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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Yes - as we said on here very early on.

    The taging was going to be gone.

    Now that is a product.

    Edit.
    No, looked it up there - a few annoying features too. Still not perfect. Review below.

    Cons:
    - this app requires constant attention while you play. I had my phone in my back pocket on my 3rd time playing with the app. The shot tracker was 4 holes behind by the time I realized. Tracking that round was shot.
    - the putting is horrible. It consistently had me taking 3 or 4 puts when I would have less than that. Furthermore, you can't even tell which puts were real and which ones were phantoms. I made this point to tech support, they said to try only replicating the putting stroke while putting to avoid false positives.. Maybe it's me, but when I'm playing golf, I don't want to have to worry about what I'm doing while preparing to hit.
    - stats related to the green just don't seem correct, related I'm sure to the poor putting experience.

    Yep look far from perfect and id imagine this product will be improved upon within the next 6 - 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,344 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Fair enough.

    But PARlance - would you buy game golf - or get 5 lessons ?

    Is that not obvious? :)

    Five good lessons would be far more beneficial for me.
    Game golf won't do you any harm, unless it messes with your pre shot rountine, but I just couldn't justify the cost or the hassle. The only thing that I've seen that I would really llike is the %'s surrounding the short game.

    I would like to think that I'm becoming more and more aware of the weaknesses in my game and working on them. I also think I've a good grasp of my distances. So I can't really see me buying it tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Problem I don't know if I want it cause I like technology and gimmicks or whether I actually want it to help me improve my game :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    shaunac93 wrote: »
    Problem I don't know if I want it cause I like technology and gimmicks or whether I actually want it to help me improve my game :/

    I'm a little bit in this camp.

    I got it as a Christmas present, and more because I didn't really need anything in particular & like golf & gadgets.

    For me, one of the benefits is for adding stats on courses that are not my home course. After a round on my home course I will, generally speaking, be able to recall every shot & I tended to track my own stats in a spreadsheet. I can't do this so easily on a course I've played for the first time.

    Now I can pull my numbers on any course I play & start building a more rounded picture of my game.

    As people have mentioned over time it will start to give some more meaningful numbers on my clubs. Yes, I have a reasonable understanding now of how far I hit each club but am as guilty as all other golfers in overestimating my distances.

    Maybe it won't make me a better golfer, certainly lessons would be better for technique, but I'm a bit of a maths nerd, like stats & love golf so its a good combo for me.

    One thing I can see from it already is that I'm more likely to hit close from 120 yrds than 90 yrds, which makes me think more in terms of club chase to get into the scoring zone.

    I'm hoping that there will be more insights going forwards, but I certainly don't think it's going to hurt my game having more information to work with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Thanks space, after your input I really think I will get it. Now that I'm playing more away courses I think it will b worth it.

    What I think I will find most useful is actual club distances although I think I know mine fairly well and best layup distances.

    Thanks again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    One other thing... You can also compare your underwhelming game golf stats to those that some pros are hitting :D

    You get numbers for GMac, Westwood & Furyk every time they put up a round on it


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    shaunac93 wrote: »
    Thanks space, after your input I really think I will get it. Now that I'm playing more away courses I think it will b worth it.

    What I think I will find most useful is actual club distances although I think I know mine fairly well and best layup distances.

    Thanks again

    Get it, it's cool, this is what your drive stats will look like after 20 rounds of winter plugging off the tee!

    30ifeaf.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    Have gamegolf, but this looks similar but better!

    https://arccosgolf.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Lance Murdock


    $400. Yikes


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭Edmundy


    Some useful playing stats....................

    A scratch golfer hits an average of 12 greens in regulation, 81% of the fairways, has 29.0 putts, 3.2 birdies per round and 11.8 pars per round.

    A golfer that averages a score of 85 hits 5 greens in regulation, 46% of fairways, has 33.7 total putts, 0.8 birdies per round, and 6.6 pars.

    A golfer that averages a score of 100 hits 0 greens in regulation, 11% of fairways, has 38.3 putts, 0 birdies, and 1.3 pars.

    So the biggest differences are greens in regulation, fairways and putts. In other words, everything! The easiest shots to shave off your score are found in the short game. Chipping, pitching, and putting don't require tremendous swing speed or physical ability. Plus, they can be practiced in your back yard or living room. Having a reliable tee shot that lands in the fairway is important as well. Finding the short grass off the tee is much more important than distance, especially for high handicappers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Is there anyway to add shots to a hole that you forgot to tag and the device never picked up on. Forgot to tag on all the par 3's today :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    shaunac93 wrote: »
    Is there anyway to add shots to a hole that you forgot to tag and the device never picked up on. Forgot to tag on all the par 3's today :/

    When you click on any shot on a hole it should open up a couple of options such as add penalty, delete shot, add shot.

    Pick add shot, and it'll ask you to select a club. You can move the position of the shot around from there


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    shaunac93 wrote: »
    Is there anyway to add shots to a hole that you forgot to tag and the device never picked up on. Forgot to tag on all the par 3's today :/

    Ha ha, was wondering on such a low round! Tagging takes a few rounds to get used to, always better to double tag if you're not sure, like SC pointed out you can amend when you get home. Rarely miss a tag now...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Thanks lads...actually had to click add hole on the score card and work from there. Couldn't just amend hole cause it hadn't detected and shots on the hole.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Jim's round from The Masters Par 3 contest yesterday...

    http://www.gamegolf.com/player/jmfloop/round/14938


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭neckedit


    slave1 wrote: »
    Jim's round from The Masters Par 3 contest yesterday...

    http://www.gamegolf.com/player/jmfloop/round/14938

    I;m loving seeing all these Game Golf links.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    Seen a couple of these for sale on adverts. Makes me wonder why there being sold. Is it a gimic you play with for a while and then throw there.
    Anyone have any negative to say about this device?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭Dr.Rieux


    Seen a couple of these for sale on adverts. Makes me wonder why there being sold. Is it a gimic you play with for a while and then throw there.
    Anyone have any negative to say about this device?

    I got it for Christmas from my siblings as they hadn't a clue what to get me and being into golf and computers it seemed like a good idea for them. For me havng a very high handicap I could hit one shot 150yards and the next 20 with the same club. Because of that I wouldn't get any benefit from it. But, if you are even relatively consistent I can see the advantage. I did get good stats about my misses, usually miss left (a lot more than I thought), so I still got good use from it.

    Mine is currently one of the ones on adverts, mainly because I could do with the money for lessons as at my level the benefit of lessons outweighs the stats as I can't act upon the stats until I'm better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭the lawman


    Joined the GG club and will play first round tomorrow.

    I'm in mid lesson/drill stuff at moment so it's gonna be shocking to see some of the distances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    One thing that I don't like is that shot distance is so generalised. We all general know our iron distances. If I fade a 6 iron into a green that distance gets included in the average distance. You could have 15yd difference between a draw and a fade. So how does that help anyone.

    It does have a lot of merit with short game and scrambling stats, but I'd be thinking they will bring out another model soon enough. Maybe you could record shot shapes after the round and have separate distances for each shape. So I'm holding off for the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭John Divney


    One thing that I don't like is that shot distance is so generalised. We all general know our iron distances. If I fade a 6 iron into a green that distance gets included in the average distance. You could have 15yd difference between a draw and a fade. So how does that help anyone.

    It does have a lot of merit with short game and scrambling stats, but I'd be thinking they will bring out another model soon enough. Maybe you could record shot shapes after the round and have separate distances for each shape. So I'm holding off for the moment.

    You aren't going to have a 15 yard difference on a draw and a fade on an iron with both equally good strikes.

    It's when you wipe a fade with the open face the distance is lost. A fade should have a closed face, thereby no distance lost due to loft.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    ...but I'd be thinking they will bring out another model soon enough...

    Doubt they need to do anything with the physical device, any improvements will be back-end software from your PC or App, they've already made changes in the short time I've been using it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    You aren't going to have a 15 yard difference on a draw and a fade on an iron with both equally good strikes.

    It's when you wipe a fade with the open face the distance is lost. A fade should have a closed face, thereby no distance lost due to loft.

    The 15yds is not really the point. The point is you can't measure a draw versus a fade.
    What do you mean by wipe a fade? Over fading, slicing maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭John Divney


    The 15yds is not really the point. The point is you can't measure a draw versus a fade.
    What do you mean by wipe a fade? Over fading, slicing maybe.

    I just mean one golfer might hit a draw as a stock shot, and his fade he doesn't have as good impact dynamics, and the club is delofted, and the face more open. Then you just have to put that information in manually I suppose and use it when club choice.

    Whereas if one player hits the exact same numbers for a draw and a fade, he will know that there isn't too much difference, if any for the distance, and his distance control will be constant.

    No machine will measure your draw or fade for you on the course, you only have distances and post game notes.

    I think this software is totally overrated when you can do the same thing with an iphone, yes more work tapping a button but you do it while checking your distance on the device, so no real time lost.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Just want to say how great their customer service is. Emailed them less than an hour ago after noticing the clip on my device had got loose as if spring had gone in it. Wasn't expecting an email until tomorrow at the earliest. However have had a conversation of 6 emails with a guy and replacement will be in post in morning. An easy realible customer services is great and often very hard found.


    Really impressed with them hense dropping a line here to let everyone know :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    You aren't going to have a 15 yard difference on a draw and a fade on an iron with both equally good strikes.

    It's when you wipe a fade with the open face the distance is lost. A fade should have a closed face, thereby no distance lost due to loft.

    Why should a fade have a closed face? I presume you mean closed to target. It should be open to path otherwise it will draw!


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭jtown


    shaunac93 wrote: »
    Just want to say how great their customer service is. Emailed them less than an hour ago after noticing the clip on my device had got loose as if spring had gone in it. Wasn't expecting an email until tomorrow at the earliest. However have had a conversation of 6 emails with a guy and replacement will be in post in morning. An easy realible customer services is great and often very hard found.


    Really impressed with them hense dropping a line here to let everyone know :)

    They are brilliant in fairness. Sent out replacement driver sensor for my tag. Can't say enough about their customer service.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    GG have now lauched a free GPS app for real time use...


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Tony_Montana


    slave1 wrote: »
    GG have now lauched a free GPS app for real time use...

    Are the use of apps banned in many golf clubs? I know my golf club have them banned :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Sorry might be a stupid question but what happens when you by a second hand game golf, do you set up a new account or does a specific account go with the game golf?

    Also in theory could the game golf be used on two separate accounts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    redzerdrog wrote:
    Sorry might be a stupid question but what happens when you by a second hand game golf, do you set up a new account or does a specific account go with the game golf?

    I bought mine second hand and all I did was sign up online, download the desktop app, plugged in and played. No problem at all. As if it was never used by anyone else
    redzerdrog wrote:
    Also in theory could the game golf be used on two separate accounts?

    I think it could but it would be a bit of a pain swapping out the tags!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    Can this work with an iPad? Don't currently have a laptop or pc!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    etxp wrote:
    Can this work with an iPad? Don't currently have a laptop or pc!
    Email I got off game golf when I asked if it was compatible with a chrome book.
    wrote:
    In order to upload your rounds you will need to have the GAME GOLF Transfer Application software, which is only compatible with Windows Vista, 7, 8 and Mac OS X 10.6+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    http://eu.nmb.ly/sydhl

    Game Golf up on Just Golf website today, reduced to €149


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭JIdontknow


    Was just going to post the above. Is it worth it for that price, seems a good deal? Anyone give feedback after using it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭newport2


    JIdontknow wrote: »
    Was just going to post the above. Is it worth it for that price, seems a good deal? Anyone give feedback after using it?

    I'm finding it very useful. Obviously distances are great to have the facts on.

    I saw a few inconsistent gaps in my irons, had them checked by my pro and sure enough the lofts were off by a few degrees in a few of them from hitting. Got the adjusted back and the distance between my irons is consistant now. Also great info if you're making a swing change or changing a club.

    When it was €199 in the shops I asked for best price and got it for €180, so €149 is good but it's not exactly a steal. I'd only get it if you were going to anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    JIdontknow wrote:
    Was just going to post the above. Is it worth it for that price, seems a good deal? Anyone give feedback after using it?

    I have mine a couple of months now. Love the confidence it gives you when taking a club out of bag I.e the water is 150yrds away my average distance for 7i is 130 so I can hit a full swing with that and be confident that it's short of water for my lay up.

    I also really enjoy reviewing my rounds and seeing if there is an improvement in fairways hit and greens in regulation and putts after practise.

    I use mine for practise rounds and competitions and one positive of using it for practise is that is like you have a scorecard in you pocket the whole time cause you don't wanna ruin your game golf numbers by not concentrating :)

    I found it hard to remember to use it at start esp for short game and putts but I usually just keep track of round on second card ie score and no of putts and the device usually senses when you hit shot so just fill in data when I get home if I forgot to tag.

    Overall I would say it's defo worth the €150 :) esp if your a numbers and figures kinda person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    I'd echo the above, but with the caveat that for a mid handicapper is takes a LOT of shots to get true distances. In reality if you're taking into account upwind, downwind, uphill, downhill and bad strikes it's going to take 50 shots before you'll arrive at a value you can trust as your median shot with a given club.
    For something like an 8 iron this might take 20 rounds or more. My club data is only beginning to settle down now after 20 rounds. For everything else though, it's excellent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭LarMan


    One area I like is the compare feature that allows you to compare your stats against benchmarks of a similar handicap. For instance I have a current average score of 90. If I want to see how I stack up against the benchmark for someone shooting in the 85-90 range, I can compare my stats and see where I need to improve. So for me if I want to lower my handicap I need to improve my FIR and GIR and my driving distance needs to improve.

    Of course these are obvious but if the benchmark is true then I know that if I increase my average driving by 9 yards and increase my FIR from 33% to 45% and get my GIR from 24% to 31% and all my other stats stay the same then I should be able to lower my score and consequently my HCAP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭JIdontknow


    Will it show the club swing paths too in it's data, or more so just the distances etc? Thanks for your feedback everyone, it's tempting as I enjoy seeing the numbers etc, knowing yardages etc- I'm trying to do that more now than just look and try gauge from looking what to hit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    JIdontknow wrote:
    Will it show the club swing paths too in it's data, or more so just the distances etc? Thanks for your feedback everyone, it's tempting as I enjoy seeing the numbers etc, knowing yardages etc- I'm trying to do that more now than just look and try gauge from looking what to hit.


    Just distances unfortunately!! But still very worth while information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    3bays swing analyser works as a top of grip insert as well. Would be interesting if game golf got same stats as they provide down the road.

    Then you would get everything for a shot....how far it went, swing path, club head speed, visual image of swing etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    I am putting mine up for sale. I'm just not playing enough golf! pm if interested. probably let it go for €90


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ridonkulous


    I am putting mine up for sale. I'm just not playing enough golf! pm if interested. probably let it go for €90

    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    I am putting mine up for sale. I'm just not playing enough golf! pm if interested. probably let it go for €90

    Is this still available?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Senecio


    jtown wrote: »
    They are brilliant in fairness. Sent out replacement driver sensor for my tag. Can't say enough about their customer service.

    This is good to hear, I used mine for the first time today. 6-iron and PW tags both came loose and are now lost. Emptied my bag and turned it upside down and nowhere to be seen. At the end of the round a few others had also started to come loose. I don't understand it as they were all difficult to get in. I've emailed them, hoping they also send replacements.

    Anyone have any tips for keeping the tags secure?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭OffalyMedic


    Senecio wrote: »
    Anyone have any tips for keeping the tags secure?

    cant help you sorry mine are tight and actaually quiet difficult to remove even if you want to


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The end of my grips are convex so the tags did not sit level so I got a vice grips and wedged them on as I got the feeling they would come loose when just hand tightened, they have not budged but are starting to wear a good bit now I have a quick look at them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭Senecio


    Can't commend them enough on customer service. Replacement tags are already in the post. I was thinking I'll put a circle of double sided tape on the end of the grip, then screw the tag into that. That should help to keep them secure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭willabur


    arrived in the post today - I was using swing by swing phone app for gps and shot tracking but I found it cumbersome for tracking shots as there is too much interaction required. This seems like a better solution.

    Playing this evening so can't wait to get out there and give it a go


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