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  • #3352
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Orebro wrote: »
    So out of those numbers alone you don't want to accommodate 20% of them? Why on earth would you do something like that?


    Where did I say I didn't want to accommodate them??


    I want the current & future DC chargers installed in a similar ratio.
    So for instance, J14, should be 6 CCS & 2 CHAdeMO (and I'm being generous with 2)

    the current sites with a 150kW & 50kW unit side by side (like Kilcullen/Galway Plaza/Athone etc...), should be 3 CCS to 1 CHAdeMO. a CHAdeMO plug should be nowhere near any of those 150kW units in my opinion.

    no more of this 50/50 CCS/CHAdeMO split anymore, as it heavily favours drivers of Nissan's


  • #3353
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Just looking at the EV sales figures for the first 2 months of 2021;

    CCS cars: 1,504
    CHAdeMO cars: 289

    CCS outselling CHAdeMO by a factor of 5.2/1 so far in 2021.

    will be very interesting so see how J14 Mayfield hub is configured....



    The old 'but there are still loads of Leaf's out there' argument gets thinner & thinner by the day when the number of CCS car sales (in just 2021 alone) is roughly 25% of the total number of Leaf's on Irish roads (a number of 5,000 was mentioned last year, but let's assume it's 6,000 as of now.).

    The tide has most definitely turned, yet eCars still insist on putting their towel down at the low tide marker.

    Totted up the nissan sales between 2011 - 2021. Accounts for 5948. 6k wasn't a bad guess.

    While the ratio of CHAdeMO : CCS cars on the road is wildly in favour of CCS now, perhaps that's the wrong metric to judge by. Leafs likely require more regular use of the charging network. Put those 2 together and you might say the split should be even!? But what about use cases. If I needed to drive motorways I certainly wouldn't buy a leaf.

    My stats say, over the last 2 weeks, CHAdeMO has been occupied 45.8% of the time. CCS the other 54.2% of the time, so the cars on the road don't map to the usage of the network. Though lockdown don't help.


  • #3354
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,925 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Totted up the nissan sales between 2011 - 2021. Accounts for 5948. 6k wasn't a bad guess.

    While the ratio of CHAdeMO : CCS cars on the road is wildly in favour of CCS now, perhaps that's the wrong metric to judge by. Leafs likely require more regular use of the charging network. Put those 2 together and you might say the split should be even!? But what about use cases. If I needed to drive motorways I certainly wouldn't buy a leaf.

    My stats say, over the last 2 weeks, CHAdeMO has been occupied 45.8% of the time. CCS the other 54.2% of the time, so the cars on the road don't map to the usage of the network. Though lockdown don't help.


    I feel like the best solution is to have 2x 50kW units with Chademo beside the HPCs to stop Leafs hogging the HPC plugs.

    Could use the same triple standard units they're installing at the moment, it'd be useful for slower charging CCS cars like the Zoe ZE50. They won't be overpaying for higher power they can't use in that case

    That's the way it seems to be done in Norway, a lot of the high power hubs will have a couple of 50kW units as well

    In the grand scheme of things it probably wouldn't add much extra costs to the hub

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3355
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I don't think anyone is arguing for the removal of CHAdeMO points, it's more of a stop expanding what we already have. Once a particular location has 2xCHAdeMO that's enough to remove the single point of failure problem and there's enough to service the current population.


  • #3356
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,925 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    liamog wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is arguing for the removal of CHAdeMO points, it's more of a stop expanding what we already have. Once a particular location has 2xCHAdeMO that's enough to remove the single point of failure problem and there's enough to service the current population.


    Agree but the problem is there's only 1 chademo in most locations now and there seems to be more focus in installing hubs and replacing AC units

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3357
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    liamog wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is arguing for the removal of CHAdeMO points, it's more of a stop expanding what we already have. Once a particular location has 2xCHAdeMO that's enough to remove the single point of failure problem and there's enough to service the current population.

    Stats don't agree though. Still 45% of in use DC charging sites are down to CHAdeMO. It's on the way down for sure, but since we've flip all DC units per site (95% of the time is just 1) we need more CHAdeMO, but more more CCS.

    The 4 unit hub will be a clear indicator of whether ecars are future proofing and being wise to the current climate of cars, or blindly just adding 50:50 split units. I don't *think* there's a need for any hub to have 4 CHAdeMO sockets, but no matter what ecars do, plenty will disagree. 50:50 is probably their safest option initial.


  • #3358
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Just a reminder, eCars pricing for High Power Chargers now gone up to 37c unit for pre-pay/PAYG and 33c for "members"


  • #3359
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,232 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Was that not what it always was?


  • #3360
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I think it's just the VAT change, the reduced rate only ran to the end of February.
    Actually, is that the case as I though charging was meant to be at a reduced rate anyway.


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  • #3361
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It was free and then 34.5 cent up to end of Feb, VAT change does not impact it AFAIK


  • #3362
    Kramer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    slave1 wrote: »
    Just a reminder, eCars pricing for High Power Chargers now gone up to 37c unit for pre-pay/PAYG and 33c for "members"

    Oh dear, Mad_Lad will be even more angry being forced to pay those extortionate rates, when his REx can only take 30kW (cold :p). Meanwhile, some tosser fellow EV driver is pulling 50kW from the 50kW DC charger next to him, paying less :pac:.


  • #3363
    Kramer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,227 ✭✭✭Kramer


    The penny has dropped in Italy - the sparse few Tesla & Ionity stations are not sufficient. They're rolling out a good motorway network of 4-6 car capable, 300kW+ HPC stations.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2021/03/01/italys-ev-charging-infrastructure-is-about-to-get-a-high-power-boost/

    I bet that'll be complete before eCars commission a second "hub" here :D.


  • #3364
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,925 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Kramer wrote: »
    The penny has dropped in Italy - the sparse few Tesla & Ionity stations are not sufficient. They're rolling out a good motorway network of 4-6 car capable, 300kW+ HPC stations.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2021/03/01/italys-ev-charging-infrastructure-is-about-to-get-a-high-power-boost/

    I bet that'll be complete before eCars commission a second "hub" here :D.

    I dunno, I used to work a few Italian folks who complained about how everything here works way better than back in Italy

    I kinda wish someone had gotten a picture of the look of shock on my face :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3365
    peposhi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭peposhi


    It looks like there are going to be 4 DCs at J14N7. I thought they’re installing 6...


  • #3366
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    peposhi wrote: »
    It looks like there are going to be 4 DCs at J14N7. I thought they’re installing 6...

    It’s supposedly 8 cars charging off 4 twin head units....

    And the spacing there between the conduits would back that claim up that it’s an 8 car hub..

    I’m guessing 4x CCS & 4x CHAdeMO


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  • #3367
    peposhi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭peposhi


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    It’s supposedly 8 cars charging off 4 twin head units....

    And the spacing there between the conduits would back that claim up that it’s an 8 car hub..

    I’m guessing 4x CCS & 4x CHAdeMO

    It was mentioned to me 6 chargers going in now and potentially expanded to 8. I guess I had some wires mixed up.
    From what I see on site it's got to be what you suggested or 3 units now (3x CHAdeMO, 3xCCS) and one ready to go but not installed.


  • #3368
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    It was always going to be 4 units, "8" cars. ESB confirmed it at the ievoa meeting, though they did butcher the slides making it initially sound like much more.
    No doubt socket parity, but hopefully that'll change as soon as they see the usage


  • #3369
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Only noticed there, ESB removed a load of charge point sites from their map/app last week. They look to all be ESB offices etc, so not publically available, but the total number of sites I now count is 777, which includes 114 3rd party sites like Qpark etc. Far far far from the "over 1000 units" which ESB regularly claims, or at least fudging the numbers be including private units in that "1000 units" claim.

    122 FCP sites
    541 SCP sites


    Note: Sites can have multiple units per site, but this isn't a concept ECars are very familiar with.


  • #3370
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Any updates from J14??? Anyone regularly pass there, or live close by that could go and spy the site?

    i'd imagine it'll still be largely only groundworks... and the charge units will be the last thing to be installed!


  • #3371
    KCross
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,136 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Only noticed there, ESB removed a load of charge point sites from their map/app last week. They look to all be ESB offices etc, so not publically available, but the total number of sites I now count is 777, which includes 114 3rd party sites like Qpark etc. Far far far from the "over 1000 units" which ESB regularly claims, or at least fudging the numbers be including private units in that "1000 units" claim.

    122 FCP sites
    541 SCP sites

    I'd suspect the 541 is actually considered 1082 since they each have 2 sockets?


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  • #3372
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    KCross wrote: »
    I'd suspect the 541 is actually considered 1082 since they each have 2 sockets?
    ESB operates and maintains approximately 1,100 public charge points across the island of Ireland.

    Could say the triple heads are 3 then. Number seems to be pulled somewhat from nowhere. They did have ~ 1000 charge point sites under their app at some point, but that's been doing down a lot of late.

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  • #3373
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Passed by the new Athlone "hub", looks ready to go?

    IMG-20210305-092400.jpg


  • #3374
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    slave1 wrote: »
    Passed by the new Athlone "hub", looks ready to go?

    IMG-20210305-092400.jpg

    Actually that's not too bad. I thought the units would be in the parking spaces, but that setup might just allow a leaf parking normally, and a CCS car doing gymnastics (depending on charge port accessibility) to both charge. ie. if the left bay is a leaf, and I pull up in my ioniq, I could park on the hashed lines to make the cable reach. I'd be blocking pedestrians, but that's the route ECars decided to go.


  • #3375
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    This site is live now on the app

    The 150kW is active, and the 50kW unit is unavailable for CCS/CHAdeMO (but the AC is showing green)


  • #3376
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I can see a situation where a car is parked in the middle space, plugged into AC, and abandoned for the day/night..... halving the usable plugs on the 150kW unit... while also causing issues for a CCS car's ability to use space '3' (CCS cars with charge port on left rear side).

    or can the 50kW unit only charge 1 car at a time (so if using AC, CCS/CHAdeMO are unavailable)? Otherwise why 3 spaces if 4 cars can charge simultaneously at that location???

    There should be 4 spaces and they should be marked as follows;
    Space 1: CCS/CHAdeMO-2
    Space 2: CCS/CHAdeMO-1
    Space 3: CCS/CHAdeMO/AC
    Space 4: AC Only

    The numbering on the CHAdeMO spaces is so that CHAdeMO-1 is the space a Leaf should take if they arrive and spaces 1 & 2 are both available, as it then keeps space 2 free for CCS cars, the majority of which have their charge port on the rear left side.


  • #3377
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    This site is live now on the app

    The 150kW is active, and the 50kW unit is unavailable for CCS/CHAdeMO (but the AC is showing green)

    All green now


  • #3378
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    All is not quiet.
    Over the last 2 weeks about 17 sites have had their old crappy AC units replaced with the new eVolve Smart T AC units.

    Glebe Street, Mohill, Leitrim
    The Square, Listowel, Kerry
    Irish Rail, Mary Street, Arklow, Wicklow
    Off Chapel Lane, Callan, Kilkenny
    Fair Green Car Park, Off Gaol Road, Kilkenny City, Kilkenny
    Market Square, Longford, Longford
    Parnell Square West, Outside Rotunda Hospital, Dublin 1
    Finglas Road, Dublin, Dublin 11
    Greenhills Road, Walkinstown, Dublin 12
    Main Street, Bailieborough, Cavan
    Kincora Road, Clontarf, Dublin 3
    Sportsfield Road, Sneem, Kerry
    Thorncastle Street, Ringsend, Dublin 4 X2
    Irish Rail Dalkey DART Station, Ardeveehan Road, Dalkey, Dublin X2
    Town Centre Car Park, Off Main Street, Roscommon Town, Roscommon X2
    Greek Street, Dublin 1
    Mark Street, Dublin 2

    Only 175+ units to go to replace those unreliable ones.
    No fast units though, and they've only delivered 17 of the 50 promised AC->DC upgrades so far. The initial list of AC->DC units to be converted has been completed though, hopefully IEVOA can get a fresh set of plans from ECars.

    I should probably keep this more up to date.

    245 of the newer 22kW AC units are now in place.
    153 of the old units yet to be replaced, and 21 of those single socket AC units to be replaced too.

    A rough idea of what's been upgraded since the middle of January:

    AC updates to the new Evolve Smart T unit 153 remaining
    Glebe Street, Mohill, Leitrim
    Greenhills Road, Walkinstown, Dublin 12
    Irish Rail Dalkey DART Station, Ardeveehan Road, Dalkey, Dublin
    Irish Rail, Mary Street, Arklow, Wicklow
    Main Street, Bailieborough, Cavan
    Main Street, Stranorlar, Donegal
    Hospital Car Park, Kilmacrennan Road, Letterkenny, Donegal
    St. Agnes Road, Crumlin, Dublin 12
    Public Car Parking, Finnegan's Way, Off Castle Street, Trim, Meath
    Irish Rail, Church Street, Athenry, Galway
    Earlsfort Terrace, Dublin 2
    Rathfarnham Shopping Centre
    Bus Station Car Park, Donore Road, Drogheda, Louth
    North Wall Quay, Dublin 1
    Irish Rail Blackrock DART Station, Bath Place, Blackrock, Dublin
    Irish Rail, Carrickmacross Road, Dundalk, Louth
    Supervalu Car Park, Off Kickham Street, Clonmel, Tipperary
    Chelmsford Road, Ranelagh, Dublin 6
    Public Car Park, Kennedy Street, Carlow Town, Carlow
    Public Car Park, East End, Kilkee, Clare
    Off Society Street, Ballinasloe, Galway
    Irish Rail, Station Rd, Portlaoise, Co. Laois
    Louis Convent, Castle Street, Carrickmacross, Monaghan
    Cork County Hall, Carrigrohane Road, Sunday's Well, Cork City, Cork
    Milk Market, Mungret Court, Limerick City, Limerick
    Public Car Park, Off Wellington Place-Redmond Place, Wexford Town, Wexford
    Abbey Street, Wexford, Wexford
    Davitts Quay, Dungarvan, Waterford
    Kenmare Road, Glengariff, Cork
    95 Glanmire Road, Cork City, Cork
    The Green, Sixmilebridge, Clare
    Pery Street, Limerick City, Limerick

    AC units upgraded to DC - 19 of the 50 delivered
    Ballymahon Road, Athlone, Westmeath

    New FCP
    Kilmartin N6 Service Station, Dublin road, Athlone, Co.Westmeath, Ireland


  • #3379
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    I can see a situation where a car is parked in the middle space, plugged into AC, and abandoned for the day/night..... halving the usable plugs on the 150kW unit... while also causing issues for a CCS car's ability to use space '3' (CCS cars with charge port on left rear side).

    or can the 50kW unit only charge 1 car at a time (so if using AC, CCS/CHAdeMO are unavailable)? Otherwise why 3 spaces if 4 cars can charge simultaneously at that location???

    There should be 4 spaces and they should be marked as follows;
    Space 1: CCS/CHAdeMO-2
    Space 2: CCS/CHAdeMO-1
    Space 3: CCS/CHAdeMO/AC
    Space 4: AC Only

    The numbering on the CHAdeMO spaces is so that CHAdeMO-1 is the space a Leaf should take if they arrive and spaces 1 & 2 are both available, as it then keeps space 2 free for CCS cars, the majority of which have their charge port on the rear left side.

    I agree with your line of thinking but with current length of cable and charge ports all over the place on EV's who knows what Tetris could be involved


  • #3380
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,729 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    slave1 wrote: »
    I agree with your line of thinking but with current length of cable and charge ports all over the place on EV's who knows what Tetris could be involved

    Yeah there's no real perfect solution (or maybe there is), but there is a solution that's better than how ecars currently lay out their sites....

    2 Leaf's could park in space 1 and 2 there at that site, and block out all CCS options... while both taking the full 45 minutes....


  • #3381
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,925 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    slave1 wrote: »
    I agree with your line of thinking but with current length of cable and charge ports all over the place on EV's who knows what Tetris could be involved


    I think this is why the fuel forecourt design wins out IMO


    Car makers never agreed which side the fuel cap goes on so fuel stations have hoses on either side


    EV chargers should be the same, plugs either side, CCS only 1 side and CCS/Chademo the other

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • #3382
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭McGiver


    So how's the expansion going?

    How many new FCPs have been installed in last 12 months?

    5?

    Instead of using Covid intermission to install as much as possible with basically no disruption due to low traffic etc they did feck all.


  • #3383
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Has to be more than 5, 3 in Athlone alone


  • #3384
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    McGiver wrote: »
    So how's the expansion going?

    How many new FCPs have been installed in last 12 months?

    5?

    Instead of using Covid intermission to install as much as possible with basically no disruption due to low traffic etc they did feck all.

    Lots of new fcp. Kells, Westport, clifden, ballina, Dingle, kenmare, Athlone X 3, Galway city, one up in Donegal I think, dungarvan, Waterford city, clonmel. Those are just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

    If you're asking about new sites, then yeah, it's much less. Pretty much just the hubs, though I can't exactly remember when they came online.


  • #3385
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Lots of new fcp. Kells, Westport, clifden, ballina, Dingle, kenmare, Athlone X 3, Galway city, one up in Donegal I think, dungarvan, Waterford city, clonmel. Those are just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

    If you're asking about new sites, then yeah, it's much less. Pretty much just the hubs, though I can't exactly remember when they came online.

    That's 12. Are these additions or replacements?
    I'm asking about new chargers/connectors, not replacements.

    Edit: or in other words - how many CCS connectors are there now in the ecars network vs 12 months ago.


  • #3386
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Actually that's not too bad. I thought the units would be in the parking spaces, but that setup might just allow a leaf parking normally, and a CCS car doing gymnastics (depending on charge port accessibility) to both charge. ie. if the left bay is a leaf, and I pull up in my ioniq, I could park on the hashed lines to make the cable reach. I'd be blocking pedestrians, but that's the route ECars decided to go.
    It's balls. Regardless.
    cruisey1987 wrote: »
    I think this is why the fuel forecourt design wins out IMO
    Exactly...

    This is how you do it... Switzerland federal government is building 100 of these hubs at rest areas on the federal core motorway network. Requirements are multiple FCPs, on site battery storage and pAYG payments with all cards available in Switzerland.

    gofast_oftringen_schweiz.jpg


  • #3387
    peposhi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭peposhi


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Lots of new fcp. Kells, Westport, clifden, ballina, Dingle, kenmare, Athlone X 3, Galway city, one up in Donegal I think, dungarvan, Waterford city, clonmel. Those are just the ones I can think off the top of my head.

    If you're asking about new sites, then yeah, it's much less. Pretty much just the hubs, though I can't exactly remember when they came online.

    Tullamore got an FCP too now


  • #3388
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Two in Athlone are Brand New, a 150 high power and a 50 rapid, the third was a dual 22kW which was replaced with a 44 rapid


  • #3389
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    If you include the new service station then Athlone has (via various providers)

    4 x 350kW
    1 x 150kW
    3 x 50kW
    1 x 44kW
    4 x 22kW


  • #3390
    peposhi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭peposhi


    slave1 wrote: »
    If you include the new service station then Athlone has (via various providers)

    4 x 350kW
    1 x 150kW
    3 x 50kW
    1 x 44kW
    4 x 22kW

    Where are the 4x350kW located, slave1?


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  • #3391
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    McGiver wrote: »
    That's 12. Are these additions or replacements?
    I'm asking about new chargers/connectors, not replacements.

    Edit: or in other words - how many CCS connectors are there now in the ecars network vs 12 months ago.

    New, mostly replacing AC units. Those are the 12 I can think of. I'll pull some facts later on for you sire.


  • #3392
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    I don't have this data (readily available) as far back as March 2020, but in August 2020 there were 113 fast charge points on the island of Ireland. Today there are 126.

    I'll see can I get more info from March 2020 to today later.


  • #3393
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    peposhi wrote: »
    Where are the 4x350kW located, slave1?

    They're Ionity chargers and being discussed over here,

    Moved Ionity Discussion to Ionity thread https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=110860447


  • #3394
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Irish rail got a few new units. Not new sites, just new units.
    Irish rail Charleville,
    Irish rail Mallow,
    Irish rail Tullamore

    McCurtain Street Car Park also got a new evolve smart T AC unit.


  • #3395
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,883 ✭✭✭zg3409


    slave1 wrote: »
    I agree with your line of thinking but with current length of cable and charge ports all over the place on EV's who knows what Tetris could be involved

    4 spaces are needed at a minimum. This 3 spaces between 2 chargers is crazy.
    Ideally I would like to see chargers in flower bed with long cables at 4 spaces either side (8 total) so ICEing and abandoning is very unlikely

    The effort and cost and then put the two chargers so close together that the middle spot is shared between the two is madness, particularly where there is ample spaces right beside, unlike some petrol stations where every parking spot is a very limited resource.


  • #3396
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,232 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Or just build them like truck diesel stops. This is the way its going.
    Like fastned, tesla etc.


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  • #3397
    AndyBoBandy
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    Has anyone been through J14/Mayfield recently? Anyone passing by soon want to take a spin in and snap a few photos for us???

    We’re almost in April, and they’ve been at it for a while now.
    Would love to see what units are going in, and are they even in yet.....

    You’d also wonder why they aren’t doing similar in at least another few sites on the network.....


  • #3398
    the_amazing_raisin
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    There hasn't been much movement on replacing the other chargers so I'm thinking ESB has all their staff working on the J14 hub

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3399
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    the_amazing_raisin wrote: »
    There hasn't been much movement on replacing the other chargers so I'm thinking ESB has all their staff working on the J14 hub

    AFAIK the charger replacements are done by local engineers, contractors, not necessarily ESB staff. That's only from the brief experience i've had with 1.

    There is work being done though.

    As I posted on the 15th March:
    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Irish rail got a few new units. Not new sites, just new units.
    Irish rail Charleville,
    Irish rail Mallow,
    Irish rail Tullamore

    McCurtain Street Car Park also got a new evolve smart T AC unit.

    Since that these too have had new 22kW AC units installed to replace the old unreliable ones.
    Strand Road, Bray, Wicklow
    Main Street, Dundrum, Dublin 14
    County Hall Car Park, Off Maudlin Street, Kilkenny City, Kilkenny
    Public Car Park, Off South Street, New Ross, Wexford
    Irish Rail Plunkett Station, Dock Road, Abbeylands, Waterford
    Irish Rail Car Park, Portarlington, Co. Laois
    Yeats Tavern & Davis' Restaurant, Sligo-Bundoran Road (N15), Drumcliffe, Sligo

    About 1 per working day.


  • #3400
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,925 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    AFAIK the charger replacements are done by local engineers, contractors, not necessarily ESB staff. That's only from the brief experience i've had with 1.

    There is work being done though.

    As I posted on the 15th March:


    Since that these too have had new 22kW AC units installed to replace the old unreliable ones.
    Strand Road, Bray, Wicklow
    Main Street, Dundrum, Dublin 14
    County Hall Car Park, Off Maudlin Street, Kilkenny City, Kilkenny
    Public Car Park, Off South Street, New Ross, Wexford
    Irish Rail Plunkett Station, Dock Road, Abbeylands, Waterford
    Irish Rail Car Park, Portarlington, Co. Laois
    Yeats Tavern & Davis' Restaurant, Sligo-Bundoran Road (N15), Drumcliffe, Sligo

    About 1 per working day.


    Good stuff, I figured ESB had a group of contractors doing all their work and were concentrating on J4 but it looks like there's plenty going on in the background


    Still waiting on those 2nd DC chargers at the M1 service stations, however :rolleyes:

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • #3401
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,385 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    the_amazing_raisin wrote: »
    Good stuff, I figured ESB had a group of contractors doing all their work and were concentrating on J4 but it looks like there's plenty going on in the background


    Still waiting on those 2nd DC chargers at the M1 service stations, however :rolleyes:

    I've heard nothing about M1 getting any updates, sadly.

    The only 2 publicly mentioned planned "hubs" are these:
    Ballinalack, Co Westmeath (N4)
    Lahey, Co Donegal

    List of all the 22kW units to be replaced. This doesn't seem to list all the units currently using EBG - Highline BM AC units (the old ****e ones).
    https://www.esb.ie/docs/default-source/ecars/replacement-charger-locations892b632d46d164eb900aff0000c22e36

    Source: https://www.esb.ie/ecars/our-network/network-upgrades


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