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  • #602
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I was just saying that the general gist of the post in the motors forum had tones of that, and that I could not understand why someone would decide to decide to disrespect all cyclists based on their interactions with some. Basically, I see motorists driving poorly daily but do not all of a sudden have the opinion all motorists are a hazard, so I'm wondering why it (at least seems to) happen with cyclists.

    I'd say it's a combination of things - cyclists are low hanging fruit, so cycling is "dangerous", a sense of motorists ownership of the roads due to "road tax"" that cyclists don't pay, frustration from drivers being stuck in traffic and seeing cyclists progress easier.

    Motorists also feel it necessary to lecture cyclists on their attire - helmets / hi-vis etc. It's again to reinforce that cycling is dangerous, whereas we all know it's motorized traffic that makes roads dangerous in the first place.


  • #603
    Annie get your Run
    Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I was just saying that the general gist of the post in the motors forum had tones of that, and that I could not understand why someone would decide to decide to disrespect all cyclists based on their interactions with some. Basically, I see motorists driving poorly daily but do not all of a sudden have the opinion all motorists are a hazard, so I'm wondering why it (at least seems to) happen with cyclists.

    I had just typed a similar reply, why?? but tomasrojo's link seems to go some way to explain it. I would never tar all motorists with the same brush (possibly with the exception of taxi drivers.....!) There are good and bad amongst all road users, I'm happy to assume they're good until they show me otherwise which seems to be the opposite of how cyclists are seen 'assume they're all bad red light jumping, holding up the traffic peeps who therefore deserve no respect'. Frightening.


  • #604
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Danbo! wrote: »
    I was just saying that the general gist of the post in the motors forum had tones of that, and that I could not understand why someone would decide to decide to disrespect all cyclists based on their interactions with some. Basically, I see motorists driving poorly daily but do not all of a sudden have the opinion all motorists are a hazard, so I'm wondering why it (at least seems to) happen with cyclists.

    Because it's acceptable(in some crazy persons mind) to discriminate against a less powerful minority would be the closest answer I have to that..


  • #605
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,171 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    "Eschew" seems to be my new favourite word.
    bless you.


  • #606
    LpPepper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭LpPepper


    I was out with about 8 or 9 from my club yesterday evening for a spin and had this driver overtake us very closely and into the path of an oncoming car on the way into Celbridge....The wide angle lens on my GoPro makes it appear not as close or as fast as it really was, was sincerely scary.

    Absolutely nuts....



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  • #607
    brownian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭brownian


    Very nearly took out the other car, whatever about you lads.


  • #608
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    brownian wrote: »
    Very nearly took out the other car, whatever about you lads.

    I wonder if the other motorist blames the over taker for the unsafe manoeuvre or the cyclists for "forcing" him to overtake like that?


  • #609
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    LpPepper wrote: »
    I was out with about 8 or 9 from my club yesterday evening for a spin and had this driver overtake us very closely and into the path of an oncoming car on the way into Celbridge....The wide angle lens on my GoPro makes it appear not as close or as fast as it really was, was sincerely scary.

    Absolutely nuts....


    Crazy, senseless maneuver. Needlessly putting others at risk. For what? A few seconds. The mind boggles.:confused:


  • #610
    LpPepper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭LpPepper


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Crazy, senseless maneuver. Needlessly putting others at risk. For what? A few seconds. The mind boggles.:confused:

    The driver pulled in just before the bridge in Celbridge village literally about 30 seconds later, with the hazards on. We were just waiting for him to swing open the door or shout something at us but nothing happened. So he literally put our lives and the other driver's life in his hands because he wanted to pull in up the road a few seconds sooner?? :confused:


  • #611
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    LpPepper wrote: »
    The driver pulled in just before the bridge in Celbridge village literally about 30 seconds later, with the hazards on. We were just waiting for him to swing open the door or shout something at us but nothing happened. So he literally put our lives and the other driver's life in his hands because he wanted to pull in up the road a few seconds sooner?? :confused:

    I'd of confronted him about his wreckless manouevre and tell him you'll put it up on Youtube!


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  • #612
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    I'd of confronted him about his wreckless manouevre and tell him you'll put it up on Youtube report it to the Gardai!

    FYP there....


  • #613
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    FYP there....

    I think YouTube with his reg would be more effective than that...


  • #614
    check_six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Another good example of someone trying a manoeuvre, not reading the road ahead, and causing a hazard. I had to look a couple of times to spot that the gap that the car left you was filled by another cyclist to your right. Yikes!


  • #615
    LpPepper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭LpPepper


    check_six wrote: »
    Another good example of someone trying a manoeuvre, not reading the road ahead, and causing a hazard. I had to look a couple of times to spot that the gap that the car left you was filled by another cyclist to your right. Yikes!

    Yep we were cycling 2 abreast, must have been a lot scarier for those on the outside...


  • #616
    Annie get your Run
    Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    check_six wrote: »
    Another good example of someone trying a manoeuvre, not reading the road ahead, and causing a hazard.

    TBH this happens on my commute every day, twice a day on two different roads with solid white lines, one is also a humpback bridge with zero visibility of what is coming and yet every single day, both ways, cars overtake me, over the white line (at least they're giving me space!) and into oncoming traffic. What puzzles me most is the reaction, or lack thereof, of the oncoming traffic. Mostly there's none! One of these days I'm going to witness a serious accident and I often wonder if the finger will be pointed straight at me.


  • #617
    shootermacg
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    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Crazy, senseless maneuver. Needlessly putting others at risk. For what? A few seconds. The mind boggles.:confused:

    Nice pace you guys were doing :)


  • #618
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    amcalester wrote: »
    I wonder if the other motorist blames the over taker for the unsafe manoeuvre or the cyclists for "forcing" him to overtake like that?

    I would guess that the responses following post 6104 over here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057386855&page=407
    would be representative of most motorists


  • #619
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,804 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Doctor Bob posted an interview with Andrew Gilligan in the Journalism and Cycling thread, but this bit dovetails with the conversation here:
    People decide they don’t want cycling then they look for reasons to oppose it. Then sometimes they just make up reasons.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103263267#post103263267


  • #620
    magicbastarder
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    josip wrote: »
    I would guess that the responses following post 6104 over here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057386855&page=407
    would be representative of most motorists
    posts about cyclists have been deleted.


  • #621
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    posts about cyclists have been deleted.

    The ones that remain are reasonable


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  • #622
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Annie get your Run wrote: »
    One of these days I'm going to witness a serious accident and I often wonder if the finger will be pointed straight at me.

    only it won't be a real "accident"! cause and effect and all that ;)
    an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.

    people are aware of the potential consequences of drink driving, speeding, dangerous overtaking, not paying due attention etc. therefore a resulting incident is a direct result of their actions rather than something that happens by chance.


  • #623
    mp31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭mp31


    LpPepper wrote: »
    I was out with about 8 or 9 from my club yesterday evening for a spin and had this driver overtake us very closely and into the path of an oncoming car on the way into Celbridge....The wide angle lens on my GoPro makes it appear not as close or as fast as it really was, was sincerely scary.

    Absolutely nuts....

    Please can I ask you to report it to the Gardai via the Traffic Watch number. Keep the footage, burn it to a CD ROM and give it to the Gardai when making a statement.


  • #624
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    josip wrote: »
    I would guess that the responses following post 6104 over here
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057386855&page=407
    would be representative of most motorists

    Fair point but that thread is fairy heavily moderated so we don't know if any posts were deleted.

    And the cyclists in that video were in single file, cycling 2 abreast seems to bring out the worst in otherwise reasonable motorists.


  • #625
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    amcalester wrote: »
    Fair point but that thread is fairy heavily moderated so we don't know if any posts were deleted.

    And the cyclists in that video were in single file, cycling 2 abreast seems to bring out the worst in otherwise reasonable motorists.

    There was one guy who posted who claimed he as a cycling and motorcyclist. He called out cyclists as the most selfish of road users, citing red light breaking, cycling 2 abreast, no helmets, hi-vis, lights, queried why advance boxes are used, footpaths.....ah heck, just the usual complaints about cyclists. This brought out some replies - in fairness the guy was on a trolling expedition about cyclists in the motoring forum.

    What puzzles me about the motoring forum is that it's almost a badge of honour to routinely break the speed limit and then come on and brag about it. Yet motorists will frequently go off on rants about cyclists - red light breaking etc.:confused:


  • #626
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    There was one guy who posted who claimed he as a cycling and motorcyclist. He called out cyclists as the most selfish of road users, citing red light breaking, cycling 2 abreast, no helmets, hi-vis, lights, queried why advance boxes are used, footpaths.....ah heck, just the usual complaints about cyclists. This brought out some replies - in fairness the guy was on a trolling expedition about cyclists in the motoring forum.

    What puzzles me about the motoring forum is that it's almost a badge of honour to routinely break the speed limit and then come on and brag about it. Yet motorists will frequently go off on rants about cyclists - red light breaking etc.:confused:

    Exactly, a few comments on a thread isn't a fair representation of all motorists.


  • #627
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Interesting study of who breaks rules and why. More or less 100% of road users - drivers, pedestrians, truckers, cyclists, bikers, vanmen, taxi drivers - break laws, but cyclists break fewest; their reason for breaking them (for instance by going through red lights or cycling on pavements) tends to be safety, whereas drivers and pedestrians give "saving time" as their main reason.

    Love the word "scofflaws" used in the article! Hate that they use 'flaunt' when they mean 'flout' (flinch).

    http://www.ssti.us/2017/04/we-all-break-traffic-laws-why-are-bicyclists-different/
    …This difference may be linked to the low mode share for transportation bicycling, and your personal reaction may be linked to whether you get around by bike and whether you yourself are mostly law-abiding in the same situation. In addition, bicyclists’ lawbreaking ways are rational and generally safe, whereas drivers’ most common types of illegal behaviors—speeding and running red lights—are two of the top factors in injury and fatal crashes. Red light running by motorists is so common that Google has programmed its autonomous cars to wait one second after a green signal before proceeding.
    These are among the conclusions of two papers by University of Colorado Denver professor Wesley Marshall. Marshall noted that there are few studies of the rate of bicycling lawbreaking and fewer still of why bicyclists flaunt the laws they do. In order to gather information about the behaviors of drivers, bicyclists, and pedestrians, the reasons for any lawbreaking behavior, and their attitudes toward other road users, he performed a scenario-based survey of 18,000 respondents. Both articles are based on the results of the survey.
    In an article in the Journal of Transport and Land Use, Marshall concludes that while almost 100 percent of road users are scofflaws, regardless of mode, the reasons for lawbreaking differ. Drivers and pedestrians generally report that they are saving time. Saving time came in third as a reason for bicyclists, but personal safety was the top reason, with saving energy as second. Visibility to other road users was the fourth place answer.


  • #628
    RayCun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Interesting study of who breaks rules and why. More or less 100% of road users - drivers, pedestrians, truckers, cyclists, bikers, vanmen, taxi drivers - break laws, but cyclists break fewest; their reason for breaking them (for instance by going through red lights or cycling on pavements) tends to be safety, whereas drivers and pedestrians give "saving time" as their main reason.

    Love the word "scofflaws" used in the article! Hate that they use 'flaunt' when they mean 'flout' (flinch).

    http://www.ssti.us/2017/04/we-all-break-traffic-laws-why-are-bicyclists-different/

    To be honest, most of the cyclists I see breaking red lights might say "safety! " if pressed, but they are clearly doing it to save time and momentum.


  • #629
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    RayCun wrote: »
    they are clearly doing it to save time and momentum.

    Which is the main appeal of using a bicycle to commute rather than a car or taxi/bus...

    Our more enlightened European neighbours, the Dutch are trialling a Green Wave system for bicyclists...

    https://vimeo.com/144718190

    Maybe we'll see something like this in Ireland by the year 2057?


  • #630
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,999 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    emm.. no.. just with regards to transportation..


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  • #631
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Crazy, senseless maneuver. Needlessly putting others at risk. For what? A few seconds. The mind boggles.:confused:

    My mind boggles too, but it's an all too regular occurance these days. it demonstrates a complete lack of awareness of the rules of the road, no clue as to when to overtake and how to do so safely.


  • #632
    jiltloop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Been commuting in and out of work for a short few months now and had my first proper scare yesterday afternoon. I had built up quite a bit of speed going downhill coming up to Raheny when a lady overtook me and suddenly indicated left and pulled straight across my path to enter a petrol station on the left.

    I jammed on both breaks and nearly came off the bike but managed to control the wobble. I hesitated at the exit of the petrol station deciding whether to confront her or not as you don't often get the chance to. I was about to cycle off but then decided when I saw her on her phone in the forecourt still sitting in the car that I would go over to her.

    She saw me approach when I was a few feet away from her door and I asked her "did you not see me there?!", she opened the door and said "what?" and I repeated "did you not see me there?!". She said no and I tried to remain as calm as possible and just said "you very nearly took me out of it!". She apologized so I just left it at that and went on my way.

    I was glad I approached her as hopefully she'll realise how serious a incident it could have been and be more careful and observant going forward.


  • #633
    Danjamin1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Danjamin1


    jiltloop wrote: »
    Been commuting in and out of work for a short few months now and had my first proper scare yesterday afternoon. I had built up quite a bit of speed going downhill coming up to Raheny when a lady overtook me and suddenly indicated left and pulled straight across my path to enter a petrol station on the left.

    I jammed on both breaks and nearly came off the bike but managed to control the wobble. I hesitated at the exit of the petrol station deciding whether to confront her or not as you don't often get the chance to. I was about to cycle off but then decided when I saw her on her phone in the forecourt still sitting in the car that I would go over to her.

    She saw me approach when I was a few feet away from her door and I asked her "did you not see me there?!", she opened the door and said "what?" and I repeated "did you not see me there?!". She said no and I tried to remain as calm as possible and just said "you very nearly took me out of it!". She apologized so I just left it at that and went on my way.

    I was glad I approached her as hopefully she'll realise how serious a incident it could have been and be more careful and observant going forward.

    All too common an occurrence. She definitely saw you btw, she just didn't give a f**k. I had a taxi do something similar this morning though I wouldn't class it as a near miss, he overtook me then 100 yards down the road indicated left and started pulling in to the kerb across me. To be fair I could see his indicator and I should've just overtaken him on the right but I ended up braking to let him pull in across me as he wasn't in any mood to yield. Was odd though as he didn't just pull in left after he indicated, he waited til I was nearly at his rear before he started closing the gap to the kerb.


  • #634
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    jiltloop wrote: »
    Been commuting in and out of work for a short few months now and had my first proper scare yesterday afternoon. I had built up quite a bit of speed going downhill coming up to Raheny when a lady overtook me and suddenly indicated left and pulled straight across my path to enter a petrol station on the left.

    I jammed on both breaks and nearly came off the bike but managed to control the wobble. I hesitated at the exit of the petrol station deciding whether to confront her or not as you don't often get the chance to. I was about to cycle off but then decided when I saw her on her phone in the forecourt still sitting in the car that I would go over to her.

    She saw me approach when I was a few feet away from her door and I asked her "did you not see me there?!", she opened the door and said "what?" and I repeated "did you not see me there?!". She said no and I tried to remain as calm as possible and just said "you very nearly took me out of it!". She apologized so I just left it at that and went on my way.

    I was glad I approached her as hopefully she'll realise how serious a incident it could have been and be more careful and observant going forward.

    Sounds identical to me at the filling station in Castleknock a few years back, I was thankfully going slow because the driver managed to knock me off my bike. He probably wondered what the thud was, and was equally surprised when I confronted him in the filling station forecourt.

    I'm 6'2", had a flashing bright light on the seat post and one on my helmet. Hi-vis bag cover. And he still claimed to have not seen me

    There needs to be a real education of drivers on this type of maneuver - the most common and potentially dangerous IMHO. I think it's genuine lack of awareness / ignorance on the part of the driver rather than malice in a lot of cases.


  • #635
    Tenzor07
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    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    I'm 6'2", had a flashing bright light on the seat post and one on my helmet. Hi-vis bag cover. And he still claimed to have not seen me

    Yet if you cycled through a red traffic signal you'd have motorists phoning into the George Hook radio show to complain about dangerous cyclists!

    So basically we all know that in cases like what happened to you, the SMIDSY is just a bare faced lie!


  • #636
    jiltloop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    Yeah I'm convinced she did see me, I was wearing hi-vis gear and I'm 6ft 4". She seemed to want to turn in to the petrol station in front of me instead of having the patience to left me by and probably didn't realise that I was going 35-40 km/h. That's why when I saw her on the phone in the forecourt in no rush to get out of her car that I decided I would confront her. If she was in such a rush why sit in her car browsing through her phone instead of hopping out to get petrol.


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  • #637
    mr spuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,121 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    assuming you're talking about the station after the lights at Brookwood, it's a fairly lethal spot for that. almost every day someone tries to cut me off there.

    although yesterday evening i kinda had the opposite at the same spot, a car maybe 2 or 3 cars up ahead of us was indicating left to turn in there and the 3 cyclists ahead of me all went up the inside of him, with him stopped waiting to turn in and expecting me to also continue on. i pulled out into the traffic lane behind him and waved him in, with the car behind me giving me plenty of space and the guy in front waving in polite acknowledgment. in the grand scheme of things it makes fvck all difference but these more positive (or what should be normal & everyday) interactions with attentive and polite motorists always make me feel better about the world!


  • #638
    jiltloop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    mr spuckler wrote: »
    assuming you're talking about the station after the lights at Brookwood, it's a fairly lethal spot for that. almost every day someone tries to cut me off there.

    although yesterday evening i kinda had the opposite at the same spot, a car maybe 2 or 3 cars up ahead of us was indicating left to turn in there and the 3 cyclists ahead of me all went up the inside of him, with him stopped waiting to turn in and expecting me to also continue on. i pulled out into the traffic lane behind him and waved him in, with the car behind me giving me plenty of space and the guy in front waving in polite acknowledgment. in the grand scheme of things it makes fvck all difference but these more positive (or what should be normal & everyday) interactions with attentive and polite motorists always make me feel better about the world!

    That's the one alright. Yeah I agree with you on the above, I don't think a lot of cyclists are aware that they should not be undertaking a car indicating left which amazes me. I always stop and wave them on unless it's not safe for me to stop suddenly or I can pull out around them safely.

    I wouldn't undertake a vehicle indicating left when I'm driving my car so I'm certainly not going to when I'm cycling, especially when the result could be fatal.


  • #639
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,260 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    I had a close encounter with a very dangerous, unstable and angry motorist this morning.

    I was in a cycle lane, just approaching a left filter for cars, with the cycle lane staying right of the filter lane. The lights were red. A car came from behind me and pulled across the cycle lane. I had to go left to avoid the car. It kept forcing me left. I hit the car, the driver slowed and swiped the car even more left, I hit the car again he swiped left again at me and almost made contact, I nearly fell off, I hit the rear wing of the car, as I was now heading driven into a high kerb. The car then fully passed me and pulled right into the kerb to block my progress and then slammed on and stopped for no other reason than hoping I would run into the back of it.
    I managed to bunny hop the kerb and stopped on the pavement. The mororist had rolled down a window and started screaming "you should be in the cycle lane" I politely asked "Are you a Garda? You have no authority or right to police the road" They repeated the cycle lane comment and I politely told them I was in it before they bullied me out of it. The motorist was almost frothing at the mouth with anger and the tension had their eyes popping and neck muscles tense.
    They said something else which I won't put here but centred on them wishing they had hit me. At that point I said I was going to report them and they said "go ahead, report me, you fxxxxxg stupid cxxx, you should not be on the road, stupid fxxxxxg cyclist".
    At that stage I had pulled away. I don't know how I kept so calm as I was shaking. They tried to drive off and had the lights but another car pulled left in front of this vehicle preventing them from turning. I got a photo of the vehicle. Meanwhile another car had hung back behind at a distance and then rolled up alongside. Seen I was shaking. Asked me if I was ok. Said she seen what he did and I had done nothing wrong. I was in the cycle lane and they tried to take me out. I said it would be my word against theirs and said she would go witness. I tried to take her number but I could barely type. She asked for mine and rang my phone. Some nice people out there too. The irony of this is that the lights were red at the time this dangerous motortist tried to take me out. I really hope this driver gets what they truly deserve. They fully intended to knock me off and would have drove away too.


  • #640
    Pinch Flat
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    Sorry to hear than I would have struggled to stay calm. A lot of motorists wound up at the moment and the incessant media bashing of cyclists is no doubt to blame for fanning these flames. And it's a quiet week as well with the kids off school..


  • #641
    Annie get your Run
    Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Jesus :( that's beyond awful, I hope you're okay KS and here's hoping the motorist gets what they deserve. Glad to hear others stopped to help.


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  • #642
    Moflojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭Moflojo


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I had a close encounter with a very dangerous, unstable and angry motorist this morning. I got a photo of the vehicle. Meanwhile another car had hung back behind at a distance and then rolled up alongside. Seen I was shaking. Asked me if I was ok. Said she seen what he did and I had done nothing wrong. I was in the cycle lane and they tried to take me out. I said it would be my word against theirs and said she would go witness.

    Sorry to hear about this assault (with a deadly weapon) and I'm glad you're ok and that you have a willing witness to the incident.

    For all our sakes please, please follow this up with the Guards as thoroughly as possible because that driver is an active danger to all of us.

    Edit: Also, please report the incident on the Dublin Inquirer's Bicycle Collision tracker map, which has a 'near miss' category: http://www.dublininquirer.com/2015/10/20/bicycle-collision-tracker/


  • #643
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Just had a dangerous overtake....by a Garda patrol car. His retort when I asked why oh why would he overtake into oncoming traffic? "Wheres your helmet?". Didnt look happy.

    Was half tempted to put in a Traffic watch report, but not sure the local super would see the right side of that.


  • #644
    shootermacg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    ED E wrote: »
    Just had a dangerous overtake....by a Garda patrol car. His retort when I asked why oh why would he overtake into oncoming traffic? "Wheres your helmet?". Didnt look happy.

    Was half tempted to put in a Traffic watch report, but not sure the local super would see the right side of that.

    This guy need to be reported. If the guys up keeping the law don't have a clue, and lets face it most of them don't seem to, we are all damned!


  • #645
    papu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    Cyclist being attended to on Pearse Street after what looks to be a collision with a taxi just before the Dart Bridge.
    emergency services on scene.

    Edit : She was walked to the ambulance, bike and car do not look to be badly damaged

    Edit 2: looks like the taxi clipped the cyclist with his wingmirror..


  • #646
    Mercian Pro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Mercian Pro


    Moflojo wrote: »
    For all our sakes please, please follow this up with the Guards as thoroughly as possible because that driver is an active danger to all of us.

    And please let us know how you get on. It's very rare to have a willing independent witness so it will be interesting to see if the Guards act on this.


  • #647
    Danbo!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I don't know how I kept so calm as I was shaking.

    My blood pressure was rising just reading your post, well done for staying so calm


  • #648
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I had a close encounter with a very dangerous, unstable and angry motorist this morning.

    ....

    Holy Christ! I know you probably just want to put it behind you but I reiterate what others have said, please report it. If this is your daily commute, he may do the same to you again and you may not be as lucky next time :(
    What a pig. This awful attitude motorists have towards cyclists needs to stop and the only thing that is going to make the roads safer for cyclists is motorist education. Teaching people to slow down and be patient.

    When he told you that you shouldn't be on the road...I really, really wish you hadn't been so shook up so you could have retorted with ''no mate, it's YOU that shouldn't be on the road"

    Hope you're ok

    Crossing the road on Dorset street this evening at the NCR junction. A cyclist was proceeding down Dorset Street from Drumcondra, approaching the junction, she had a green light. There were no cars coming from her direction and 3 waiting to make the rigth turn from Dorset street on to NCR. She was at the big tree pub when the first one decided to turn, she braked and slowed...number two went through...she was still moving forward tentatively...and what dya know....number three turns and she nearly goes into him. All the while she had a green light and theirs green right turn filter wouldn't have come on yet. She was the last of the traffic to pass, the would have had to wait maybe 5 seconds max for her to clear the junction before they turned. :mad:

    She was wearing high viz and a helmet

    It was still bright out ~5pm


  • #649
    HivemindXX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭HivemindXX


    This is the limpet theory of driving. If the guy in front of me does it, then so long as I stick to his ass like a limpet I can too.

    When an oncoming car turns right in front of me with no margin for error I am always concerned that the one behind them, who hasn't even had a clear view of oncoming traffic, will assume it is safe for them to follow.


  • #650
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    What a pig. This awful attitude motorists have towards cyclists needs to stop and the only thing that is going to make the roads safer for cyclists is motorist education. Teaching people to slow down and be patient.

    I honestly think it's more than that. I think that the radio jocks and newspaper commentators spewing hatred of cyclists are responsible for this.

    If they are not stopped, drivers are going to become more and more dangerous.


  • #651
    jive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Had one this morning on the slip road right after Leeson bridge which leads to the top of Harcourt street (not sure of actual name, Adelaide road?). Wide enough road with parking on both sides, car went to overtake me with a van coming against us. I always leave a door-width to the parked cars so was not a close call for me really, the van driver wasn't impressed with the car.

    Needless to say with it being the city centre at 8.15am I went by the car again 200m up the road at the lights by the Luas tracks. I have to say there's something more annoying about the totally pointless ones.


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