Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

JCX BXC · 19-03-2015 12:29am

I was just wondering, what are the status of the A350's Aer Lingus are supposed to get? Its 2017 now isnt it?

Tenger · 19-03-2015 12:38am

Carnacalla wrote: »

I was just wondering, what are the status of the A350's Aer Lingus are supposed to get? Its 2017 now isnt it?

3 a year due for delivery in 2018,2019 and 2020. Confirmed in last months 2014 FY results.

JCX BXC · 19-03-2015 12:41am

Tenger wrote: »

3 a year due for delivery in 2018,2019 and 2020. Confirmed in last months 2014 FY results.

Cheers. Will they replace the A330's completely, partly or not at all?

Tenger · 19-03-2015 12:45am

Complete replacement is the current publicised plan. 2018: 3/6 ratio, 6/3 on 2018 and 9/0 in 2020.
Look at page 20 of this document-
http://corporate.aerlingus.com/investorrelations/regulatorynews/2014pressreleases/AerLingus_september_analyst_presentation.pdf

This is dated from Sept last when officially they were still looking at the A330neo....no mention of it in the results last month.

donvito99 · 19-03-2015 12:54am

Carnacalla wrote: »

Cheers. Will they replace the A330's completely, partly or not at all?

Tenger wrote: »

Complete replacement is the current publicised plan. 2018: 3/6 ratio, 6/3 on 2018 and 9/0 in 2020.
Look at page 20 of this document-
http://corporate.aerlingus.com/investorrelations/regulatorynews/2014pressreleases/AerLingus_september_analyst_presentation.pdf

This is dated from Sept last when officially they were still looking at the A330neo....no mention of it in the results last month.

And the breakdown of the 350s is reportedly 6/3 regional/regular variants.

JCX BXC · 19-03-2015 1:03am

donvito99 wrote: »

And the breakdown of the 350s is reportedly 6/3 regional/regular variants.

I assume the regionals have a shorter range (less fuel tanks) and more cargo storage than than the regular? They would still make it quite a distance though wouldn't they?

Tenger · 19-03-2015 1:05am

Carnacalla wrote: »

I assume the regionals have a shorter range (less fuel tanks) and more cargo storage than than the regular? They would still make it quite a distance though wouldn't they?

"Regional" is a bit of a misnomer as they still have long legs. They are the same aircraft but the engines are derated to create the regional version. They would have the same tanks and cargo space as standard but less range due to lower engine thrust. (A350-900 has a stated range of 15000km)
The airline can if they wish, pay a fee to uprate the engine to standard. The lower engine power also means lower maintenance costs over its life.

So makes sense for EI to go for the Regional version with the majority of their routes being East Coast USA. 3 'standard' A350 can cover SFO (and LAX!!)

From aviationweek in 2013:
The regional variant will also be limited to a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 250 tons, compared to 268 tons for the long-haul version.

L1011 · 19-03-2015 8:06am

The lower weight should also get it in to lower landing and on-route charges at some airports/controls; its generally one of the reasons for a paper de-rate.

I'd say its very likely that come 2020 they're going to want more than 9 craft of that size, but it may make more sense to get the neo's rather than keep some of the existing 330s if only for maintenance and other commonality reasons - RR engines on both; for instance. Or just order more 350s, of course.

olive20 · 21-03-2015 4:26pm

Aer Lingus will have to pull up their socks!!!

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31998530

A319er · 28-03-2015 11:20pm

Positioned from Manila brings EI up to 8 , plus 3 B757 and summer peak 767
Impressive growth over last three years , with DAA in ARN for next few weeks and only 4 330 with new seats , one in BOD at moment that leaves it very tight to complete the new config with summer now starting, good luck all round !

ProfessorPlum · 29-03-2015 2:58am

A319er wrote: »

Positioned from Manila brings EI up to 8 , plus 3 B757 and summer peak 767
Impressive growth over last three years , with DAA in ARN for next few weeks and only 4 330 with new seats , one in BOD at moment that leaves it very tight to complete the new config with summer now starting, good luck all round !

The refits are running behind schedule and with the new Sumer schedule upon is expect to see a number of hire ins over the few weeks.

eatmyshorts · 29-03-2015 8:34am

A319er wrote: »

Positioned from Manila brings EI up to 8 , plus 3 B757 and summer peak 767
Impressive growth over last three years , with DAA in ARN for next few weeks and only 4 330 with new seats , one in BOD at moment that leaves it very tight to complete the new config with summer now starting, good luck all round !

Assume you meant to say EI-EWR positioned back from Manila! It was there for maintenance.

A319er · 29-03-2015 11:29am

Titan and omni hire in today getting tight already , crew illness rather than
Delayed refits but so early to be this tight !

Tenger · 29-03-2015 11:42am

A319er wrote: »

Titan and omni hire in today getting tight already , crew illness rather than
Delayed refits but so early to be this tight !

I looked at the schedule for June/July on EI.com.
Looks like they have 8 A330 departures 5 days per week.
'only 7 on Tuesday and Saturday. Then factor in the daily rotation DUB-AGP-DUB. So not a lot of slack in the schedule.

JCX BXC · 29-03-2015 11:43am

Ha ha "EI.com"

When will all the refittings be completed?

man98 · 29-03-2015 1:16pm

Tenger wrote:

'only 7 on Tuesday and Saturday. Then factor in the daily rotation DUB-AGP-DUB. So not a lot of slack in the schedule.

Wasn't AGP moved to all A320s? I could be wrong, but I think I saw something about it.

Bussywussy · 29-03-2015 5:55pm

man98 wrote: »

Wasn't AGP moved to all A320s? I could be wrong, but I think I saw something about it.

No,DUZ operated the 584/5 today

lateconnection · 30-03-2015 11:57am

A319er wrote: »

Positioned from Manila brings EI up to 8 , plus 3 B757 and summer peak 767
Impressive growth over last three years , with DAA in ARN for next few weeks and only 4 330 with new seats , one in BOD at moment that leaves it very tight to complete the new config with summer now starting, good luck all round !

EI-DUZ Seats installed.

EI-EAV Seats installed

EI-EWR Seats will be installed very soon.

EI-DAA No seats installed-on Novair lease.

EI-EDY Seats installed

EI-ELA Currently in Bordeaux getting seats installed

EI-DUO Seats installed

EI-LAX Seats installed

The fact that DAA is away on lease and that for the past 3 months a330s have been in and out to Bordeaux, there has been an aircraft shortage.

Hence the reason why A330-300 have been used on DUB-SFO route, and why EI-DAA briefly returned to Dublin last week to operate DUB-JFK, because it was sitting around in Stockholm not on Novair duty on that particular day, and then positioned back to Arlanda.

lateconnection · 31-03-2015 8:30am

EI-ELA is currently on her way back to DUB from Bordeaux right now, as EI 2505.

john boye · 31-03-2015 10:04am

lateconnection wrote: »

EI-ELA is currently on her way back to DUB from Bordeaux right now, as EI 2505.

EI-EDY went the other direction earlier

arubex · 31-03-2015 10:34am

Just read on PPrune that Omni N225AX is operating EIN124 inbound this morning. Still over the Atlantic ( three hour delay ). Wonder if this is a combined revenue / positioning flight for it?

Now on FR, redacted as usual with the Omni fleet.

http://fr24.com/B762/5e21062

On my receiver at 10:30, reg & callsign confirmed

JCX BXC · 31-03-2015 11:34am

arubex wrote: »

Just read on PPrune that Omni N225AX is operating EIN124 inbound this morning. Still over the Atlantic ( three hour delay ). Wonder if this is a combined revenue / positioning flight for it?

Now on FR, redacted as usual with the Omni fleet.

http://fr24.com/B762/5e21062

On my receiver at 10:30, reg & callsign confirmed

N225AX will also be leased by EI for the summer season interestingly enough.

arubex · 31-03-2015 11:40am

Titan's B763 G-POWD did the westbound EIN125 yesterday. Wonder why it didn't bring 124 back today?

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/g-powd/#5e12d2c

Seems expensive to keep a Titan aircraft on the ground 6,000 km away. I can see the dollar signs spinning...

JCX BXC · 31-03-2015 11:42am

arubex wrote: »

Titan's B763 G-POWD did the westbound EIN125 yesterday. Wonder why it didn't bring 124 back today?

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/g-powd/#5e12d2c

It may be needed in the USA? It seems strange doesn't it..?

arubex · 31-03-2015 12:03pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

It may be needed in the USA? It seems strange doesn't it..?

Just occurred to me; probably only one Titan flight crew were on standby to go west and upon arrival would not have had enough rest hours available before 124 departure time.

Presumably will op 124 this evening.

JCX BXC · 31-03-2015 12:14pm

EI-DAA is returning this evening isn't it?

b757 · 31-03-2015 12:20pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI-DAA is returning this evening isn't it?

She is now, on approach to 28.

NVR9001

Locker10a · 31-03-2015 3:17pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

N225AX will also be leased by EI for the summer season interestingly enough.

How will this work? Will it get a shamrock painted on the tail? Cabin refresh? Will it be EI cabin crew ?

JCX BXC · 31-03-2015 3:23pm

Locker10a wrote: »

How will this work? Will it get a shamrock painted on the tail? Cabin refresh? Will it be EI cabin crew ?

It will get white EI titles, they are putting in business class, 2,2,2 formation, no major economy change. Omni pilots but EI cabin crew.

arubex · 31-03-2015 3:44pm

Have just noticed that there is no Tuesday EIN124 / 125 for the next two weeks, so presumably 225AX and POWD will hold position where they currently reside until Wednesday

arubex · 01-04-2015 7:07am

G-POWD flew back from Chicago to Stansed empty as EIN992P!

N225AX still appears to be in Dublin.

01-04-2015 7:16am

arubex wrote: »

G-POWD flew back from Chicago to Stansed empty as EIN992P!

N225AX still appears to be in Dublin.

Leaving in 45 mins going to Vegas baby #whathappensinVegas

The J Stands for Jay · 01-04-2015 8:08am

Preset No.3 wrote: »

I would rather get the now defunct $15 fung wah bus to Boston and fly home that have to go anywhere near the delapadated, run down, cramped airport that is LGA.

With those options I'd be joining the ranks of the undocumented Irish.

Tenger · 01-04-2015 1:55pm

arubex wrote: »

G-POWD flew back from Chicago to Stansed empty as EIN992P!...

I guess EI are footing the bill for STN-DUB-ORD, (overnight stay) ORD-STN

Carnacalla wrote: »

It will get white EI titles, they are putting in business class, 2,2,2 formation, no major economy change. Omni pilots but EI cabin crew.

I heard that it will be all Omni crew. EI have the crew for 3x ACL flown B757 and they will still be operating those aircraft. The B767 is in addition to the existing EI fleet, they would need more to cover the B767 too

highlydebased · 01-04-2015 2:00pm

Tenger wrote: »

I guess EI are footing the bill for STN-DUB-ORD, (overnight stay) ORD-STN
I heard that it will be all Omni crew. EI have the crew for 3x ACL flown B757 and they will still be operating those aircraft. The B767 is in addition to the existing EI fleet, they would need more to cover the B767 too

Indeed you're right. Remember the furore from some silly SNN councillor that the SNN based ACL cabin crew would "lose their jobs" for the few weeks of the Omni lease :rolleyes:

JCX BXC · 02-04-2015 2:03am

Where will the aircraft come out of to serve the newly announce SNN-BHX route? Will something get a chop? Will it be out of Cork or Dublin? There is no schedule for it at DUB or ORK

b757 · 02-04-2015 12:50pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Where will the aircraft come out of to serve the newly announce SNN-BHX route? Will something get a chop? Will it be out of Cork or Dublin? There is no schedule for it at DUB or ORK

DUB-BHX-SNN-BHX-DUB

JCX BXC · 02-04-2015 1:08pm

b757 wrote: »

DUB-BHX-SNN-BHX-DUB

That's commonly reported but where did the info come from?

There's no Stobart from Dublin in BHX at 16:55 to service the route.

LXFlyer · 02-04-2015 1:10pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

That's commonly reported but where did the info come from?

There's no Stobart from Dublin in BHX at 16:55 to service the route.

Presumably the DUB-BHX timetable will change to allow for that.

Airlines don't always put all of the changes up at once.

john boye · 02-04-2015 7:18pm

Anyone know where EI-CPG is lately. Doesn't seem to be out much while the other two A321s have been fairly busy

goingnowhere · 03-04-2015 8:48am

C check?

john boye · 03-04-2015 1:10pm

goingnowhere wrote: »

C check?

According to the lingus source (and I don't know how reliable that is), it entered maintenance on 26/10 last and there's been no mention of it since?

tennis12 · 03-04-2015 8:37pm

EI-CPG was parked outside hanger 6 this morning at 8am
Was gone when I passed at 5pm.

Crumbs868 · 05-04-2015 7:49am

Flew Paris to dublin on one of the ex virgin Atlantic a320s during the week. Still in virgins colours

lateconnection · 05-04-2015 9:37am

Is EI-EWR still in EIDW, I was there yesterday and she was not parked remote over on West apron, is she over near Hanger 6?

b757 · 05-04-2015 11:24am

lateconnection wrote: »

Is EI-EWR still in EIDW, I was there yesterday and she was not parked remote over on West apron, is she over near Hanger 6?

In hangar 6, painted and all.

Strumms · 10-04-2015 2:42pm

Anyone know what airframe is operating EI0594 to MAD later ?

Also just got an sms this morning from EI basicially telling me to buy any food and drinks at the airport as for operational reasons there will be 'little or nothing' available on board.. which i found odd so far in advance.

EICVD · 10-04-2015 2:44pm

Strumms wrote: »

Anyone know what airframe is operating EI0594 to MAD later ?

Also just got an sms this morning from EI basicially telling me to buy any food and drinks at the airport as for operational reasons there will be 'little or nothing' available on board.. which i found odd so far in advance.

Titan probably, their 767 positioned in to DUB not so long ago

flanzer · 10-04-2015 2:45pm

Strumms wrote: »

Anyone know what airframe is operating EI0594 to MAD later ?

Also just got an sms this morning from EI basicially telling me to buy any food and drinks at the airport as for operational reasons there will be 'little or nothing' available on board.. which i found odd so far in advance.

EIDEK - 320

flanzer · 10-04-2015 2:48pm

EICVD wrote: »

Titan probably, their 767 positioned in to DUB not so long ago

He's off to BOS as the 139 at 16:15

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