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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    jtown wrote: »
    So it gets even better!!

    Sent me out the belt clip and got it yesterday, I changed it and tired to turn it on after I put the new one on it, couple of bits (spring and some other small bit) fell out of it when I unscrewed it and when I put back the old one back on it wasn't turning on at all. DISASTER!

    So got onto their support team and guess what!

    They are dispatching a new device to me..

    The best customer service I have ever come across. ;););)

    The price has dropped on the USA site to 149$ that's a big jump from 300$ I'd be thinking sales are falling away. It's fairly crap imo as the averages unrealistic due to wind etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Sorry to bump this thread but I've seen Game Golf down to around €150 in a few places and I'm quite tempted to be honest. How are people finding it now after an extended period with it?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    Sorry to bump this thread but I've seen Game Golf down to around €150 in a few places and I'm quite tempted to be honest. How are people finding it now after an extended period with it?

    I gave up using mine, found it too distracting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    I gave up using mine, found it too distracting.

    I love stats though so I don't think it'd be too distracting for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,984 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    From the off, game golf made no sense to me - tapping would just do my head in .

    There are other technology options out there now.

    That is why it is 150.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    From the off, game golf made no sense to me - tapping would just do my head in .

    There are other technology options out there now.

    That is why it is 150.

    What other technology is available? Interested to see if I've missed something which might be more beneficial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,984 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    What other technology is available? Interested to see if I've missed something which might be more beneficial.

    It is expensive at present

    But only a matter of time before it is cheaper / or some other technology that does not need touching.

    https://www.arccosgolf.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    It is expensive at present

    But only a matter of time before it is cheaper / or some other technology that does not need touching.

    https://www.arccosgolf.com/

    Similar to the Game Golf without the tapping? Will read up on it a bit more though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,984 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    Similar to the Game Golf without the tapping? Will read up on it a bit more though.

    I still don't think it is a perfect option as you need phone on you.

    Only a matter of time it will be linked to watch etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    I still don't think it is a perfect option as you need phone on you.

    Only a matter of time it will be linked to watch etc.

    I was at the game golf stand at the PGA Merchandise show and they have a new device which doesn't need tapping


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I was at the game golf stand at the PGA Merchandise show and they have a new device which doesn't need tapping

    Interesting. Did they have an RRP set?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    I love stats though so I don't think it'd be too distracting for me.

    I’m the exact same but when your standing over a shot and the only thing going through your head is “did I tag this shot” is not ideal. I might give it another go this summer in a few practice rounds.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    I still don't think it is a perfect option as you need phone on you.

    Only a matter of time it will be linked to watch etc.

    It’s only the live version you need your phone (and it kills the battery in no time)
    Can be used without your phone, like the old version, if you want.

    Can be got cheep second hand now as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    I’m the exact same but when your standing over a shot and the only thing going through your head is “did I tag this shot” is not ideal. I might give it another go this summer in a few practice rounds.

    I think it's just something I'd have to get used to. Build it into my preshot routine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Bottle


    I have it in my pregame routine, got one of those washing machine tab bags and stuck it in that and have it on my bag. Works well except for putts...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,984 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I was at the game golf stand at the PGA Merchandise show and they have a new device which doesn't need tapping

    Yes - tapping anything in this day and age is like a fax machine.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    Sorry to bump this thread but I've seen Game Golf down to around €150 in a few places and I'm quite tempted to be honest. How are people finding it now after an extended period with it?

    Been using it for over 2 years now, tapping is not a problem and I do it subconsciously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    slave1 wrote: »
    Been using it for over 2 years now, tapping is not a problem and I do it subconsciously

    Have to agree with Slave1. I basically am doing it unconsciously at this stage. Even when I'm not using it I find myself moving my club to my waist as I'm going to address the ball, so its, in essence, habit by now.

    I haven't been using it over the winter in my place. Bad conditions, placing, winter course in play, etc... as well as only playing 9 or 12 hole comps in my own place while the winter league is on.

    I think its a great tool, especially if you are a bit geeky about numbers. You could go into serious detail if you wanted too (comparing distance you hit clubs out of the rough, versus from the fairway, etc...)

    Will take a while to build up a meaningful database of numbers obviously...but that just means playing golf, so its not too much of a hardship :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,068 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Have to agree with Slave1. I basically am doing it unconsciously at this stage. Even when I'm not using it I find myself moving my club to my waist as I'm going to address the ball, so its, in essence, habit by now.

    I haven't been using it over the winter in my place. Bad conditions, placing, winter course in play, etc... as well as only playing 9 or 12 hole comps in my own place while the winter league is on.

    I think its a great tool, especially if you are a bit geeky about numbers. You could go into serious detail if you wanted too (comparing distance you hit clubs out of the rough, versus from the fairway, etc...)

    Will take a while to build up a meaningful database of numbers obviously...but that just means playing golf, so its not too much of a hardship :D

    lol, snap, not using mine either over winter due to playing only 14 holes mostly, so forget to bring it out when i do actually play 18. even if i did, hard to guage numbers properly with the conditions so best left for spring/summer golf.

    i do find myself going to tap it a lot lately!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    It's at £91 including postage now buying from Amazon through their global store.

    Think I'll pull the trigger at that price.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014UY7LV2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_jpyFAbGHXVGHF


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Mat the trasher


    Had been considering a tracker, actually have a PIQ but find the tagging cumbersome, after losing the PIQ robot I looked at alternatives and found this, seemed to me to be the best device spec of the trackers I found and has built in GPS. Haven’t bought one but if I was replacing my GPS watch I would buy.

    https://shotscope.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    Had been considering a tracker, actually have a PIQ but find the tagging cumbersome, after losing the PIQ robot I looked at alternatives and found this, seemed to me to be the best device spec of the trackers I found and has built in GPS. Haven’t bought one but if I was replacing my GPS watch I would buy.

    https://shotscope.com/

    Actually looked this up looks brilliant providing it does everything it says and there's no bugs can't really find and descent reviews but think its just new out so might take a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I see Matt mentioned the Shot Scope above and I'm currently looking for a new GPS device after my Golf Buddy bit the dust.

    I had also been playing with the idea of the Game Golf to add stat tracking to help me improve my game, so now I'm considering Shot Scope V2 which seems to offer both stat tracking and GPS in one package.

    Has anyone here used Shot Scope? Or can anyone offer any thoughts on the above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I see Matt mentioned the Shot Scope above and I'm currently looking for a new GPS device after my Golf Buddy bit the dust.

    I had also been playing with the idea of the Game Golf to add stat tracking to help me improve my game, so now I'm considering Shot Scope V2 which seems to offer both stat tracking and GPS in one package.

    Has anyone here used Shot Scope? Or can anyone offer any thoughts on the above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    I see Matt mentioned the Shot Scope above and I'm currently looking for a new GPS device after my Golf Buddy bit the dust.

    I had also been playing with the idea of the Game Golf to add stat tracking to help me improve my game, so now I'm considering Shot Scope V2 which seems to offer both stat tracking and GPS in one package.

    Has anyone here used Shot Scope? Or can anyone offer any thoughts on the above?

    I haven't tried shot scope.
    There's a new game golf coming out soon see site. You won't have to tag which was the biggest problem with the old one. Bear in mind you will only get average distances, it won't consider the wind or slope it shot type so club distances are not going to be accurate.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    I've started using mine again, used it for my last 2 rounds. Its just hi-lighted that i'm terrible at golf!! Lots to work on!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I haven't tried shot scope.
    There's a new game golf coming out soon see site. You won't have to tag which was the biggest problem with the old one. Bear in mind you will only get average distances, it won't consider the wind or slope it shot type so club distances are not going to be accurate.

    Thanks for that. The new model looks much nicer it has to be said.

    I was leaning towards the Shot Scope as my Golf Buddy is on its last legs at the moment and the SS gives you both the GPS watch and round stats. By buying the SS I wouldn't need to buy a new GPS device in a few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    For anyone who was considering the Shot Scope V2 they have 10% off now at the minute. Total price is £202.50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Blud


    Has anyone tried the Shot Scope?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Blud wrote: »
    Has anyone tried the Shot Scope?

    Not yet but I was thinking of getting it for a while now and the extra 10% off is making it more attractive.

    It's either the Shot Scope or a Garmin S20 (€150ish) so for an extra €70 I'll get more information about my round.

    Edit: And just ordered. Will update here on initial impressions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    For anyone who was considering the Shot Scope V2 they have 10% off now at the minute. Total price is £202.50.
    Just ordered it last week but got the 10% off a very nice person on chat, should have held onto code for today! Ordered it last Monday so will hopefully have it during the week, it is only coming from Scotland after all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    tbayers wrote: »
    Just ordered it last week but got the 10% off a very nice person on chat, should have held onto code for today! Ordered it last Monday so will hopefully have it during the week, it is only coming from Scotland after all!

    It looks a great device, especially for me where I needed a new GPS so it was very little extra outlaw for the stat tracking.

    I'm just back playing and I'm finding it very hard to judge my distances with my irons so after a few rounds with SS it should give me solid averages.

    Saying that I'm hitting the ball far better now than when I finished playing so I'm not complaining :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    Yup, I had a TomTom Golfer 2 watch. After 6 months with no issues at all and delighted with all the stats (which were a bit limited), it suddenly stopped updating to my phone. Tried everything from wiping my phone,to the watch, you name but nothing would work. I found their customer service extremely limited too. So after playing nearly 10 months with just a fancy GPS that is only useful for yardage, I am really looking forward to the Shot Scope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭benny79


    Interested on hearing your thoughts on it lads as been looking at it for a while now..


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    So just had my first round with the Shotscope V2. Very impressed. The only thing you really need to be aware of in the round while using the watch is to say how many putts you have had while standing next to the hole. This then feeds back into the software the location of the flag on the day. I only forgot to do this on one hole, but it was easily remedied post round using the software.
    Had a bit of a brain fart on the second hole and I lost my ball. Creamed my provisional and make a bogey. Had to remedy this post round as the watch thought that was my only shot. There is an update for this that i didn't get around to downloading that makes it easier when hitting a provisional. I also lost a ball and therefore scratched it on another hole. I selected "picked up" on the watch and this went down as a zero. As it was stroke play I had to remedy this again post round to make sure my average won't be affected going forward. In this instance, my round score was lowered due to my scratch.
    The editing took 5 mins on my computer when I went home. But knowing whats what for the next round, a lot less editing should be required.

    On the course I was unsure whether a shot was being picked up or not but it turned out it did a great job in hindsight. Never missed a swing that hit a ball. The statistics it provides post round is fantastic. It will be a great help once a few rounds start accumulating. Overall 9/10. Lost a mark because there is no way of tracking the score, a small negative.

    I imagine the positives it has over the Game Golf is the fact you don't have to tap the club off anything for it to register a shot. I haven't seen the application Game Golf uses either but whatever it uses it would be hard to better the Shotscope software.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    tbayers wrote: »
    So just had my first round with the Shotscope V2. Very impressed. The only thing you really need to be aware of in the round while using the watch is to say how many putts you have had while standing next to the hole. This then feeds back into the software the location of the flag on the day. I only forgot to do this on one hole, but it was easily remedied post round using the software.
    Had a bit of a brain fart on the second hole and I lost my ball. Creamed my provisional and make a bogey. Had to remedy this post round as the watch thought that was my only shot. There is an update for this that i didn't get around to downloading that makes it easier when hitting a provisional. I also lost a ball and therefore scratched it on another hole. I selected "picked up" on the watch and this went down as a zero. As it was stroke play I had to remedy this again post round to make sure my average won't be affected going forward. In this instance, my round score was lowered due to my scratch.
    The editing took 5 mins on my computer when I went home. But knowing whats what for the next round, a lot less editing should be required.

    On the course I was unsure whether a shot was being picked up or not but it turned out it did a great job in hindsight. Never missed a swing that hit a ball. The statistics it provides post round is fantastic. It will be a great help once a few rounds start accumulating. Overall 9/10. Lost a mark because there is no way of tracking the score, a small negative.

    I imagine the positives it has over the Game Golf is the fact you don't have to tap the club off anything for it to register a shot. I haven't seen the application Game Golf uses either but whatever it uses it would be hard to better the Shotscope software.

    Great initial impression. I ordered mine last Saturday but no sign of it arriving yet :(

    How long were you waiting for delivery?


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Great initial impression. I ordered mine last Saturday but no sign of it arriving yet :(

    How long were you waiting for delivery?

    ordered on a Saturday too, came around ten days later on a Tuesday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    tbayers wrote: »
    ordered on a Saturday too, came around ten days later on a Tuesday

    Hopefully I'll see it Tuesday or Wednesday then. First Medal is next weekend so would like to have them for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wardides


    Thinking of investing in this now the price has dropped. Have a range finder so have a rough idea of what I hit distance wise, but would be nice to be able to pinpoint struggling areas. Off 14 at the moment, so a little hesitant as to whether I should put the 150 into lessons instead..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    Game Golf Live is £99 on Amazon so it's a lot cheaper than Shot Scope.
    For those who have bought a Game Golf, is it worth it? Does it also give you live GPS info on distances to the green and to hazards? If so are these accurate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    My Shot Scope V2 arrived today, 9 days from ordering.

    Initial impression:

    Packaging is very good, good quality box and shipped very securly.

    Watch is quite big but very light. Strap is very rubbery which may get a little uncomfortable in warm weather. The menus are very easy to scroll through and I'd no problems updating to the latest software, installing courses and setting up my Bag.

    Tags seem well made. There is a nice weight to each one and the screw is quite thick so I'd imagine you'd have to be quite ham fisted to break one.

    Off to a good start so far and I'll be testing on course on Sunday for the first medal. Will report back after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    stockdam wrote: »
    Game Golf Live is £99 on Amazon so it's a lot cheaper than Shot Scope.
    For those who have bought a Game Golf, is it worth it? Does it also give you live GPS info on distances to the green and to hazards? If so are these accurate?

    No, it will end up in your drawer. Is it accurate? No, because your club data that is tagged is not usable. I hit my 7 iron 150m on a calm day game golf says I hit my 7 iron 126m on average. The reason is your hitting shots into the wind with the wind, uphill and down hill.
    So let's say I go to the par 3 on my course 150m (laser measured) to the pin no wind. If I look at the stats I need to hit a 4 iron. It just makes no sense.
    Useful stats are proximity to pin fairways hit or missed but anyone can do that by marking a card with for gir and putts in the colms provided on the score card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    No, it will end up in your drawer. Is it accurate? No, because your club data that is tagged is not usable. I hit my 7 iron 150m on a calm day game golf says I hit my 7 iron 126m on average. The reason is your hitting shots into the wind with the wind, uphill and down hill.
    So let's say I go to the par 3 on my course 150m (laser measured) to the pin no wind. If I look at the stats I need to hit a 4 iron. It just makes no sense.
    Useful stats are proximity to pin fairways hit or missed but anyone can do that by marking a card with for gir and putts in the colms provided on the score card.

    Thanks for that. My question about yardage is "does it give you a realtime accurate reading" ........so if it says that you are 150 yards from the centre of the green then you are. I understand that the average club distances it gives may be misleading at first, but surely over time it is correct (same number of into wind and down wind etc) although duffs do need to be ignored.
    I guess that if you chip with your 8 iron then that might cause your 8 iron distances to be badly skewed.
    In the past I calibrated my irons by walking out distances and hitting hundreds of balls on a flat practice ground.

    Last question. Golf Game gives you GPS distance and for £99 is there anything better? It records what you did with each club and, yes, you will need to edit the data after the round to eliminate the outliers including into wind and down wind etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    stockdam wrote: »
    Thanks for that. My question about yardage is "does it give you a realtime accurate reading" ........so if it says that you are 150 yards from the centre of the green then you are. I agree that what your average club from that distance may be misleading at first, but surely over time it is correct (same number of into wind and down wind etc) although duffs do need to be ignored.
    I guess that if you chip with your 8 iron then that might cause your 8 iron distances to be badly skewed.
    In the past I calibrated my irons by walking out distances and hitting hundreds of balls on a flat practice ground.

    Last question. Golf Game gives you GPS distance and for £99 is there anything better? It records what you did with each club and, yes, you will need to edit the data after the round to eliminate the outliers including into wind and down wind etc.

    Yes it is accurate as a GPS for yardages but you need to use your phone to get the yardages. A 150yd uphill shot will still play longer naturally enough.
    You can download hole 19 for free it does the same thing if you are just after yardages.
    However using your smart phone on the course is a pain, with it going into standby, unlocking it and losing signal etc.
    Second question: You can't remove chip shots, knockdown shots and duffs without destroying the round you collected your data on. As it will be an incomplete round.
    One feature I do like about gg is the comparison to different handicapers. For example you compare yourself to a scratch it shows how many shots gained or lost on different areas of the game. Driving I might gain a shot and scrambling I might lose 4 shots a round etc.
    It shows where you can make the biggest improvement.
    I knew it was short game but its nice to see what I can gain in a round.
    In saying that though mine is sitting in a drawer I haven't used it in ages. The last time I tried using it I got off to an awful start and forgot to tag and a few holes later I just threw the gg in the bag.
    Not having to tag would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    No, it will end up in your drawer. Is it accurate? No, because your club data that is tagged is not usable. I hit my 7 iron 150m on a calm day game golf says I hit my 7 iron 126m on average. The reason is your hitting shots into the wind with the wind, uphill and down hill.
    So let's say I go to the par 3 on my course 150m (laser measured) to the pin no wind. If I look at the stats I need to hit a 4 iron. It just makes no sense.
    Useful stats are proximity to pin fairways hit or missed but anyone can do that by marking a card with for gir and putts in the colms provided on the score card.

    If you have a very small database, then yes, you're going to get skewed data. For example, if I use all data (94 rounds) my 6I gives a typical hit of 168yrds, whereas, if I just limit it to my last 5 rounds, I get a number of 155yrds. Like an piece of data tracking & analysis software, the more info you give it, the more accurate data you get out from it.
    stockdam wrote: »
    Thanks for that. My question about yardage is "does it give you a realtime accurate reading" ........so if it says that you are 150 yards from the centre of the green then you are. I understand that the average club distances it gives may be misleading at first, but surely over time it is correct (same number of into wind and down wind etc) although duffs do need to be ignored.
    I guess that if you chip with your 8 iron then that might cause your 8 iron distances to be badly skewed.
    In the past I calibrated my irons by walking out distances and hitting hundreds of balls on a flat practice ground.

    Last question. Golf Game gives you GPS distance and for £99 is there anything better? It records what you did with each club and, yes, you will need to edit the data after the round to eliminate the outliers including into wind and down wind etc.

    So, in essence, it does ignore duffs & pitches/chips automatically when determining your distances. For example, with my Pitching Wedge, I can see a big fat curve at the bottom of total shots hit, for shots around the green, but its ignoring those shots in calculating my distances with the club. It has bounds set around what it determines to be a (relatively) full swing with the club. So I might have hundreds of shots that are within 10-15yards with that club, but the bounds that it sets for determining distances are a low of 98yrds, high of 148yrds & typical of 125yrds
    Yes it is accurate as a GPS for yardages but you need to use your phone to get the yardages. A 150yd uphill shot will still play longer naturally enough.
    You can download hole 19 for free it does the same thing if you are just after yardages.
    However using your smart phone on the course is a pain, with it going into standby, unlocking it and losing signal etc.
    Second question: You can't remove chip shots, knockdown shots and duffs without destroying the round you collected your data on. As it will be an incomplete round.
    One feature I do like about gg is the comparison to different handicapers. For example you compare yourself to a scratch it shows how many shots gained or lost on different areas of the game. Driving I might gain a shot and scrambling I might lose 4 shots a round etc.
    It shows where you can make the biggest improvement.
    I knew it was short game but its nice to see what I can gain in a round.
    In saying that though mine is sitting in a drawer I haven't used it in ages. The last time I tried using it I got off to an awful start and forgot to tag and a few holes later I just threw the gg in the bag.
    Not having to tag would be great.

    The GPS, is really just an app on your phone, there is nothing on the device. So it'll work fine. You technically wouldn't even need GameGolf itself to install the app I would imagine & use the GPS. The only catch really is that it'll be a drain on your phone battery, and generally battery-life on smart phones is not great, at the best of times.

    Agreed re the Strokes Gained benchmarking tool, its a very easy visual tool to see what areas of your game are hurting you most. You can benchmark against different handicap levels. So, if you're a 15 handicap, with a target of 10, you could benchmark against a 10 handicap & it'll show where you're gaining/losing shots typically (as above, you probably already know that). It also gives some decent pointers on more specifics & the expected gain from improving in that area. For example, if I benchmark against a 5 handicap, the tips I get are:

    Putting:
    Practice your medium putts between 10-33 feet to lower your score by up to 0.7 strokes per round

    Short Game:
    Increase your accuracy less than 25 yards from the rough to lower your score by up to 0.62 strokes per round

    Off The Tee:
    Improve your tee shots on holes between 350-400 yards to lower your score by up to 0.58 strokes per round

    Approach:
    Work on your shots between 125-150 yards from the rough to lower your score by up to 0.35 strokes per round

    If you're a bit nerdy around numbers & tech, then you'll likely get some benefit from it. If not, it might not be worth it.

    From looking at the Shotscope it does look like an advancement in the tech. I don't mind tagging, but I can see why people would be irritated by it


  • Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wardides


    No, it will end up in your drawer. Is it accurate? No, because your club data that is tagged is not usable. I hit my 7 iron 150m on a calm day game golf says I hit my 7 iron 126m on average. The reason is your hitting shots into the wind with the wind, uphill and down hill.
    So let's say I go to the par 3 on my course 150m (laser measured) to the pin no wind. If I look at the stats I need to hit a 4 iron. It just makes no sense.
    Useful stats are proximity to pin fairways hit or missed but anyone can do that by marking a card with for gir and putts in the colms provided on the score card.

    That's bonkers. You could say the same about any range finder or measuring device. Surely you use game golf (or any similar gadget) to get an average distance you hit your 7 iron for example. You then need to adjust depending on weather conditions on certain days or course conditions. What you want is a caddy!!

    I always thought Game golf was to get a true understanding of your golf game. For example, I'd like to know when I try and really turn the shoulders on a drive and get extra distance do I always leak to a certain side. Or is there specific clubs in the bag which I consistently don't strike well etc so I can work on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    wardides wrote: »
    That's bonkers. You could say the same about any range finder or measuring device. Surely you use game golf (or any similar gadget) to get an average distance you hit your 7 iron for example. You then need to adjust depending on weather conditions on certain days or course conditions. What you want is a caddy!!

    I always thought Game golf was to get a true understanding of your golf game. For example, I'd like to know when I try and really turn the shoulders on a drive and get extra distance do I always leak to a certain side. Or is there specific clubs in the bag which I consistently don't strike well etc so I can work on this.

    It depends on how much you are going to rely on the gg typical distances. Are the typical when hitting into the wind or down wind up hill down hill. You may find on a certain hole you use a particular club more due to the length of the hole. Does that typically play up down hill or a prevailing wind.
    That can skew your data. Maybe on certain courses with no wind or temperature change in holland lets say you might filter out everything except strike.
    Bottom line what's sell gg is consumers big fat ego, I hit a 342yd drive and I have it recorded. Down wind with massive roll is not really revelant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭boban z


    I have GG and find it useful. To get the full benefit of it you need to record a significant number of rounds.
    Look at the average distance per club and this should give you a good indication of what you should be hitting with each club under normal conditions i.e no wind and flat shot etc.
    Remember we are not professionals. We don't hit the same club the same distance every time. It's all about getting an indication of your own capabilities per club.

    I also find useful the 'off the tee' stats. I knew I tended to leak the ball slightly right but having that stat in presentation form in front of me made me do something about it......and I did
    Last 10 rounds v's last 30 rounds I see significant improvement on 'off the tee' stats. In my view GG highlighted the issue and I took measures to resolve it.

    Is GG the Roll Royce of golf technology.........no.
    But it is a great little device for relatively little money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    https://practical-golf.com/shot-scope-v2-review/

    This review of shotscope has me considering buying one, any update from those that have got it recently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,354 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    redzerdrog wrote: »
    https://practical-golf.com/shot-scope-v2-review/

    This review of shotscope has me considering buying one, any update from those that have got it recently

    So far I am very happy.

    Although the watch is quite big it is very light. My previous GPS clipped to my driver head cover and I don't tend to wear normal watches but the ShotScope didn't bother me at all when I'm wearing it and playing. The straps are a rubbery material and can cause your wrist to sweat a little but not a problem for me again. The only concern I'd have is the cover over the charging port is a little flimsy.

    The tags are good quality and seem quite sturdy. I had tour velvet grips on my irons and because of the rounded top on the grip the tag sat up a little. On my driver I've multi-compound grips and the tag sits flush with the top of the grip. I feel you'd be less likely to damage a tag putting your clubs in and out of your bag with the the multi-compound grip.

    The user interface is very straight forward on the watch and the distances are bang on (I've tested against Garmin, Tom Tom and a Range Finder). The option to show distances to hazards is very handy as well. There are three modes to select depending on what you need, GPS only,. Track only and GPS and Track.

    The website and app give a very nice break down of your stats but as I haven't used mine enough yet I haven't built up enough information to get my averages. Editing your round is also very easy, although a little less finiky on the website.

    I'm based in Wexford but if your around the area your more than welcome to have a look at it.


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