to work, user related. The last time I looked at the problem for someone the reason there was no roaming (my phone only connects in the office and not in the kitchen) was because one of the AP's was fried.

Gooey Looey · 22-06-2020 5:00pm

grogi wrote: »

Lol... BSSID is different.

I'm confused, why would you use mesh with different SSID?

grogi · 22-06-2020 8:29pm

Gooey Looey wrote: »

I'm confused, why would you use mesh with different SSID?

You're confused because BSSID is not SSID... BSSID is a unique identifier of the AP, even if they are part of the same WLAN.

oppiuy · 25-06-2020 4:58pm

So the Huawei 3 pack arrived today. I tested in the old cottage we are currently living in. Considering the cabling is ancient i cant belive the difference so far.. before today, we prob average 7mbs in the best area but since thse went in its 23 average in throughout the cottage. Thwy are connected via powerline and the main unit is using an extenstion lead first.. will test out the neq house later. Cat6 cables not readu to go but should gwt a good indication from powerline

garo · 27-06-2020 7:00pm

Read the whole thread and looking for some advice. Four bed detached with concrete outer walls and timber inside. Virgin 500Mbps coming into the room in the front of the house. Got 480 on the laptop in that room and 220 in the bedroom above. I currently use an old Zyxel PLA powerline adapter to the attic where I have a couple of servers and to the alarm system (under the stairs). On the computers in the attic I get 30Mbps because the adapters are old and the electric circuits in the house are a mess. One corner in the kitchen is also a blackhole.

Got a new laptop for WFH and wifi in the attic is abysmal. As soon as I step out of the attic I get 110Mbps on the laptop but on my desk I get 1-2 Mbps using the 5GHz network. Funnily enough I get a consistent 10-20Mbps both in the kitchen and on my attic desk with 2.4GHz but with 5GHz I keep dropping the connection. The huge difference in and out the attic door makes me think some insulation or foil in the attic floor is causing problems. Or maybe its just the ****ty Virgin Hub wifi AP.

Running cat6 up to the attic is possible as it is an almost straight line up. But it requires drilling and cutting the drywall and while I could do the job it will probably take a lot of time and cursing. So I will likely hire someone to do it but that still doesn't solve the 5GHz band issue in the kitchen. I may end up doing this eventually but I need a solution in the interim.

So my options are:
1) Get two extenders one for the plug point just outside the attic and another for the kitchen. TPLink: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WA850RE-Universal-Extender-Broadband-Ethernet/dp/B07ZWBBPQN
2) Get the Netgear Orbi RBK13 https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Whole-Wi-Fi-Network-System/dp/B07YQGS2W8/ Sattelites don't have an ethernet plug.
3) Get the Huawei Q2 Pro.
4) Get a proper Wifi router in the hope that fixed connections drops and other issues: Say like the NETGEAR Nighthawk X4S Smart Wifi Router (R7800) or TPLLink Archer (used to be vey popular here a few years ago)

Not looking to shell out for a tri-band system as I only need to do video calls in the attic and will eventually run cat6 to the attic.

Any suggestions?

Clareman · 27-06-2020 8:55pm

Sounds to me like mesh is the way to go, 1 main and 3 spots I'd say, main unit downstairs by the router, another 1 upstairs, 1 in the kitchen and then 1 in the attic. I'd imagine 1 of the mesh with build in LAN would suit you best if you have servers in the attic, save you converting them to wifi, maybe a small hub in the attic off it.

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 8:55pm

So to update where I am, had the huawei Q2 which was working. It worked great with 3 units but once I started to connect all 6 it seemed to have some difficulty. I had issue with units dropping off the app. Then the app would not open if I was in that hotspot.

I think the issue was I had too many of the main units and it would have worked better with the smaller satellites. When I disconnected all the units and left 3’ it was far more stable. It even worked in the office which ran off a 30m extension to top of garden

As usual as people have seen on this thread was the usual, ether sell or return. I couldn’t be bothered so in returned on Friday

I have replaced already, as my old TP-link plug system worked for 3 years previous I decided to go back to TP-link. I bought the Deco P9 3 main units and have installed. I also bought the Deco E3 add on units. So far the P9 have only arrived so will be interesting to see how stable with the multiple units are connected

The Huawei Q2 kit was good, I think the app needs some work compared to Linksys for one. Now the TP-Link app is not incredible either

For the price and if just buying 3 units then huawei. Let’s see how the TP-link works out, if not I might be divorced:-)

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 8:58pm

garo wrote: »

Read the whole thread and looking for some advice. Four bed detached with concrete outer walls and timber inside. Virgin 500Mbps coming into the room in the front of the house. Got 480 on the laptop in that room and 220 in the bedroom above. I currently use an old Zyxel PLA powerline adapter to the attic where I have a couple of servers and to the alarm system (under the stairs). On the computers in the attic I get 30Mbps because the adapters are old and the electric circuits in the house are a mess. One corner in the kitchen is also a blackhole.

Got a new laptop for WFH and wifi in the attic is abysmal. As soon as I step out of the attic I get 110Mbps on the laptop but on my desk I get 1-2 Mbps using the 5GHz network. Funnily enough I get a consistent 10-20Mbps both in the kitchen and on my attic desk with 2.4GHz but with 5GHz I keep dropping the connection. The huge difference in and out the attic door makes me think some insulation or foil in the attic floor is causing problems. Or maybe its just the ****ty Virgin Hub wifi AP.

Running cat6 up to the attic is possible as it is an almost straight line up. But it requires drilling and cutting the drywall and while I could do the job it will probably take a lot of time and cursing. So I will likely hire someone to do it but that still doesn't solve the 5GHz band issue in the kitchen. I may end up doing this eventually but I need a solution in the interim.

So my options are:
1) Get two extenders one for the plug point just outside the attic and another for the kitchen. TPLink: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WA850RE-Universal-Extender-Broadband-Ethernet/dp/B07ZWBBPQN
2) Get the Netgear Orbi RBK13 https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Whole-Wi-Fi-Network-System/dp/B07YQGS2W8/ Sattelites don't have an ethernet plug.
3) Get the Huawei Q2 Pro.
4) Get a proper Wifi router in the hope that fixed connections drops and other issues: Say like the NETGEAR Nighthawk X4S Smart Wifi Router (R7800) or TPLLink Archer (used to be vey popular here a few years ago)

Not looking to shell out for a tri-band system as I only need to do video calls in the attic and will eventually run cat6 to the attic.

Any suggestions?

Your best value is get the huawei

Don’t worry about the electricity, they will work out your lines anyway. For a standard house which only need 3 units they seem to work perfect, I only had issue when I added 4,5,6 onto it

garo · 28-06-2020 10:36am

Thanks both. Assume box has a decent return policy? I still see Q2 pro at 139 for the 3pk. My concern with using Huawei as the power line adapter is if I can operate the Zyxel powerline for the alarm alongside since I need a wired connection for the alarm base unit. I don’t need a lot of bandwidth for the alarm. And tbh I am ok with the 30Mbps for the server though obviously it would be nice if I could get more. The issue is more the lack of Wi-Fi and the 5Ghz connection dropping all the time causing me to have to choose between stability and speed on those two locations.

ThunbergsAreGo · 28-06-2020 10:50am

garo wrote: »

Thanks both. Assume box has a decent return policy? I still see Q2 pro at 139 for the 3pk. My concern with using Huawei as the power line adapter is if I can operate the Zyxel powerline for the alarm alongside since I need a wired connection for the alarm base unit. I don’t need a lot of bandwidth for the alarm. And tbh I am ok with the 30Mbps for the server though obviously it would be nice if I could get more. The issue is more the lack of Wi-Fi and the 5Ghz connection deoppong all the time causing me to have to choose between stability and speed on those two locations.

My neighbour bought them and hasn't had much success. Anyone had issues using them with Sky?

Rosahane · 28-06-2020 3:13pm

I am also looking at a mesh system, mainly to to extend coverage to the garden and a back kitchen so looking for recommendations.

The house is an extended semi D so not enormous and existing coverage is OK with the exception of the back kitchen extension and the garden.

I have an eir wifi router with a Home plug to get service to the set top box, a few Hue bulbs, Sonos speakers in five rooms, Ring doorbell and Ring floodlight camera in the garden, three Alexa devices, a couple of TP smart plugs and wifi enabled Siemens ovens as well as the usual smartphones, tablets and a laptop. The Ring floodlight camera is running of a TPlink wifi extender which is just about adequate. I want to put in another couple of wifi security cameras. Additional CAT cabling is not feasible.

Are the cheaper mesh systems like the TP link Deco E4 or the BT Mini going to be adequate and compatible with the existing devices or do I need to look at something else?

garo · 28-06-2020 4:44pm

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

My neighbour bought them and hasn't had much success. Anyone had issues using them with Sky?

You mean the Q2 Pro?

ThunbergsAreGo · 28-06-2020 5:34pm

garo wrote: »

You mean the Q2 Pro?

Yes, sorry

Gerry T · 28-06-2020 7:37pm

I put in 2* Q2pro packs, have a virgin router. All on WiFi, no structured cabling. works well but I've noticed that I need to switch the virgin router off/on once every 2 weeks. I'm on a 250mb/s pack and can measure 220 in the same room and 110 around the house, furthest point its down at 50mb/s. Thought that's a big drop but it works for what I'm doing.
Note I have the WiFi from the virgin router disabled, read somewhere that should be done so I did, not sure if it helps but I think when I did it I did notice a slight improvement.
Only issue is the app doesn't allow you to select powerline over WiFi, id like the option to be able to do that.
Overall I'm happy with my purchase.

Gerry T · 28-06-2020 7:38pm

I put in 2* Q2pro packs, have a virgin router. All on WiFi, no structured cabling. works well but I've noticed that I need to switch the virgin router off/on once every 2 weeks. I'm on a 250mb/s pack and can measure 220 in the same room and 110 around the house, furthest point its down at 50mb/s. Thought that's a big drop but it works for what I'm doing.
Note I have the WiFi from the virgin router disabled, read somewhere that should be done so I did, not sure if it helps but I think when I did it I did notice a slight improvement.
Only issue is the app doesn't allow you to select powerline over WiFi, id like the option to be able to do that.
Overall I'm happy with my purchase.

garo · 28-06-2020 9:05pm

Right thanks. I'm gonna give it a go as Box have an open box item - probably Shefwedfan's return :eek:. I'll report back here on how it performs.

garo · 28-06-2020 9:07pm

Gerry T wrote: »

Only issue is the app doesn't allow you to select powerline over WiFi, id like the option to be able to do that.
Overall I'm happy with my purchase.

You mean you cannot switch via app but only by going to the physical devices?

Shefwedfan · 28-06-2020 10:05pm

garo wrote: »

Right thanks. I'm gonna give it a go as Box have an open box item - probably Shedwedfan's return :eek:. I'll report back here on how it performs.

Haha haha

Probably!! I returned everything even the little plastic things on the plugs :-)

Shefwedfan · 29-06-2020 9:23am

The Bishop Basher wrote: »

One poster on this thread appears to like buying and returning every product they buy, but not before recommending it to multiple other posters as the only solution to their problems who then also have to return the products when they find them sub par. I would suggest ignoring the advice of those who can’t seem to make their minds up and try going with posters who were happy to pay a bit extra for a solution that works, that they’re happy with and that they don’t plan on returning.

On that note, given you don’t have a huge house to cover and your existing connection is working reasonably well, I would recommend google nest. I have a very similar setup to you but was getting patchy and inconsistent coverage. The nest has done exactly what it says on the tin and I now have fast reliable speeds in every room in the house. I couldn’t be happier with it and if you read down through the comments you’ll see others have had an identical experience.

You’ll a pay premium for it but it works and you won’t find yourself sending it back to try the next one, and the next one and so on and so on.

I guess this is aimed at me. So I will respond but I dont remember recommending any product as solution. I have said the Huawei is incredible value for money which it is.

Linksys Dual Band: First system. Nice app. Struggled for performance across the house with 3 units.

BT Whole House Dual Band: Upgraded as this had higher speeds and thought this might help: The Linksys Dual Band was superior I found to this system. The issue was not speed but using a Dual band

Linksys Tri-Band: Best system so far, coverage was great but for my house I required additional 2 units. I should have just stayed with it and bought the units but felt I could get better value. Linksys aware etc was a huge plus

Huawei Q2: Bought as I could get 6 units for the same price as 3 Linksys tri-band. The powerline helped but as the mini satellites where not available once I went over 3 units it was flaky. As I posted this meant "losing" units and to get them back meant a full restart of each box on the netwrok. The app not allowing you to restart the netwrok which other did was a bit painful

Tp-Link: THis was the unit I was going to buy instead of the Huawei but the value of Huawei was so good. So far seems to be a lot more stable but only 3 units connected. Rest are arriving today. No issues so far. The powerline works but I expected it too as when I started this it was to replace a TP-link powerline kit.

I think I have been at pains to say mulitple times the units I would buy would be the Linksys tri-band and especially in a two storey house. My house is a badly laid out bugalow with an office at top of garden. Powerline is going to suit it better. The linksys app is hugely better than naything else I have seen and most are not close to it in functionality. Even the TP-Link which I was surprised at.

The google nest, for a start it is dual band. So no its not fast. It is hugely overpriced as well. None of the system bar the Huawei have issues with firmware or stability.

Your paying a premium for google name but not the technology. A good dual band system costs nearly half the price to the google system.

Im not saying google is bad, just I think it is overpriced. You can check external reviews and from people on here but Tri-Band for high performance is a minimum. Next step is running ethernet cables

beauf · 29-06-2020 9:33am

I find all the information useful personally...

Gerry T · 29-06-2020 10:15am

garo wrote: »

You mean you cannot switch via app but only by going to the physical devices?

My understanding is the unit decides if it will connect on the mesh via power-line or wifi. You can't pick yourself.
I had 5 units in the house and saving one for a garden room that's going in later this yr. I needed 5 as the house layout is not 2 up/down. I've a 3 storey return 8ft ceilings with the main part of the house with 12ft ceilings, means the wifi is practically always going through at least 2 walls.
Like another poster said it seemed to be flakey but I put the 6th unit in and re-positioned them all so there was only 1 wall between units and the system is stable and giving good coverage.

kala85 · 29-06-2020 11:33am

To Shefwedfan

Would linksys triband be good enough for a bungalow. Does it have any back haul.

What about netgear orbi. How do you find them..

Shefwedfan · 29-06-2020 12:07pm

kala85 wrote: »

To Shefwedfan

Would linksys triband be good enough for a bungalow. Does it have any back haul.

What about netgear orbi. How do you find them..

The Orbi and Linksys Triband both have a seperate hidden 5Ghz wifi network as a back haul. You cannot connect devices to that network. It is used for internode communication.

I haven't tried the Orbi, mostly because they seems to be in the extra crazy money bracket. But I think someone on here had them and said they where excellent. The reviews I have seen as well suggest they are excellent.

What size bungalow? also is it fairly compact as in you have 3 spots you can place the units which will cover the entire house? My house is a mess and bit of the house sticking in all directions so hard to get the coverage without additional units

garo · 29-06-2020 3:06pm

https://www.elara.ie/productdetail.aspx?productcode=MME0714560

This also looks like a decent price for a tri-band system. I am surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. And is a lot less expensive than the tri-band Netgear Orbi systems.

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