Liffey valley SC loads of units closed

average_runner · 30-10-2018 11:48am

Yosef Glamorous Watercress wrote: »

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Debenhams will be gone so and Perkins is at risk. Alot more shops will shut in Blanch after xmas.

c6ysaphjvqw41k · 30-10-2018 11:49am

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AndrewJRenko · 30-10-2018 12:19pm

Drifter50 wrote: »

Don`t know where all the shoppers went this weekend. I was in Carrickmines on Friday evening and it was like a ghost centre. Dundrum did`nt seem busy for traffic either

I was in Dundrum late Saturday afternoon, about 5-6pm and it was buzzing, seemed much busier than usual for that time.

AMKC · 30-10-2018 12:22pm

Stealthirl wrote: »

Vue went to ****e when they revamped, Odeon Blanch is vastly better [and cheaper]

I agree that when Vue took over Ster Century it went crap but since the revamp its way better. The staff are friendly and the screens are not bad either. Sure they are a bit soulless but there is a place in town that is even worse now.

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Why? What's happening in January?

January is a very slow month for most places and there is a lot of uncertainty in the UK now as well with Brexit which also means these company's are getting it harder to get loans and funding to keep going.

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-10-2018 12:26pm

Yosef Glamorous Watercress wrote: »

So I heard this morning. Very disappointing. Might have to start going into town for choice when shopping.

No harm if it quietens the place down a bit. It's only to be avoided these days, no matter what shops.

L1011 · 30-10-2018 8:04pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Why? What's happening in January?

Retailers in poor financial condition go pop every January. Hold on to get the cashflow and giftcard sales from Christmas, call in the liquidator/pull down the shutters before the returns and giftcard spends start. If Christmas sales are poor and they were being relied on to keep the lights on that accelerates it. Take a look back at the list of big retailers to close down in recent years and the bulk call in the receivers in January or sometimes even December

A few retailers are clearly already wobbling. UK consumer confidence is in the ditch, the ONS are having to scrabble around to make it look like their economy isn't as bad as it is. Any retailer already suffering is likely to have quite a bad Christmas.

It won't just be normal retail - casual dining is in bits in the UK too and again places will be holding on for Christmas parties and voucher sales. Broke/"Dry" January really hits them hard annually anyway

Don't buy gift cards for Christmas. If you get one from someone, spend it immediately.

A gift card is basically saying to someone that you don't trust them with cash and couldn't think of a present otherwise. Just give them the cash.

r93kaey5p2izun · 30-10-2018 8:16pm

I detest Liffey Valley. It's the most dreadful shopping centre. I live very close by but haven't been inside the main centre in over a year. I meet a friend for lunch there once a week and for the past few years that meant walking in the middle doors and straight up the escalator to the food court, avoiding the nightmare shopping area. But since the separate food section opened I don't even have to go that far. I didn't even know so many shops had closed but I'm not surprised to hear that.

L1011 · 30-10-2018 8:19pm

Alison Ambitious Guava wrote: »

I didn't even know so many shops had closed but I'm not surprised to hear that.

The majority of it was one chain pulling all their shops out - they had multiple large two story units in a row.

Then Head Records has been closed since January 2018, think there's one opposite too

http://www.retailresearch.org/whosegonebust.php has UK failures, forgot two of the big names struggled on til February this year!

Capt'n Midnight · 31-10-2018 2:44am

the_syco wrote: »

Renting it to someone for lower rent may piss off the long term tenants.

There is also the problem that the value of the asset is a multiple of the rent you can charge for it.

If rents go down then the unit isn't worth as much on the balance sheet and that affects the credit rating of the landlord.

unkel · 31-10-2018 10:38pm

FWIW, the queues on the N4 inbound LV exit were unreal last Friday afternoon (4:45PM). Only really see it busier than that around Christmas. People got paid, bank holiday?

ongarboy · 01-11-2018 12:49am

emo72 wrote: »

anewme wrote: »

My point is ive never seen it in an actual shop unit before.

I thought it was outside in the middle of the mall.. it's taking up a whole shop unit now - between that and the Halloween shop, that's 2 kinds of "nothing" filler shops beside each other.

I thought it was always a stall too. Never seen it in an actual shop unit.

Any truth to the rumour that Zara is taking a large unit down there?

Zara only announced this week that sales in their Irish stores are booming so I could very well see them eyeing up a unit in Liffey Valley. Surprised they're not there already.

average_runner · 05-11-2018 10:00am

I see Carraig Donn is opening in one of the free spots by Marks.
Golden disc is now where Head was.
Pippa O'Connor shop(pop for 3-6 months) opening by Marks.

Berserker · 05-11-2018 11:55am

beauf wrote: »

The issue with online shopping is not simply price.

Lots of stores are all just stocking the same narrow range of stuff.

Often you can't find what you want in a bricks and mortar store so you'be no alternative but to go online.

My OH had a classic example with Zara a few weeks back. She was looking to buy a pair of boots that she saw in London. Tried the stores in the city centre and Blanch but couldn't find them. Ended up getting them online and using using their in store delivery. Came across a whole lot of options for both of us online that weren't in the stores. Didn't realise that Zara had such a selection of men's clothing.

average_runner wrote: »

I see Carraig Donn is opening in one of the free spots by Marks.
Golden disc is now where Head was.
Pippa O'Connor shop(pop for 3-6 months) opening by Marks.

Was in there yesterday and noticed the Golden discs has opened in the same unit as the existing music/Dvd shop. That season Halloween shop adds nothing to the centre.

average_runner · 05-11-2018 3:22pm

Berserker wrote: »

My OH had a classic example with Zara a few weeks back. She was looking to buy a pair of boots that she saw in London. Tried the stores in the city centre and Blanch but couldn't find them. Ended up getting them online and using using their in store delivery. Came across a whole lot of options for both of us online that weren't in the stores. Didn't realise that Zara had such a selection of men's clothing.

Was in there yesterday and noticed the Golden discs has opened in the same unit as the existing music/Dvd shop. That season Halloween shop adds nothing to the centre.

It was great for the kids, we got all we wanted for halloween. It will close now.

Berserker · 05-11-2018 10:57pm

average_runner wrote: »

It was great for the kids, we got all we wanted for halloween. It will close now.

Not think it'll move to Christmas stock now? Apologies for my married with no kids bias, didn't think of the little'uns.

rev2.0 · 05-11-2018 11:33pm

ongarboy wrote: »

Zara only announced this week that sales in their Irish stores are booming so I could very well see them eyeing up a unit in Liffey Valley. Surprised they're not there already.

Family friend worked in one of the Arcadia stores before made redundant- the staff were informed that Zara were replacing them in LV...

average_runner · 06-11-2018 10:26pm

Berserker wrote: »

Not think it'll move to Christmas stock now? Apologies for my married with no kids bias, didn't think of the little'uns.

Gotta to love xmas.

Each to their own. Different shops for all

07-11-2018 10:28pm

Surprised it wasn't in the media but the I connect store in liffey valley was ramraided in the early hours of today, car driven in through the doors beside next, then around into the shop, cleared it and back out.again!

average_runner · 08-11-2018 2:25pm

5500 wrote: »

Surprised it wasn't in the media but the I connect store in liffey valley was ramraided in the early hours of today, car driven in through the doors beside next, then around into the shop, cleared it and back out.again!

Where was the 24 hour security? Thought there was bollards in front of the door?

ArthurG · 08-11-2018 7:11pm

5500 wrote: »

Surprised it wasn't in the media but the I connect store in liffey valley was ramraided in the early hours of today, car driven in through the doors beside next, then around into the shop, cleared it and back out.again!

Can't find any mention of this whatsoever on tinternet.

08-11-2018 10:41pm

Very surprised its not mentioned anywhere, the door beside next/marks had big wooden hoarding blocking it up yesterday, iconnect shop front glass was just about all gone too and shop blocked off, it was fairly obvious something had happened.

I don't think there were bollards blocking the door there, there's bollards around that area but obviously enough room to get a car past or they took the bollards down on the way in

Stealthirl · 15-11-2018 4:01am

average_runner wrote: »

Where was the 24 hour security?

Probably penny pinching and only having 1 or 2 on overnight or relying on mobile patrols

anewme · 18-11-2018 4:14pm

Flye fit opening a 20,000 sq ft gym down beside Clayton Hôtel

Berserker · 18-11-2018 4:43pm

Christmas shop opened in the same unit as the Halloween shop.

Elemonator · 18-11-2018 4:53pm

Retail is dying completely. I work for a major British retailer for university beer money and the CEO wrote to the company saying that retail sales have fallen nearly 7% this year but online sales have increased by 17%.

L1011 · 18-11-2018 7:29pm

Elemonator wrote: »

Retail is dying completely. I work for a major British retailer for university beer money and the CEO wrote to the company saying that retail sales have fallen nearly 7% this year but online sales have increased by 17%.

UK is far, far darker than Ireland for sales currently. Online is still growing here but our economy isn't in a death spiral and pretending not to be - the UKs is. And we still seem to cling to the social aspect of retail a bit more. Golden Discs are probably the only music retailer in the western world adding stores for starters.

average_runner · 19-11-2018 12:30pm

L1011 wrote: »

UK is far, far darker than Ireland for sales currently. Online is still growing here but our economy isn't in a death spiral and pretending not to be - the UKs is. And we still seem to cling to the social aspect of retail a bit more. Golden Discs are probably the only music retailer in the western world adding stores for starters.

I agree our economy is growing, just not in the old ways. I know tax returns for companies is up as friends work in that area.

Business need to should down the big stores, open pop ones with less staff and just sell online, their profit margins will go up

Elemonator · 19-11-2018 2:26pm

L1011 wrote: »

UK is far, far darker than Ireland for sales currently. Online is still growing here but our economy isn't in a death spiral and pretending not to be - the UKs is. And we still seem to cling to the social aspect of retail a bit more. Golden Discs are probably the only music retailer in the western world adding stores for starters.

Good point. I know retailers here are staying in retail but are shifting to more profitable space, Next are opening a superstore in Arnotts in the near future.

Berserker · 19-11-2018 3:05pm

average_runner wrote: »

Business need to should down the big stores, open pop ones with less staff and just sell online, their profit margins will go up

Zara seem to have gone this way. Have had two few instances where items were listed online but not in stores. Even had one instance at the weekend where an item was listed as available in one of their stores but it wasn't on display when we went in to get it. Ended up asking one of the members of staff, who confirmed that they had it and she got it for us from their stock room. It was a newly (last month) listed item on their site.

anewme · 21-12-2018 9:09am

Was there yesterday and the place was heaving.

The queue for Gift Vouchers was miles long.

Did anyone see that stall selling "mind boggling chocolate". My niece cried for a "screwdriver ', it was 5 euro and then the child would not eat it, as it was oily and greasy. They even look like that.

Further down was a stand selling "your photo on a block of wood". Why on earth anyone want a photo on a bit of a 4 x 2.

At Christmas you can sell anything.

Berserker · 21-12-2018 4:50pm

Was in there from late this morning til early afternoon and the place was crazy. Had to drive to the M&S carpark to get parking. That 'block of wood' stand had a big queue at it when I passed. The queues for the vouchers and Santa beside it, I suspect, were very long. Didn't need to go to either, thankfully.

Hotblack Desiato · 22-12-2018 12:08am

Fools and their money!

munsterbear · 28-12-2018 11:37pm

Heard today that the Elms, old Arc Bar is closing. Apartments going to be build there.

unkel · 29-12-2018 10:59pm

Really? That place seemed to be busy enough. Also got the offo and Lemon Grass. Still quite a bit of greenfields around there, it doesn't make sense to bulldoze down a going concern to make space.

dhaughton99 · 29-12-2018 11:49pm

Was down on thursday evening and quite busy but can probably expect that due to the sale. It’s the only reason I was there. Bought nothing but a mc Donald’s and a few hangers from penny’s. Would have bought an M&S jumper for €75 but decided to see would it go down a bit more online as can also get a €10 off for email newsletter.

Didn’t notice any places shuttered. Noticed carraig dunn has a pop up for Xmas beside Next.

I must say that any staff that I had any interactions with, were very pleasant and cheerful. Especially the security staff member who was stopping customers going into the centre when it closed. Very charming man.

OldMrBrennan83 · 29-12-2018 11:51pm

Didn't realise the Arc was still there, a real Celtic Tiger one that. Had never seen a velvet rope at a pub before.

anewme · 30-12-2018 12:28am

Wonder how true are these rumours?

Work nearby and it's busy during lunch trade.

They had tried initially to have an "exclusive"trade but that was not possible due to the locality and the evening/weekend trade.

Original owners now own Hudson Rooms at the LV centre which is busy.

judeboy101 · 30-12-2018 8:37am

Are there more car show rooms been built at roundabout beside arc bar?

anewme · 30-12-2018 9:06am

judeboy101 wrote: »

Are there more car show rooms been built at roundabout beside arc bar?

No they are fast food joints going up there...

judeboy101 · 30-12-2018 10:06am

anewme wrote: »

No they are fast food joints going up there...

Weird size on the smaller two, I'm assuming kfc/bk . McDonalds hardly putting another one. Great location

anewme · 30-12-2018 10:32am

judeboy101 wrote: »

Weird size on the smaller two, I'm assuming kfc/bk . McDonalds hardly putting another one. Great location

Yep!

The original plans indicate the four units to be occupied are Costa, KFC, Burger King and Sbarro Pizza.....with drive thru options...

then a massive gym across from li!

judeboy101 · 30-12-2018 11:47am

anewme wrote: »

Yep!

The original plans indicate the four units to be occupied are Costa, KFC, Burger King and Sbarro Pizza.....with drive thru options...

then a massive gym across from li!

Sbarro, nice.

Casey78 · 30-12-2018 11:57am

anewme wrote: »

Yep!

The original plans indicate the four units to be occupied are Costa, KFC, Burger King and Sbarro Pizza.....with drive thru options...

then a massive gym across from li!

Drive thru Pizza? How does that work, genuine question BTW. Would have thought it would take too long to cook pizza for it to be a drive thru.

anewme · 30-12-2018 12:06pm

Casey78 wrote: »

Drive thru Pizza? How does that work, genuine question BTW. Would have thought it would take too long to cook pizza for it to be a drive thru.

No idea - it did not say on the update on planning in the local paper which (or if all) of them had drive thru's ..Don't know too much about that Sbarro pizza, saw it in Newbridge once and it was pre cooked slices, so perhaps it's that.

Would not think Costa wioukd be drive through either so maybe just BK and KFC.

judeboy101 · 30-12-2018 12:54pm

anewme wrote: »

No idea - it did not say on the update on planning in the local paper which (or if all) of them had drive thru's ..Don't know too much about that Sbarro pizza, saw it in Newbridge once and it was pre cooked slices, so perhaps it's that.

Would not think Costa wioukd be drive through either so maybe just BK and KFC.

Pre cooked slices and made to order,. No body thought drive tru donuts would work lol

Berserker · 30-12-2018 3:34pm

judeboy101 wrote: »

Pre cooked slices and made to order,. No body thought drive tru donuts would work lol

Where are the drive thru donuts?

OldMrBrennan83 · 30-12-2018 3:36pm

Berserker wrote: »

Where are the drive thru donuts?

Blanchardstown. The Krispy Kreme where they had about 50 cars queueing for the drive thru around 2am and had to change it away from being 24hr within the first month.

That said, it'll be closed before 2019 is out.

anewme · 30-12-2018 9:12pm

there's a donut place in Liffey valley near boots and someone came in the other day with a box of donuts.

Usually stuff like this is scoffed and if you are not there at that minute, you miss out. but surprisingly a (full) donut was left on my desk in a plate.

It was Bacon and maple syrup and was left due be becayse "you eat fancy stuff" but the reality is none of the others would eat it.

What happened to a good old jam
donut- with the jam in the middle and the little bumps from the fryer! They were the best! Think Elite bakery in Maynooth still do them!

Seth Brundle · 30-12-2018 10:44pm

anewme wrote: »

What happened to a good old jam
donut- with the jam in the middle and the little bumps from the fryer! They were the best! Think Elite bakery in Maynooth still do them!

You can't beat the Superquinn/SuperValu jam donuts!

Spanish Eyes · 30-12-2018 10:49pm

Liffey V is turning into a US style Mall.

Car essential. Go figure.

Everything can be delivered now, but online sales will kill this and other places,

Unless you want/need to be seen there like Dundrum etc. Mad Ted.

Liffey valley SC loads of units closed

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